Tremulous Forum
General => Official Servers => Topic started by: Superpie on October 11, 2010, 01:12:53 am
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You can't piss me off, I bring no emotion into administration.
If you don't say anything when I talk to you, I assume you don't speak English.
On Banning
No permanent bans unless you put in a request for a subnet ban. I think people will wait on average five days without getting too mad if they did something appropriately stupid. People evade long bans, so by this logic the longer you ban someone the sooner they will come back.
I'm biased toward regulars, as people who I don't think will come back tend to get longer bans from me. Don't think I'm a softie, you still get banned if you fuck around.
Amendment I Don't touch my bans. In some cases I might also apply the same ban to whoever is tampering with it.
On Kicking
If you come back from a kick saying anything like "OMG WHY U KIK ME", I will kick you again. Maybe another five minutes will be enough time for you to think about why you got kicked.
Kicking is usually unnecessary, I find that a mute will infuriate someone more than a kick will.
Yeah, I kicked you. Take a few minutes, masturbate, come back with a clear head. Play.
On Muting
If I mute you, and you evade it, i kick you. If you're an admin and you think you're hot shit and unmute yourself, I consider that evasion and still kick you.
If you flame people, I don't care. If you spam, no matter what you're saying, I do. If you're fighting in public chat, I will tell you to shut up -- if you don't, you get muted.
If someone wants you to stop using a bind, I suggest you stop using it before I notice.
When someone leaves the game because they can't speak, that increases the odds that I will punish them a little harder in the future.
Call a bunch of votes that keep failing? You'll get muted.
On Putteam
This is not used enough. If you see that the teams are drastically uneven, ask if anyone will move. If you ask specific people they will be more likely to move. If nobody moves, put the player with the skill level most likely to balance the game on the other team. He will bitch about it. Sometimes being the good guy is being the bad guy.
On Denybuild
If he's the only builder on the team, let him go. They need him no matter how much he sucks.
If the team is winning by a large margin, bad building won't hurt them.
If you're feeling generous, coach him through building. Everyone needs to learn sometime. If he doesn't say anything back, use "sign language."
On Spec999
Don't use it. People lose their credits, current equipment, score.
Anything here sound insane?
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not really good guidelines just a few things id like to add
afaik mutes cant be evaded as easy now since reconnecting reapplies the mute(using namelog) and spec999 i found fixes someone trying to glitch in a few maps and its quite funny when they come back from trying to glitch figure out their in spec then abuse/threaten you
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You shouldn't use admin against other admins who haven't really done anything wrong.
As seen in this condump, you essentially kicked me (another admin) for being called a cocksucker...
]\unmute toma
unmute: Toma- has been unmuted by Over the Sky
+QRX' was lasgunned by Toma-
Over the Sky joined the aliens
[H] Toma-: yes
Over the Sky was gunned down by Dinner Menu
iam30fpsatnetbook was gunned down by a turret
Egg built by shiqniqr, replacing Acid Tube
[A] (GT-Enzo Ferrari) (Alien Base): booster up yet?
[A] (shiqniqr) (Alien Base): yes
Over the Sky was mass driven by Pirat_(UA)
beauletonte was clawed by TEAMMATE GT-Enzo Ferrari's Marauder
Trapper built by shiqniqr, replacing Egg
C.R.A.Z.Y. was clawed by GT-Enzo Ferrari's Marauder
{MAD}<<Master>> should have used a medkit against Gaz's poison
[A] (GT-Enzo Ferrari) (Alien Base): srry
Over the Sky was mass driven by Pirat_(UA)
[A] beauletonte: too many admin cocksucker aliases
Dinner Menu was chomped by +QRX''s Dragoon
[H] Toma-: y u mad bro
[H] Toma-: ?
FLAMES called a vote: Mute player 'Toma-'
[A] GT-Enzo Ferrari: The Ferrari is always the faster car!
[A] GT-Enzo Ferrari: The Ferrari is always the faster car!
Over the Sky was pulse rifled by C.R.A.Z.Y.
[A] GT-Enzo Ferrari: The Ferrari is always the faster car!
Vote failed (0 - 17)
cancelvote: Over the Sky decided that everyone voted No
[A] Over the Sky: He's not doing anything wrong.
{MAD}<<Master>> was bitten by beauletonte
[A] Over the Sky: Stop muting him.
[A] (shiqniqr) (Alien Base): Grenade
[A] (shiqniqr) (Alien Base): Grenade
[H] Toma-: ikr.
[A] Over the Sky: He's not disrupting the game.
Trapper built by shiqniqr
[A] Over the Sky: He's not spamming.
[A] Over the Sky: You're just angry Beu.
[A] GT-Enzo Ferrari: /cough
beauletonte was mass driven by FLAMES
[A] beauletonte: shut up admin aliased cocksucker
Egg built by shiqniqr, replacing Acid Tube
iam30fpsatnetbook was lasgunned by Toma-
AndyDe connected
GT-Karl was bitten by Gaz
Gaz was pulse rifled by C.R.A.Z.Y.
iam30fpsatnetbook was pulse rifled by C.R.A.Z.Y.
[A] Over the Sky: Please don't insult people because they are right.
Dinner Menu was bitten by beauletonte
[H] Toma-: ikr.
Over the Sky was pulse rifled by C.R.A.Z.Y.
C.R.A.Z.Y. should have used a medkit against Gaz's poison
AndyDe entered the game
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AndyDe joined the humans
Acid Tube built by shiqniqr, replacing Acid Tube
[H] Toma-: He's mad
[H] Toma-: :/
Over the Sky was mass driven by Pirat_(UA)
GT-Karl was pounced upon by +QRX''s Dragoon
[A] Over the Sky: I see.
iam30fpsatnetbook was gunned down by Dinner Menu
Spiney was pounced upon by +QRX''s Dragoon
FLAMES was bitten by beauletonte
beauletonte was lasgunned by {MAD}<<Master>>
Trapper built by shiqniqr, replacing Acid Tube
Over the Sky was mass driven by Pirat_(UA)
+QRX' was machinegunned by AndyDe
Pirat_(UA) was clawed by GT-Enzo Ferrari's Marauder
iam30fpsatnetbook was machinegunned by AndyDe
[A] GT-Enzo Ferrari: so toma
[A] GT-Enzo Ferrari: hows your vagina doing?
Acid Tube built by shiqniqr, replacing Acid Tube
Over the Sky was machinegunned by GT-Karl
AndyDe was sniped by beauletonte's Dragoon
[H] Toma-: You're mistaken.
iam30fpsatnetbook was gunned down by Dinner Menu
[H] Toma-: I have no vag.
[A] GT-Enzo Ferrari: oh?
[A] GT-Enzo Ferrari: oh
AndyDe was zapped by +QRX''s Marauder
+QRX' was mass driven by Pirat_(UA)
[A] Over the Sky: That was a pathetic attempt to troll Enzo
mute: Toma- has been muted by superpie
[A] GT-Enzo Ferrari: i coulda sworn
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Gaz was gunned down by Dinner Menu
[A] Over the Sky: Lol?
[A] Over the Sky: What has he done superpie?
Acid Tube built by shiqniqr
iam30fpsatnetbook was mass driven by Pirat_(UA)
GT-Enzo Ferrari was gunned down by Dinner Menu
[A] beauletonte: shut up over the sak
[S] superpie: you joined and unmuted him
[H] FLAMES: there is no attempt tp troll, its do or dont
Spiney was bitten by iam30fpsatnetbook
[A] Over the Sky: True.
Acid Tube built by shiqniqr, replacing Acid Tube
[A] Over the Sky: I was aliased before though.
+QRX' was chaingunned by C.R.A.Z.Y.
iam30fpsatnetbook was mass driven by Pirat_(UA)
[A] Over the Sky: Under a different GUID
Gaz was mass driven by Pirat_(UA)
[A] beauletonte: over the sky, you're fucking pathetic
Over the Sky was mass driven by Pirat_(UA)
Acid Tube built by shiqniqr, replacing Egg
[A] GT-Enzo Ferrari: guys guys
[A] GT-Enzo Ferrari: love not war
[A] GT-Enzo Ferrari: btw
[A] Over the Sky: Shouldn't be too hard to figure out who I was.
[A] GT-Enzo Ferrari: hs3
[A] Over the Sky: I did say BRB
iam30fpsatnetbook was machinegunned by AndyDe
[S] superpie: i have a good mind to kick you for unmuting him without knowing
what hes done
+QRX' was chaingunned by C.R.A.Z.Y.
[A] Over the Sky: Lol?
[A] (+QRX') (Alien Base): no rets
[A] (+QRX') (Alien Base): rush
Acid Tube built by shiqniqr, replacing Acid Tube
GT-Enzo Ferrari was chaingunned by C.R.A.Z.Y.
