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Title: Creature of hell tries to teach grammar
Post by: CreatureofHell on November 29, 2010, 07:55:08 pm
A* HD Tremulous
?

Proper grammar.
Title: Creature of hell tries to teach grammar
Post by: Tremulant on November 29, 2010, 08:01:52 pm
Why must grammar nazis fail so.
Title: Creature of hell tries to teach grammar
Post by: CreatureofHell on November 29, 2010, 09:07:04 pm
Why must grammar nazis fail so.

Do go on.
Title: Creature of hell tries to teach grammar
Post by: Tremulant on November 29, 2010, 09:36:57 pm
"An aitch-dee tremulous" sounds fine to me, certainly better than your suggestion, but i only speak this language day to day, and i do have tendency to take "sounds more sane" over "is strictly grammatically correct but sounds daft".
Title: Creature of hell tries to teach grammar
Post by: CreatureofHell on November 29, 2010, 10:01:14 pm
That's because it's "a haitch-dee tremulous". With this pronunciation and proper grammar it fits perfectly.
Title: Creature of hell tries to teach grammar
Post by: Tremulant on November 29, 2010, 10:06:47 pm
I'm sorry, you feel compelled to pick people up on their grammar and at the same time you mispronounce the letter H?
Title: Creature of hell tries to teach grammar
Post by: CreatureofHell on November 29, 2010, 10:36:45 pm
I'm sorry, you feel compelled to pick people up on their grammar and at the same time you mispronounce the letter H?

Here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11642588), and here (http://www.anu.edu.au/ANDC/pubs/ozwords/June_98/2._aitch.htm) might help.
Title: Creature of hell tries to teach grammar
Post by: David on November 29, 2010, 11:03:14 pm
An doesn't precede a word starting with a vowel, it precedes a word that sounds like it starts with a vowel.  eg an hour.

So it depends on how you say HD.  I would say an HD or a High Definition.  AFAIK that's what queens English says too.
Title: Creature of hell tries to teach grammar
Post by: Pazuzu on November 30, 2010, 01:04:40 am
Riveting story, chap.
Title: Re: Creature of hell tries to teach grammar
Post by: mooseberry on November 30, 2010, 02:24:42 am
"An HD Tremulous..." is actually correct, though arguing over an or a really shouldn't happen. See http://www.dailywritingtips.com/when-to-use-an/ (http://www.dailywritingtips.com/when-to-use-an/) for some instructions, specifically the section on "Which indefinite article to use before an abbreviation, a numeral, or a symbol, depends upon pronunciation." You'll notice, because "HD" is pronounced one letter at a time, and the letter 'h' is pronounced with a hard a at the beginning (In almost all dialects of English, the name for the letter is pronounced /ˈeɪtʃ/ and spelled ‹aitch›[1] or occasionally ‹eitch›. The pronunciation /ˈheɪtʃ/ and hence a spelling of ‹haitch› is often considered to be h-adding and hence nonstandard), or in IPA, /ˈeɪtʃ/ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H), the word 'an' should be used, not 'a'. Thanks for listening guys. Shouldn't be a big deal.  ;)
Title: Re: Creature of hell tries to teach grammar
Post by: Pazuzu on November 30, 2010, 06:25:02 am
"An HD Tremulous..." is actually correct, though arguing over an or a really shouldn't happen. See http://www.dailywritingtips.com/when-to-use-an/ (http://www.dailywritingtips.com/when-to-use-an/) for some instructions, specifically the section on "Which indefinite article to use before an abbreviation, a numeral, or a symbol, depends upon pronunciation." You'll notice, because "HD" is pronounced one letter at a time, and the letter 'h' is pronounced with a hard a at the beginning (In almost all dialects of English, the name for the letter is pronounced /ˈeɪtʃ/ and spelled ‹aitch›[1] or occasionally ‹eitch›. The pronunciation /ˈheɪtʃ/ and hence a spelling of ‹haitch› is often considered to be h-adding and hence nonstandard), or in IPA, /ˈeɪtʃ/ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H), the word 'an' should be used, not 'a'. Thanks for listening guys. Shouldn't be a big deal.  ;)
Exactly. It depends on how you pronounce HD, and it looks like there are three ways:
-Pronouncing "HD" as one word... maybe something like "h'd"?
-Actually saying "high definition" each time, which makes you sound like a tool.
-Spelling it out: "H-D", which, as per Moose's link, would mean "an HD".
Now that this is over, can we get back to more important things, like flaming each other the Great Engine Debate?
Title: Re: Creature of hell tries to teach grammar
Post by: Aviator on November 30, 2010, 06:53:49 am
http://www.grammar-monster.com/lessons/an_or_a.htm
Title: Re: Creature of hell tries to teach grammar
Post by: mooseberry on November 30, 2010, 08:09:43 am
http://www.grammar-monster.com/lessons/an_or_a.htm

