Tremulous Forum
General => Official Servers => Topic started by: lucifer666s8n on May 23, 2010, 04:44:56 pm
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I am just curious, and as someone who ONCE IN A BLUE MOON feels like poking around 1.2, WHY are there no servers for 1.2 open at night (EST USA) I have seen 2 or 3, I think mainly Dretch Storm, and something in Chinese or something... Even the 'official' 1.1 servers are dead at night...
I am just curious, cause it seems like everyone talks about all this 1.2 gameplay, 1.1 clanfaggotry (Thank you Enshoku (AKA Omega) for that word) and yet the servers are dead at night except the few 1.1 modded servers etc...
Anyone have a clue as to why?
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People do sleep, you know.
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Yes face... I know they sleep.... But there are plenty of people up on 1.1.... On the modded servers anyway....
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A lot of the players who play on US Official 1 server are, unsurprisingly, from the USA, and thus share only 4 timezones (continential USA anyways) which means that during late night times a lot of them ARE going to be asleep. Or perhaps doing something besides playing tremulous.
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US1 is usually pretty busy from between 3:00pm-midnight-ish CST I believe...
So I have no idea what you're smoking...
And yes, people generally find sleep to be good.
Also, last I checked, 1.1 seems fairly quiet as of late...(not that I check often)
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1.1 is not quiet for starters... There are ALOT of 1.1 servers populated at night (NOT official ones)... Not to capacity, but still more than 1.2... Im lucky if I see 1 server up at night for 1.2... and that for me is from 10pm till around 1 weeknights and later on the weekends... EST so what are you smoking?
All I am saying is I have never seen OFFICIAL servers populated at night... Geez...
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well there is no 1.1 official servers AFAIK
and 1.2 is usually rather well populated at night.
I can demo with timestamps if you'd like
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You can glance through tremstats (http://stats.tremulous.net/tremstats/us1/games.php?hideempty=1) for official us.
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As of right now, there are probably still more 1.1 players than GPP players. The server being empty doesn't surprise me one bit.
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well there is no 1.1 official servers AFAIK
If you still have a 1.1 client, open up the server list and click show empty and then refresh... You will see several official 1.1 servers... Unless they got removed in the past week or so lol
I can demo with timestamps if you'd like
That would be helpful. I want to give 1.2 another try, seeing as I have been playing on not as severely a modded server as X lately... And it would be nice to play on a 1.2 server that is in English and not Chinese... That was a hard 15 minutes LOL
You can glance through tremstats for official us.
I have before, but I got confused... LOL.... Ill take a look again, seeing as the last time I looked I had only been involved with Trem at all for about a week... It was all Greek to me... LOL
The server being empty doesn't surprise me one bit.
Thanks... But contrary to popular belief I care about the entire Tremulous community... From the 'letter servers' to the odd KoRx server, to Officials 1.1 & 1.2... Im just fiercely brand loyal, i.e. my zealous defense of XserverX.com. But I have defended Tremulous itself from people I know that say its old, gay, retarded, for babies, noobs, fucktwits and asshats. I love the game... Seriously I do... I just dont get along with everyone sadly, when all we want is to see Trem stay alive so we all have something to do... Its what hold some of us together...
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Well, Right about now, there should be a pretty good game going on at US1...so whatever time it is for you right now, you just need to check it out.
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As of right now, there are probably still more 1.1 players than GPP players. The server being empty doesn't surprise me one bit.
1.1 has roughly 200 players playing in the hours I do, and GPP 20-40 (that's what I've observed from !tremstats at least)
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well there is no 1.1 official servers AFAIK
If you still have a 1.1 client, open up the server list and click show empty and then refresh... You will see several official 1.1 servers... Unless they got removed in the past week or so lol
There have never been official 1.1 servers.
You might be mistaking the Debian-failure "Tremulous 1.1.0 Server" for official, but those are just a result of people installing too much software from their repositories.
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There used to be the official dev servers.
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well if i knew how to get a 1.2 server going the way i want i would have it up 24/7 xD but its mostly the same way you run a 1.1 i know its just trying to mod the 1.2 is not working for me..
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well if i knew how to get a 1.2 server going the way i want i would have it up 24/7 xD but its mostly the same way you run a 1.1 i know its just trying to mod the 1.2 is not working for me..
I have one setup atm, but not on the master list b/c I can't seem to get admin privileges to stick/work at all.
Any ideas? lol
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I think this is the time to post my thoughts.
Tremulous used to be a good game. Until I met a certain person named GT-Dragoon then it was still a pretty good game. Now its an OK game because he muted me for using my "FOAR FRODO DA RING AND DA SHIRE!!!" bind. Now its a fucking retarded game because when I sang "Nothin' on you" to him a person named [g] :granger: BANNED me. Reason: song. SONG IS A REASON FOR BAN? Now I just quit the 1.2 because a very douchebag person named console on the US server banned me for reason: lol no. LOL NO IS NOT EVEN A SENTENCE/VALID REASON TO REINFORCE ANYTHING LET ALONE TREM BANNINGS. I have a thread about this and maybe I shall be heard.