[A] Over the Sky: Did I not just explain how I knew the situation?
Gaz felt the full force of {MAD}<<Master>>'s lucifer cannon
iam30fpsatnetbook felt the full force of Pirat_(UA)'s lucifer cannon
[A] (shiqniqr) (Alien Base): INCOMING LUCI
Pirat_(UA) irradiated himself
Over the Sky was caught in the fallout of {MAD}<<Master>>'s lucifer cannon
[A] (iam30fpsatnetbook) (Alien Base): eggs
+QRX' was chaingunned by C.R.A.Z.Y.
[S] superpie: yeah, he told you so you joined and unmuted him because hes
your buddy
[A] Over the Sky: Beau was cussing out the humans for camping
Gaz felt the full force of {MAD}<<Master>>'s lucifer cannon
iam30fpsatnetbook was caught in the fallout of
{MAD}<<Master>>'s lucifer cannon
{MAD}<<Master>> should have used a medkit against Gaz's poison
[A] (iam30fpsatnetbook) (Alien Base): eggs
[A] (iam30fpsatnetbook) (Alien Base): eggs
[S] superpie: isnt he? your pal? your friend?
[A] beauletonte: STFU over the sak
[A] (iam30fpsatnetbook) (Alien Base): eggs
[A] (iam30fpsatnetbook) (Alien Base): eggs
[A] Over the Sky: Hardly
[A] (shiqniqr) (Alien Base): we have 3 eggs
Over the Sky renamed to Celestial Rage.^Pk
Booster built by shiqniqr, replacing Barricade
[A] (iam30fpsatnetbook) (Alien Entrance): we need 5
[A] Celestial Rage.^Pk: But
[A] (WoGoMo) (Alien Base): 3 to 5
[A] Celestial Rage.^Pk: I do know the situation.
[A] (GT-Enzo Ferrari) (Alien Base): lol 5 for a team this size?
iam30fpsatnetbook was gunned down by a turret
[A] (GT-Enzo Ferrari) (Alien Base): idk
Gaz was zapped by a tesla generator
[S] superpie: great, now leave him muted
Egg built by shiqniqr, replacing Barricade
[A] (GT-Enzo Ferrari) (Alien Base): seems a bit much
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[A] (WoGoMo) (Alien Base): 3 is ok
[A] (GT-Enzo Ferrari) (Hallway): i think 4 is good
[A] Celestial Rage.^Pk: Sigh.
[A] (shiqniqr) (Alien Base): 4 is plenty
iam30fpsatnetbook was lasgunned by Toma-
[A] (GT-Enzo Ferrari) (Hallway): 3 if we dont feed at all
[A] Celestial Rage.^Pk: No wonder you're banned everywhere
Gaz was lasgunned by GT-Karl
[H] FLAMES: Dont kill [granger] , [granger] is freind
FLAMES was chomped by beauletonte's Dragoon
GT-Karl was clawed by GT-Enzo Ferrari's Marauder
Pirat_(UA) should have used a medkit against Celestial Rage.^Pk's poison
Egg built by shiqniqr, replacing Egg
[H] GT-Karl: >:(
iam30fpsatnetbook was machinegunned by Pirat_(UA)
[A] GT-Enzo Ferrari: yes
[A] GT-Enzo Ferrari: The Ferrari is always the faster car!
Celestial Rage.^Pk was chaingunned by C.R.A.Z.Y.
]/callvote unmute toma
Celestial Rage.^Pk called a vote: Unmute player 'Toma-'
iam30fpsatnetbook was gunned down by a turret
vote: vote already cast
teamvote: no vote in progress
[A] Celestial Rage.^Pk: Heh.
Celestial Rage.^Pk was chaingunned by C.R.A.Z.Y.
GT-Karl was zapped by +QRX''s Marauder
Celestial Rage.^Pk renamed to Solidarity.^Pk
Gaz felt the full force of Pirat_(UA)'s lucifer cannon
Vote failed (2 - 9)
+QRX' felt the full force of Pirat_(UA)'s lucifer cannon
Pirat_(UA) was bitten by Solidarity.^Pk
GT-Karl was bitten by Solidarity.^Pk
Acid Tube built by shiqniqr
beauletonte felt the full force of {MAD}<<Master>>'s lucifer cannon
Toma- was bitten by Gaz
Solidarity.^Pk was machinegunned by GT-Karl
GT-Karl should have used a medkit against Solidarity.^Pk's poison
+QRX' felt the full force of Dinner Menu's lucifer cannon
Gaz was caught in the fallout of Pirat_(UA)'s lucifer cannon
[A] beauletonte: why do these cocksucker admins use aliases, anyway?
Gaz was caught in the fallout of Pirat_(UA)'s lucifer cannon
Pirat_(UA) should have used a medkit against +QRX''s poison
Solidarity.^Pk was gunned down by a turret
C.R.A.Z.Y. was chomped by beauletonte's Dragoon
[A] (shiqniqr) (Alien Base): Grenade
[A] (shiqniqr) (Alien Base): Grenade
Gaz couldn't escape C.R.A.Z.Y.'s grenade
GT-Enzo Ferrari couldn't escape C.R.A.Z.Y.'s grenade
FLAMES couldn't escape TEAMMATE C.R.A.Z.Y.'s grenade
iam30fpsatnetbook was mass driven by AndyDe
+QRX' was machinegunned by GT-Karl
[H] C.R.A.Z.Y.: ?
[A] Solidarity.^Pk: Please don't verbally abuse admins.
[H] C.R.A.Z.Y.: omg
[A] GT-Enzo Ferrari: The Ferrari is always the faster car!
[A] Solidarity.^Pk: It's not a good idea.
[S] superpie: because theyre less likely to get complained about to their
managers
iam30fpsatnetbook was caught in the fallout of Pirat_(UA)'s lucifer cannon
beauletonte was lasgunned by Toma-
[A] beauletonte: yea thats a good point
FLAMES was zapped by GT-Enzo Ferrari's Marauder
Trapper built by shiqniqr
GT-Enzo Ferrari was gunned down by a turret
[A] (WoGoMo) (Alien Base): 2 more
[A] (GT-Enzo Ferrari) (Alien Base): medi smoking
iam30fpsatnetbook was caught in the fallout of Pirat_(UA)'s lucifer cannon
C.R.A.Z.Y. was clawed by Solidarity.^Pk's Marauder
[A] beauletonte: so only the admins who abuse use aliases
[S] superpie: same reason employees you hate dont wear name tags at shops
Gaz was zapped by a tesla generator
[H] FLAMES: Dont kill [granger] , [granger] is freind
[A] beauletonte: the ones with balls and character use their real names
+QRX' felt the full force of {MAD}<<Master>>'s lucifer cannon
{MAD}<<Master>> was bitten by Gaz
iam30fpsatnetbook was chaingunned by C.R.A.Z.Y.
beauletonte felt the full force of Dinner Menu's lucifer cannon
[A] (beauletonte) (Alien Base): nice base BTW
[A] Solidarity.^Pk: beau
[A] (shiqniqr) (Alien Base): thx
+QRX' was zapped by a tesla generator
[A] Solidarity.^Pk: You can think of me as a plain clothed cop
beauletonte was mass driven by GT-Karl
[A] (shiqniqr) (Alien Base): Grenade
[A] (shiqniqr) (Alien Base): Grenade
iam30fpsatnetbook was mass driven by GT-Karl
GT-Karl was bitten by Gaz
GT-Enzo Ferrari felt the full force of Dinner Menu's lucifer cannon
Dinner Menu was bitten by Gaz
Gaz was caught in the fallout of {MAD}<<Master>>'s lucifer cannon
[A] beauletonte: no, i'll think of you as an aliased cocksucker, from now on
GT-Enzo Ferrari was caught in the fallout of {MAD}<<Master>>'s lucifer cannon
Hive built by shiqniqr, replacing Egg
+QRX' felt the full force of {MAD}<<Master>>'s lucifer cannon
Gaz was machinegunned by GT-Karl
[A] Solidarity.^Pk: Lol
{MAD}<<Master>> was bitten by beauletonte
+QRX' felt the full force of Pirat_(UA)'s lucifer cannon
FLAMES couldn't escape TEAMMATE {MAD}<<Master>>'s grenade
GT-Enzo Ferrari was caught in the fallout of Pirat_(UA)'s lucifer cannon
Gaz felt the full force of Pirat_(UA)'s lucifer cannon
[A] Solidarity.^Pk: At least you have witty insults
AndyDe was bitten by beauletonte
GT-Enzo Ferrari was chaingunned by C.R.A.Z.Y.
