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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: David on August 06, 2006, 02:36:04 pm
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Please dont flame the windows people.
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Windows XP unfortunatly.
But only cause;
1) My modem is a bugger to set up on Linux.
2) Its a shared computer so I cant really tinker with it without being shouted at.
But all that will change in about 5 months time :D :D :D .
Ubuntu here I come!
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I only use the best OS of course.
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I ticked Linux, but I am using both windows & linux ...
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Go Mac OSX... I hope I'm not too horribly outnumbered on this forum, time will tell
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I play it on Debian (Testing) Etch and Ubuntu Dapper Drake. It's nice to have more native Linux games!
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Ubuntu Dapper.
"Linux" isn't an OS.
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Server : debian linux-like (ubuntu server)
Client : windowsxp
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Yeah, I use windows as well.
Mine is also a shared computer, but the main reason I haven't switched is because most of my games and most of my programs aren't compatible with linux or whatever you want to call it.
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one more vote for dapper.
"Linux" isn't an OS.
he's right, that should say GNU/Linux
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Windows... but just because I am a game addict... ;)
I love gentoo, but cedega sadly is a piece of s**t. They do some great stuff but performance is usually bad and you have to pay every single month.
Now, pay 85€ once and you got your WinXP home license, can use alot of stuff from sourceforge as well and play any games you want...
Was it not for gaming I would be running just a gentoo box at home, have no other choice than Windows at work and just use linux on some servers.
Take the best of all worlds, I say. I would even love to have a Mac to play around a bit... ;)
Danny
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Yet another vote for Dapper :)
Guess i'm not the only one that read the Tremulous anouncing thread on Ubuntu-forums, seems to have brought in a lot of people!
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Yet another vote for Dapper :)
Guess i'm not the only one that read the Tremulous anouncing thread on Ubuntu-forums, seems to have brought in a lot of people!
actually i saw tremulous on sourceforge. ubuntu is just a popular distro, and when it came time to reformat my f'ed up fc2 partition, i had narrowed things down to gentoo (i decided against it because of lack of cpu/ram), debian (i was turned off by the age of some of the packages), and ubuntu. i may try debian in the future, but i am extremely happy with ubuntu..
edit: one thing that should bring in a lot of people is tremulous making it into debian unstable and ubuntu edgy, though unfortunately it is stuck in the non-free repositories.
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Anyone who thinks windows sucks is a noob. It may not be the best, but it's not shit (aimed at anyone who despises Windows).
EDIT: BTW, I vote Windows... Like that wasn't obvious.
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Re: Window isn't shit.
It's not shit in the first several months, but as virii, spyware, etc. pile on, it gets there. Then you have to reformat. And yeah, blah, blah, if you're an expert with windows you can do blah blah, and put your stuff on separate partition, and make a backup of your registry, blah, blah, only takes a day to fix it, blah, blah. Linux. And yes, I know, that if you're in a very air-tight situation, then Windows can be very stable and good.
However, I do think that once Linux has games, Windows has nothing over Linux.
Also on Ubuntu Dapper Drake (for months now, was on testing).
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It's not shit in the first several months, but as virii, spyware, etc. pile on, it gets there. Then you have to reformat.
No. If you are not surfing the net blindly, use a router and decent antivirussoftware, you don't have these problems.
Any software is just as safe as the person using it is able to keep it safe. If GNU/Linux was as spread on desktops as Windows is, there would be as many Viruses for GNU/Linux as there are for Win as there would be as many Scriptkiddies at work on that platform.
Just running anything different from mainstream is not making it safe, just more unlikely to be hacked.
Oh and BTW, I only reinstall when getting new hardware. My last Windows 2000 installation survived a bit more than three years without being infected once. Just stay aways from pr0n, h4cks, s3rialz and such, easy as this.
Danny
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Gentoo GNU/Linux for t3h win!
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omg, staying away from pr0n? are you seriouz? its almost the only thing i do!!!
