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General => Official Servers => Topic started by: Zort on May 05, 2010, 12:24:40 am

Title: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: Zort on May 05, 2010, 12:24:40 am
These are all playable, serious maps that I'd like to see on the GPP official servers.


CargoPort (http://downloads.mercenariesguild.net/maps/map-CargoPort-106.pk3)
(http://i40.tinypic.com/hvb9jm.jpg)
Powergrid (http://downloads.mercenariesguild.net/maps/map_powergrid_b25.pk3)
(http://i39.tinypic.com/etyvdh.jpg)
Wrecktify (http://downloads.mercenariesguild.net/maps/map-wrecktify_b1.pk3)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/33b31go.jpg)
Pump Station (http://downloads.mercenariesguild.net/maps/map-gloom3t.pk3)
(http://i39.tinypic.com/15d2x7a.jpg)
Waveform (http://downloads.mercenariesguild.net/maps/map-waveformbh.pk3) (Perhaps this map's not good enough. The screenshots in the levelshot have nothing to do with the map itself.)
(http://i43.tinypic.com/xmskcy.jpg)
Dryout (http://downloads.mercenariesguild.net/maps/map-dryout_b5a.pk3)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/wcek38.jpg)
Pulse (http://downloads.mercenariesguild.net/maps/map-pulse-beta3-1.1.0.pk3)
(http://i39.tinypic.com/og9c3k.jpg)
Spacetracks (http://downloads.mercenariesguild.net/maps/map-spacetracks_beta1.pk3)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/9gavk6.jpg)
Uranium (http://downloads.mercenariesguild.net/maps/map-uranium124.pk3) (Too much empty space between the bases?)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/10e1my1.jpg)

These maps aren't on US1, but I'm not sure if they're on EU1, since EU1 has micro_sim while US1 does not.
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: _Equilibrium_ on May 05, 2010, 01:27:21 am
and Battlezone!
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: A Spork on May 05, 2010, 01:39:36 am
Major F1 to Spacetracks!
Not sure about Dryout or pulse though myself.....
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: SlackerLinux on May 05, 2010, 02:15:47 am
Major F1 to Spacetracks!
Not sure about Dryout or pulse though myself.....
i like pulse and dryout :/
have some good memories with pumpstation on SST but i want 1.2 maps not 1.1 we need some mappers to start doing some 1.2 designed maps
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: Demolution on May 05, 2010, 02:50:19 am
Wasn't Pulse being refurbished, so to speak, by one of the devs?
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: your face on May 05, 2010, 03:07:00 am
Not one of the devs.  Taiyo. :D

I'm not so keen on having cargoport on the list since it was one of my early mapping attempts and quite frankly, it sucks (and lags horribly, because there is absolutely no optimization).

Spacetracks - I guess.
Pulse - Sure, I like it.  I know that it's said to be quite buggy, though.
Uranium - I don't recall this map.
Dryout - Yes!  Lots of empty space, but I think it should atleast be voteable.
Waveform - Meh.  Not a fan, but why not.
Pumpstation - Absolutely!!
Wrecktify - YES!
Powergrid - Yeah.
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: CorSair on May 05, 2010, 02:54:02 pm
Yep, need new maps to official servers.
have some good memories with pumpstation on SST but i want 1.2 maps not 1.1 we need some mappers to start doing some 1.2 designed maps
(Offtopic: I'm one trying to make new maps that should fit both 1.1 and 1.2gpp, but we'll see that. :P)

Quote from: your face
Pulse - Sure, I like it.  I know that it's said to be quite buggy, though.
Yes, it's still bit buggy on some parts. On doors while speccin. So... Taiyo, would finish it?  :) It's best map, IMHO. Would like to see more in official servers.

Waveform? yeah, not bad. Or actually, more than good map.
Spacetracks.... eeeh, aa, uum... guess we could try....
Dryout? uuuh.... don't know. Even as i've played that many times.
Others on that list? Don't know much of them.

And what about Groundsource?
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: mooseberry on May 06, 2010, 01:47:00 am
I don't like dryout at all really... the human's base inside that stupid truck thing (or w/e) stalls games long. It is literally the perfect vehicle for camping (pun intended). So humans rarely leave their base and the whole outside area is completely pointless.
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: your face on May 06, 2010, 02:24:52 am
+1 to groundsource
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: Lakitu7 on May 06, 2010, 04:17:02 am
Really the bar to make something vote-able is pretty low. As long as its gameplay reasonably attempts to be a Tremulous map it's probably fine.

I added everything suggested here (to both servers) except for Dryout. When I was flying around, I had my doubts about it. Then I saw the human base and that was /cancelvote for sure.

[edit]I also used mapconfigs to disallow maps from messing with BP, gravity, speed, or stages. Pulse and Infested Pump Station both do this otherwise, which also ends up affecting all maps played after them. AKKA vets will remember how much that sucks.

