Tremulous Forum

General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Smokey on July 12, 2006, 06:49:17 pm

Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: Smokey on July 12, 2006, 06:49:17 pm
3v3 Tourney
Each player may only play for one team. Ip´s WILL be tracked!
Map will be ACTS
NO CHEATING/Exploits/Bugs!!
Refs will be in game
No spectators
Once you have lost your match you are out of the tournament.



This tournament IS team based. Not clan, team. So you and a couple friends can make a team, register at www.trem.arena-zone.com then join the tournament. We also have a 3v3 ladder now.

Brackets:
http://trem.arena-zone.com/tournament.php?tourney[id]=11&action=brackets

Details:
http://trem.arena-zone.com//tournament.php?tourney[id]=11&action=details

Signup:
http://trem.arena-zone.com//tournament.php?tourney[id]=11&action=signup

16 team limit. If we dont fill them by Wensday, the 19th we will lower the size.

Servers for it to be played on are being worked out. We will hopefully have a choice of 2-3 servers for players to AGREE on. ATM we really have no prize although if you win, i will gladly give you some webspace and a subdomain of your choice from arena-zone.com!

Go sign up!
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: Smokey on July 12, 2006, 09:01:53 pm
sign up guys :)
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: zeta on July 12, 2006, 09:22:46 pm
im in i just need 1 more person for clan tremors(not dont have to join to play with me and ace07 just be good)
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: Thorn on July 12, 2006, 10:15:19 pm
Mass drivers have joined , need 1 more person.
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: zeta on July 13, 2006, 12:07:38 am
sweet sweet
Remember u got til the 19th to make a team so dont rush yourself
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: Thorn on July 13, 2006, 12:57:23 am
DONT RUSH!?!?!?!?!? i got 6 days to find a pro player , u know how rare they are? Kellar j has left mdc so this could pretty much be screwed

And another thing . i registered , entered my team and now i cant log back in. it sais i got username or password wrong but its correct . i tried revalidating but it sais no such validation code exists .

edit : i enter my player id and it still tells me to fuck off.can i hack that webpage now? :evil:
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: zeta on July 13, 2006, 01:16:39 am
il fix it for u
!
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: Smokey on July 13, 2006, 03:47:30 am
use forgot password function
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: zeta on July 13, 2006, 04:25:18 am
i already fixed it for him
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: [db@]Megabite on July 13, 2006, 08:25:00 am
What about the server configuration? This has been discussed before in a thread concerning clanwars. Using the default config will likely not be very practical.

As far as I remember it was something like this for 3on3:

- standard build points and timers
- timelimit 30
- suddendeath 20 or 25
- password protection
- each team choses one map
- each team plays humans and aliens on each map
- total of 4 games

With 30 minutes timelimit this should be maximum of two and a half hours including little breaks between matches.
And what about available maps? Transit should be too big for a decent 3on3 whereas atcs and uncreation should be near perfect, others okay.
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: Smokey on July 13, 2006, 03:05:12 pm
that but one map. 30 mins.
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: [db@]Megabite on July 13, 2006, 03:22:52 pm
Okay, but which one? Decided by an admin, decided by one team?

Danny
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: Smokey on July 13, 2006, 03:52:33 pm
in the info, it says ACTS =]
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: Neo on July 13, 2006, 04:14:38 pm
So I assume it'll be ATCS :D

Anyway, i'll help out any team looking for a third.
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: Thorn on July 13, 2006, 04:22:10 pm
Quote from: "Neo"
So I assume it'll be ATCS :D

Anyway, i'll help out any team looking for a third.


MDC
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: rasz_pl on July 13, 2006, 04:36:27 pm
on WHAT server? US or EU?
FF on? buildings FF on?
timelimit? SD?
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: zeta on July 13, 2006, 04:41:57 pm
FF on

SD 35 minutes, Time is 50

random team selection

and its on a DB server we hope!

heres what megabite said

"Due to performance issues the 10 slot #db@ Centauri Minor server has been shut down.
This is partly to make room for more slots on the #db@ Derelict server which is configured to have 14 instead of 12 public slots now.

Most likely #db@ Andromeda will be taken down as well to be used as a server for the upcoming Tremulous League.
Things have to be worked out there, though. The server will stay online until it is needed for the league."
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: Thorn on July 13, 2006, 04:48:48 pm
will the server be password protected?
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: zeta on July 13, 2006, 04:50:12 pm
ya
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: Smokey on July 13, 2006, 04:53:34 pm
Quote from: "zeta"
FF on

SD 35 minutes, Time is 50

random team selection

and its on a DB server we hope!

heres what megabite said

"Due to performance issues the 10 slot #db@ Centauri Minor server has been shut down.
This is partly to make room for more slots on the #db@ Derelict server which is configured to have 14 instead of 12 public slots now.