Thanks, but the party was last week.
Title: Re: Creature of hell tries to teach grammar
Post by: Anonymoose on November 30, 2010, 10:10:44 am
 :o you lot will argue about anything...
Title: Re: Creature of hell tries to teach grammar
Post by: Celestial_Rage on November 30, 2010, 11:26:17 am
:o you lot will argue about anything...

Hardly.
Title: Re: Creature of hell tries to teach grammar
Post by: Asvarox on November 30, 2010, 01:13:17 pm
http://www.grammar-monster.com/lessons/an_or_a.htm
Got 5/5 from the test \o/
Title: Re: Creature of hell tries to teach grammar
Post by: Tremulant on November 30, 2010, 02:44:08 pm
Exactly. It depends on how you pronounce HD, and it looks like there are three ways:
-Pronouncing "HD" as one word... maybe something like "h'd"?
-Actually saying "high definition" each time, which makes you sound like a tool.
-Spelling it out: "H-D", which, as per Moose's link, would mean "an HD".
Now that this is over, can we get back to more important things, like flaming each other the Great Engine Debate?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srVNHEvv6rc
Title: Re: Creature of hell tries to teach grammar
Post by: Taiyo.uk on December 02, 2010, 12:16:06 am
Hmm. I'm not entirely sure what CoH did here. Was it an "auto-backtroll"? Possibly it was a "ran over by my own pwndozer". Whatever the case, the little jagged green line was drawn in the wrong place.
Title: Re: Creature of hell tries to teach grammar
Post by: CreatureofHell on December 02, 2010, 04:24:59 pm
Hmm. I'm not entirely sure what CoH did here. Was it an "auto-backtroll"? Possibly it was a "ran over by my own pwndozer". Whatever the case, the little jagged green line was drawn in the wrong place.

I have successfully isolated someone being intolerant of other people's cultures. They are saying that my pronunciation of a letter, while accepted elsewhere, is wrong.
Title: Re: Creature of hell tries to teach grammar
Post by: Tremulant on December 02, 2010, 04:34:36 pm
Since this thread was split in a slightly confusing way i'll add a couple of quotes to clarify.

It seems there has been a lot of hoopla recently about an "HD tremulous".
A* HD Tremulous
Title: Re: Creature of hell tries to teach grammar
Post by: Meisseli on December 03, 2010, 12:15:01 am
Hmm. I'm not entirely sure what CoH did here. Was it an "auto-backtroll"? Possibly it was a "ran over by my own pwndozer". Whatever the case, the little jagged green line was drawn in the wrong place.

I have successfully isolated someone being intolerant of other people's cultures. They are saying that my pronunciation of a letter, while accepted elsewhere, is wrong.
Weren't you being intolerant in the first place, implying another person's pronounciation of a letter was wrong?
Title: Re: Creature of hell tries to teach grammar
Post by: CreatureofHell on December 03, 2010, 05:27:00 pm
Hmm. I'm not entirely sure what CoH did here. Was it an "auto-backtroll"? Possibly it was a "ran over by my own pwndozer". Whatever the case, the little jagged green line was drawn in the wrong place.

I have successfully isolated someone being intolerant of other people's cultures. They are saying that my pronunciation of a letter, while accepted elsewhere, is wrong.
Weren't you being intolerant in the first place, implying another person's pronounciation of a letter was wrong?

Notice how I neglected using proper by the word pronunciation:
That's because it's "a haitch-dee tremulous". With this pronunciation and proper grammar it fits perfectly.
Title: Re: Creature of hell tries to teach grammar
Post by: Tremulant on December 03, 2010, 08:59:08 pm
Notice how I neglected using proper by the word pronunciation:
Now I'm having trouble making any sense of you at all.