[edit2]
These maps aren't on US1, but I'm not sure if they're on EU1, since EU1 has micro_sim while US1 does not.
No it doesn't? The lists should be and are the same as each other. I just checked them both.
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: UniqPhoeniX on May 06, 2010, 07:27:33 am
[edit]I also used mapconfigs to disallow maps from messing with BP, gravity, speed, or stages. Pulse and Infested Pump Station both do this otherwise, which also ends up affecting all maps played after them. AKKA vets will remember how much that sucks.
WTF? Isn't default.cfg (in mapconfigs/ IIRC) supposed to be exec'd before every round, and thus be able to undo such changes? IIRC Pulse messed with gravity? Disabling that change in pulse *could* affect gameplay, but I dunno. Depends how the map was designed to be played (whether there was a reason for gravity change). What did Infested Pump Station modify?
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: kevlarman on May 06, 2010, 08:01:22 am
pulse also sets the stage thresholds to ~an order of magnitude lower than 1.2 defaults, so it has to be there. pulse's mapconfig can set the proper gravity.
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: your face on May 06, 2010, 08:27:56 am
I added everything suggested here...

Please, please, please, please remove cargoport.  As I said, there is no optimization.
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: Thorn on May 06, 2010, 03:58:03 pm
As I said, there is no optimization.

Then people should get a computer capable of dealing with that fact. Such a method has worked for years (marsbase anyone?)
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: your face on May 06, 2010, 04:15:20 pm
And also, when I made it (who knows why), I think first there was cargoport 106, then 101, then 102.  But in 106, the entire map is visible from any point iirc.  I think 102 is slightly better.
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: Lakitu7 on May 07, 2010, 01:31:35 am
Pump Station and Pulse both modified stage thresholds. Open either of them, join a team, and press tab. It's way too low.

Pulse also modified gravity.

Personally I couldn't give a crap if the map designers wanted these maps to be played with modified settings. Official servers are made to be a place where the game is played with standard settings. If the maps prove to not play well with standard settings we will remove them.
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: mooseberry on May 07, 2010, 06:50:09 am
Really.. cargoport... To be honest it is not playable for many people. That is good advice to get a good computer Thorn, but unfortunetly is not an option for some people. A bit like telling people to pick a better location to live in because their house was built poorly and it gets too cold in the winter.

I hope face isn't too disapointed, but I would vote take it out of the rotation as far as I can see. I use a decent little laptop, which is not meant for gaming no, but it can handle tremulous fine on most occasions, but I get 0 fps.
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: UniqPhoeniX on May 16, 2010, 06:22:26 pm
Citadel, temple-0.5.5, urbanp2, perhaps Sedna-beta3.
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: Liskey on May 19, 2010, 12:36:40 am
+1 on Citadel, and add Eden too.  Even Fort would be fun once in a while.
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: F50 on June 08, 2010, 01:23:56 am
I really would like citadel on the offical server.
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: Lakitu7 on June 08, 2010, 11:27:10 pm
Added citadel, temple, urban, sedna for vote-able.
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: Zort on June 08, 2010, 11:55:10 pm
aeolos-b2
aegis_station
enceladodepot4text1
ethereal
fail-b2
fatalerror
firstcontactfinal
freeport_21_a1
funzone_b3
gamma_core-final
gantry
ganymede-b11 (b12 fails with "Cl_ParseGamestate: bad command byte")
gfic
methane-alpha1 (yes.)
nebula-b5
nova6
Roomy-b2
sirius
sophcom_pre1 (yes.)
stamina-beta2
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: UniqPhoeniX on June 09, 2010, 01:49:49 am
aegis_station and gamma_core-final have bad vis :-\ don't know most of those tho.
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: your face on June 09, 2010, 02:36:43 am
We were planning on making a b3 of FAIL to fix the base layouts and some other stuff.  (The bases are much too close together, but the map is still fun to play in.  Maybe a rename as well, heh.)
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: A Spork on June 14, 2010, 12:11:03 am
I Would be Deeply honoured if I could get Rapier  (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=13503.0)on the official Servers
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: CorSair on June 21, 2010, 08:52:31 pm
I happened to play few times of map called Takana_b1. It is bit dull map, but seems to quite large, and seems to got good base spots for all over place.

But need someone to verify, would this be good for official servers.
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: Meisseli on June 22, 2010, 10:03:39 am
Perhaps add Mercy (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=13651.msg197792#new) for test play although I think it won't play that good.

Still, a really nice-looking map.
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: A Spork on June 22, 2010, 03:18:08 pm
Mercy is pretty, but the middle is uber laggy...
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: DraZiLoX on June 26, 2010, 09:03:24 pm
Mercy is not laggy for me. And my computer is not über : p
Title: Re: Maps for GPP Official Servers
Post by: A Spork on June 26, 2010, 09:20:03 pm
Mine is pretty ehhh....
integrated graphics....