Most likely #db@ Andromeda will be taken down as well to be used as a server for the upcoming Tremulous League.
Things have to be worked out there, though. The server will stay online until it is needed for the league."



disregard what he said. he knows nothing. We will have a euro and us server hopefully.
- standard build points and timers
- timelimit 30
- suddendeath 20 or 25
- password protection
- Building FFire.



zeta, please ask before you reply to a thread
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: zeta on July 13, 2006, 05:22:21 pm
sry man, i knew u were going to say that too lol

but ya
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: Neo on July 13, 2006, 05:44:27 pm
Just thinking about mercing which is kinda what i'm gonna try for the tourney but with limitations.

I'd think its ok if you make it so they can only merc for one team for the duration of a specific tourney.

for those not aware of it, a merc is someone who plays as part of a clan for a match without actually being part of that clan.

For the 3v3 i'll help out MDC.
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: Thorn on July 13, 2006, 06:38:15 pm
Quote from: "Neo"


For the 3v3 i'll help out MDC.


thx m8

ive invite u
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: Neo on July 13, 2006, 06:45:11 pm
Just an afterthought on the merc system, would be handy to have a loosening of the rules if a team can't front the required players. As its always better to have a game than a default.
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: Smokey on July 13, 2006, 07:14:06 pm
if there not on the team by playing time, they cant play. you can have a 10 player team though.
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: rasz_pl on July 13, 2006, 10:31:40 pm
Quote from: "Smokey"
disregard what he said. he knows nothing. We will have a euro and us server hopefully.
- standard build points and timers
- timelimit 30
- suddendeath 20 or 25
- password protection
- Building FFire.


Building FFire what? and normal FF what? How exactly will euro and us server thingie work? Who and how will decide where we play when one team is US based and other is civiliz^^^^ Euro :) ?
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: Neo on July 13, 2006, 10:35:36 pm
Building FF is where shots only damage buildings, I think its the default setting. normal friendly fire is where you can kill anyone(bad news for goons).

If by 4 games i'm assuming they play each side twice, then we can have 2 games on a US server and 2 on a Euro server.
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: rasz_pl on July 13, 2006, 11:50:29 pm
Quote from: "Neo"
Building FF is where shots only damage buildings, I think its the default setting. normal friendly fire is where you can kill anyone(bad news for goons).


yes, and i'm asking specifically -will it be ON or OFF? also what about normal FF?
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: Smokey on July 14, 2006, 02:45:22 am
read my post. its on.

1 map played 1 time. in the case of a draw it goes to team with most kills.
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: Smokey on July 14, 2006, 05:41:39 am
page 2?
bump
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: rasz_pl on July 14, 2006, 05:43:03 am
Quote from: "Smokey"
read my post. its on.


I read all your posts in this topic twice and this is the first one when you answer directly

Quote from: "Smokey"
1 map played 1 time. in the case of a draw it goes to team with most kills.


ok this is stupid, count me out
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: zeta on July 14, 2006, 06:23:00 am
Quote from: "rasz_pl"
Quote from: "Smokey"
read my post. its on.


I read all your posts in this topic twice and this is the first one when you answer directly

Quote from: "Smokey"
1 map played 1 time. in the case of a draw it goes to team with most kills.


ok this is stupid, count me out



..... 1 time because it saves times, and idk if u want to ref 20 matches

Go ahead, but since im a ref im not going to be doing a 2 teams more then once, unless its the final one,

maybe we could have the finals be played 3 times
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: Karvajalka on July 14, 2006, 07:40:16 am
I don't like the fact that kills are the thing that matters. It supports human camping to the end. And anyway, kills aren't the thing that matters, anyone can kill tons of dretches with good aim and lucy/pulse/or pretty much anything.
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: PHREAK on July 14, 2006, 09:43:47 am
On a 3v3, a 30 min with 20-25 sd seems a bit short now, doesn't it?
I'm simply guessing that this will end in many, many unfinished stalemates with no fun involved.
It would seldom move beyond s2 unless it's freshlings against vets.
Just my $0.02
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: [db@]Megabite on July 14, 2006, 09:56:28 am
Because of only 3 players in your team you evolve to stage 2 in 12 kills. With only 3 defenders on the losing team it usually is no problem finishing a base in 5 minutes deathtime... 10 minutes would bring almost no stalemates at all.

Mind that a clanwar is completely different from a public game. Things go coordinated, when aliens attack it is a 3-dretch-horde, humans won't go out alone, either. So the team with the better teamplay and sometimes better skill will faster get the upper hand.

