Why must grammar nazis fail so.
"An aitch-dee tremulous" sounds fine to me, certainly better than your suggestion, but i only speak this language day to day, and i do have tendency to take "sounds more sane" over "is strictly grammatically correct but sounds daft".
That's because it's "a haitch-dee tremulous". With this pronunciation and proper grammar it fits perfectly.
I'm sorry, you feel compelled to pick people up on their grammar and at the same time you mispronounce the letter H?
Quote from: Tremulant on November 29, 2010, 10:06:47 PM
I'm sorry, you feel compelled to pick people up on their grammar and at the same time you mispronounce the letter H?
Here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11642588), and here (http://www.anu.edu.au/ANDC/pubs/ozwords/June_98/2._aitch.htm) might help.
An doesn't precede a word starting with a vowel, it precedes a word that sounds like it starts with a vowel. eg an hour.
So it depends on how you say HD. I would say an HD or a High Definition. AFAIK that's what queens English says too.
Riveting story, chap.
"An HD Tremulous..." is actually correct, though arguing over an or a really shouldn't happen. See http://www.dailywritingtips.com/when-to-use-an/ (http://www.dailywritingtips.com/when-to-use-an/) for some instructions, specifically the section on "Which indefinite article to use before an abbreviation, a numeral, or a symbol, depends upon pronunciation." You'll notice, because "HD" is pronounced one letter at a time, and the letter 'h' is pronounced with a hard a at the beginning (In almost all dialects of English, the name for the letter is pronounced /ˈeɪtʃ/ and spelled ‹aitch›[1] or occasionally ‹eitch›. The pronunciation /ˈheɪtʃ/ and hence a spelling of ‹haitch› is often considered to be h-adding and hence nonstandard), or in IPA, /ˈeɪtʃ/ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H), the word 'an' should be used, not 'a'. Thanks for listening guys. Shouldn't be a big deal. ;)
Quote from: mooseberry on November 30, 2010, 02:24:42 AM
"An HD Tremulous..." is actually correct, though arguing over an or a really shouldn't happen. See http://www.dailywritingtips.com/when-to-use-an/ (http://www.dailywritingtips.com/when-to-use-an/) for some instructions, specifically the section on "Which indefinite article to use before an abbreviation, a numeral, or a symbol, depends upon pronunciation." You'll notice, because "HD" is pronounced one letter at a time, and the letter 'h' is pronounced with a hard a at the beginning (In almost all dialects of English, the name for the letter is pronounced /ˈeɪtʃ/ and spelled ‹aitch›[1] or occasionally ‹eitch›. The pronunciation /ˈheɪtʃ/ and hence a spelling of ‹haitch› is often considered to be h-adding and hence nonstandard), or in IPA, /ˈeɪtʃ/ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H), the word 'an' should be used, not 'a'. Thanks for listening guys. Shouldn't be a big deal. ;)
Exactly. It depends on how you pronounce HD, and it looks like there are three ways:
-Pronouncing "HD" as one word... maybe something like "h'd"?
-Actually saying "high definition" each time, which makes you sound like a tool.
-Spelling it out: "H-D", which, as per Moose's link, would mean "an HD".
Now that this is over, can we get back to more important things, like
flaming each other the Great Engine Debate?
http://www.grammar-monster.com/lessons/an_or_a.htm
Quote from: Aviator on November 30, 2010, 06:53:49 AM
http://www.grammar-monster.com/lessons/an_or_a.htm
Thanks, but the party was last week.
:o you lot will argue about anything...
Quote from: Aviator on November 30, 2010, 06:53:49 AM
http://www.grammar-monster.com/lessons/an_or_a.htm
Got 5/5 from the test \o/
Quote from: Pazuzu on November 30, 2010, 06:25:02 AM
Exactly. It depends on how you pronounce HD, and it looks like there are three ways:
-Pronouncing "HD" as one word... maybe something like "h'd"?
-Actually saying "high definition" each time, which makes you sound like a tool.
-Spelling it out: "H-D", which, as per Moose's link, would mean "an HD".
Now that this is over, can we get back to more important things, like flaming each other the Great Engine Debate?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srVNHEvv6rc
Hmm. I'm not entirely sure what CoH did here. Was it an "auto-backtroll"? Possibly it was a "ran over by my own pwndozer". Whatever the case, the little jagged green line was drawn in the wrong place.
Quote from: Taiyo.uk on December 02, 2010, 12:16:06 AM
Hmm. I'm not entirely sure what CoH did here. Was it an "auto-backtroll"? Possibly it was a "ran over by my own pwndozer". Whatever the case, the little jagged green line was drawn in the wrong place.
I have successfully isolated someone being intolerant of other people's cultures. They are saying that my pronunciation of a letter, while accepted elsewhere, is wrong.
Since this thread was split in a slightly confusing way i'll add a couple of quotes to clarify.
Quote from: freezway on November 28, 2010, 11:15:51 PM
It seems there has been a lot of hoopla recently about an "HD tremulous".
Quote from: CreatureofHell on November 28, 2010, 11:18:15 PM
A* HD Tremulous
Quote from: CreatureofHell on December 02, 2010, 04:24:59 PM
Quote from: Taiyo.uk on December 02, 2010, 12:16:06 AM
Hmm. I'm not entirely sure what CoH did here. Was it an "auto-backtroll"? Possibly it was a "ran over by my own pwndozer". Whatever the case, the little jagged green line was drawn in the wrong place.
I have successfully isolated someone being intolerant of other people's cultures. They are saying that my pronunciation of a letter, while accepted elsewhere, is wrong.
Weren't you being intolerant in the first place, implying another person's pronounciation of a letter was wrong?
Quote from: Meisseli on December 03, 2010, 12:15:01 AM
Quote from: CreatureofHell on December 02, 2010, 04:24:59 PM
Quote from: Taiyo.uk on December 02, 2010, 12:16:06 AM
Hmm. I'm not entirely sure what CoH did here. Was it an "auto-backtroll"? Possibly it was a "ran over by my own pwndozer". Whatever the case, the little jagged green line was drawn in the wrong place.
I have successfully isolated someone being intolerant of other people's cultures. They are saying that my pronunciation of a letter, while accepted elsewhere, is wrong.
Weren't you being intolerant in the first place, implying another person's pronounciation of a letter was wrong?
Notice how I neglected using proper by the word pronunciation:
Quote from: CreatureofHell on November 29, 2010, 10:01:14 PM
That's because it's "a haitch-dee tremulous". With this pronunciation and proper grammar it fits perfectly.
Quote from: CreatureofHell on December 03, 2010, 05:27:00 PM
Notice how I neglected using proper by the word pronunciation:
Now I'm having trouble making any sense of you at all.