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Title: gibs?
Post by: gareth on August 05, 2006, 07:00:17 pm

Wher do you think about gibs for aliens/humans when they die particlualy violently?

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Post by: rasz_pl on August 05, 2006, 07:10:36 pm

I want to hack the gibson

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Post by: Taiyo.uk on August 05, 2006, 07:32:48 pm

Yes, I'd like trem to have gibs, gore, entrails, internal organs, decapitation, dismemberment, disembowelment and oodles of blood splats everywhere.

BUT, they should be optional, perhaps configurable so the individual players can select which gore featuers they want, e.g. on/off options for blood splat decals, gibs, ragdoll (is that possible in trem?), dismemberment, etc...

Just my £0.02

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Post by: Odin on August 05, 2006, 08:45:16 pm

The new Tremulous slogan:

POINT AND CLICK TO INDUCE BLOOD/GORE!

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Post by: Lava Croft on August 05, 2006, 08:58:54 pm

Gibs = Lag

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Post by: vcxzet on August 05, 2006, 09:03:01 pm

I want skeletal model format (.md5 dunno) So you can cut body parts :D. plus more accurate damage calculations.
I also want a physics engine like ODE to be implemented. wait... physics  engines are not fps friendly :(

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Post by: kevlarman on August 05, 2006, 09:15:09 pm

Quote from: "Lava Croft"

Gibs = Lag

one of the things i like about tremulous is it will run on almost any hardware and be playable (unless the aliens decide to abuse the particle engine, then no attacking for me) and it should stay that way.

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Post by: PHREAK on August 05, 2006, 10:25:43 pm

Gibs would have to be really low polly not to cause lag issues.
And we all know how shitty low polly gibs look, sooooo......NO.

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Post by: Stof on August 05, 2006, 10:53:08 pm

Quote from: "PHREAK"

Gibs would have to be really low polly not to cause lag issues.
And we all know how shitty low polly gibs look, sooooo......NO.

Why do you say that ? Modern graphic cards can easily manage a ton of 20000 poly bones animated models around,  not counting cards from 3 generation back. You can probably find someone to draw a few decent 1000 poly gibs and still get a lot of GPU power. Besides, those who want every inch of performance will probably be able to disable them in the option menu.


It was quite fun going through the gibs list of Unreal 1 and seeing brains, livers, hearths, severed blody heads, arms ... :wink:

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Post by: Taiyo.uk on August 06, 2006, 01:03:44 am

Quote from: "Lava Croft"

Gibs = Lag

Why not make them client side since they're purely visual aspects of the game. So then the server only needs to send simple messages such as "spawn x gibs at position y with velocity z" and the client does the rest. I can't imagine that'd consume sufficient bandwith to cause a significant increase in lag.

Furthermore, when a player disables gibs then perhaps this could also tell the server not to send any more gib related information. I've never investigated the source or network protocol of trem/Q3 so perhaps this might not even be a practical solution. I'm just yearning for gibs.

While on the subject of gibbage, has anyone made a scientist in half-life stand under a fire door then pressed the button to close it? Or bound "impluse 102" to their fire key? That's gibbage.

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Post by: Odin on August 06, 2006, 01:47:31 am

Have any of you forgotten that human buildings create gibs?

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Post by: rasz_pl on August 06, 2006, 02:04:21 am

Quote from: "Odin"

Have any of you forgotten that human buildings create gibs?

and every time one blows up i got 5FPS ....

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Post by: Azzello on August 06, 2006, 02:34:05 am

5FPS? Well thats why it ought to be optional just like every other game out there that has gibs/etc. As for causing lag, i doubt it, it'd just be client side(just like building gibs are already I'm guessing). Alien buildings also gib, but also leave decals on the walls where the gibby bits hit, so making players erupt into glorious fountains of gore can be done relatively easy afaict.


Edit: As I was writing I had this (great in my mind) idea. You know how alien building gibs cause damage (due to being powered by acid I presume)? Well damn it, a goon's dead body (or gibs ideally, if gibs were added)  should leak/spray acid around for a couple of seconds after death causing very minor damage to passing humans. Think Alien(s) eh?

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Post by: Taiyo.uk on August 06, 2006, 03:32:02 am

Quote from: "Azzello"

Edit: As I was writing I had this (great in my mind) idea. You know how alien building gibs cause damage (due to being powered by acid I presume)? Well damn it, a goon's dead body (or gibs ideally, if gibs were added)  should leak/spray acid around for a couple of seconds after death causing very minor damage to passing humans. Think Alien(s) eh?