I am now found in 1.1 where somewhat nice people are.
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Amen brotha.
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I think this is the time to post my thoughts.
Tremulous used to be a good game. Until I met a certain person named GT-Dragoon then it was still a pretty good game. Now its an OK game because he muted me for using my "FOAR FRODO DA RING AND DA SHIRE!!!" bind. Now its a fucking retarded game because when I sang "Nothin' on you" to him a person named [g] :granger: BANNED me. Reason: song. SONG IS A REASON FOR BAN? Now I just quit the 1.2 because a very douchebag person named console on the US server banned me for reason: lol no. LOL NO IS NOT EVEN A SENTENCE/VALID REASON TO REINFORCE ANYTHING LET ALONE TREM BANNINGS. I have a thread about this and maybe I shall be heard.
I am now found in 1.1 where somewhat nice people are.
Those seem like they're all misbehaving, unfirm GT members. I'd contact kharnov or medistation (noitatsidem) to resolve this issue.
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For the full 24 hours AA usually averages 17 players. Which usually translates of peak times of 22+ players. I almost never see less than 6 people on and that's just one(albeit it one of the most popular) 1.1 servers. There are times that I think AA alone rivals the entire GPP player base.
It's been like this for a while now, GPP's base is growing, but slowly. I wonder if it will ever get up to par with 1.1. It was having a push a while ago and died down. This summer could change it though.
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IF there is some serious upgrades to the game, AKA Graphics, models etc... Gpp might go somewhere.. Till then I think 1.1 will remain dominate. KORX has already proven that new models and new concepts are popular, and although the Vanilla community is set in their rut, change is good... It is stale devving and lack luster releases that will kill Trem... And Trem is something we should strive to keep alive.
I know that the devs are ever so busy doing other things, seeing as trem must be so hard to work on... Maybe others should offer their know-how.. Get the ball rolling. Of course as many good ideas that get struck down by either a stuck up dev OR a stuck up player who wants NOTHING new... Well, thats what is turning Trem from an open source enjoyable game, to a clique filled cluster of rival morons... Its a big community,,, Outcasts included...
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Funny though, I'm on the other side od the world and i see lots of american servers online during the day and practically none aussie.
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Trem has around 250 players, of which 50 play GPP, 150 play unlimited/x/modded, and 100 1.1.
Source: !tremstats from river-tam
And the Official Europe or US are usually full of players (around 20).
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Trem has around 250 players, of which 50 play GPP, 150 play unlimited/x/modded, and 100 1.1.
They have around 250 players? How active do they have to be to be counted in this group?
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Merely stats from one single time, but it's around the same or lower during the daylight playing hours in Europe.
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Trem has around 250 players, of which 50 play GPP, 150 play unlimited/x/modded, and 100 1.1.
Could do with rechecking the math there mate.
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Trem has around 250 players, of which 50 play GPP, 150 play unlimited/x/modded, and 100 1.1.
Could do with rechecking the math there mate.
Heh. 50/100/100 it should've been. Let's try again.
As of now for example: 224 players, of which 43 play 1.2, 101 some kind of a mod/unlimited and 80 1.1.
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Where did official 1.2 EU server go? Seems like it's up and running, but almost always unaccessible and missing from servers list for a long period
http://stats.tremulous.net/tremstats/eu1/
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Where did official 1.2 EU server go?
(http://imgur.com/vmSL8.png)
You can thank me later.
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THANK YOU!
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Oh god, that was silly ;D Thank you. Probably I misunderstood downtime at the end of phase 4
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I just want to note that it's not the quantity of players that matters, but the quality. Hence, even if AA has 64 players online and US1 has 4 players online, US1 still is the better choice.
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Think you meant to say is, "quantity sucks".
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AA sucks period. The chance of getting the noobs out of it = minimal.
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I really don't see how that is different from US1. In the end, it is really just 2 or 3 good players against each other and the rest of the team feeds and obstructs, and heaven forbid, does something useful, like build a few eggs/turrets.
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I don't agree with that. That there are 2-3 good players on each team, and the rest of the players are mediocre, is a bit simple, sure. But most of them don't obstruct, and the definition of feeding really is "I can play, but not as well as everyone else on average". How mediocre those players are can determine a lot about the course of the game. A decent mediocre builder can really save the team, despite not having a great kill ratio. Give the three best players in tremulous a team of 6-8 complete newbies, and pit them against a team of mostly random people who have been playing tremulous for 1-2 years with one killwhore, and I think you'll find tremulous isn't always about who is the best.
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Yes, it's about who feeds the most :)