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Windows CAN be very stable, IF you knwo what you are doing. I used to have it runing very nicley, but it took many (hundreds?) or hours each time i reformated (approx each year).
had to change thouseds of settings, install new shells, edit protected system files etc.
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Windows CAN be very stable, IF you knwo what you are doing. I used to have it runing very nicley, but it took many (hundreds?) or hours each time i reformated (approx each year).
had to change thouseds of settings, install new shells, edit protected system files etc.
lol? i can reformat my drive in approx. 24h just make backups and use some recovery-toys (and no, i'm not talking about Norton stuff)
Some statistics from one month of my webcomic, i think they show pretty much the community:
(http://user.uni-frankfurt.de/~adamkiew/Pics/1.jpg)
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I was a Windows 2000 user. And I whas happy. But then my DNS client break, and I was unable to fix it. The only solution whas to reinstall Windows. But that options seems loong with Windows2000, because theres like 4 service packs, and whatnot patchs. I tried Linux, and I am now a happy linux user. Of course, some of my games now not work (HL2 and BF2) but I have found others that work ( webgames, Tremulous, etc ). I can switch back to Windows, and some of my friends ask me to do that (to play Dungeon and Dragons online and meet there ) but nowdays Windows seems less friendly everyday. I have trid the WGA think on some computers at work (trough VMWARE) and is a horrible hell I want to stay away.
And now the DirectX 10 is a Vista only thing. So some newer games will need Vista. And Vista seems a ripoff of Mac OS/X, but slow. Even If I like Windows Gamming somewhat, I dont want to suffer from the slow death windows gammer will suffer from the next years. Will be painfull, and I have quit soon enough to avoid the crap enterilly. I hope more games will support linux, and more games like nexuiz and trem start, so gamming on Linux become as intense and interesting as whas once on Windows.
update:
a few typos fixed
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its "was" and "tried", its incredibly irritating to read your posts.
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And now the DirectX 10 is a Vista only thing. So some newer games will need Vista. And Vista seems a ripoff of Mac OS/X, but slow. Even If I like Windows Gamming somewhat, I dont want to suffer from the slow death windows gammer will suffer from the next years. Will be painfull, and I have quit soon enough to avoid the crap enterilly. I hope more games will support linux, and more games like nexuiz and trem start, so gamming on Linux become as intense and interesting as whas once on Windows.
It'll take quite some time before Vista has a big enouth install before game makers will even *consider* using DirectX 10, no matter how good it is.
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And now the DirectX 10 is a Vista only thing. So some newer games will need Vista. And Vista seems a ripoff of Mac OS/X, but slow. Even If I like Windows Gamming somewhat, I dont want to suffer from the slow death windows gammer will suffer from the next years. Will be painfull, and I have quit soon enough to avoid the crap enterilly. I hope more games will support linux, and more games like nexuiz and trem start, so gamming on Linux become as intense and interesting as whas once on Windows.
It'll take quite some time before Vista has a big enouth install before game makers will even *consider* using DirectX 10, no matter how good it is.
you're right, it will be a while, i hear Duke Nukem Forever will be using it though (ignore me if you don't read /.)
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And now the DirectX 10 is a Vista only thing. So some newer games will need Vista. And Vista seems a ripoff of Mac OS/X, but slow. Even If I like Windows Gamming somewhat, I dont want to suffer from the slow death windows gammer will suffer from the next years. Will be painfull, and I have quit soon enough to avoid the crap enterilly. I hope more games will support linux, and more games like nexuiz and trem start, so gamming on Linux become as intense and interesting as whas once on Windows.
It'll take quite some time before Vista has a big enouth install before game makers will even *consider* using DirectX 10, no matter how good it is.
you're right, it will be a while, i hear Duke Nukem Forever will be using it though (ignore me if you don't read /.)
I do read /. and I don't understand what you mean. I would like to see where it was said that DNF will use DirectX 10 although I strongly suspect it's some kind of joke. Please include the appropriate smiley next time in that case :)
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I run Xubuntu (Xfce on Ubuntu). No bloated KDE or Gnome for me, but I still get the benefits of Ubuntu Linux. Tremulous runs awesome on it.
