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General => Official Servers => Topic started by: SlackerLinux on July 13, 2010, 03:08:04 am

Title: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: SlackerLinux on July 13, 2010, 03:08:04 am
im not sure why they are disabled way back they used to work then suddenly partial emoticons only worked now it doesnt seem to work at all

is there some bug/issue that makes it have to be disabled if not id love to see it back so vote now to get friend granger and friend mara and even friend boostershrimp back into our names
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: khalsa on July 13, 2010, 03:23:28 am
I disabled them on US1. There was a bug that allowed partials to work, which was recently fixed.

As far as I'm concerned they will remain disabled on US1.
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: A Spork on July 15, 2010, 06:45:13 am
Butbutbutbut I wants to have friend :basilisk: in my name!
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: CreatureofHell on July 15, 2010, 11:03:27 am
No more??? YAY!
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: Aelita on July 15, 2010, 09:26:17 pm
The boostershrimp highly disapproves.
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: Meisseli on July 15, 2010, 10:20:19 pm
Can we have the same treatment for EU1 (and perhaps 1.2 code) too?
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: Kiwi on July 16, 2010, 05:52:25 am
Can we have the same treatment for EU1 (and perhaps 1.2 code) too?
Wait, do you mean disable them on EU1 and remove them from 1.2 code?
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: SlackerLinux on July 16, 2010, 05:59:05 am
Can we have the same treatment for EU1 (and perhaps 1.2 code) too?
Wait, do you mean disable them on EU1 and remove them from 1.2 code?

that would be stupid some people like em and im sure some servers will turn it on because of that even if the official ones wont
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: Aelita on July 16, 2010, 07:34:51 am
If it's already been turned off, why was the feature even added?
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: Asvarox on July 16, 2010, 07:41:22 am
I always thought partial emoticons were a feature. They were kinda handy.

I vote for enabling full emoticons-names-only in names and partials in messages. I'd also like to hear why emoticons in names are disabled in first place.
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: Aelita on July 16, 2010, 10:07:57 am
I think it would be better if it was a client side option to turn them on and off. Some people might like them, others may not. Why remove something because only a fraction of the community dislikes it? Please both sides of the argument and give them a little bit of compromise.

Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: David on July 16, 2010, 11:02:56 am
It makes it hard to ban / kick people.

A name is a name, it's supposed to identify you.  A cutesy little pic doesn't do that.
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: SlackerLinux on July 16, 2010, 11:17:21 am
you should still be able to ban and the console will tell you the name w/out the emoticons but meh its personal preference
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: DraZiLoX on July 16, 2010, 11:28:28 am
/listplayers
1 S (*XXXXXXXX) [bas][official]

/ban 1 1d decon
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: CreatureofHell on July 16, 2010, 12:06:50 pm
The main problem I have with emoticons in names is that they look utterly stupid in the console.
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: DraZiLoX on July 16, 2010, 12:58:10 pm
You can use them in chat too. Why not in names then?
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: Lava_Croft on July 16, 2010, 04:06:38 pm
You can use them in chat too. Why not in names then?

You must be new to the internet. If you let people use emoticons in their names, they will surely start using emoticon-only names, which is stupid.
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: DraZiLoX on July 16, 2010, 05:37:03 pm
Oh that cant be denied in any way, im sorry your majesty.

eDIT: Oh, and when they were allowed, many people didnt use them only.
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: mooseberry on July 17, 2010, 03:52:06 am
I think it's fine. If you really don't know how to ban someone who has icons in their name David, PM me and I'll tell you how.
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: Teapot on July 17, 2010, 03:58:48 am
I think it would be better if it was a client side option to turn them on and off.
There is an option. I believe it is cg_emoticons.
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: David on July 17, 2010, 08:53:59 am
I know how to ban someone, it's just when they have a saw in the side of the RC an extra second to double check it's not going to hit someone else and is going to hit the right person is the difference between a destroyed game or not.

When everyone has textual names I can generally spot a 4-5 char string that will hit the person I want, emotes fuck that.


What I really want is an option so everywhere where there is a name it automatically adds the slot number.
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: Teapot on July 17, 2010, 06:09:41 pm
What I really want is an option so everywhere where there is a name it automatically adds the slot number.
+1
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: Meisseli on July 17, 2010, 08:06:26 pm
It's like the old times, having those UnnamedPlayers and number only names. They were banned just to make kicking/banning fast possible, without having to resort to listplayers.

With listplayers and a high amount of players it will really take time to find the correct nick from the list.

