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Title: Trem guide - You decide!
Post by: Conzul on July 26, 2010, 03:09:12 pm
Some of you have heard about this video guide I'm doing for the dretch. It was inspired by my hatred toward feeding teammates and nOObs who just head into the fray repetitively and die cus they have no idea how to play dretch. I have all of my footage collected, when just the other day I get a new GFX card and mobo. Now, I can actually turn the graphics up to max while maintaining 90FPS under load (maxed anisotropic filter, HD resolution, anti-aliasing, the gamut). Trem looks like a whole new game.

    On the one hand, (and my preference) I just want to use the material I have. But it looks nothing like tremulous should, so that wouldn't attract a load of ppl. On the other hand, the basics would get out there sooner and noobs would maybe stop feeding so much. But I'll defer to you.

Do you want an HD guide? (I'll have to recapture footage and it'll be released later)
Or do you want the guide out there sooner? (Easier, sloppier)

   Voting closes in 48hrs from posting. I'll go with what the numbers choose.
Title: Re: Trem guide - You decide!
Post by: Plague Bringer on July 26, 2010, 04:34:47 pm
Post the one  you've got now and then upload the better version in a week or whenever you get it done.
Title: Re: Trem guide - You decide!
Post by: Conzul on July 26, 2010, 05:05:52 pm
Post the one  you've got now and then upload the better version in a week or whenever you get it done.

No it's really, really crappy. That's the point. I might post it as a scrapped footage video once I see what I can recover. I can't believe that I was playing with those settings.
Title: Re: Trem guide - You decide!
Post by: mooseberry on July 26, 2010, 07:46:30 pm
Post the one  you've got now and then upload the better version in a week or whenever you get it done.

No it's really, really crappy. That's the point. I might post it as a scrapped footage video once I see what I can recover. I can't believe that I was playing with those settings.

Well you know, just spec someone doing all the stuff for you (you if you have a second computer) and you can get 90fps on highest settings with your old hardware. Not that it matters any more I guess...
Title: Re: Trem guide - You decide!
Post by: UniqPhoeniX on July 27, 2010, 06:58:41 am
Well you know, just spec someone doing all the stuff for you (you if you have a second computer) and you can get 90fps on highest settings with your old hardware. Not that it matters any more I guess...
What. He would have had the same fps if using the same computer, no matter which team he is in. Though he could have created demos and recorded videos from those at any fps. Don't remember how to do that tho.
Title: Re: Trem guide - You decide!
Post by: mooseberry on July 27, 2010, 08:12:21 am
Well you know, just spec someone doing all the stuff for you (you if you have a second computer) and you can get 90fps on highest settings with your old hardware. Not that it matters any more I guess...
What. He would have had the same fps if using the same computer, no matter which team he is in. Though he could have created demos and recorded videos from those at any fps. Don't remember how to do that tho.

 ??? That's basically exactly what I said.
Title: Re: Trem guide - You decide!
Post by: UniqPhoeniX on July 27, 2010, 12:24:47 pm
No it isn't :( You don't need a second computer for anything, you don't need to spec another player. You just do the things you want in the final video, but first only record a demo, and THEN play back the demo with highest settings and record video from that (some cvar needs to be set too IIRC). Only the resulting video file will be at full framerate AND highest quality.
Title: Re: Trem guide - You decide!
Post by: Asvarox on July 27, 2010, 12:58:28 pm
it's /video to start making avi and /stopvideo to stop. Note that you can only use these commands when playing back demo. There is a cvar to set how much fps said avi should have, but I believe it's set to 24-25 by default, so I doubt anyone would want to change it.
Title: Re: Trem guide - You decide!
Post by: Saliva on July 27, 2010, 01:36:59 pm
Most who would benefit from this will never watch your guide. Most people who are horrible with dretch are also illiterate and barely sentient. Still good thought.
Title: Re: Trem guide - You decide!
Post by: Pazuzu on July 28, 2010, 12:48:29 am
No it isn't :( You don't need a second computer for anything, you don't need to spec another player. You just do the things you want in the final video, but first only record a demo, and THEN play back the demo with highest settings and record video from that (some cvar needs to be set too IIRC). Only the resulting video file will be at full framerate AND highest quality.
This.
Of course, if the demo runs for too long, you'll need a lot of disk space for the AVI that comes out of it. On the other hand, for old hardware, you can (like I have) record the demo with a lower resolution than the render- smooth, but low-quality 640x480 for the demo, and 1080i HD with all the digital bling for the final cut.
Title: Re: Trem guide - You decide!
Post by: Conzul on July 28, 2010, 02:13:19 am
Most who would benefit from this will never watch your guide. Most people who are horrible with dretch are also illiterate and barely sentient. Still good thought.