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And now the DirectX 10 is a Vista only thing. So some newer games will need Vista. And Vista seems a ripoff of Mac OS/X, but slow. Even If I like Windows Gamming somewhat, I dont want to suffer from the slow death windows gammer will suffer from the next years. Will be painfull, and I have quit soon enough to avoid the crap enterilly. I hope more games will support linux, and more games like nexuiz and trem start, so gamming on Linux become as intense and interesting as whas once on Windows.
It'll take quite some time before Vista has a big enouth install before game makers will even *consider* using DirectX 10, no matter how good it is.
you're right, it will be a while, i hear Duke Nukem Forever will be using it though (ignore me if you don't read /.)
I do read /. and I don't understand what you mean. I would like to see where it was said that DNF will use DirectX 10 although I strongly suspect it's some kind of joke. Please include the appropriate smiley next time in that case :)
That is a common joke amongst gaming/software circles. Comparing or associating anything with DNF is the equivalent of saying that it'll take quite a bit before it happens.
That being said, I heard DNF will fully use DirectX 27 to it's max potential. :wink:
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Anyone who thinks windows sucks is a noob. It may not be the best, but it's not shit (aimed at anyone who despises Windows).
EDIT: BTW, I vote Windows... Like that wasn't obvious.
I hate Windows. I think it sucks. Sorry kids, I'm not a n00b.
Sure, WinXP is finally decently stable, but I've got two major gripes for it.
(1) The interface is obnoxious. Sorry, it's all WIMP, with annoying pop-up bubbles that always seem to jump up in front of what I'm looking to click on. To boot, the command line interface is a joke. Getting something more advanced or more powerful interface-wise is way too much trouble.
(2) No real programming environment by default. I either have to pay though the nose (MS Visual Studio) or go download a ton of stuff (any of the Open Source tools). Any Linux distro worth running includes compilers and interpreters for any programming language I would want to use (this statement implicitely excludes Java ;) ).
The two criticisms above are intimately related to my personal usage patterns. Linux and Unix operating systems happen to be spot on for what I do with computers, warts and all. I also happen to like powerful, user-unfriendly interfaces (vim, bash and sed). I'm willing to put the time in to learn them, if they are well built. I'm not against userfriendly interfaces, they just have to scale with user ability--if it still treats me with kid-gloves, even after I know inside and out, I won't use it. For the record, I use KDE on my desktop.
I also don't think there is a "best" OS. You use the right tool for the job. Whatever that happens to be.
What I voted for is left as an exercise for the reader. Correct answer is upside down in my .sig if you can't take it any more.
Jeff
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I play on windows ME. :( Not by choice.
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Gentoo here.
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Used to dual-boot Suse and WinXP, but i needed the harddrive space for a project (photoshop cache mostly..) and poof, Suse was gone :(
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Windows. Bah.
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The poll results are not very accurate atm. Timbo has stats on client versions making requests to the master server to get the server list. As of today, OS usage breaks down like this:
78.2% - win32
17.1% - linux
4.7% - mac
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WinXP. I have tried Linux, and it crashed 5 times in 30 minutes (:evil:!!!:evil:) in Kubuntu.
That, and that I'd have to take the time to learn both a new GUI and the Command Line, (Which I'm told you need to know how to use in order tto properly run Linux) tell me that it would take too much time I don't have to learn how to use GNU/Linux.
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Windows, with pleasure. Works fine, and I don't have to go to #tremulous on IRC to ask about how to run Tremulous because my free OS is crippled.
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Ubuntu here.. its just nice :) Why do I use GNU/Linux? because I can do whatever I like to do, I got freedom..
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The poll results are not very accurate atm. Timbo has stats on client versions making requests to the master server to get the server list. As of today, OS usage breaks down like this:
78.2% - win32
17.1% - linux
4.7% - mac
my statistics are quite the same :)
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Ubuntu :
(http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/9494/screenshothn9.th.png) (http://img112.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshothn9.png)
what more human would want?