+QRX' was caught in the fallout of Pirat_(UA)'s lucifer cannon
beauletonte was lasgunned by Toma-
[A] GT-Enzo Ferrari: i get it
GT-Karl was melted by an acid tube
Gaz was caught in the fallout of Pirat_(UA)'s lucifer cannon
[A] GT-Enzo Ferrari: sarcasm
Hive built by shiqniqr, replacing Acid Tube
[A] GT-Enzo Ferrari: yeah
Pirat_(UA) should have used a medkit against iam30fpsatnetbook's poison
iam30fpsatnetbook was machinegunned by Dinner Menu
[A] Solidarity.^Pk: Genius.
[A] (shiqniqr) (Alien Base): Grenade
[A] (shiqniqr) (Alien Base): Grenade
Toma- was clawed by Solidarity.^Pk's Marauder
[A] (shiqniqr) (Alien Base): Grenade
[A] (shiqniqr) (Alien Base): Grenade
[A] GT-Enzo Ferrari: alright... that was kidna uncalled for...
Dinner Menu was hunted down by the swarm
GT-Enzo Ferrari couldn't escape Dinner Menu's grenade
[A] beauletonte: because sarchasm is the highest form of humour, right?
Gaz felt the full force of {MAD}<<Master>>'s lucifer cannon
[A] (WoGoMo) (Alien Base): nice hives
Solidarity.^Pk felt the full force of {MAD}<<Master>>'s lucifer cannon
{MAD}<<Master>> irradiated himself
[A] GT-Enzo Ferrari: guys
[A] GT-Enzo Ferrari: love not war...
+QRX' was lasgunned by Toma-
[S] superpie: yeah shut up
iam30fpsatnetbook was chaingunned by C.R.A.Z.Y.
[H] GT-Karl: ME TO
GT-Enzo Ferrari was lasgunned by Toma-
[A] +QRX': fucking lame humans...
[A] Solidarity.^Pk: If you're trying to sound smart, at least spell
correctly.
[S] superpie: solid shut up
iam30fpsatnetbook was gunned down by a turret
Dinner Menu was mauled by Gaz's Tyrant
Hive built by shiqniqr, replacing Acid Tube
[A] GT-Enzo Ferrari: superpie wins
[A] Solidarity.^Pk: Superpie, I'm not the one
[A] (Gaz) (Alien Base): ande
Toma- should have used a medkit against beauletonte's poison
[S] superpie: you are continuing
[S] superpie: i said shush
[A] GT-Enzo Ferrari: you're both in the wrong
[A] Solidarity.^Pk: Calling people cocksuckers.
iam30fpsatnetbook was caught in the fallout of Pirat_(UA)'s lucifer cannon
C.R.A.Z.Y. was clawed by Solidarity.^Pk's Marauder
[A] (shiqniqr) (Alien Base): Grenade
[A] (shiqniqr) (Alien Base): Grenade
mute: Solidarity.^Pk has been muted by superpie
[A] (shiqniqr) (Alien Base): Grenade
Booster DESTROYED by beauletonte
iam30fpsatnetbook was mass driven by AndyDe
[A] (beauletonte) (Alien Base): booster needs repair
{MAD}<<Master>> should have gotten out of the way of Gaz's Tyrant
[A] (shiqniqr) (Alien Base): wtf
[A] GT-Enzo Ferrari: like cocksucker is an insult
]\unmute solid
unmute: Solidarity.^Pk has been unmuted by Solidarity.^Pk
Solidarity.^Pk was machinegunned by Dinner Menu
[A] (beauletonte) (Alien Base): had to kill it
[A] (shiqniqr) (Alien Base): whyd you do that
[A] (shiqniqr) (Alien Base): oh ok
FLAMES was mauled by Gaz's Tyrant
Stopped demo.
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Dumped console text to superpie.txt.
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I muted you because you were continuing an argument, which your adversary had the presence of mind to stop participating in. You escalated the issue by unmuting yourself, which is evasion, so I kicked you.
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I was content to drop it. He just called me a ''cocksucker'' at every available opportunity. So naturally, you made the logical decision and kicked the person who was not doing anything remotely wrong and was an admin instead of kicking the guy incessantly calling the admin a cocksucker. Pure genius.
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He stopped. You didn't. Please carry on with your life.
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Clearly, he didn't. I wish you'd just exercise better judgment. It is becoming painfully apparent that it is not exactly your forte.
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According to your own log, you carry on the argument for about 26 lines after he stops. Your entire argument contradicts your own facts.
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You're both wrong.
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You're both bullheaded but superpie is a cock sucker. A big one. He also shouldn't have admin.
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Superpie, that read slot like you being grumpy and not thinking logically.
True, cele prolly shouldn't have unmuted himself, although you shouldn't have muted him in the first place.
Actually, that read alot like you are a terrible admin, who apparently can't read.
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I bring no emotion into administration.
I call bullshit on that.
Superpie, I've known you quite a long while. To be completely blunt, you're an emotionally unstable individual who really should not have admin (Okay, fine... That's not blunt, if it were it'd be far more insulting.)
The fact that you made this topic is proof of this, earlier today you muted me. You refused to give a (legitimate) reason as to why I was muted (sorry /ignore is there for a reason, if you don't like me you're welcome to use it.) If you're an admin and you think you're hot shit and unmute yourself, I consider that evasion and still kick you.
Let me get this straight, right now: If you misuse your admin powers I too will punish you. I don't care how long you've been a part of the community or any of that crap, if you abuse I punish. I didn't today simply to avoid future conflict, but if you insist on making a big deal out of this kind of shit (which you whined to me about, then ironically made this forum posting) I won't hesitate to punish you for misbehavior in the future.
I'm not going to lie, I was annoying you (mainly because I hate your guts.) As I've said above there's a command called /ignore for that. Period. I won't put up with your "I'll mute you because I can" attitude. It's very simple, if I see you abuse ANYONE, I will either kick or ban you depending on the severity of the situation. I nearly kicked you today for being a prick, but decided it wasn't worth a long forum posting (oh the irony.) If you mute me without telling me why, expect an "unmute medi; kick superpie Don't abuse" in return(Also, to clarify about the incident earlier today, I did not unmute myself.)
How you ever got admin to begin with is a mystery to me. Abuse is abuse, no matter who you are (I'm looking at you Lava.) This isn't your server, nor is it your playground. There's clearly defined server rules here: http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=12896.0;wap2 I suggest you read them before making your own up.
Also, if anyone wants my condump/screenshots from earlier (him abusing me, or to be fair at least that's the way I saw it) feel free to ask-- I'm too lazy to dig them up now, maybe later.
You're nothing special (you just "roll" incorrectly... that's how you youngsters say things right?,) I feel the same way about other admins. Abusers get punished.
Much much love
The Medistation
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tl;dr Remove his admin, please. Oh, and thank you for reading.
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Wait, wait, muting an admin who has the power to unmute himself... is bad?
Hm, if I had only known this a while ago I could have stood up for the misconduct abusive admins placed on me! I SHOULD HAVE STOOD FOR MY RIGHTS AS A PERSON OF THE TREMULOUS COMMUNITY AND FOR THE FACT THAT I AM AWESOME.
In all frankness, is it that hard to unmute yourself?
Oh, the drama.
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http://stats.tremulous.net/tremstats/us1/player_details.php?player_id=3846
Get the fuck out, spectator.
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kharnov@tremforums ~ $ bullshit-translator
Running...
You can't piss me off, I bring no emotion into administration.
TRANSLATION: I'm frigid and distant, except for when it's convenient for me. Then it's cool to say I'm arrogant, especially when I'm wrong.
If you don't say anything when I talk to you, I assume you don't speak English.
TRANSLATION: If you have a life outside of interacting with me on my own terms, I am going to spite you for that. If you try to talk to me otherwise, I am still going to spite you.
On Banning
TRANSLATION: Getting rid of people I don't like for a long time.
No permanent bans unless you put in a request for a subnet ban. I think people will wait on average five days without getting too mad if they did something appropriately stupid. People evade long bans, so by this logic the longer you ban someone the sooner they will come back.
I'm biased toward regulars, as people who I don't think will come back tend to get longer bans from me. Don't think I'm a softie, you still get banned if you fuck around.
TRANSLATION: Much like most of the old crowd, I'm completely detached from the game I'm supposed to administrate. Thus, as the model of a proper administrator, I must be gruff and intimidating. That'll show them.
On Kicking
TRANSLATION: Getting rid of people I don't like for a few minutes.
If you come back from a kick saying anything like "OMG WHY U KIK ME", I will kick you again. Maybe another five minutes will be enough time for you to think about why you got kicked.
Kicking is usually unnecessary, I find that a mute will infuriate someone more than a kick will.
Yeah, I kicked you. Take a few minutes, masturbate, come back with a clear head. Play.
TRANSLATION: Yeah, I kicked you. I don't even have to explain anything. You'd better not be angry at me when I don't explain myself! In fact, if you have righteous indignation against me, I'll just kick you again! You can't even touch me, because nobody has the balls to call me out on my bullshit.
