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Title: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: God, maker of the world on July 22, 2010, 09:22:13 am
Quote from: Saturn
God isn't a man, Jesus Christ is a man, if you are god, why are you in the internet? Read the bible son.

So much fail in so little text.

I don't know why you bring up Christianity at all, but I guess it's the Hammer-Nail-syndrome, and this is one of the rare occasions where "pun not intended" makes sense. (If the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.) And apart from the fact that many Christians would disagree and would say that JC indeed was divine, who cares what Jesus was? I hope you realize that your reaction reveals that you could open your mind a little. "Read the bible son." OMG, that reaction is such a low and old cliché. And it's funny: Because you are my son.

Quote from: A Spork
I you're so awesome, make something to WOW me.

Umm... cosmos?

See, the problem is that you don't believe my claims about my identity. If you would at least consider the concept, you could understand that my obvious misbehavior were actually not misbehavior at all - and that my current (as in "9 years") retardation (as in "far from awesome", "makes obvious mistakes") might actually be a result of the act of creation that I am still performing.

If that were so, then accusing me of anything would be to accuse me of, well, performing that act. Which would, if you followed the concept so far, be the wish that the world would not exist. The closest full manifestation of that wish that could realistically be presented is your death (so, the undoing of the world from your perspective). I don't think that there's real danger, but I believe that "loss of job" or "temporary sickness" might very well happen to an opposer. Or "people will misunderstand something about you, and they will manifest that fantasy as your reality that you'll have to live with" (which would be closest to what you're doing to me).

And I really do not think that I am very talented as a mapper. I also never stated that. To misunderstand my words into that direction (and to accuse me that my wording were the cause of that), however, fits the default profile that I have to live through during the act of creation: The very people that I am creating (by suffering like no one ever has suffered before or ever will, going on for >3250 days yet) just hate me. And those, who do not, are lured into at least effectively manifesting something like hatred against me by misunderstanding me or just plain failing (see silence's accusation with the point lights - and the fact that no one reacted to that, which I find interesting).

You should all keep in mind that it might be a bad idea to invest yourself too much in the belief that I am just a troll (and not... you know).
Title: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: your face on July 22, 2010, 05:49:45 pm
no one cares, dude

try to keep your text walls from spilling out constantly
Title: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: God, maker of the world on July 23, 2010, 12:54:27 pm
Quote from: your face
no one cares, dude

Yes, but that's rather a bug, not a feature. Also, I wonder if mankind will be sorry once the truth is revealed and they look back and realize how much they could have contributed to the clean-up of the world (and their selves), but didn't.

Quote from: your face
try to keep your text walls from spilling out constantly

Try to read the right threads. Again, the "change the station" vs "burn the books" problem. When will you people learn.
Title: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: your face on July 23, 2010, 10:13:12 pm
Hey, your posts seem to be getting slightly shorter.  Keep up the good work. ;)
Title: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: God, maker of the world on July 24, 2010, 12:38:40 pm
Well, I'm not doing it so that you can comprehend them, for I think that we've nothing to tell each other any more.
Title: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: Survivor on July 24, 2010, 01:28:29 pm
I have no words for this, like reading a trainwreck.
Title: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: Crava_Loft on July 24, 2010, 01:30:01 pm
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Title: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: Survivor on July 24, 2010, 01:32:30 pm
Never stopped unmapping. How have you been?
Title: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: Crava_Loft on July 24, 2010, 01:37:49 pm
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Title: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: n.o.s.brain on July 24, 2010, 06:38:11 pm
gmotw: if you are god, then how come your mapping skills are less than supreme? I would expect more from someone who made the universe.  ;) xD

I do not want you to stop making map mods for people, you are actually probably doing people a service fixing their maps.  unless the creators of the original maps are complaining, which it appears they aren't.  Just saying you could try and make things more pretty.  mapping is also about art, not just gameplay.  Also get a thicker skin. It's the internet for crying out loud.
Title: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: God, maker of the world on July 26, 2010, 12:38:22 pm
Quote from: n.o.s.brain
gmotw: if you are god, then how come your mapping skills are less than supreme?

