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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: dormedas on August 06, 2006, 07:19:01 pm
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I think there should be some sort of advanced dretch since there is an advanced almost everything in the game.
Ideas: (A compilation of all Ideas and suggestions)
Night Vision Dretch :dretch:
Darker Colored Dretch :dretch:
The two listed above could mix to become the Adv. Dretch. :dretch:
Dretch has 10 more HP
Runs a little slower
[Off Subject but relevant]Adv. Rifle Ideas???:
A little more damage :helmet:
Slightly larger magazine :helmet:
Faster ROF
Alternatively to an ADV. Rifle, a pack that aids your rifle, such as advanced clips upgrade for 100 Creds, that extends your clip, advanced ROF upgrade for 150 creds etc.
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adv dretch :: headcrab
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adv, dretch = poo
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Aren't we feeling mature today?
Any *better* ideas, or better *discussion*...?
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night vision dretch would be pointless as there are no pitch black map areas
the game is balanced
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adv dretch has been brought up half a dozen times. It likely ain't happening.
In all truth, everything described thus far as 'adv dretch discussion' is summed up in the existing class: basilisk.
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adv dretch = face hugger from alien. headshot = instadeath for both players.
dretch needs a really long tounge :roll:
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ADV. dretch same size as a balistik but abel to fly and shoot a acid ball out of its mouth but abel to bite harder take more damage away and is black whit red stripe on belly kinda like a black widow and has 75 hp :dretch: :dretch: :basilisk: :basilisk: i think it was a good sum of every thing u guys have said.... :D
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ADV. dretch same size as a balistik but abel to fly and shoot a acid ball out of its mouth but abel to bite harder take more damage away and is black whit red stripe on belly kinda like a black widow and has 75 hp :dretch: :dretch: :basilisk: :basilisk: i think it was a good sum of every thing u guys have said.... :D
Uhh, no.
And.. what is a balistik? Ballistic may be a cool word, but i've never heard of one in trem >_>.
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Uh, no.
The lisk is the adv dretch.
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K, well if the Basilisk is the adv. Dretch then why is there an Adv. Adv. Dretch, eh?
And the Basilisk being the Adv. Dretch doesn't make sense since
Dretch
Basilisk <<Not same model
Adv. Basilisk <<Same model
Marauder'
Adv. Marauder <<Same Model Different Texture
Dragoon
Adv. Dragoon <<Same Model Different Texture
Tyrant
Granger
Adv. Granger <<Same Model(I think)
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Dretch is the advanced dretch...
If your looking to have an advanced everything.. just retexture it and give it a little more health. It doesn't need anything else.. its already a super killing machine.
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Do you know how powerful a dretch is because you don't need to bite?
ONLY thing you worry about is movement, the game does the rest by biting automaticly.
You don't have to try to get the jump and (click to make the dretch) bite synchronous to get the max effect..
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Aliens: Advanced Dretch, available in s3, has 35 hp
Humans: Spawn with free light armour, cannot be sold, light armour removed from armoury buy list (obviously)
There we go, two small improvements to give late joiners more of a chance, without directly improving their attack power. So, all it's doing is giving them a chance to survive a liiiittle bit longer, to get that extra kill so they can evo.
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Humans: Spawn with free light armour, cannot be sold, light armour removed from armoury buy list (obviously)
Tell me, how do humans get b-suits after this if they can't sell their light armour?
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What amuses me is how he thinks light armor is equal to 10 hitpoints.
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lol adv. doesnt seem like too much of a good idea though
theres nothing wrong with the dretch now
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What amuses me is how he thinks light armor is equal to 10 hitpoints.
Forgive me for not being able to accurately balance my idea, it's kind of hard when it's only in your head and isn't being playtested in the game. Besides, armour doesn't protect the head so you're still at 4hp if a dretch bites you there, which isn't too hard. Maybe 40 hp then? Any more than that and it's just a basi.
Anyway, the idea is to give the free units, excluding builders, a bit more defense/hp so they can survive a little longer. And Oz, good point, didn't think of that >_> Now I'm not too sure how a free armour system would work, since it'd be tough finding a plausible way to prevent other weapons being used with it. But armour seems like the best way to do it, since improving the rifle itself would cause bigger issues imo (I mean, it's already 2 or 3 bullet kill on dretches, 1 or 2 bullet would be pretty cheap)
Hmm... I mean, you could change light armour's name to "medium armour" and then in s3 change the Rifle to "Rifle + light armour" (weaker than current light armour), but these changes would make people stay rifle/dretch to earn creds instead of taking a risk and buying one of the cheaper weps/evos first. Only alternative I'd thought of was to have late joiners get a few free creds/EP when they join, but I'm guessing there would be easy ways to abuse that.
lol, I like how the entire direction of this post went from "how my idea should be tweaked" to "my idea would be hard to implement" to "my idea sucks" to "other ideas". o_O I do that sometimes.