On Muting
TRANSLATION: My version of /ignore.
If I mute you, and you evade it, i kick you. If you're an admin and you think you're hot shit and unmute yourself, I consider that evasion and still kick you.
If you flame people, I don't care. If you spam, no matter what you're saying, I do. If you're fighting in public chat, I will tell you to shut up -- if you don't, you get muted.
If someone wants you to stop using a bind, I suggest you stop using it before I notice.
When someone leaves the game because they can't speak, that increases the odds that I will punish them a little harder in the future.
Call a bunch of votes that keep failing? You'll get muted.
TRANSLATION: I'm getting back at Medistation in a passive-aggressive manner because, as mentioned before, I don't have to explain myself. Since I've been around for years, that makes me better-equipped to be an administrator, even though I'm rarely on and have no idea what goes on with the day-to-day activities of US Main. I also need to restate the obvious uses of mute, because again, this makes me sound intimidating.
On Putteam
This is not used enough. If you see that the teams are drastically uneven, ask if anyone will move. If you ask specific people they will be more likely to move. If nobody moves, put the player with the skill level most likely to balance the game on the other team. He will bitch about it. Sometimes being the good guy is being the bad guy.
TRANSLATION: I don't use this command as much as I'd like to (that is, not at all), so I'm projecting my desires through the administrative body of US Main.
On Denybuild
If he's the only builder on the team, let him go. They need him no matter how much he sucks.
If the team is winning by a large margin, bad building won't hurt them.
If you're feeling generous, coach him through building. Everyone needs to learn sometime. If he doesn't say anything back, use "sign language."
TRANSLATION: Another command I've never been seen using, probably because I'm too busy talking over spectators with my veteran friends to actually administrate. Why don't you do this for me? Maybe you can all interact with these shitty builders, I don't want to touch them. That'd mean actually talking to the people I'm supposed to administrate.
On Spec999
Don't use it. People lose their credits, current equipment, score.
TRANSLATION: pigfart.mpeg
Anything here sound insane?
SEGFAULT
kharnov@tremforums ~ $ (http://imgur.com/BBvkT.jpg)
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It seems like superpie has found an equal match.
PS: Superpie is not part of the 'old crowd'. He is part of the same crowd as Kharnov, but acts like he has been around for a long time.
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lol drama
drama lol
(http://s11.info/~solar/Bqy94.jpg)
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wow i guess you annoyed a few people superpie i should really play tremulous more then i am atm
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Wow, superpie, you either need glasses, or stop drinking/doing drugs.
If the scenario from Celestial_Rage's condump had happened on any server I had a high enough admin on, I'd have setleveled you to 0 and banned you for 1-2 weeks. Admin is a responsibility, NOT a priviledge. If you can't use it responsibly, you'd better setlevel (or ask to be setleveled) yourself to 0/1 ASAP.
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The bottomline:
superpie fails. Actually, he shouldn't have been creating that topic.
GT wins, Medi because he is awesome and kharnov because he has a firm utility. Actually, the firmness level is very high.
Everyone other are succesful trolls who are making superspie's fail even bigger. Though kudos to them also.
Also, cool pic. :helmet:
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Where are these threatened condumps and screenshots that kharnov and medistation were making so much fuss about, anyway? I assume whatever happens they'll omit the bit where medi just happened to turn up aliased as GTremulant shortly after i told kharnov that i didn't think he could be trusted with a higher admin level, and the two started flaming and generally putting on an impressive display of clan drama for me in admin chat.
I suppose it was good of them to illustrate my point...
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Summary of complaints:
Celestial Rage gets muted, unmutes himself, gets kicked.
The_Medistation gets muted, unmutes himself, brings all of his friends to complain about Superpie for hours.
Lava_Croft hatin'.
Wow, superpie, you either need glasses, or stop drinking/doing drugs.
If the scenario from Celestial_Rage's condump had happened on any server I had a high enough admin on, I'd have setleveled you to 0 and banned you for 1-2 weeks. Admin is a responsibility, NOT a priviledge. If you can't use it responsibly, you'd better setlevel (or ask to be setleveled) yourself to 0/1 ASAP.
Then thankfully you're not in that position in this situation, because that seems a bit irrational.
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Summary of complaints:
Celestial Rage gets unjustly muted, unmutes himself, gets kicked because superpie can't read.
The_Medistation gets muted, unmutes himself, brings all of his friends to complain about Superpie for hours because thy have realized he is unfit for adminship.
Lava_Croft hatin'.
fix'd
Wow, superpie, you either need glasses, or stop drinking/doing drugs.
If the scenario from Celestial_Rage's condump had happened on any server I had a high enough admin on, I'd have setleveled you to 0 and banned you for 1-2 weeks. Admin is a responsibility, NOT a priviledge. If you can't use it responsibly, you'd better setlevel (or ask to be setleveled) yourself to 0/1 ASAP.
Then thankfully you're not in that position in this situation, because that seems a bit irrational.
Lol? And you weren't?
I'd agree wih Uniq, I'd do the same thing if I had the power. I'm not a fan of abusive/brainless admins.
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One thing is for sure about this situation:
Superpie is honest and comes out looking worse.
Medistation and Kharnov are liars and come out looking better.
All of them are poster children for the awesomeness of Tremulous Administrators.
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Never gonna leave this forum. <3
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Summary of complaints:
Celestial Rage gets muted, unmutes himself, gets kicked.
The_Medistation gets muted, unmutes himself, brings all of his friends to complain about Superpie for hours.
Lava_Croft hatin'.
Superpie, I unmuted myself when the game ended. Just to tell you that if you don't give a reason for your mutes in the future, I will kick you.
Also, Lava. I didn't lie about any of this.
Also, Tremulant: That's not the issue here, and I didn't even know about kharnov and the L4 thing until after the fact. I saw that you were on, changed my name for the sake of seeing your reaction, it doesn't have anything to do with this. It doesn't have anything to do with YOU. Besides, even if I were dumb enough to omit relevant parts of it, the logs would still have that information. I'm not that stupid you arrogant twat, it's one thing not to like me, it's another to insult my intelligence with absolutely no backbone (which I take very personally.) I'll provide my (abridged, with all things relevant in tact) condumps now, sure it will make me look like an ass- I am one, but the fact that I'm an ass has never gotten in the way of my administrative actions. Period. (I'd love for you to find a counter example.)
I don't have a problem with muting, so long as a valid reason is given. I feel the same about any other administrative action (save for maybe allready.) Admins can't use their powers just because they feel like it, I feel strongly about this.
Condump: I removed all the "[name] was chomped by [name]" out, as well as irrelevant conversations, just for the sake of keeping it concise, if I accidentally did remove something important, please notify me so I can edit it back in.
GTremulant entered the game
[S] GTremulant: Hello everybody.
[S] [ADMIN]flibble: why the GTremulant?
]/a What's wrong with naming myself remulant?
[S] [ADMIN]GTremulant: What's wrong with naming myself remulant?
[S] [ADMIN]flibble: nothing at all, i was just wondering if it's a tribute to
me, or mere coincidence
[S] [ADMIN]superpie: looks like coincidence to me
[H] [h -> GTremulant]: tribute to him. what a cock
]/a Well, it's certainly a tribute.
[S] [ADMIN]GTremulant: Well, it's certainly a tribute.
[S] [ADMIN]flibble: it is?! wonderful! :D
]/a Yes =D
[S] [ADMIN]GTremulant: Yes =D
[S] [ADMIN]GTremulant: Also, I hear you like oral.
[S] [ADMIN]flibble: well, if you haven't already worn out your knees, sure,
feel free
]/a Trust me man, I have strong knees. Lots of use over the years.
[S] [ADMIN]GTremulant: Trust me man, I have strong knees. Lots of use over
the years.
[H] [ADMIN]h: so when you say i can't be trusted, can you name a particular
instance
[H] [ADMIN]h: just curious
]/a lolwat
[S] [ADMIN]GTremulant: lolwat
[A] GT-Enzo Ferrari: hhhh
[H] h: yes
]/a Who?
[S] [ADMIN]GTremulant: Who?
[S] [ADMIN]flibble: not a single instance, it's just my overall experience of
you
[H] [ADMIN]h: you have very little overall experience of me, tremulant.
]/a I'm confused now-- what're we talking about.
[S] [ADMIN]GTremulant: I'm confused now-- what're we talking about.
[H] [ADMIN]h: i rarely come into contact with you
[S] [ADMIN]flibble: feel free to chat about it in IRC if you like, this isn't
the best place for whinging
[H] [ADMIN]h: well, you won't talk over messages
[H] [ADMIN]h: and you're the last person i'd install an IRC client for
]/a Oh my, that's harsh.