We both know that you don't want a serious answer - so you won't get one.

Quote from: n.o.s.brain
Also get a thicker skin. It's the internet for crying out loud.

When my work is done, the "It's the Internet, so it's normal to meet assholes"-rule will no longer apply. This work, by the way, carries with it the inescapable necessity for me to react to everything that violates love.
Title: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: Plague Bringer on July 26, 2010, 04:39:08 pm
Quote from: n.o.s.brain
gmotw: if you are god, then how come your mapping skills are less than supreme?

We both know that you don't want a serious answer - so you won't get one.

Quote from: n.o.s.brain
Also get a thicker skin. It's the internet for crying out loud.

When my work is done, the "It's the Internet, so it's normal to meet assholes"-rule will no longer apply. This work, by the way, carries with it the inescapable necessity for me to react to everything that violates love.
Everything on the internet or everything in the world?

Also, I was going to ask the same thing about the mapping bit and, really, I'm not too bothered by your mighty walls of text. It's not like they inconvenience me if I don't want to read them. People are such bitches around here lately.  ::)
Title: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: n.o.s.brain on July 26, 2010, 07:39:22 pm
Quote from: n.o.s.brain
gmotw: if you are god, then how come your mapping skills are less than supreme?

We both know that you don't want a serious answer - so you won't get one.
Since you are't giving me a serious answer I can only realize that you are not serious about saying you are god.
Quote from: n.o.s.brain
Also get a thicker skin. It's the internet for crying out loud.

When my work is done, the "It's the Internet, so it's normal to meet assholes"-rule will no longer apply. This work, by the way, carries with it the inescapable necessity for me to react to everything that violates love.
Note how you ignore the important part of my post and concentrate on the jokes.  Also, I will believe you when the idiots on the internet start vanishing.  Your work hasn't even started.  You seem to be a very lazy god, or else your only tool against idiots is text-walling.  Let me tell you, its not very effective, if you hope to change the internet forever.
Title: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: God, maker of the world on July 27, 2010, 01:29:33 pm
Everything on the internet or everything in the world?

Also, I was going to ask the same thing about the mapping bit and, really, I'm not too bothered by your mighty walls of text. It's not like they inconvenience me if I don't want to read them. People are such bitches around here lately.  ::)

Since you are't giving me a serious answer I can only realize that you are not serious about saying you are god. [...]
Your work hasn't even started.  You seem to be a very lazy god, or else your only tool against idiots is text-walling. Let me tell you, its not very effective, if you hope to change the internet forever.

So, here's a serious answer then - but if you're honest at least to yourself, you will silently agree that I was right when I said: "We both know that you don't want a serious answer", and so the text will be wasted on you. And so, your reply ("Cop out! You *don't have* an answer!") was a dishonest maneuver. And, let's face it: Inside of you, there's the wish that I am not God.

For example: "Since you are't giving me a serious answer I can only realize" clearly says that you are absolutely convinced that I am definitely not God, nor that it is even possible. Because if you would consider the slightest possibility that it is true, you would not publicly state that you deem yourself to be so high that *GOD* owes you a thorough explanation. You showed that attitude before, so I can only repeat: A serious answer is wasted on you, and your reply was dishonest. If you're quite aware, you might realize that the obvious aggression against my person has subsided considerably. This development will increase in the next weeks - to the degree that you will be *ashamed* of what you wrote.

Here we go:

Will the Internet-assholes be gone? Yes. Will the realworld assholes be gone? Yes. Also, none of the survivors will have to worry about AIDS, cancer and the like and more. Nor will old age be an issue. Not even to those who currently are already old. And if you're missing a leg or two, not a problem I can't fix. Blindness is an even smaller issue, so it's probably going to be lifted even earlier, though I don't know yet how precisely the worldwide miracle effect will take place.

