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Community => Mod Ideas and Desires => Topic started by: Kingnickolas on April 25, 2010, 04:47:40 am

Title: Visable Spectators?!?!?! :D
Post by: Kingnickolas on April 25, 2010, 04:47:40 am
I thought it would be cool if people could see the spectator people floating in the air! Like something that wouldn't be game changing, like just a floating little camera that trails behind someone when you follow them, or floats and fly's when your free spectating. Or since some servers have noclip on for spectators, something partway-see through.
Interesting Idea?
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Post by: your face on April 25, 2010, 05:46:10 am
A GHOST
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Post by: Kingnickolas on April 25, 2010, 05:55:41 am
A GHOST
That would be cool.
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Post by: your face on April 25, 2010, 06:02:27 am
When it touches players, they get slimed, and can't move very fast.

Okay, that's taking it too far.
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Post by: Chomps123 on April 25, 2010, 06:53:08 am
I think it should look a little like a probe. :-\
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Post by: DraZiLoX on April 25, 2010, 08:13:35 am
I think it should be only name floating.
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Post by: Superpie on April 25, 2010, 09:01:26 am
did this in 1.1 with the bubble particle system and some help from (I think) rezyn, the result was pretty annoying because of the bubbles themselves and the popping noise; spectators mostly thought it was either very nice or a violation of their privacy

if it could be done with something barely visible like a fly or single small bubble it'd be nice, so that specs wouldn't swarm around the most interesting player or try to annoy people
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Post by: ACKMAN on April 25, 2010, 04:25:47 pm
Halo

(http://media.mlgpro.com/site/images/features/forgept2.jpg)
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Post by: mooseberry on April 26, 2010, 04:42:55 am
Something small, and not highly distracting, but still noticable sounds nice.
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Post by: Enshoku on April 26, 2010, 05:02:24 am
I like the idea, but how would speccing other players work?
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Post by: Kingnickolas on April 26, 2010, 11:31:13 pm
I like the idea, but how would speccing other players work?
Something like the probe/ghost is floating behind them. Then the player gets some kind of image in the HUD that shows there's someone spectating them... lol, I posted this last night, and look how many people agree!
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Post by: Enshoku on April 27, 2010, 01:39:24 am
I like the idea, but how would speccing other players work?
Something like the probe/ghost is floating behind them. Then the player gets some kind of image in the HUD that shows there's someone spectating them... lol, I posted this last night, and look how many people agree!
But then you have the problem of people always aware they are being specced. Much like /serverstatus, this can be a bit irksome when checking people for bots.
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Post by: Kingnickolas on April 27, 2010, 01:58:57 am
Whats wrong with people being aware of being spectated? I think that would be cool... It shouldn't really matter as long as its not too big and bothersome. In fact it could just be something in the console, like
"Kingnickolas is spectating you"
or
"Yourface is spectating you"
 lol.
Also, other team players spectating probably shouldn't be shown since it would be kinda bad to have so many ghosts/probes in one place. 0.0 Mabe not?
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Post by: Enshoku on April 27, 2010, 02:36:54 am
Whats wrong with people being aware of being spectated? I think that would be cool... It shouldn't really matter as long as its not too big and bothersome. In fact it could just be something in the console, like
"Kingnickolas is spectating you"
or
"Yourface is spectating you"
 lol.
Also, other team players spectating probably shouldn't be shown since it would be kinda bad to have so many ghosts/probes in one place. 0.0 Mabe not?
My point was in the case of spectators who DO NOT WANT... people to know that they are being spectated, for reasons like aimbot checks and the like. Skilled botters already know to use serverstatus to check if an admin is watching them, giving such a feature to everyone would simply make adminning more difficult.
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Post by: SlackerLinux on April 27, 2010, 02:39:45 am
Whats wrong with people being aware of being spectated? I think that would be cool... It shouldn't really matter as long as its not too big and bothersome. In fact it could just be something in the console, like
"Kingnickolas is spectating you"
or
"Yourface is spectating you"
 lol.
Also, other team players spectating probably shouldn't be shown since it would be kinda bad to have so many ghosts/probes in one place. 0.0 Mabe not?

"HeadAdmin is spectating you"
"AdminMinion#1 is spectating you"
"AdminMinion#2 is spectating you"
...
"AdminMinion#N is spectating you"

and guess what the players going to turn off
My point was in the case of spectators who DO NOT WANT... people to know that they are being spectated, for reasons like aimbot checks and the like. Skilled botters already know to use serverstatus to check if an admin is watching them, giving such a feature to everyone would simply make adminning more difficult.

serverstatus isnt perfect i think most qvm's now dont duplicate all the info i do think 1-2 items are still the same though
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Post by: Enshoku on April 27, 2010, 04:35:58 am
Whats wrong with people being aware of being spectated? I think that would be cool... It shouldn't really matter as long as its not too big and bothersome. In fact it could just be something in the console, like
"Kingnickolas is spectating you"
or
"Yourface is spectating you"
 lol.
Also, other team players spectating probably shouldn't be shown since it would be kinda bad to have so many ghosts/probes in one place. 0.0 Mabe not?