[S] [ADMIN]GTremulant: Oh my, that's harsh.
[S] [ADMIN]flibble: then feel free to just clam up and move on
]/a LOL I GET IT... Clam up!
[S] [ADMIN]GTremulant: LOL I GET IT... Clam up!
]/a Very witty.
[S] [ADMIN]GTremulant: Very witty.
]/a Personally, if anyone from ddos reccomended anything, I'd certainly do
the opposite. Except maybe meis.
[S] [ADMIN]GTremulant: Personally, if anyone from ddos reccomended anything,
I'd certainly do the opposite. Except maybe meis.
]/a I like Meis.
[S] [ADMIN]GTremulant: I like Meis.
[H] [ADMIN]h: meis is tolerable
[A] [ADMIN]flibble: kids, seriously, this is not the place for clan drama
[S] [ADMIN]GTremulant: We're kids now, lmao.
[S] [ADMIN]superpie: hey guys, how about a nice cup of shut the fuck up
[A] [ADMIN]flibble: you don't appear to have the maturity to drop it, so yes
[H] [ADMIN]+QRX': agree
[S] (GTremulant) (Ledge Room): superpie I am offended by your usage of the
word ''fuck'' can you please refrain from cursing in the future?
[S] (superpie): how about no
[S] (GTremulant) (Crates Room): But why?
[S] (GTremulant) (Crates Room): I even said ''please''
[S] (superpie): i said shut the fuck up
[S] (GTremulant) (Crates Room): Lmao, new command /ignore,.
[S] (GTremulant) (Crates Room): Learn it.
[S] (superpie): ignore isnt for admin chat ||||Side note, this is teamchat. I'm not sure what superpie is talking about here
[S] (GTremulant) (Crates Room): Oh, well... You could always try ignoring
people manually, as hard as it may be it's possible.
[S] (superpie): or i could mute you
[S] (GTremulant) (Crates Room): For?
[S] (superpie): if i had to explain myself to you wed be a lost world
[S] (GTremulant) (Crates Room): If you don't give a reason, I'll simply
retaliate. Also, this is teamchat, ignore works fine.
[S] (superpie): so does mute
mute: GTremulant has been muted by superpie
[H] [ADMIN]h: errr why was he muted
[S] [ADMIN]superpie: problem?
[A] [ADMIN]flibble: who?
[H] [ADMIN]h: not problem as much as wondering why
[H] [ADMIN]h: because i didn't see him say anything
[S] [ADMIN]superpie: because i decided to mute him
[H] [ADMIN]h: was he saying something
[S] [ADMIN]superpie: obviously
[H] [ADMIN]h: over messages?
[S] [ADMIN]superpie: over teamchat
[H] [ADMIN]h: could've just said that
Humans win |||| Note that the game ended BEFORE I unmuted myself.
[H] [ADMIN]h: i could just be recording all of this
unmute: GTremulant has been unmuted by GTremulant
[A] [ADMIN]flibble: please do
]I'm gunna kick you next time you do that Pie, you need a valaid reason.
[S] GTremulant: I'm gunna kick you next time you do that Pie, you need a
valaid reason.
[S] beauletonte: superpie seems like the only reasonable admin with balls
[S] beauletonte: the rest of them have sopping wet vaginas
[H] Lhowon: lol drosophilia playing as aliens
[A] GT-Enzo Ferrari: i wish people did kiss superpies ass though....
[S] +QRX': angry admins war time
[S] +QRX': love it
[S] [ADMIN]superpie: if you ever kick me for a valid mute, i should hope you
lose admin privs
[S] [ADMIN]superpie: that was a valid mute
]/a It wasn't valid.
[S] [ADMIN]GTremulant: It wasn't valid.
[S] [ADMIN]h: there's a command called /ignore
[S] [ADMIN]superpie: being the victim i think you are in no position to
decide that
[S] [ADMIN]superpie: and being in a circlejerk clam with him puts you in no
position to either h
[S] [ADMIN]h: GT is what you want, when you need it.
[S] [ADMIN]superpie: stop pestering me
]/a I have screenshots, and a condump, do we really want to find out who was
wrong?
[S] [ADMIN]GTremulant: I have screenshots, and a condump, do we really want
to find out who was wrong?
[S] [ADMIN]superpie: absolutely
[S] [ADMIN]superpie: but i already know
]/a Last I knew muting because you feel like it, isn't valid.
[S] [ADMIN]GTremulant: Last I knew muting because you feel like it, isn't
valid.
]/a I'd stop pestering you if you'd explain to me in what way it was valid--
What I did wrong to deserve it.
[S] [ADMIN]GTremulant: I'd stop pestering you if you'd explain to me in what
way it was valid-- What I did wrong to deserve it.
[S] GTremulant: It's really funny how pie can't explain himself.
[H] beauletonte: he doesnt have to
[H] playerwhoills: maybe he cant explain himself because he isnt at his
computer
[H] beauletonte: not to you especially
[S] superpie: its a matter of choice not ability
[S] GTremulant: Pie, imho it's a pretty arrogant choice.
[S] flibble: GT, so is supposing that your mute is really worth this much
pointless prattle
[S] h: there is only prattle because he is not receiving a satisfactory
explanation
[S] superpie: unfortunately they decided to make my mood the price of their
entertainment
[S] h: which can be resolved in one single message
[S] h: but clearly isn't, because arrogance is edgy
[S] superpie: i was having a nice night before this
[A] flibble: does he really need an explanation so desperately?
[S] h: yes
[S] h: clearly
[S] h: birdman, the mass driver is supposed to do that
[S] superpie: btw can you guys continue your banter in admin chat
]So if I muted pie right now I wouldn't have to explain myself?
[S] GTremulant: So if I muted pie right now I wouldn't have to explain
myself?
[S] superpie: its quite spammy
]/a Okay, admin chat it is.
[S] [ADMIN]GTremulant: Okay, admin chat it is.
]/a And I'm sorry, but I take any level of abuse very personally.
[S] [ADMIN]GTremulant: And I'm sorry, but I take any level of abuse very
personally.
Dumped console text to PieAbuse2.
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Here's some things said in the IRC, it's only what I logged at the time, there were comments by others later on though. Also note that the times are majorly off, the clock in my computer is slow.
(05:16:53 PM) The_Medistation: superpie: Why was I muted, if you don't respond promptly I'll take administrative action against you.
(05:22:49 PM) superpie: uh huh
(05:23:12 PM) superpie: i'll explain myself after you punish me, if i may
(05:23:25 PM) your_face: hai pai
(05:23:28 PM) superpie: hai faes
(05:23:44 PM) your_face: i will be your presiding lawyer in this case
(05:23:50 PM) superpie: 'kay
(05:24:53 PM) your_face: i can make your problems go away for a certain fee
(05:24:55 PM) your_face: no questions asked
(05:25:45 PM) superpie: The_Medistation: i'm sure that no matter the reason you will come up with a dozen excuses
(05:29:53 PM) philh: just to clarify, relevant irc nicks correspond to which ingame names for the purposes of this discussion?
(05:30:40 PM) superpie: The_Medistation is GTremulant, you're tremulant, and I am myself
(05:32:36 PM) superpie: it's odd that the guy who helped kharnov tag-team-troll philh for not supporting him getting l4 is now telling me he wants my admin revoked because i muted him for consistently pestering me
(05:34:13 PM) The_Medistation: superpie: New command /ignore
(05:35:00 PM) The_Medistation: superpie: I wasn't even aware of the L4 thing until after.
(05:35:01 PM) superpie: that justifies which of your actions, exactly?
(05:35:37 PM) The_Medistation: What justifies your administrative actions? My actions so far as I can tell did not warrant a mute.
(05:36:12 PM) superpie: you spammed me with questions
(05:36:31 PM) The_Medistation: Once again, /ignore
(05:36:40 PM) superpie: you pretended that the word 'fuck' offended you and decided to make a big deal out of it
(05:36:52 PM) superpie: /ignore is not a reason to annoy me
(05:37:02 PM) Paradox is now known as trollface
(05:37:09 PM) superpie: quite
(05:37:12 PM) trollface is now known as Paradox
(05:37:16 PM) The_Medistation: You're right, it's a way to stop me from annoying you.
(05:37:43 PM) The_Medistation: I wasn't spamming, I wasn't interfering with the game-- in what way did I deserve a mute.
(05:38:05 PM) superpie: i told you why several times
(05:38:20 PM) superpie: i don't feel the need to tell you any more than i have
(05:38:28 PM) The_Medistation: And I've told you a better solution, /ignore.
(05:38:40 PM) superpie: you keep saying that as if it matters
(05:39:08 PM) The_Medistation: It does. Admin commands aren't for personal gain, they aren't to make your experience better, they're simply to keep the server in order.