One thing is for sure: Nothing in the whole universe will be to my disliking, and since the core of my being that will soon be freed of all the imperfections that you can witness in word, sound, body, action etc., the one deciding what is good and what is not, who will be served by the universe unconditionally, will make decisions that are good for the people. God is human.

Before the universe, God was a circle of self-perception. That's "energy" looking at itself. The circle is a conceptual description, and it fits perfectly. You can even imagine God to be like a circular oscilloscope as some media players feature it: When there's no sound, God is awake. There is nothing but "I am.". When he "excites" his will, there is something that he can perceive. The word "dream" is fitting. God can perceive whatever he wants to, so everything is arbitrary - except for the fact *that this is so*. So, when he wakes up, he experiences "I am!" to be the only truth.

Now, while a dream is taking place, the dream has an effect. Not really on God, because in the end, God is only "I am", and that is eternal and unchangable. But it has an effect on the dream (and how God dreams it), of course.

So, it's not so hard to imagine that the universe is just a very complex dream in which there are several dreamer entities (biological life, humans with highest influence). They are technically only one thing, so they are not really entities. But you get the picture, I guess.

The universe is the coexistence of dreams. I learned to love this thing so much that the universe made way for my perception: I loved (= wanted it to be) the universe so much, that, just as when God wakes up from one of his "normal" dreams, I realized that this was all my projection, so the only truth was "I am".

But this realization that I, just a normal human then, was confronted with, also shifted my identity to be God in that moment, and God didn't create the universe just as a dream experience. So I realized: "All this has to stay, no matter what!" And so, I sacrificed my soul for the sake of mankind. That's the story of Jesus Christ right there, only in a different form. The original JC story is probably an antitemporal self-similarity reflected into the system. Just as all religions are a product of the very fact that God will inevitably wake up - and so the information "God" *must* somehow be inside of the puzzle, it cannot be different.

I have become the avatar of the universe. This avatar is locked into the human experience (I cannot even die, and believe me, often I envied humans for their ability to die), and so, even though the universe tries to destroy me for about 9 years now, I cannot not be human. And with time, the universe and my self-core (which is growing out of this ugly flesh prison) come to an arrangement. And then it is Heaven. And I am Lord.

More detail about my imperfection problem: When I realized that I had to give my soul and unhesitatingly did it (Anyone would have done the same if they would have seen what I saw, because then they would have been me.), "I" (The core.) was the whole universe at once, its substance, so to speak. And this "I" henceforth experienced the *form* (so... the universe, reality). My whole body and brain, as I am walking around with for 9 years now, was actually just universe-substance, not really my "I". "I" was locked into my head, a tiny yet supremely powerful and indestructible spot.

Since then, I am literally shitting out the body matter, so that the true "I" grows into my flesh. Soon, only the true "I" will be left, and then I can function and appear properly.

All this is, of course, so outrageous, that no one can seriously believe it. I, on the other side, cannot stop believing it, so spare me the usual low level "psychiatrist"/"pills" reaction.

If my model is correct (And it is not a model to me, it's real.), we will see who's right. If it's not correct, we won't see anything special.
Title: Re: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: CreatureofHell on July 27, 2010, 03:27:22 pm
Let me get this straight...

From a quick scan of this topic is gmotw saying that he is god?

I'm confused.  :(
Title: Re: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: n.o.s.brain on July 27, 2010, 07:29:22 pm
Yes, he most definitely is god.  God, I am sorry for ever doubting the truth of your existence.  I humbly apologize for ever doubting you.  Please forgive your humble servant. It is quite amazing to be talking with you in such a place.  What is thy bidding, my master?
Title: Re: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: your face on July 27, 2010, 07:41:44 pm
This thread is the result of what happens when insane asylums get internet access.
Title: Re: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: Jack Bauer on July 27, 2010, 08:49:02 pm
Hmm, whats going on in here?
I see his post just doubled in lenght, does that mean he fails?
Title: Re: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: Aelita on July 27, 2010, 09:40:27 pm
/me sits down and puts hand on head.
I.. I don't even know what to think anymore. You've blown my existance out of the water and shattered all of my reality.