Hmm, from S1 that would tip the balance towards the aliens. How about this only happens if the alien was boosted when it died? I'd like to see dead or dismembered alien bodies that spray acid blood though, that'd rock.

"...looks like they bagged one of ripley's bad guys here..."

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Post by: Odin on August 06, 2006, 03:56:23 am

Exploding Human structures create gibs, and particles. The particles are what lags you, not the gibs.

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Post by: Ksempac on August 06, 2006, 09:33:02 am

Quote from: "Lava Croft"

Gibs = Lag

+1 </lazy>

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Post by: jhaa on August 06, 2006, 06:24:52 pm

Missing option: I don't give a shit.

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Post by: Azzello on August 07, 2006, 02:56:04 am

Quote from: "Taiyo.uk"

Hmm, from S1 that would tip the balance towards the aliens. How about this only happens if the alien was boosted when it died? I'd like to see dead or dismembered alien bodies that spray acid blood though, that'd rock.

Yea, I have to agree it might favour the aliens a bit, just too bad it wasn't added in earlier. The boosted state sounds workable, but really I think most of us would be happy with just some flying gore. Simple Q2 style gibs or full blown dismemberment, I don't care. :) Not all of us have wimpy systems that crawl when stuff starts blowing up and it'd be a nice addition to Tremulous.

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Post by: Vector_Matt on August 07, 2006, 06:43:31 pm

Trem is a fine game, adding gore would make it lame.

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Post by: Stof on August 07, 2006, 06:45:17 pm

Quote from: "Vector_Matt"

Trem is a fine game, adding gore would make it lame.

Adding gore would make it *much* easier to make the difference between a live granger and a dead granger :P

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Post by: Vector_Matt on August 07, 2006, 06:59:09 pm

Quote from: "Stof"

Quote from: "Vector_Matt"

Trem is a fine game, adding gore would make it lame.

Adding gore would make it *much* easier to make the difference between a live granger and a dead granger :P

Look at the pose of the granger, with a smidgen of practice it's easy.

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Post by: Norfenstein on August 07, 2006, 10:26:43 pm

Quote from: "Lava Croft"

Gibs = Lag

Yea, 3d models too. What's wrong with 2d sprites??  :O

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Post by: tjw on August 07, 2006, 10:40:45 pm

Quote from: "Norfenstein"

Quote from: "Lava Croft"

Gibs = Lag

Yea, 3d models too. What's wrong with 2d sprites??  :O

buildable explosions should be replaced with...

(http://helium.lunarpages.com/~funky4/pictures/batman.JPG)

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Post by: Odin on August 07, 2006, 10:51:05 pm

Quote from: "tjw"

Quote from: "Norfenstein"

Quote from: "Lava Croft"

Gibs = Lag

Yea, 3d models too. What's wrong with 2d sprites??  :O

buildable explosions should be replaced with...

(http://helium.lunarpages.com/~funky4/pictures/batman.JPG)

I agree 100%!

No seriously, someone needs to make a mod that does this.

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Post by: Lava Croft on August 07, 2006, 11:51:48 pm

Quote from: "Norfenstein"

Quote from: "Lava Croft"

Gibs = Lag

Yea, 3d models too. What's wrong with 2d sprites??  :O

You want your gibs to be 2d sprites?

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Post by: SLAVE|Mietz on August 07, 2006, 11:56:46 pm

Quote from: "Lava Croft"

Quote from: "Norfenstein"

Quote from: "Lava Croft"

Gibs = Lag

Yea, 3d models too. What's wrong with 2d sprites??  :O

You want your gibs to be 2d sprites?

rofl, the engine already breakes on older machines due to granger-decals, make some more for gibs, breaks the engine even on my computer...

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Post by: Azzello on August 08, 2006, 03:27:46 am

Quote from: "SLAVE|Mietz"

rofl, the engine already breakes on older machines due to granger-decals, make some more for gibs, breaks the engine even on my computer...

Solution! Remove Granger spit, add Gibs/Blood decals! :P

I keed I keed!

Title: gibs?
Post by: SLAVE|Mietz on August 08, 2006, 07:52:02 am

Quote from: "Azzello"

Quote from: "SLAVE|Mietz"

rofl, the engine already breakes on older machines due to granger-decals, make some more for gibs, breaks the engine even on my computer...

Solution! Remove Granger spit, add Gibs/Blood decals! :P

I keed I keed!

Internet killed the video star....