(05:40:06 PM) superpie: they're also to keep certain people in order
(05:40:49 PM) The_Medistation: Any objections to that?
(05:40:54 PM) The_Medistation: er
(05:41:43 PM) The_Medistation: I may have been annoying you, but I wasn't disrupting the game. Hence why the /ignore command would have been a much better solution.
(05:42:07 PM) The_Medistation: Tell me this, then I'll stop: Why was mute a better solution than /ignore?
(05:42:19 PM) superpie: nobody said it was
(05:42:29 PM) The_Medistation: So you needlessly used an admin command?
(05:42:38 PM) superpie: i did it because i found it was an adequate punishment for trolling
(05:43:00 PM) superpie: i am going to take your advice and ignore you now, because i have no ability to mute here :)
(05:43:22 PM) The_Medistation: Heh, fine. Please take it in the future.
(05:43:40 PM) The_Medistation: Otherwise I'll punish you as I see fit, as you've done to me.
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I think I'll stop arguing about this nonsense, now that you've successfully defiled this thread with your complaints about being muted. I regret none of the things I've done pertaining to the matter, although I do acknowledge an oversight of mine that I noticed in Celestial's log (although it would not have effected my actions). I would like to mention that your clan or "clam" buddies coming to flame me for my actions against you will sway me less than your argument alone, because involvement of your moron cronies detracts from my time and motivation to take people seriously.
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I think I'll stop arguing about this nonsense, now that you've successfully defiled this thread with your complaints about being muted. I regret none of the things I've done pertaining to the matter, although I do acknowledge an oversight of mine that I noticed in Celestial's log (although it would not have effected my actions). I would like to mention that your clan or "clam" buddies coming to flame me for my actions against you will sway me less than your argument alone, because involvement of your moron cronies detracts from my time and motivation to take people seriously.
So, you simply came back to whine about me (and others) complaining? Okay, sounds reasonable...
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I think I'll stop arguing about this nonsense, now that you've successfully defiled this thread with your complaints about being muted. I regret none of the things I've done pertaining to the matter, although I do acknowledge an oversight of mine that I noticed in Celestial's log (although it would not have effected my actions). I would like to mention that your clan or "clam" buddies coming to flame me for my actions against you will sway me less than your argument alone, because involvement of your moron cronies detracts from my time and motivation to take people seriously.
Yes. Let's all just make it a point to fully understand the situation before we take administrative action. Other than that, happy tremming!
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Yes. Let's all just make it a point to fully understand the situation before we take administrative action. Other than that, happy tremming!
Also, I'd just like to add that (we, as admins) should explain WHY we took administrative action.
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what's so hard about unmuting yourself
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I got kicked for umuting myself.
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I got kicked for umuting myself.
Yeah, it's considered evasion. My question is, if the mute's not legit why not "unmute self; kick abuser?" It prevents them from pulling the whole evasion card and kicking you, and sends the message "don't fuck with me, learn to admin." Of course, if the admin at hand is a higher level than you, it can become a bigger issue.
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so admins, even though they have !unmute can't use it on themselves, lol
ah, such is life.
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I got kicked for umuting myself.
Yeah, it's considered evasion. My question is, if the mute's not legit why not "unmute self; kick abuser?" It prevents them from pulling the whole evasion card and kicking you, and sends the message "don't fuck with me, learn to admin." Of course, if the admin at hand is a higher level than you, it can become a bigger issue.
I get the feeling I'd be banned for longer.
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Superpie: dude, you're so obviously a terrible admin, and you have a fair bit of evidence against you. If your admin stays intact, I will seriously question the devs judgment...
I smell demotion in the future...
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Devs are a tight knit group. They do what they want, and that's how they roll.
Also: loldrama.
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Superpie gains 9001 exp in Arrogance!
Superpie levels up! Arrogance level: 99
Not giving a reason (intentionally or not) is from other people's PoV same as not having a reason. Saying here that you still don't see having made a mistake after all that is just plain stupid.
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Why did nobody pick up how Medistation started to impersonate and troll dear Tremulant?
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That looked more to me like medi being a goofball as per usual.
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That looked more to me like medi being a goofball as per usual.
Why is it that if Superpie misbehaves he is unfit to be an admin, but when Medistation misbehaves he is just being a goofball?
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[h -> GTremulant]: tribute to him. what a cock
whooops.
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[h -> GTremulant]: tribute to him. what a cock
whooops.
Meis, don't you know that you aren't supposed to point out Medistation's misconduct.
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There's a difference between being silly and abusing.
Medi is silly, not abusive.
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There's a difference between being silly and abusing.
Medi is silly, not abusive.
He's abusive, has a history of ban evasion and is generally very badly behaved, silly he aint.
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If he ain't silly, ok, Medi is awesome. Deal.
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If he ain't silly, ok, Medi is awesome. Deal.
NO HE'S NOT. DRAMA GOGOGOGOGOGO
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That looked more to me like medi being a goofball as per usual.
Why is it that if Superpie misbehaves he is unfit to be an admin, but when Medistation misbehaves he is just being a goofball?
Because I wasn't abusing?
There's a difference between being silly and abusing.
Medi is silly, not abusive.
He's abusive, has a history of ban evasion and is generally very badly behaved, silly he aint.
I'm abusive now? Nobody's ever pointed out one time I've abused. History is history: Learn from history or you're doomed to repeat it. I've learned, that aside I've never evaded a just ban (errm, on the official servers that is- but what wasn't is ancient history.) Badly behaved? Maybe, everything is relative (although in self defense I'd like to say that my behavior as a player, and as an admin has never interfered with the game-- so far as I can tell.)
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wow
shut the fuck up
nobody gives a shit
thx
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wow
shut the fuck up
nobody gives a shit
thx
You really need to read the forum rules bro.
4.) No spamming
Spamming, in the context of these forums, includes, but is not limited to, the following:
* Posts that serve no purpose (one word posts, posts like, "Me too!") and/or posts that fail to contribute to the productivity of a thread (This includes off-topic/derailment posts)
* Extreme usage of blank lines to make the post longer.
6.) Criticism must be constructive.
Also: Saying that you "didn't know the rules," or "didn't know that it was a rule," is not an acceptable excuse.
And people do give a shit, otherwise the thread would've died ages ago.
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I know the rules. The only few people who have even posted in this thread are just tossing back the same stale argument, over and over again. Everybody is tired of this bullshit. Go carry this conversation somewhere less public, so you don't kill off the rest of Tremulous's population by infighting like a bunch of inbred moron children. Honestly. Be mature like you try to act (but only end up frigid and distant like said before). This means you are a giant douchebag.
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this is exactly what i was trying to tell superpie when he kicked me. i was giving him constructive criticism and he kicked me for it. heres the worst part-he wouldnt and still wont give me a reason. his reasons for kicking are "figure it out yourself." he doesnt deserve his admin at all-hes got a twisted view on how to use admin powers and he doesnt care about anyone but himself. his admin should be made 2 at most, hopefully lower, like negative 1
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also, his view on how admin should be used should be enough evidence to demote him without all of our complaints. hes basically a dictator-talking about kicking people if they ask why they were kicked and moving people against their will from team to team. superpie are you the reincarnation of hitler or something? its clear that not only GTs hate you having admin, nearly everyone does. youre not only abusing youre making people hate you, and when they say something mean to you you kick them. im suprised the devs havent demoted you yet, you definitely deserve it
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Abe, superpie can certainly be a bit of a twat, few here would contest that, but i think you're seriously overhyping his behaviour as an admin, as for your constant demands for his demotion, it's a bit weird.
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im constantly demanding his demotion because he shouldnt be able to get away with this level of abuse. look at his views on adminship-theyre terrible and against what being an admin is all about. hes given control over everyone and he constantly takes advantage of it. tremulant-do you, or do you not think he should be demoted. be honest
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superpie are you the reincarnation of hitler or something?
Lol.
i also want to address the belief of a GT conspiracy. i didnt know superpie hated GT until i saw him truly abuse. when you look at it, many people hate GTs, including many admins, but were not trying to defame all of them. i think the massive complaints do correlate to the fact that GT is very large. also, many people not in GT hate having superpie as an admin
Hmm, although I am in GT, I never seen superpie abuse with my own eyes. I don't negate the fact he's abusing, just my 2 cents.
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100% awesome, i completely missed Abe's epic godwining of this thread :D
I, being honest, see no reason to demote him, but why don't you discuss this in your own thread dedicated to the topic?
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how do you see no reason to demote him. HOW!?? He constantly abuses and weve got tons of people-as proven on this post-to prove it. just because youre friends with him doesnt mean you should defend him. there are numerous damn great reasons to demote him
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Abe, you're sounding a little tired and emotional, maybe you should give this a break until you're feeling better?
just incase it helps, i'll refer you to this thread (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=14453.0) where i think your cries of DEMOTE SUPERPIE NAO! are a little more on topic.