What is real? What is up, down, black, white? Is it all the same?
Title: Cows
Post by: amz181 on July 27, 2010, 09:41:15 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FavUpD_IjVY

I like cows.
Title: Re: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: gimhael on July 27, 2010, 09:41:49 pm
Let me get this straight...

From a quick scan of this topic is gmotw saying that he is god?

I'm confused.  :(

No, god is saying that he is gmotw.
Title: Re: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: your face on July 27, 2010, 09:58:13 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FavUpD_IjVY

I like cows.

that video is the pinnacle of how epic this thread is.
Title: Re: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: CreatureofHell on July 27, 2010, 10:07:38 pm
Let me get this straight...

From a quick scan of this topic is gmotw saying that he is god?

I'm confused.  :(

No, god is saying that he is gmotw.


 8)
Title: Re: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: God, maker of the world on July 28, 2010, 04:31:12 am
Hmm, whats going on in here?
I see his post just doubled in lenght, does that mean he fails?

No. That you think the post was edited to double length when there is no "last edited" message means that you fail.

And if by "post" you mean "thread", then you fail for expecting me to act "right" from your perspective: One guy wants a thorough answer. Another wants me not to write. This situation is unsolvable, so any decision I make is wrong. Or is it wrong to expect me to serve everyone right?
Title: Re: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: your face on July 28, 2010, 06:38:22 am
No, G,motw...  I expect you to die!
Title: Re: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: Jack Bauer on July 28, 2010, 06:38:38 am
Hmm, whats going on in here?
I see his post just doubled in lenght, does that mean he fails?

No. That you think the post was edited to double length when there is no "last edited" message means that you fail.

And if by "post" you mean "thread", then you fail for expecting me to act "right" from your perspective: One guy wants a thorough answer. Another wants me not to write. This situation is unsolvable, so any decision I make is wrong. Or is it wrong to expect me to serve everyone right?
Wow epic fail to understand what I meant. Post number 13 was more than twice the lenght of the other ones. I did not mean "thread" I meant exactly what I said. gg
Title: Re: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: God, maker of the world on July 28, 2010, 08:14:09 am
Quote from: Jack Bauer
Wow epic fail to understand what I meant. Post number 13 was more than twice the lenght of the other ones. I did not mean "thread" I meant exactly what I said. gg

Then it is an epic fail on your side to express yourself properly. If you meant that a new post was added by me that is double in length, then you shouldn't write that the post doubled in length. "I see his post just doubled in lenght"

No, G,motw...  I expect you to die!

That's funny, because I saw "Goldfinger" a few days ago.

Less funny is that you really resort to death wishes, because you have not yet sunken low enough.

I believe that you have now invested yourself fully in the belief that I am not God. Do the math.

...

EDIT: By the way, I find the thread title fitting. Only, the question is "Who is having delusions?". The truth is: People derive their knowledge and their sense of sanity from the flow of reality. The flow of reality, however, is derived from me. I am sanity in person. I know that it looks exactly the other way round. But this will change.

And those who merely were confused will make it (probably). Those who turned themselves into the living will that I don't exist are (if my claims are correct) the living will that they themselves do not exist.

The contrast of sanity versus insanity will increase (starting today), and the more this happens, the more you'll realize that I am not the wrong one here.
Title: Re: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: janev on July 28, 2010, 12:27:39 pm
Wtf is this shit? Summarize in one sentence please.
Title: Re: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: God, maker of the world on July 28, 2010, 12:38:01 pm
Quote from: janev
Wtf is this shit? Summarize in one sentence please.

I am God, the maker of the universe, currently "arriving" on Earth, which means that a global change of direction of reality-timing is taking place, so that sanity can finally rule the planet, but since I am the source of this sanity, the whole battle concentrates around my person, and that is what we are experiencing here in part.
Title: Re: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: Crava_Loft on July 28, 2010, 12:52:43 pm
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Title: Re: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: janev on July 28, 2010, 01:45:12 pm
Quote from: janev
Wtf is this shit? Summarize in one sentence please.