Believe me, I intend to use many, small words. You won't need to read anything, I'm going to personally narrate it. Because I know exactly what you're talking about.

@Pazuzu Yeah, a 5 minute /video takes up almost 2GB on my HD. No matter. I then use AVS4YOU to convert it into a proper avi, which is waaaay smaller than the original, and has improved lighting.

Can anyone recommend a good tool for easily selecting strips of an avi to extract into individual clips? Plan A 4 me is just to import them all into WMM and cut the source clip again and again till I have the smaller clips I need...
Title: Re: Trem guide - You decide!
Post by: Venkman on July 28, 2010, 08:43:48 am
Most who would benefit from this will never watch your guide. Most people who are horrible with dretch are also illiterate and barely sentient. Still good thought.

My hero.

But, yeah, I hope you release what you have now. You could still work on an HD guide. I think I know what you mean when you say it looks horrible, but my second favorite alien is Dretch and I'd just like to hear what you had to say on the subject.
Title: Re: Trem guide - You decide!
Post by: superspirality on July 28, 2010, 12:24:16 pm
I'd rather wait for an awesome version. :)
Go Conzul!
Title: Re: Trem guide - You decide!
Post by: Conzul on July 30, 2010, 01:51:01 am
Voting closed. I will switch to the HD guide. Plz allow 2-3 Weeks.
Title: Re: Trem guide - You decide!
Post by: ziplocpeople on July 30, 2010, 02:38:57 am
It was inspired by my hatred toward feeding teammates and nOObs who just head into the fray repetitively and die cus they have no idea how to play dretch.
You hate me now?
Title: Re: Trem guide - You decide!
Post by: Conzul on August 06, 2010, 04:26:17 am
Good a place as any. The rough cut is complete. Now I'm moving from the Prototype to the final cut.

Content Generation/Recording:   [*******] 100%

Narration/Tutorializing:              [***          ] 30%

Editing/Compositing/Finalizing:  [***     ] 50%

Updated Friday, August 13th.
Title: Re: Trem guide - You decide!
Post by: Crava_Loft on August 07, 2010, 02:10:59 am
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Title: Re: Trem guide - You decide!
Post by: the dragoonz on August 14, 2010, 06:17:07 pm
Post the one  you've got now and then upload the better version in a week or whenever you get it done.
Agreed, even though I just started playing, I'd like to see the original first. If it's recognisable I don't care so much.
Title: Re: Trem guide - You decide!
Post by: Conzul on August 14, 2010, 09:30:11 pm
I'd like you to know, this isn't a comprehensive, secrets exposed guide. It's just the basics, for someone who hasn't played 10 hours yet. If that's you or a friend, direct yourselves to the guide. The guide itself is complete, I just have to narrate and post it (1-2 more days). I haven't told half of what I know about dretching, I might do a follow-up tactics addendum. But once I post this, I'm going to move on to the basilisk guide.
Much more arcane :P

Edit: Oh, and it'll only be 720p. Still I took care that it's clearly visible/good quality.
Title: Re: Trem guide - You decide!
Post by: CreatureofHell on August 14, 2010, 11:05:32 pm
What secrets?  ???
Title: Re: Trem guide - You decide!
Post by: Conzul on August 15, 2010, 05:42:07 pm
What secrets?  ???
Exactly.
Title: Re: Trem guide - You decide!
Post by: CreatureofHell on August 16, 2010, 10:18:29 am
What secrets?  ???
Exactly.
:D