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more people are talking about demoting him here-so i think its pretty on topic
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So you don't feel like going to your own dedicated superpie admin abuse thread and building a body of evidence on which to base these calls for demotion?
as for
just because youre friends with him doesnt mean you should defend him.
LOL, just LOL.
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Abe, you're sounding a little tired and emotional, maybe you should give this a break until you're feeling better?
just incase it helps, i'll refer you to this thread (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=14453.0) where i think your cries of DEMOTE SUPERPIE NAO! are a little more on topic.
Affirmative. This has gone a bit far. Sure I think superpie has been a bit heavy-handed in the past, and it annoys me as much as the next guy when someone refuses to tell you what a kick or ban is for, but this went too far a page and a half ago at least.
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WOW honest abe YOU DOUBLE POSTED. YOU SHOULD DEFINITELY BE BANNED FOR ABUSING THE FORUM SYSTEM!
@Medi: no one cares about the great "rules." And also especially because no moderator exists on these forums.
Everyone, stop being so legalistic, it got boring a long while back.
Group hug, everyone. :D :)
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Group hug, everyone. :D
:-*
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And also especially because no moderator exists on these forums.
Tell that to the people removing the spambot posts.
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your face, you should care about the rules- theyre there for us to follow. also- i dont see how making two posts should get me banned. we need to worry about the person who is abusing
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Tell that to the people removing the spambot posts.
I'll rephrase, there are no moderators who visit the forums regularly. When I do happen to find a spambot I usually ask a mod on irc, because I don't expect them to descend to this hive of scum and villainy by themselves. And I certainly don't blame them either.
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its not spamming if its just two posts idiot. now stop going off topic. superpie tried to attack me on the other chat topic and completely lost to me. its still proven that hes too immature to realize a mistake
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Tell that to the people removing the spambot posts.
I'll rephrase, there are no moderators who visit the forums regularly
I know at least one moderator that visits these forums regularly. I'm fairly certain there are more.
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now stop going off topic(that's my job, forum rules be there for my benefit not yours). superpie tried to attack me on the other chat topic and completely lost to me(cause i'm so awesome and always right). its still proven that hes too immature to realize a mistake(i's got hairyballsack, therefore i's good admin, an i maek no mistake)
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your face, you should care about the rules- theyre there for us to follow. also- i dont see how making two posts should get me banned. we need to worry about the person who is abusing
its not spamming if its just two posts idiot. now stop going off topic. superpie tried to attack me on the other chat topic and completely lost to me. its still proven that hes too immature to realize a mistake
Use the law, get owned by the law:
4.) No spamming or advertising (includes useless multi-posts and bumps.)
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look at it closely- it says USELESS multi-posts. that multi post was not useless therefore its ok. so good job owning yourself
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look at it closely- it says USELESS multi-posts. that multi post was not useless therefore its ok. so good job owning yourself
You really are an unutterably prickish individual...
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look at it closely- it says USELESS multi-posts. that multi post was not useless therefore its ok. so good job owning yourself
They are useless because you could have easily used the edit button instead. You are useless. Your mom is useless. And she wears army boots.
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Enough of this. All of it. Both sides of the argument seem to have degraded into utter retardation. It's a flame war now. If I (or, any other high level admin) see superpie abusing (or any other abuser for that matter.,) I'm sure he'll at the very least get a kick. Then maybe there will be a thread as to why that happened, and if by some miracle it doesn't degrade into a flamewar, whatever administrative issues at hand will surely be dealt with.
Another option: Next time, it'd probably be a good idea to go on the IRC channel to directly talk to the devs-- Rather than dealing with the... complications these forums bring.
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we just need to stop him he has no self control
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Abe posting on the forums hasn't helped thus far, I doubt rehashes of what we've already said will change that. The topic needs to end, it's going nowhere and it's turned into a waste of time. Our only option is to let superpie be superpie until he does something that will leave no room for debate-- As our current debate is circular, and rather flamey. Sadly this is how it has to be, and don't think for a second I like it.
Keep an eye on him, and turn autorecord on. It's the best, if not only course of action.
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Your mother was a blender. >:(
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I've stayed out of this for a while. Let me get into the topic...
penis
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I think OhaiReapd summed it up nicely.
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Agreed Tremulant, I mean it's about all that's come out of this thread.
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your face, theres no need to insult family members. my mom is a great person and i dont get to see her much since im in college-you insulting her doesnt help anything. see if i were superpie i would kick and ban you, but im a RESPONSIBLE admin and will use the ignore command. kicking should only be used if the player is affecting the gameplay. tremulant, you hate me and i get it. stop calling me a prick because i am not one. people get the idea that im a terrible person just because im in GT
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At this juncture your membership of GT has practically bugger-all to do with it, you really are doing a great job of convincing us that you're a terrible person on your own merits :(
Anyway, i'll refer you back to the only reasonable last word on this matter.
penis
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i dont see why so many people hate GTs, we are good people with good intentions
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i dont see why so many people hate GTs, we are good people with good intentions
Too bad the intentions dont match up with the actions.
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i dont see why so many people hate GTs, we are good people with good intentions
Hey abe, me again, how about a quick reading comprehension test?
At this juncture your membership of GT has practically bugger-all to do with it1, you really are doing a great job of convincing us that you're a terrible person on your own merits2 :(3
Hopefully the extra emphasis will make things a little more obvious to you, but just in case...
- As you can see, any feelings toward the group with which you associate in trem are irrelevant, GT would actually do well to eject you to save their reputation at this point.
- This means that your behaviour and general attitude concern me, i don't want to believe that you are an obnoxious,immature and self-righteous little half-wit, but your inability to keep your mouth shut makes this increasingly difficult.
- This is a sad face, I am saddened.
btw. smf's formatting options are decidedly win.
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i dont see why so many people hate GTs, we are good people with good intentions
Too bad the intentions dont match up with the actions.
I'm GT and I don't appreaciate that.
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well tremulant im not going to be kicked out of GT anytime soon. im very well liked and might actually become a GT officer. i dont uderstand whats with your constant insults to me so i guess its just you. im guessing youre having trouble in your personal life and youre taking it out on me, find a counselor. also i dont see whats wrong with campaigning to demote an admin abuser
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well tremulant im not going to be kicked out of GT anytime soon. im very well liked and might actually become a GT officer. i dont uderstand whats with your constant insults to me so i guess its just you. im guessing youre having trouble in your personal life and youre taking it out on me, find a counselor. also i dont see whats wrong with campaigning to demote an admin abuser
The way you spell and right. No capitals, no grammar. Not worth my time. I don't like you and I'm GT.
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reapd im not writing an english paper so focus on the subject not on the grammar. Its cool if you dont like me reapd, ive got plenty of friends so i dont need your approval.
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im a RESPONSIBLE admin rawr!
Aren't you the guy who denybuilds people when you don't think they're building good enough?
edit: also, aren't you the guy who got your admin because you recited the server rules? lol
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im a RESPONSIBLE admin rawr!
Aren't you the guy who denybuilds people when you don't think they're building good enough?
edit: also, aren't you the guy who got your admin because you recited the server rules? lol
Very hypocritical seeing as his guide sucks, and so do all of his bases.
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my guide was for beginners, its common sense to all of us. lecav i do use denybuild a lot but i always warn first and i only do it so the team wont be jeopordized. plus, i usually callvote denybuild because i like for other players to have a say in things. I tell the person, watch an experienced person build and you will learn. C4, you are the only person who has called me a bad builder, and once again, dont be disrespectful
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I'm not the only one who has described you as a bad builder. Many other people have, you just only have ears and eyes for me.
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Cannot tell exactly, I've never noticed Abe building. :-\
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I actually read his guide earlier today, "shithead", brilliant, just brilliant.
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I actually read his guide earlier today, "shithead", brilliant, just brilliant.
Lol.
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reapd im not writing an english paper so focus on the subject not on the grammar. Its cool if you dont like me reapd, ive got plenty of friends so i dont need your approval.
Well then I don't respect you.
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seeing as you've got plenty of friends, why not go hang out with them and rid us of your stupidity? :acidtube: :acidtube: :acidtube: :acidtube: :acidtube: :acidtube: :acidtube: :acidtube: :acidtube:
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seeing as you've got plenty of friends, why not go hang out with them and rid us of your stupidity? :acidtube: :acidtube: :acidtube: :acidtube: :acidtube: :acidtube: :acidtube: :acidtube: :acidtube:
YRES
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I think it would be awesome if all the non-GT people would quit posting in this thread, so we can see the GT people duke it out themsleves. I have always been a huge fan of the special olympics.
