Tremulous Forum
General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Confess on July 08, 2006, 05:48:57 am
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Is it just me or is AKKA down? And if so, why?
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No, it's certainly not only you. I was there when it went down, about 9-10 hours ago.I don't remember exactly.
Just about when I was to evolve to a tyr...
I want my credits back!
Anyway, most players went to SST from what I've seen ,
but none seemed to know the reason for the downtime.
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maybe, just maybe they are turning FF on :]]]]]]]
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maybe, just maybe they are turning FF on :]]]]]]]
Games are more fun, when FF is off. I hope Akka comes back. Yesterday I was playing other servers, and some really have a problem with deconners, they get kicked out and then just connect back, start their bs again. I think Akka has automatic banning after kick vote, so villains cant just re-connect.
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Games are more fun, when FF is off.
I disagree. If FF isn't on, games tend to last forever and be boring. Humans can just shoot at those two passages to their base all the time with pulse rifles and lucys. I actualy heard that someone sat next to armory and had auto fire and automated buy ammo script or something on :evil: :evil: . If FF is on, that can't be done because eventualy you will TK a lot. When FF is on, people need to be careful and watch where they are fireing. It makes it a lot more skill based.
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+ FF off = TONS of blocked large aliens dying.
FF off is strictly pro humans/lameass kids
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Games are more fun, when FF is off.
I disagree. If FF isn't on, games tend to last forever and be boring. Humans can just shoot at those two passages to their base all the time with pulse rifles and lucys. I actualy heard that someone sat next to armory and had auto fire and automated buy ammo script or something on :evil: :evil: . If FF is on, that can't be done because eventualy you will TK a lot. When FF is on, people need to be careful and watch where they are fireing. It makes it a lot more skill based.
Problem being most servers with ff on also have increased BPs. Which in turn causes stalemates as people cannot effectively attack til SD and even then SD is like 5-10 minutes before timelimit.
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I find that FF in any current fps games are highly un-true to real life.
This irony is truelly due to the lack of sensory perception provided by the computer; we don't have preferal vision, we don't necessarily have hardware to provide 3d sound, we DON'T necessarily have decent communication method (ie talking, signalling to teammates)
many times i was firing only for someone to start charging at the healthy, angry, rampaging tyrent and walk right into my line of plasma (bahhhhh)
while more skilled player might say i'm just being a noob (which i really am lol), FF really takes away from what true reality would be like, which is ironic to the purpose of FF. So since most of our sensory perception gets eliminated down to primary vision and limited sound and almost no communication due largely to the limitation of the hardware/software, i think it's only fair to somehow compromise.
it's true that a lot of players, like myself, do abuse the lack of FF from time to time. but i think FF really only favores alien too much as well. other shooter games, such as counter strike, both team gets taxed by FF, but in this game, only human truely gets taxed while aliens doesn't. This seems to offset the balance of the game.
err... so... after lengthy blabbering, I for one is against FF in this game unless somehow it effects both team in fair manner (i don't even know how this can be done since it's hard to ff a melee attack accidentally), as well as there are some way to implement better sensory perception for the player to be more aware of the surrounding. (at least something can be improved for communication, i'm sure)
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In FF games i just get tired of the constant kick votes..
The tyrants who think killing any other aliens in a small hallway is a good way to get from point A to point B...
Trying to pick a dretch off thats attacking the guy in front of you and killing him instead..
The genious who wants to shoot people who can't get off the med station because everyone is standing around it because there is another genious shooting everyone who is near the door.
High BP games almost always suck...
.. i just like no FF because the games typically seem to go a lot smoother in the end.... though the luci spamming drives me nuts.
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FF makes things difficult for aliens.
You can't box in a human without killing each other.
Goon pounces hurt everyone else. A lot.
Tyrant trample squishes or damages everyone.
Basilisk is made even more useless because you can't even hold a human down to have your teammates finish him because you will die in the process.
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3 last responses = N00Bs :/
Have you EVER played on good server with GOOD players and admin and FF on? No vote kicks, no admin kicks, ppl just use BRAINZzzzz and not spam
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Wow Rasz your manners are horrible, so far you have managed to call everyone who play on AKKA for lameass kids and noobs, maybe you should calm down and try to respect the fact that some dont like FF, exploding like that for no reason whatsoever, isnt the way to convince others that FF servers equals "good players, brainzzzzz, and no spam", quite the opposite actually.
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Do not worry, Rasz is noone of any consequence anyways.
Sorry for getting to this thread so late. We ( the [AKKA] admins ) are trying to get in touch with R1CH, the server operator. Until he can get back to us, the server will be down. However, I don't imagine it will be too much longer. On that same note, I don't have any sort of ETA, either. :(
Edit: AKKA is now running.
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At least sst is doing well...
All of a sudden SST became one of the big dogs in the server list. It alway had potential, but now it is THE big server.
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woohooo, good old akka is back :) but I must say I got used to ff on in almost every server:)
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3 last responses = N00Bs :/
Have you EVER played on good server with GOOD players and admin and FF on? No vote kicks, no admin kicks, ppl just use BRAINZzzzz and not spam
NO.. because FF makes everyone act like an ass it would seem..
Maybe not on smaller servers.. but say on a certain server when you have 50 people on there.. its a massive pain.
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3 last responses = N00Bs :/
Have you EVER played on good server with GOOD players and admin and FF on? No vote kicks, no admin kicks, ppl just use BRAINZzzzz and not spam
NO.. because FF makes everyone act like an ass it would seem..