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Your way off. Rifle does 5pts of damage per bullet and thus needs 5 hits to kill a Dretch.
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adv dretch is not needed dretch is the basic alien just as rifle is basic
u can go adv everything in the game adv tyrants(they cant advance either)
oh but to fight the adv tyrant u need adv batllesuit and adv lucys
oh but they got adv lucys i need to build adv eggs so they dont blow up in one shot oh nooooo i must have adv everything
game is balanced like it is
the fact aliens mostly rock hummies ass is because of the players playing alien
:roll:
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I think I've got the perfect idea for an Adv Dretch. After all, what is the most important thing for a dretch ? It's its fast speed that makes it hard to hit. Thinking about that, the solution is evident ! The Adv Dretch should be x1000 faster than a Dretch ! Think of all the implications ! This is the perfect solution.
( but please, make it optional, I prefet to keep my regular Dretch myself ;) )
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improving the rifle itself would cause bigger issues imo
when i first saw this idea my first thought was dretches get 10 more hp, humans get 10 more ammo/clip in the rifle.
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improving the rifle itself would cause bigger issues imo
when i first saw this idea my first thought was dretches get 10 more hp, humans get 10 more ammo/clip in the rifle.
hmm..... seems fair enough I guess.
And my bad, just checked up on the stats thread, it IS 5 damage per bullet.. But I could swear I usually go from 25 to 15 hp, I guess it's just easy for 2 bullets to hit in a row
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Adv. Dretch?
Silly idea.
Adv. Tyrant = Beautiful
It would essential be a 2 tonne bomb that pretty much sits there until you press left mouse button.. killing everything, wiping the map clean, breaking your monitor and obliterating large portion of Canada.
Pros - fun to try out
Cons- Canada might not like it...
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and yeah.. Adv. Dretch = Basilisk :P
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Adv. Dretch should have a mini rocket launcher on it's side, like Jame Bond's car.
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Not that i want to interfere with others topics, but what about an
advanced- flying-exploding-headbutting-dretch?
It would blow the head of human players when landing close to it.
Such adv.dretch could be nicknamed Zizou or.... not.
/me goes out.
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(http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/196/imgmo0.jpg)
Can somebody explain this sig to me? :eek:
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Adv. Dretch?
Silly idea.
Adv. Tyrant = Beautiful
It would essential be a 2 tonne bomb that pretty much sits there until you press left mouse button.. killing everything, wiping the map clean, breaking your monitor and obliterating large portion of Canada.
Pros - fun to try out
Cons- Canada might not like it...
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and yeah.. Adv. Dretch = Basilisk :P
Go ahead, try it. You'll realise that not only do we have explosive firepower that noone knew we had, but we also won't hesitate to use them.
*American uses adv Tyrant*
*Nukes get launched towards every major american city*
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Adv. Dretch?
Silly idea.
Adv. Tyrant = Beautiful
It would essential be a 2 tonne bomb that pretty much sits there until you press left mouse button.. killing everything, wiping the map clean, breaking your monitor and obliterating large portion of Canada.
Pros - fun to try out
Cons- Canada might not like it...
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and yeah.. Adv. Dretch = Basilisk :P
Go ahead, try it. You'll realise that not only do we have explosive firepower that noone knew we had, but we also won't hesitate to use them.
*American uses adv Tyrant*
*Nukes get launched towards every major american city*
:O An American using MY designs?!?
Those American DASTARDS!!
(I'm from england babeh :wink: )
P.S. I Like Canada and the Canadians I know aren't half-bad (my own daddy for example)
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P.S. I Like Canada and the Canadians I know aren't half-bad (my own daddy for example)
We're basically a slightly less obese, rude, and warm U.S. :D And our politicians do nothing instead of doing the wrong things
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P.S. I Like Canada and the Canadians I know aren't half-bad (my own daddy for example)
We're basically a slightly less obese, rude, and warm U.S. :D And our politicians do nothing instead of doing the wrong things
=D
America would like to think that he's wearing Canada like some fancy hat. What he doesn't realise is that Canada is a rhino. A calm and friendly rhino that likes to sit on people's heads.
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Or a Whale! Whales are cool...
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A calm and friendly rhino that likes to sit on people's heads.
I lol'd.
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The best idea to come out of any of these adv. dretch threads is the dretch that can spit trapper blobs.
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The best idea to come out of any of these adv. dretch threads is the dretch that can spit trapper blobs.
Oooh nice. lol.
