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Title: COPYING?revision=747 - Add evillair's license exception back - noncommercial onl
Post by: libretrem-gNS on December 02, 2009, 04:30:49 pm
Hi,

I've been in recent contact with evillair regarding CC-BY-SA by sending a message through http://www.evillair.net/v2/index.php?option=com_contact&Itemid=3 .

Evillair doesn't want commercial use.
Quote from: evillair
My textures can be freely used in free games.
All commercial uses need to have my permission.

Some special licenses are granted for some games so they can use my textures to help them out.
Ok, but I want clarification, so I ask this:
Quote from: evillair
All commercial uses need to have my permission.
Quote from: libretrem-gNS
Even in the case of those special cases you mentioned for some games?
Quote from: evillair
Yes, they ask me if they can use them and we come up with an arrangement.
In the copyright file revision 747[[0]] evillair's license exception was removed. In the copyright file revision 741[[1]] you can find evillair's copyright notice whose work is licensed under the http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.5/ license.
Maybe add evillair's notice back to the copyright file?

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[[0]] -- http://svn.icculus.org/tremulous/trunk/COPYING?revision=747&view=markup
[[1]] -- http://svn.icculus.org/tremulous/trunk/COPYING?revision=741&view=markup
Title: Re: COPYING?revision=747 - Add evillair's license exception back - noncommercial onl
Post by: CreatureofHell on December 02, 2009, 04:35:14 pm
Tremulous isn't commercial...
Title: Re: COPYING?revision=747 - Add evillair's license exception back - noncommercial onl
Post by: David on December 02, 2009, 06:31:03 pm
That file is kinda funny, as it doesn't say which bit cover which assets.
Title: Re: COPYING?revision=747 - Add evillair's license exception back - noncommercial onl
Post by: libretrem-gNS on December 02, 2009, 07:06:37 pm
This link[[0]] showing the difference between revisions 741 and 747 of the same COPYING file I mentioned before:

[[0]] -- http://svn.icculus.org/tremulous/trunk/COPYING?pathrev=775&view=diff&r1=741&r2=747&diff_format=h
Title: Re: COPYING?revision=747 - Add evillair's license exception back - noncommercial onl
Post by: David on December 02, 2009, 07:17:46 pm
Doesn't say which assets are covered by which license.
Does tremulous even use any of the dudes stuff these days?
Title: Re: COPYING?revision=747 - Add evillair's license exception back - noncommercial onl
Post by: Repatition on December 02, 2009, 07:28:59 pm
NANO,ATCTS AND MORE
Title: Re: COPYING?revision=747 - Add evillair's license exception back - noncommercial onl
Post by: libretrem-gNS on December 02, 2009, 07:32:26 pm
Just found in the map map-niveus-1.1.0.pk3. If you open that file, then check the texture /textures/niveus/e6girdergrate.jpg . It's called e6 because it's evillair's '6th set'[[0]] of textures .

I hope I'm wrong... and that evillair told me the things quoted above, because he forgot he had agreed with the Tremulous team to relicense these textures under CC-BY-SA 2.5 .

Yes Repatition, I know about atcs, but I don't have any examples at the moment to show.

[[0]] -- http://www.evillair.net/v2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30&Itemid=45
Title: Re: COPYING?revision=747 - Add evillair's license exception back - noncommercial onl
Post by: Timbo on December 02, 2009, 08:13:54 pm
Quote from: evillair
Tim Angus wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 20:44:23 -0500 YvesA wrote:
>   
>>   I rather just use the one I have now but since it says "Any of
>> these conditions can be waived if you get permission from the
>> copyright holder." Then I give you permission to use them in your
>> projects. So "technically" I am waving the "No Derivative Works" from
>> the license. (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.5/)
>> Sound good?
>>     
>
> The problem there is that in our license file we would have to say that
> by-nc-nd applies to your textures, except that parts of it don't -- it
> all gets a bit messy. In effect by waiving those parts it becomes the
> same as by-sa anyway.
>
>   
>> If not I can release them under the
>> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/ license for your
>> project.
>>     
>
> This would be very much the prefered license from our point of view as
> it makes things so much simpler, but ultimately they're your textures
> and it's your decision.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>   
Ok, I'll release them under this license http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/
for your project. :)
I'll retain my current license for my website though.
Thanks