Maybe not on smaller servers.. but say on a certain server when you have 50 people on there.. its a massive pain.
50 players on the same cramped map is a massive pain FF or not.
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I miss AKKA :(
Edit: It's back online!! *yay*
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Wow Rasz your manners are horrible, so far you have managed to call everyone who play on AKKA for lameass kids and noobs, maybe you should calm down and try to respect the fact that some dont like FF, exploding like that for no reason whatsoever, isnt the way to convince others that FF servers equals "good players, brainzzzzz, and no spam", quite the opposite actually.
yes, I'm an asshat. I call ppl names because they are stubborn and dont listen. Tremulous has a very delicate balance. Turning FF off or making a server with more than 8-10 players per team breaks this balance and is a source of flustration. Some people dont realize that.
Take for example a corridor (niveus human base right one), now HOW many aliens can fit in that small corridor at once? and how many humans can lucy spam such a coridor? Now how many aliens can retreat and attack simultaniously in this corridor? take into consideration those options:
14ppl server
24ppl server
FF off
FF on
Tell me which combination is most pro human and which most balanced?
Sleep it over and let me know. And YES, use BRAINZZZzzz.
ps: aliens win on AKKA and other FF off server only because of noob camping humans sitting on turrets all map till SD comes.
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... I can't make anyone use their brains.. You have to look at what often comes out best in a worst case scenario...
You can have the choice of humans shooting the aliens in the hall, or you can have the aliens killing eachother in the hall... either way you still have blocking.. FF will not solve your blocking problems.. the only thing that changes is the order in which the aliens die.
FF on = constant kick voting, possibly screwing with people who didn't do anything.
HIGH BP SUCKS... it always ends up in someone changing teams and deconning because there is basically nothing else that can be done.
Humans can expand their massive rows of turrets, but fat lot of good 50 acid tubes are going to do the aliens when someone has a grenade.
But the point is.. there are servers without FF on and ones with FF on.. there are servers with BP on and without high BP on... calling people noobs because their opinion is different than yours is one of the most noobish things you can do.
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calling people noobs because their opinion is different than yours is one of the most noobish things you can do.
agreed
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Wow Rasz your manners are horrible, so far you have managed to call everyone who play on AKKA for lameass kids and noobs, maybe you should calm down and try to respect the fact that some dont like FF, exploding like that for no reason whatsoever, isnt the way to convince others that FF servers equals "good players, brainzzzzz, and no spam", quite the opposite actually.
yes, I'm an asshat. I call ppl names because they are stubborn and dont listen. Tremulous has a very delicate balance. Turning FF off or making a server with more than 8-10 players per team breaks this balance and is a source of flustration. Some people dont realize that.
Take for example a corridor (niveus human base right one), now HOW many aliens can fit in that small corridor at once? and how many humans can lucy spam such a coridor? Now how many aliens can retreat and attack simultaniously in this corridor? take into consideration those options:
14ppl server
24ppl server
FF off
FF on
Tell me which combination is most pro human and which most balanced?
Sleep it over and let me know. And YES, use BRAINZZZzzz.
ps: aliens win on AKKA and other FF off server only because of noob camping humans sitting on turrets all map till SD comes.
Actually Trem was design to play with ff off from what I hear. FF on is what breaks balance. That and adding 160 (or more) additional build points.
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HIGH BP SUCKS... it always ends up in someone changing teams and deconning because there is basically nothing else that can be done.
Humans can expand their massive rows of turrets, but fat lot of good 50 acid tubes are going to do the aliens when someone has a grenade.
Play some games on tjw, high build points ff and still balanced 8) .
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Nice, AKKA is up again, few hours ago could not find it. I just played other server as an alien, ff on, and it was OK. I played whole game as a dretch, I had 2nd most kills, over 20. Dretch+booster (ff on) is nice, you can play like a kamikaze, just give room to tyrants. When ff is off, people lucy spam and flame like crazy, dretch is no good vs s3. Playing human, ff on, is difficult, humans need to work as a group, and when group starts shooting dretch, they will hit other humans. IMHO Aliens have advantage, when ff is on.
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Hmm, so let's see. we have two opinions. One says FF is bad and nother one likes it.
So what's good in no FF? Maybe that stupid and noob team mates can't hurt you. And cons are that humans can spam all passages to base as much as they want and just keep that trigger down without thinking about team mates getting hurt. Aliens can too just slash around like crarzy.
And what about when FF is on...People can jsut slash/fire all they can. They need to watch they won't hurt team mates and it makes tactics more useful. Somone said that tons of little aliens are dying with FF when tyrants just kill them when running. I don't care if I die as a dretch if I'm stupid enough to be on the floor on tyrant's way when tyrant is fighting for his/her life.
Playing human, ff on, is difficult, humans need to work as a group, and when group starts shooting dretch, they will hit other humans.
That's says it all...
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Its not just dretches.. that doesn't bother me when i see a dretch get killed.. its when people use their evo points and get killed by the tyrant.. its when they are already running to make room for the tyrant to get by and he charges and slashes them to death anyway...
That can be attributed to people being asses though..
It does make it annoying to help a teammate out by killing an alien thats attacking him as well....
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That can be attributed to people being asses though..
absoBLOODYlutely
>Playing human, ff on, is difficult, humans need to work as a group, and
>when group starts shooting dretch, they will hit other humans.
YES, this is a team game, not a spam all you can eat game.