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I think it would be awesome if all the non-GT people would quit posting in this thread, so we can see the GT people duke it out themsleves. I have always been a huge fan of the special olympics.
well, I do consider you a member lava.
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I think it would be awesome if all the non-GT people would quit posting in this thread, so we can see the GT people duke it out themsleves. I have always been a huge fan of the special olympics.
well, I do consider you a member lava.
Really, because he's not on your roster.
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I think it would be awesome if all the non-GT people would quit posting in this thread, so we can see the GT people duke it out themsleves. I have always been a huge fan of the special olympics.
well, I do consider you a member lava.
Really, because he's not on your roster.
He was, but due to a server error where it accidentally divided by 0, we can't display him there anymore. He'll always be a member though, he'll always have his place in my heart, the heart of the clam.
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I think it would be awesome if all the non-GT people would quit posting in this thread, so we can see the GT people duke it out themsleves. I have always been a huge fan of the special olympics.
Hmm, as far as I know, I am not mentally deficient. My IQ is much higher than that of a person who would be considered retarded. Now you, I'm not sure about. Oh, I don't like you either. Actually more so that Abe.
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C4 you dont have to lie about people calling me a bad builder.
I want you to realize something. I said you were on thin ice because you were being very disrespectful, but i would say that to you even if you were disrespecting another player and not me. Ive muted people before for constant disrespect to another player, its what needs to be done for people to have an enjoyable game.
Think about this, if i had been Superpie, you wouldve been kicked and banned for God knows how long. Be lucky im one of the more understanding admins
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I didn't even bother reading that. The fact of the matter is, Honest Abe's IQ is most likely equal to his shoe size.
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C4 you dont have to lie about people calling me a bad builder.
I want you to realize something. I said you were on thin ice because you were being very disrespectful, but i would say that to you even if you were disrespecting another player and not me. Ive muted people before for constant disrespect to another player, its what needs to be done for people to have an enjoyable game.
Think about this, if i had been Superpie, you wouldve been kicked and banned for God knows how long. Be lucky im one of the more understanding admins
His accusations are just as valid and evidence backed as your own. What exactly were you threatening him for and what's this whole obsession with respect, do you seriously think you've earned any?
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I didn't even bother reading that. The fact of the matter is, Honest Abe's IQ is most likely equal to his shoe size.
Well. I have size 15 shoes. Lawl. He's only slightly mentally retarded if his shoes are my size.
+1
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You dont get it tremulant, i wasnt threatening him, i was warning him, like all admins do if someone is crossing the line. ive got plenty of people who respect me-yet theres bound to be people who dont. tremulant you are respected by some and disliked by others; but just because someone doesnt like you it doesnt mean you should just go up and start insulting them, especially on a game where were supposed to be having fun
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He seemed to suggest that he was threatened with a mute for criticising your base, with most admins i could imagine that was a joke, but in your case it seems unlikely.
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And my thread was locked for pointing out this? :-*
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you seem to get this strange idea that i abuse my admin by threatening others. well, youre wrong. c4 wasnt just insulting a base he was insulting me as well. Plus, i let it pass.
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And my thread was locked for pointing out this? :-*
Didn't you leave to go play some other shit game? Be gone.
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And my thread was locked for pointing out this? :-*
Didn't you leave to go play some other shit game? Be gone.
So you agree this is a shit game. Thanks. :)
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There are many ways to administrate the servers, and these ways of administrating are wrong for me: admin abuse, intolerance, not helping, not listening others and irresponsible for his duty as an admin. And I try avoid these as best as I can.
This sentece should fit well, for what comes talk in here: Judge not, lest ye be judged.
I don't know much about Superpie, I've seen him only one or few times while playing (atleast on spec.) And about his guidelines, they may be harsh and rough, but it is also true (on some parts.) Especially in kicks. If you don't know why you got kicked, even when I warned you, punished you by /putteam or /mute, you're one big asshole to annoy me. And others. And I don't judge persons by their writings, or what others been said to him. I judge by actions done in my sight, or record. One pic means thousand words, aint it? (Or how it was written...?)
Being admin is not for fun, or bragging about it. It Is Responsibility. And I've told that thousands of times. You punish someone, you take responsibility for your actions. You did right, you made world good place to live for that moment, and when moment passes, world's crazy again.
And a final note while being admin:
One of the hardest thing to everyone, is to admit you did wrong. Requires lot of courage to say that. I give lot of points for those who can admit and say "I was wrong in this matter, i'm sorry".
PS: I'm just one world-class moron and asshole to ruin your day. Or the opposite.
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There are many ways to administrate the servers, and these ways of administrating are wrong for me: admin abuse, intolerance, not helping, not listening others and irresponsible for his duty as an admin. And I try avoid these as best as I can.
This sentece should fit well, for what comes talk in here: Judge not, lest ye be judged.
I don't know much about Superpie, I've seen him only one or few times while playing (atleast on spec.) And about his guidelines, they may be harsh and rough, but it is also true (on some parts.) Especially in kicks. If you don't know why you got kicked, even when I warned you, punished you by /putteam or /mute, you're one big asshole to annoy me. And others. And I don't judge persons by their writings, or what others been said to him. I judge by actions done in my sight, or record. One pic means thousand words, aint it? (Or how it was written...?)
Being admin is not for fun, or bragging about it. It Is Responsibility. And I've told that thousands of times. You punish someone, you take responsibility for your actions. You did right, you made world good place to live for that moment, and when moment passes, world's crazy again.
And a final note while being admin:
One of the hardest thing to everyone, is to admit you did wrong. Requires lot of courage to say that. I give lot of points for those who can admit and say "I was wrong in this matter, i'm sorry".
PS: I'm just one world-class moron and asshole to ruin your day. Or the opposite.
I'd give you one more ret, but I need to get moar posts first.
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There are many ways to administrate the servers, and these ways of administrating are wrong for me: admin abuse, intolerance, not helping, not listening others and irresponsible for his duty as an admin. And I try avoid these as best as I can.
This sentece should fit well, for what comes talk in here: Judge not, lest ye be judged.
I don't know much about Superpie, I've seen him only one or few times while playing (atleast on spec.) And about his guidelines, they may be harsh and rough, but it is also true (on some parts.) Especially in kicks. If you don't know why you got kicked, even when I warned you, punished you by /putteam or /mute, you're one big asshole to annoy me. And others. And I don't judge persons by their writings, or what others been said to him. I judge by actions done in my sight, or record. One pic means thousand words, aint it? (Or how it was written...?)
Being admin is not for fun, or bragging about it. It Is Responsibility. And I've told that thousands of times. You punish someone, you take responsibility for your actions. You did right, you made world good place to live for that moment, and when moment passes, world's crazy again.
And a final note while being admin:
One of the hardest thing to everyone, is to admit you did wrong. Requires lot of courage to say that. I give lot of points for those who can admit and say "I was wrong in this matter, i'm sorry".
PS: I'm just one world-class moron and asshole to ruin your day. Or the opposite.
I'd give you one more ret, but I need to get moar posts first.
dw i gave him 1 more good post corsair
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There are many ways to administrate the servers, and these ways of administrating are wrong for me: admin abuse, intolerance, not helping, not listening others and irresponsible for his duty as an admin. And I try avoid these as best as I can.
This sentece should fit well, for what comes talk in here: Judge not, lest ye be judged.
I don't know much about Superpie, I've seen him only one or few times while playing (atleast on spec.) And about his guidelines, they may be harsh and rough, but it is also true (on some parts.) Especially in kicks. If you don't know why you got kicked, even when I warned you, punished you by /putteam or /mute, you're one big asshole to annoy me. And others. And I don't judge persons by their writings, or what others been said to him. I judge by actions done in my sight, or record. One pic means thousand words, aint it? (Or how it was written...?)
Being admin is not for fun, or bragging about it. It Is Responsibility. And I've told that thousands of times. You punish someone, you take responsibility for your actions. You did right, you made world good place to live for that moment, and when moment passes, world's crazy again.
And a final note while being admin:
One of the hardest thing to everyone, is to admit you did wrong. Requires lot of courage to say that. I give lot of points for those who can admit and say "I was wrong in this matter, i'm sorry".
PS: I'm just one world-class moron and asshole to ruin your day. Or the opposite.
I'd give you one more ret, but I need to get moar posts first.
dw i gave him 1 more good post corsair
QFT.
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On Muting
If I mute you, and you evade it, i kick you. If you're an admin and you think you're hot shit and unmute yourself, I consider that evasion and still kick you.
Wait what? You mute other admins and kick them if they unmute themselves? That sounds pretty... dumb
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On Muting
If I mute you, and you evade it, i kick you. If you're an admin and you think you're hot shit and unmute yourself, I consider that evasion and still kick you.
Wait what? You mute other admins and kick them if they unmute themselves? That sounds pretty... dumb
Hurr, don't bring this up again.