As said, a nick is a cool thing invented to identify you from the others. Don't you want to be cool and have a nick? Don't you want to be remembered as the famous Meisseli instead of  :hive: :reactor: :repeater: :granger: :granger: :egg: :defcomp:?
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: Circle on July 18, 2010, 03:30:12 am
Eyecandy is sexy and part of the overall experience. Why not allow emoticons in the name, but leave it as secondary in that it isn't part of the name. Think of having a space name -> that is disallowed. so you can also limit the use of the emoticon. If you are seriously going to nerf it, then time was wasted implementing it, imo.
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: ziplocpeople on July 18, 2010, 06:07:49 am
A name is a name, it's supposed to identify you.  A cutesy little pic doesn't do that.
A cutesy little picture of a medistation could be used to identify me. Sorry, I just had to argue for the sake of arguing =p pay no attention to me.
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: your face on July 18, 2010, 05:00:55 pm
I WANT A GOOD LOOKING HOVEL IN MY NAME
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: SlackerLinux on July 19, 2010, 12:31:15 am
looks like its split down the middle like the unlagged issue

1/2 the community likes it and wants it on the other 1/2 doesn't like it

why not make the emoticons not add to the 3 letter rule in game code shouldnt be that hard and will fix what david doesn't like about it hell for shits and giggles we all should change to unnamedplayer#(even worse then emoticons)
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: ziplocpeople on July 19, 2010, 09:35:21 pm
I WANT A GOOD LOOKING HOVEL IN MY NAME
well, it's good that they have a hovel emote.
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: A Spork on July 19, 2010, 11:36:35 pm
/me does not approve of the removal of short form emotes in chat
>:(
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: Aelita on July 25, 2010, 01:46:00 pm
looks like its split down the middle like the unlagged issue

1/2 the community likes it and wants it on the other 1/2 doesn't like it

why not make the emoticons not add to the 3 letter rule in game code shouldnt be that hard and will fix what david doesn't like about it hell for shits and giggles we all should change to unnamedplayer#(even worse then emoticons)

It's like the old times, having those UnnamedPlayers and number only names. They were banned just to make kicking/banning fast possible, without having to resort to listplayers.

With listplayers and a high amount of players it will really take time to find the correct nick from the list.

As said, a nick is a cool thing invented to identify you from the others. Don't you want to be cool and have a nick? Don't you want to be remembered as the famous Meisseli instead of  :hive: :reactor: :repeater: :granger: :granger: :egg: :defcomp:?

Options:
1. Make emoticon only names invalid
2. Admins can view the player id when they run their cursor over the player, instead of just their name?
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: Collective on August 25, 2010, 10:56:41 am
I wager that the real reason emotion icons are disabled is so that TremStats names do not look retarded.

The argument "so players can easily be actioned against" is void because I could easily recreate the same issue through other means such as making my name "lAk" and then trolling the server, players would have to use my slot number because my entire name is a part of the name "Lakitu7" meaning there would be multiple matches, and people would not notice the similarities between "lAk" and "Lakitu7" because of the colour and casing.

If players require at least three characters together in their name excluding an emotion icon, they can still be actioned against through either partial name or slot number.
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: David on August 25, 2010, 11:31:07 am
Adding emotes to tremstats would be trivial, they're already there for build messages, adding for chat and names wouldn't be hard.
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: khalsa on August 26, 2010, 11:33:57 pm
I disabled them on US1. There was a bug that allowed partials to work, which was recently fixed.

As far as I'm concerned they will remain disabled on US1.


This is the real reason. They were annoying.
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: Lecavalier on August 27, 2010, 03:22:31 am
And another thing, can you please make it so that capital "i" doesn't look exactly like a lower case "l"? I've noticed a few people impersonating others by doing that to make their names look exactly (and I mean exactly) like somebody else's name, even admins. It's not really that big of a big deal, I just thought I'd bring it to light. ;)
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: Silver on August 27, 2010, 04:43:50 am
And another thing, can you please make it so that capital "i" doesn't look exactly like a lower case "l"? I've noticed a few people impersonating others by doing that to make their names look exactly (and I mean exactly) like somebody else's name, even admins. It's not really that big of a big deal, I just thought I'd bring it to light. ;)

Thats a problem with the default font, most games have that issue as most game used fonts have that character design.  I would love to see that fixed as well but I was under the impression you can change your in game font yourself without making your client impure.  Though I'm not positive.  I swear some servers have different fonts just like huds have different sizes of font.

Also I agree that emoticons in names is just retarded and annoying.
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: F50 on August 27, 2010, 06:53:08 am
And another thing, can you please make it so that capital "i" doesn't look exactly like a lower case "l"? I've noticed a few people impersonating others by doing that to make their names look exactly (and I mean exactly) like somebody else's name, even admins. It's not really that big of a big deal, I just thought I'd bring it to light. ;)

Very true. For a while Iabz was called (got himself to be called?) Labz due to the fact you could only tell the difference in the console, in which you can see the difference.

And yes, I also believe emoticons are annoying in names.
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: superspirality on August 27, 2010, 08:49:24 pm
And yes, I also believe emoticons are annoying in names.
dragoon[dragoon] disagrees. :D
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: SlackerLinux on August 28, 2010, 12:21:55 am
same with [granger]://Slacker
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: mooseberry on August 30, 2010, 12:03:00 am
Same with [gren][gren][gren][gren][gren]
Title: Re: POLL: Enable emoticons in names
Post by: A Spork on September 11, 2010, 03:43:31 am
Spork.^Pk[bas] agrees