"HeadAdmin is spectating you"
"AdminMinion#1 is spectating you"
"AdminMinion#2 is spectating you"
...
"AdminMinion#N is spectating you"

and guess what the players going to turn off
My point was in the case of spectators who DO NOT WANT... people to know that they are being spectated, for reasons like aimbot checks and the like. Skilled botters already know to use serverstatus to check if an admin is watching them, giving such a feature to everyone would simply make adminning more difficult.

serverstatus isnt perfect i think most qvm's now dont duplicate all the info i do think 1-2 items are still the same though
As far as I know, the latest version of lakitu's is, and I only frequent around 7-8 servers, 5 of which I know use lakitu's.
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Post by: Kingnickolas on April 27, 2010, 11:24:43 am
I'm thinking most of the people who spot wont notice they're being spectated and wont turn their bots off on time...
Besides that I have only this to say to people who use aimbot: GO GET A LIFE  :P
Anyway its just an idea... Still room for suggestions  ;D lol
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Post by: Enshoku on April 27, 2010, 07:34:08 pm
I'm thinking most of the people who spot wont notice they're being spectated and wont turn their bots off on time...
I dunno, we are talking about the epitome of the tremulous community here, as are smart enough to ask if admins are on before playing, so they must know what they are doing.
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Post by: UniqPhoeniX on April 27, 2010, 08:18:32 pm
If it can be immediately detected by client, then aimbots will be designed with an option to automatically disable while being specced.
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Post by: Kingnickolas on April 27, 2010, 10:59:31 pm
So then the people don't know they are being specced?  :P
That sounds right I guess, they won't know they are being spectated with a little ghost floating around their head! lol . Also maybe the ghosts are the fallen teammates, and the little probes are the actual spectators.  ::)
And maybe this is taking it a little to far, but what if the fallen teammates could control the turrets/tubes and stuff. :D
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Post by: Enshoku on April 28, 2010, 03:11:09 am
And maybe this is taking it a little to far
Yep.
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Post by: Kingnickolas on April 28, 2010, 09:02:19 pm
lolz
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Post by: amz181 on May 04, 2010, 07:08:13 pm
If you do this you have to make it so that the spectator can at will, turn into a luciball (or other nefarious, fear instilling graphics), and chase people around, killing them on contact. Obviously this would be an admin only privilege.

Tell me when its done.
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Post by: Kingnickolas on May 09, 2010, 07:08:05 am
I'm not doing it. Its too complicated  :P
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Post by: zybork on May 09, 2010, 04:23:20 pm
I am sympathetic to the idea, what about this:

• Free spectators are represented by small eyeball-avatars, this is: a simple white sphere with a dark spot on them indiciating the direction in which they look.
• If somebody gets spectated, those eyeballs change into a simple spike sticking out of the players back, so if somebody is really spikey, you know this guy is spectated by a lot of people.
• Spectator-avatars are only visible to a player if it is farther away or not inside/too near the crosshair to prevent obscuring the players sight.
• Players can opt to see spectators or not. Default should be to see them, of course.
• Maybe the eyeball-avatars could be semi-transparent, one important thing is that specs should NOT get in the way. It could be quite interesting to actually see spectators and it could add to the fun, it should not however diminish it.
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Post by: swamp-cecil on May 10, 2010, 08:23:52 pm
I really like this idea. i think a little blur with a name if a player looks at them as if they where teamates. and if they are following you for 5 seconds, it will say in red at the top left "(playername) is following you". why 5 seconds? because you usually scroll throughplayers. and if they are following you, they are not noticeable. if this is considered thread hijacking, then i apologize.
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Post by: Jedarus on May 10, 2010, 08:36:27 pm
If you do this you have to make it so that the spectator can at will, turn into a luciball (or other nefarious, fear instilling graphics), and chase people around, killing them on contact. Obviously this would be an admin only privilege.

Tell me when its done.

He should make the specs be able to turn into nades and land into the human base as well whenever they want to. So they can cause basenades and general havoc at any point in the game.
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Post by: mooseberry on May 13, 2010, 01:54:22 am
Visibile specs is a nice idea, being able to tell if someone is speccing you is not though.
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Post by: freecd on May 17, 2010, 11:10:36 pm
You could team up with a spec to distract other players.
"Look guys I have a spec on my head"