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Ubuntu :
(http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/9494/screenshothn9.th.png) (http://img112.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshothn9.png)
what more human would want?
other than a stable version of e17? not much.
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What I tend to use most on my computer at the moment is Fedora 5, with win XP sitting around, taking up space in case I want to play certain games without difficulty.
I'm not one of the "GNU/Linux is perfection, windoze is a complete waste which has no good use" people, windows has it's place and uses. But it's insecurities aren't just due to it's 'popularity', it also has major faults. As I remember, large amounts of it's kernel or something is written in a old languege which cripples it in various ways. Also, the current windows OSs deal badly with multiple users, has some things designed in bad ways (your desktop files are located in something like Desktop\My Computer\C:\My Documents\_user_\desktop\, compared to things like /home/_user_/Desktop/; could also mention security and other stuff, but that will do as a quick example).
When I start booting windows, I am greeted with an image that has a little bar going from one side to the other (not much to say, really). When I boot Fedora, I see a nice little box in the middle of the screen with a bar which gradually progresses across as the booting proccess goes along, there is also a bit of text which tells me what it is working on at the moment (detecting new hardware, starting networking...), if I want to, I can click on the small triangle next to the progress line and see more detail of what is happening, I can also press a button and manually chose what is (and isn't) started (that was a long sentence...).
GNU/Linux might not be the best operating system, it might not suit everyone, it might have some problems, but at least it isn't OS2.
(:P;))
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The poll results are not very accurate atm. Timbo has stats on client versions making requests to the master server to get the server list. As of today, OS usage breaks down like this:
78.2% - win32
17.1% - linux
4.7% - mac
your stats show all game players, this poll only shows fourm users.
from this we can conclude that linux people are more likley to use the fourms and assocated resources, and therefore and more inteligent.
:dretch: the windows users!!
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Windows duh
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SuSE for me :wink:
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your stats show all game players, this poll only shows fourm users.
from this we can conclude that linux people are more likley to use the fourms and assocated resources, and therefore and more inteligent.
:dretch: the windows users!!
No only that but:
Linux Tramulous 5x bettar than Windlows Tramulous (http://www.tremulous.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1545) :trapper:
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Where is GEOS on top of C64 basic?
:O
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When I read the posts in this thread I felt like I was on "which os is the best" forum, but the topic of this thread is "Waht OS you play on?" :evil:
I play on Linux (debian etch testing) - tremulous works great for me as the etch is getting more and more stable ;)
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Mac OS X PPC here
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Windows XP.. because windows doesn't suck as bad if you actually know how to use it.
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Gentoo GNU/Linux for t3h win!
Yeah! 8)
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Sourcemage GNU/Linux, FreeBSD.. My main computer runs on Sourcemage GNU/Linux due to no hardware support for my chipset yet. A secondary computer that I don't usually game on runs FreeBSD.
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Ubuntu for me :)
And about windows security:
I don't know if it's still the "death link" it was, but " a ltav ista.b ox .sk" (with spaces to protect the n00bs) used to crash people even with up to date antivirus and security patches.
FOR YOUR COMPUTER'S SAFETY, AND FOR THE LOVE OF A DEITY OF YOUR CHOICE DO NOT GO THERE UNLESS YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE YOUR ENTIRE WINDOWS INSTALL.
(That isn't to say it will crash your computer, but I'd hate to be responsible for it)
I will remove the address if asked.
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You shouldn't go to that site you nasty pirate!!! ;P
... i've been there tons of times.. never crashed me yet.
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Why chose?
I run Mac OS X on my workstation (photography, design, etc)
I got a dualboot GNU/Linux (debian unstable for now) and heavily tweaked XP.
All get the same amount of use for specific purposes.
If you have ever used OSX, you know that it's as close to perfection as it gets. Reason being is that everything works like it should all the time.
When that gets boring for me, I tweak XP or learn debian.