Danny
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: PHREAK on July 14, 2006, 10:16:01 am
Well I've played my share of clanwars, and while I agree that it's a whole different animal, 3 dretches have no way of getting into hummie base. On the other hand, 3 s1 hummies are fudged vs one good goon.
I'd like to see hour games and 45 SD. This means that all games would ave to end by reactor/om destruction, egg hunts, last hummie hunts.
Hummies have to semi-camp in s1, vet or not. 3 s1 hummies are dead on the spot vs 2 dretches.
This is just my experience.
I almost only play on small servers, often playing 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 and I have to tell you that it takes time since games are much slower and strategy based.
Another $0.02 from me ;)
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: Neo on July 14, 2006, 10:25:37 am
my $0.02 is that it might be worth doing some test runs as camping humies can stalemate whenever they want to. though outside a marauder can easily shred small human teams.
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: rasz_pl on July 14, 2006, 01:35:56 pm
kills as a winning ticket are just WRONG, as an example i can give yesterdays match. 8v8 server, Tremor, clan of asshats on human side vs 6 newbies + one pro+one member of same ahsshat clan, after 5 minuted that member changed sides to human because aliens were raped. To make the story short I joined aliens when they got no om, last egg, one pro player as a desperate crazy builder and hordes of S2 humans hunting everything that moved. The game ended few minutes before SD with Aliens winning. My score ~80-90 +tons of TKed dretches with a tyrr, next alien  had ~20 kills. WORST Human had ~20 kills, 3 best all >80kills.

This game is NOT about kills. I often sacrifice mara or a tyr to kill Armory/DC/Telenodes. I often feed S3 humans while dretching just to get 5 evos and rape them later.
I never saw a draw game with aliens having more kills.

Karith station + humans in elev room = tie if they camp and huge scores for humans.

This idea is stupid. Besides you dont have to sit on every match. You can ask them to record demos, and you can review them later in case of a conflict.
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: [db@]Megabite on July 14, 2006, 01:56:19 pm
Quote from: "PHREAK"
3 dretches have no way of getting into hummie base.


No need to. Either humans rush out for a hunt or you wait 6 minutes to rape the base with 3 goons covering each other.

Danny
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: Neo on July 14, 2006, 03:37:23 pm
yeah, the kills bit was an arguement against the need for stats logging, aliens at best will have half the human kills after a long game, only more if they rape humans in the opening minutes.

But as there are teams taking turns in the rare case of 2 draws you can compare kills.
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: Karvajalka on July 14, 2006, 03:47:49 pm
Quote from: "rasz_pl"
kills as a winning ticket are just WRONG, as an example i can give yesterdays match. 8v8 server, Tremor, clan of asshats on human side vs 6 newbies + one pro+one member of same ahsshat clan, after 5 minuted that member changed sides to human because aliens were raped.

Wasn't the clan YK?
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: zeta on July 14, 2006, 04:15:58 pm
Quote from: "rasz_pl"
kills as a winning ticket are just WRONG, as an example i can give yesterdays match. 8v8 server, Tremor, clan of asshats on human side vs 6 newbies + one pro+one member of same ahsshat clan, after 5 minuted that member changed sides to human because aliens were raped. To make the story short I joined aliens when they got no om, last egg, one pro player as a desperate crazy builder and hordes of S2 humans hunting everything that moved. The game ended few minutes before SD with Aliens winning. My score ~80-90 +tons of TKed dretches with a tyrr, next alien  had ~20 kills. WORST Human had ~20 kills, 3 best all >80kills.

This game is NOT about kills. I often sacrifice mara or a tyr to kill Armory/DC/Telenodes. I often feed S3 humans while dretching just to get 5 evos and rape them later.
I never saw a draw game with aliens having more kills.

Karith station + humans in elev room = tie if they camp and huge scores for humans.

This idea is stupid. Besides you dont have to sit on every match. You can ask them to record demos, and you can review them later in case of a conflict.


what are u talking about, i switched to aliens...... because aliens were loosing

and i just lost all my credits cuz my game crashed.... and humans cant do shit at S3 if they just joined...

pluss im not a asshat and ive pwned plenty of times...
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: Ace07 on July 14, 2006, 08:31:50 pm
I don't remember being an asshat recently.  I am sorry for the apparent misunderstanding.
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: Thorn on July 15, 2006, 10:07:12 pm
pff .give it a day , mass drivers may have to resign due to a lack of a 3rd member

is trem zone down for now or something?
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: KorJax on July 16, 2006, 05:44:53 pm
Ok, im interested.  How would I join?  I registered, but it wont let me join because I am not apart of a "team".  Mind telling me what I need to do become part of a team to play the tourney?
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: Thorn on July 16, 2006, 06:56:03 pm
ask for a team looking for someone else. they will invite u and u get in the team and . and . and well take a  guess waht apppppeeeennnnsss
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: Thorn on July 22, 2006, 11:22:32 pm
what happened to this tourney
? Wenesday has passed , and
 still no1 is interested in this tournament.
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: kramed on July 22, 2006, 11:40:56 pm
I want to play I just need a decent team
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: Neo on July 23, 2006, 12:44:17 am
Judging from the site stats the number of people not in a team is a bit silly. So we might have to try and organize the 'spare' players into groups of 3.
Title: 3v3 Tournament!
Post by: Thorn on July 23, 2006, 03:26:02 am
Quote from: "Neo"
Judging from the site stats the number of people not in a team is a bit silly. So we might have to try and organize the 'spare' players into groups of 3.


yes