I am God, the maker of the universe, currently "arriving" on Earth, which means that a global change of direction of reality-timing is taking place, so that sanity can finally rule the planet, but since I am the source of this sanity, the whole battle concentrates around my person, and that is what we are experiencing here in part.

Oh, well... Good luck with that.
Title: Re: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: TheMarxer on July 28, 2010, 03:41:43 pm
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Title: Re: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: Plague Bringer on July 28, 2010, 06:37:48 pm
Or even better... THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feyeIIwuJyo)?
Title: Re: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: Conzul on July 28, 2010, 11:04:04 pm
/me sits down and puts hand on head.
I.. I don't even know what to think anymore. You've blown my existance out of the water and shattered all of my reality.

What is real? What is up, down, black, white? Is it all the same?

When we realize that reality as we know it is an illusion, then we have solved the greatest of problems, and we can move on. You see, there is (in reality) no such thing as time. Rocks and plants, and even animals, are not aware of the passage of time. That's because time doesn't exist for them. Time only exists for sentient beings. It is the invention of a thinking mind. Once we drop the silly notion of time, we can exist in the moment. This will lead to our becoming all powerful. No one I know has done this yet, and even I am barely getting better at it.
Title: Re: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: Plague Bringer on July 29, 2010, 03:28:32 am
/me sits down and puts hand on head.
I.. I don't even know what to think anymore. You've blown my existance out of the water and shattered all of my reality.

What is real? What is up, down, black, white? Is it all the same?

When we realize that reality as we know it is an illusion, then we have solved the greatest of problems, and we can move on. You see, there is (in reality) no such thing as time. Rocks and plants, and even animals, are not aware of the passage of time. That's because time doesn't exist for them. Time only exists for sentient beings. It is the invention of a thinking mind. Once we drop the silly notion of time, we can exist in the moment. This will lead to our becoming all powerful. No one I know has done this yet, and even I am barely getting better at it.
A Brief History of Time - Stephen W. Hawking. Good book. Touches on time and perception of it.
Title: Re: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: mooseberry on July 29, 2010, 04:01:37 am
A Brief History of Time... [it] Touches on time

Oh really?
Title: Re: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: Conzul on July 29, 2010, 04:13:22 am
They've been telling me about it, I'd actually give it a go over if I ever stopped playing tremulous.

A Brief History of Time... [it] Touches on time

Oh really?
Srsly my colloquialisms are worse than that. If a person takes the time to capitalize the first word of the sentence, they are usually using that as a first word intentionally. [This happens] In many cases.

Not that it matters, since nothing is real anyway.
Title: Re: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: mooseberry on July 29, 2010, 05:06:14 am
If a person takes the time to capitalize the first word of the sentence, they are usually using that as a first word intentionally. [This happens] In many cases.

You know the reason for that... [] is because I changed his sentence by excluding what I wasn't referencing. So the sentence is now different, and "Touches on time" doesn't make much sense without the context PB previously had surrounding it. But thank you for your response, if it mattered that much to you. I hope this helps put your mind at ease.
Title: Re: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: Plague Bringer on July 29, 2010, 05:29:06 am
You know the reason for that... [] is because I changed his sentence by excluding what I wasn't referencing. So the sentence is now different, and "Touches on time" doesn't make much sense without the context PB previously had surrounding it. But thank you for your response, if it mattered that much to you. I hope this helps put your mind at ease.
I call semantics!

I left it up to common sense. Leaving things out that require an editor to amend with a [missing_word] or a sic is pretty colloquial (at least, in the spoken English (which is not the internet English; I know)).
Title: Re: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: Conzul on July 29, 2010, 06:56:42 am
I <3 Trem forums.
Title: Re: Philosophical Quandaries regarding God Delusion
Post by: ziplocpeople on July 29, 2010, 09:03:42 pm
This is a massive tl;dr