So why chose when you can have the best of all worlds?!
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You shouldn't go to that site you nasty pirate!!! ;P
... i've been there tons of times.. never crashed me yet.
Well I don't go to it, except to prove it doesn't crash my computer.
Evidently it isn't as deadly as it once was.
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Windows FTW! All the games.
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Linux, MacOS X, and FreeBSD
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Please dont flame the windows people.
Screw that, TIME TO WAFT THE FLAMES OF A FLAMEWAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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edited: win
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OSX
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Windows r own.
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Windows XP.
Not my computer, so even if I actually wanted to switch, I couldn't.
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Windows vista and i don't understand why people hate it >.>.
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I use OSX, as one can tell by my sig.
Getting myself one of those Mac Pr0s soon !
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In the end Mac wins because it's the only one of the three that can - easily - run both the others. I dualboot OSX and WinXP (even though I never actually use winxp because I can't stand it) and once installed ubuntu on an iMac with little difficulty, although admittedly it did suck because no airport drivers and no ppc graphics drivers.
So, yeah. Get an intel iMac, replace the wireless network card (or plug it in to the ethernets), then install all three and be happy.
Problem: solved.
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mmm, apple... tasty...
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Windows vista and i don't understand why people hate it >.>.
because it needs a 3 ghz processor and modern graphics card for visual effects that linux and osx have been doing for years on 850mhz processors and geforce 2 era video cards?
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Windows vista and i don't understand why people hate it >.>.
because it needs a 3 ghz processor and modern graphics card for visual effects that linux and osx have been doing for years on 850mhz processors and geforce 2 era video cards?
Microsoft is also getting very desperate. A whole huge lotta things are stolen from Os X. (don't know 'bout linux 'cause i dun't use one, nor know anyone who does)
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(don't know 'bout linux 'cause i dun't use one, nor know anyone who does)
we beryl/compiz is a ripoff of expose, but unlike microsoft, the linux crowd never claimed otherwise.
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Windows vista and i don't understand why people hate it >.>.
because it needs a 3 ghz processor and modern graphics card for visual effects that linux and osx have been doing for years on 850mhz processors and geforce 2 era video cards?
:roll:
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Windows vista and i don't understand why people hate it >.>.
because it needs a 3 ghz processor and modern graphics card for visual effects that linux and osx have been doing for years on 850mhz processors and geforce 2 era video cards?
:roll:
:cry:
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In the end Mac wins because it's the only one of the three that can - easily - run both the others. I dualboot OSX and WinXP (even though I never actually use winxp because I can't stand it) and once installed ubuntu on an iMac with little difficulty, although admittedly it did suck because no airport drivers and no ppc graphics drivers.
So, yeah. Get an intel iMac, replace the wireless network card (or plug it in to the ethernets), then install all three and be happy.
Problem: solved.
Oh realy?
I run FreeBSD, Plan 9, Win2K SP4, ReactOS, and OS X Tiger (license is legal) on my homebrew AMD desktop. It was pretty easy to setup.
http://wiki.osx86project.org/
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Oh realy?
I run FreeBSD, Plan 9, Win2K SP4, ReactOS, and OS X Tiger (license is legal) on my homebrew AMD desktop. It was pretty easy to setup.
http://wiki.osx86project.org/
Meh, never tried it myself, but I know someone who found it difficult.
I'll be interested in giving that a go, though, because I'm pretty sure a third of the price of an iMac goes to the privelige of allowing you to run the OS. If that process ever becomes *easy* then sales of Apple's official machines are going to take a hit. And so are their prices ^_^
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Plan 9
<3
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Plan 9
<3
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Glenda is teh coolest bunni and OS mascot ever.
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I use arch linux
I would never use something as bug filled and inferior as windows.
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I also don't think there is a "best" OS. You use the right tool for the job. Whatever that happens to be.
I agree.
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I also don't think there is a "best" OS. You use the right tool for the job. Whatever that happens to be.
I agree.
Agweed.
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I use the two.
Windows and Linux.