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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Are92 on February 14, 2010, 11:27:05 pm

Title: Best Units
Post by: Are92 on February 14, 2010, 11:27:05 pm: What are the mot advanced units/weapons?
Title: Re: Best Units
Post by: bob0 on February 15, 2010, 01:02:14 am: Metre!
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Post by: Plague Bringer on February 15, 2010, 03:02:23 am: HAHAHAHAHA, BOB
Title: Re: Best Units
Post by: Are92 on February 15, 2010, 03:14:05 am: You know that's not what i meant. Funny tho! :D
Title: Re: Best Units
Post by: Plague Bringer on February 15, 2010, 03:35:51 am: In Trem, each class & weapon is (more or less) effective against SOMETHING the whole game. The Tyrant and Lucifer Cannon are the most expensive, but they're certainly not the best. Personally, I like the lasgun and the basi/goon way more than the luci and the rant. ;)
Title: Re: Best Units
Post by: Are92 on February 15, 2010, 04:15:25 am: Thanks.
Title: Re: Best Units
Post by: mooseberry on February 15, 2010, 04:33:06 am: Quote from: Plague Bringer on February 15, 2010, 03:35:51 am
In Trem, each class & weapon is (more or less) effective against SOMETHING the whole game. The Tyrant and Lucifer Cannon are the most expensive, but they're certainly not the best. Personally, I like the lasgun and the basi/goon way more than the luci and the rant. ;)

Although it really is a matter of opinion, like plague bringer is hinting at. The Tyrant and Lucifer Cannon are the most advanced "units," as to your post, but they are not neccesarily the best, which is your thread title, and what plague bringer said, although in 1.2, as of the posting, lucifer cannons killed the most aliens and structures. (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=12489.0) (Combined, not both individually.)

But basically, any weapon or alien can be deadly when used correctly. (Even granger!)
Title: Re: Best Units
Post by: MitSugna on February 15, 2010, 06:22:17 am: Granger of course; you can build eggs that can spawn team mates. Best thing is you don't need to fix them... haha human suckers!
Title: Re: Best Units
Post by: Liskey on February 15, 2010, 12:44:28 pm: Lies - I'd like to fix a lot of the aliens I spawned with an egg.
Title: Re: Best Units
Post by: madmadmad on February 15, 2010, 03:14:19 pm: mara for sure
fight and flight is my favourite
but the hitbox is a bit too large imo
Title: Re: Best Units
Post by: Norfenstein on February 15, 2010, 10:19:58 pm: Stats from Phase 3:

EU Player Kills
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Total Percent Rank MOD Human Weapons 82195 21133 25.71% 1 MACHINEGUN 11707 14.24% 2 LASGUN 8858 10.78% 3 LCANNON (combined) 8351 10.16% 4 PRIFLE 7730 9.40% 5 MDRIVER 7613 9.26% 6 FLAMER (combined) 6758 8.22% FLAMER 5747 6.99% 7 CHAINGUN 5298 6.45% 8 SHOTGUN 4571 5.56% LCANNON 4287 5.22% LCANNON_SPLASH 2612 3.18% 9 PAINSAW 2442 2.97% 10 GRENADE 1060 1.29% 11 BLASTER 855 1.04% FLAMER_SPLASH Human Structures 13703 11958 87.27% MGTURRET 698 5.09% REACTOR 583 4.25% HSPAWN 464 3.39% TESLAGEN Alien Weapons 58127 18341 31.55% 1 LEVEL0_BITE 17993 30.95% 2 LEVEL3 (combined) 11032 18.98% 3 LEVEL2 (combined) 8597 14.79% LEVEL3_POUNCE 7964 13.70% LEVEL3_CLAW 7247 12.47% LEVEL2_CLAW 6027 10.37% 4 LEVEL4 (combined) 4081 7.02% 5 LEVEL1_CLAW 3785 6.51% LEVEL2_ZAP 3781 6.50% LEVEL4_CLAW 2143 3.69% LEVEL4_TRAMPLE 1432 2.46% LEVEL3_BOUNCEBALL 1350 2.32% 6 POISON 106 0.18% 7 ABUILDER (combined) 103 0.18% LEVEL4_CRUSH 97 0.17% ABUILDER_CLAW 9 0.02% SLOWBLOB Alien Structures 1323 962 72.71% ATUBE 183 13.83% SWARM 140 10.58% OVERMIND 38 2.87% ASPAWN Other 1324 375 28.32% TRIGGER_HURT 305 23.04% FALLING 208 15.71% TELEFRAG 171 12.92% CRUSH 163 12.31% LAVA 87 6.57% SUICIDE 15 1.13% WATER
US Player Kills
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Total Percent Rank MOD Human Weapons 105369 26125 24.79% 1 MACHINEGUN 13084 12.42% 2 LASGUN 12384 11.75% 3 MDRIVER 10916 10.36% 4 LCANNON (combined) 9806 9.31% 5 FLAMER (combined) 9062 8.60% 6 PRIFLE 8735 8.29% FLAMER 8597 8.16% 7 CHAINGUN 7517 7.13% 8 SHOTGUN 5589 5.30% LCANNON 5327 5.06% LCANNON_SPLASH 3625 3.44% 9 PAINSAW 3270 3.10% 10 GRENADE 1071 1.02% 11 BLASTER 1071 1.02% FLAMER_SPLASH Human Structures 14024 12097 86.26% MGTURRET 793 5.65% REACTOR 582 4.15% TESLAGEN 552 3.94% HSPAWN Alien Weapons 75885 25030 32.98% 1 LEVEL3 (combined) 22746 29.97% 2 LEVEL0_BITE 12148 16.01% LEVEL3_CLAW 11907 15.69% 3 LEVEL2 (combined) 11070 14.59% LEVEL3_POUNCE 8940 11.78% 4 LEVEL4 (combined) 7919 10.44% LEVEL2_CLAW 6176 8.14% LEVEL4_CLAW 5375 7.08% 5 LEVEL1_CLAW 3988 5.26% LEVEL2_ZAP 2624 3.46% LEVEL4_TRAMPLE 1812 2.39% LEVEL3_BOUNCEBALL 1759 2.32% 6 POISON 140 0.18% LEVEL4_CRUSH 128 0.17% 7 ABUILDER (combined) 113 0.15% ABUILDER_CLAW 15 0.02% SLOWBLOB Alien Structures 2357 1552 65.85% ATUBE 486 20.62% SWARM 266 11.29% OVERMIND 53 2.25% ASPAWN Other 1803 476 26.40% FALLING 452 25.07% TRIGGER_HURT 381 21.13% LAVA 180 9.98% SUICIDE 151 8.37% CRUSH 151 8.37% TELEFRAG 12 0.67% WATER
EU Structure Kills
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Total Percent Rank MOD Human Weapons 15457 2477 16.03% 1 GRENADE 2368 15.32% 2 MACHINEGUN 2356 15.24% 3 LCANNON (combined) 2270 14.69% 4 PRIFLE 1916 12.40% LCANNON 1692 10.95% 5 PAINSAW 1672 10.82% 6 LASGUN 1153 7.46% 7 FLAMER (combined) 1065 6.89% FLAMER 568 3.67% 8 CHAINGUN 538 3.48% 9 BLASTER 451 2.92% 10 MDRIVER 440 2.85% LCANNON_SPLASH 375 2.43% 11 SHOTGUN 88 0.57% FLAMER_SPLASH Alien Weapons 14290 5652 39.55% 1 LEVEL2 (combined) 5128 35.89% 2 LEVEL3 (combined) 2899 20.29% LEVEL3_CLAW 2892 20.24% LEVEL2_CLAW 2760 19.31% LEVEL2_ZAP 1640 11.48% LEVEL3_BOUNCEBALL 1372 9.60% 3 LEVEL4 (combined) 1290 9.03% LEVEL4_CLAW 1094 7.66% 4 LEVEL1_CLAW 652 4.56% 5 LEVEL0_BITE 589 4.12% LEVEL3_POUNCE 187 1.31% 6 ABUILDER_CLAW 79 0.55% LEVEL4_TRAMPLE 3 0.02% LEVEL4_CRUSH Other 2500 2160 86.40% NOCREEP 340 13.60% DECONSTRUCT
US Structure Kills
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Total Percent Rank MOD Human Weapons 21101 3390 16.07% 1 GRENADE 3163 14.99% 2 MACHINEGUN 2959 14.02% 3 LCANNON (combined) 2500 11.85% 4 PRIFLE 2480 11.75% 5 PAINSAW 2338 11.08% LCANNON 2178 10.32% 6 LASGUN 1685 7.99% 7 FLAMER (combined) 1571 7.45% FLAMER 777 3.68% 8 CHAINGUN 735 3.48% 9 BLASTER 621 2.94% LCANNON_SPLASH 602 2.85% 10 MDRIVER 479 2.27% 11 SHOTGUN 114 0.54% FLAMER_SPLASH Alien Weapons 15104 6842 45.30% 1 LEVEL3 (combined) 5100 33.77% 2 LEVEL2 (combined) 3747 24.81% LEVEL3_CLAW 2605 17.25% LEVEL2_ZAP 2495 16.52% LEVEL2_CLAW 2339 15.49% LEVEL3_BOUNCEBALL 1804 11.94% 3 LEVEL4 (combined) 1684 11.15% LEVEL4_CLAW 1231 8.15% 4 LEVEL1_CLAW 756 5.01% LEVEL3_POUNCE 522 3.46% 5 LEVEL0_BITE 267 1.77% 6 ABUILDER_CLAW 117 0.77% LEVEL4_TRAMPLE 3 0.02% LEVEL4_CRUSH Other 3677 3263 88.74% NOCREEP 414 11.26% DECONSTRUCT
So clearly the rifle is the best weapon.
Title: Re: Best Units
Post by: Demolution on February 16, 2010, 06:22:55 am: What does "(combined)" mean after some of the weapons?

W00t lasgun is second best!
Title: Re: Best Units
Post by: kozak6 on February 16, 2010, 07:07:24 am: The most advanced units are obviously part of the Metric System.

To be honest, the English system is more of a series of apparently unrelated units somehow very loosely based on a duodecimal system.

And as an American student of science, I am willing to admit to this.

Stupid [whoever], ruining unit conversions for the rest of us >:(.

To be fair, there are some quite fair uses of the CGS system, which has some potentially very magical advantages.

Amd I'm not even sure how Slayer's music factors into all of this.

At any rate, I forgot what you were asking since I am far too busy headbanging.

In game, the Lucy Suit/Tyrant are technically the most advanced. But that doesn't mean they are the most useful. Or the most sober.
Title: Re: Best Units
Post by: Norfenstein on February 16, 2010, 10:43:00 pm: Quote from: Demolution on February 16, 2010, 06:22:55 am
What does "(combined)" mean after some of the weapons?
All the attacks for that class/weapon summed (e.g. tyrant slash + trample + crush).

http://i.imgur.com/Q9Jru.jpg
Title: Re: Best Units
Post by: Liskey on February 16, 2010, 11:27:38 pm: GM, Ford, Chrysler and the SAE doing their part to make sure that toolmakers everywhere get to sell to Americans twice! Toolbox bloat ftl.