That probably would work. not that i'd say YES to it. i'd rather have it all kept how it was. if anything, the adv. dretch should be just 10 more HP or something... :P
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adv. dretches need to shout fier, as well as having spider sense and spider web abilities, but we can't call them spider abilities because they are aliens and clearly not spiders. Instead we will call them SUPERFLUOUS EVASION and SUPER SEMEN STICKY GOO. The adv. dretch will also only have 1 hp but 1000 units of armor that way if you get an emp blast you can knock out all the armor but if you shoot it, it will be invincible. Also, the adv. dretch should have a subterranean burrowing capabilites to pop out like trap door spiders. And finally adv. dretches should have thermo nuclear devices attached on their backs, that way when they die it'll kill everyone on the map and end the game.
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Adv. Dretch?
Silly idea.
Adv. Tyrant = Beautiful
It would essential be a 2 tonne bomb that pretty much sits there until you press left mouse button.. killing everything, wiping the map clean, breaking your monitor and obliterating large portion of Canada.
Pros - fun to try out
Cons- Canada might not like it...
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and yeah.. Adv. Dretch = Basilisk :P
Go ahead, try it. You'll realise that not only do we have explosive firepower that noone knew we had, but we also won't hesitate to use them.
*American uses adv Tyrant*
*Nukes get launched towards every major american city*
:O An American using MY designs?!?
Those American DASTARDS!!
(I'm from england babeh :wink: )
P.S. I Like Canada and the Canadians I know aren't half-bad (my own daddy for example)
And finally adv. dretches should have thermo nuclear devices attached on their backs, that way when they die it'll kill everyone on the map and end the game.
So YOU are the American who stole my Adv. Tyrants designs! :evil:
...either that or I'm... =O Not original! D:
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The best idea to come out of any of these adv. dretch threads is the dretch that can spit trapper blobs.
where are you :(
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What about an adv. dretch with 25 hp, same size, brighter color, cost 1 evo, a pounce like goons but not doing any special damage, and exploding at death like the om? :D
If there is an adv.dretch, it needs a special ability--adv. basi gets gas, adv. mara gets zap, adv. goon gets snipe, adv. granger gets attacks--in addition to possibly being made bigger and/or getting more hp.
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the balance mod gives bile dretch
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What amuses me is how he thinks light armor is equal to 10 hitpoints.
let me quote the manual:
"Light Armour grants the wearer improved defense to the torso and leg areas."
so unless he spent the last ten months playing or readed the numbers on the source, there's not much to amuse anyone here
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What amuses me is how he thinks light armor is equal to 10 hitpoints.
let me quote the manual:
"Light Armour grants the wearer improved defense to the torso and leg areas."
so unless he spent the last ten months playing or readed the numbers on the source, there's not much to amuse anyone here
Yes, so headbites and swings make it reduntant therefore... I would consider it equal, if not slightly superior to +10hp on a dretch.
What a dretch really needs is some form of speed boost or armor penetration... in my opinion.
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on the advanced dreatch thing. What about some lame thing, like the spit from the builder, that slows human?
It's not overpower, and can be used efectively for a nice strategic attack
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on the advanced dreatch thing. What about some lame thing, like the spit from the builder, that slows human?
It's not overpower, and can be used efectively for a nice strategic attack
yes, a granger that spits trapper acid.
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Imo, a dretch that spits trapper acid would be an assload of over-powered if the target human wasnt wearing a bsuit/helmet. Talk about free kills. I think dretches are as good as its going to get for low-tier aliens.
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The best idea to come out of any of these adv. dretch threads is the dretch that can spit trapper blobs.
Right. Trapping dretchen = aliens win. Every game. Ever. EVAR!
I think this will be just too powerful.
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America would like to think that he's wearing Canada like some fancy hat. What he doesn't realise is that Canada is a rhino. A calm and friendly rhino that likes to sit on people's heads.
sit or shit?
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LOL!!! :D I like the dretch that spits trapper blobs though!!! It wins!!!!! :wink:
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The adv dretch should be an alien that can wallclimb on humans,that way it can stick to a hummie with it noticing and go in the hummie base,bad thing is that it will only see the FOV of a alien sticking to a human back and it wont see what is behind it so a human at the back of the human who has a alien sticking on his back could shoot the adv dretch,and it should have 60 hp and you need to clikc the mouse to bite.
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Advance Granger should shoot the undamageing, sticky trapper stuff, not this lightly damaging spittle.
Would both make Advanced Granger more useful, as well as cutting down on attack grangers and encouraging teamwork.
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It would severely increase the number of attack grangers since the spit would actually do something.
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Yeah we dont need MORE battle grangers :)
I would like to see an advanced dretch with permanent poison bite on S3.
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I always thought in Balistik as Adv. Dretch. Tho I never use Balistik at all myself :P TBH, I always think that Adv. Ballistik should be standard Ballistik and Adv. Ballistik should fly. Standard Ballistik is pretty useless, imo.
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night vision dretch would be pointless as there are no pitch black map areas
the game is balanced
not pitch black. if you read in other posts there isn't really any shadow in the game hence no light or dark its all fake, also night vision would be something that can increase gamma levels maybe with a filter and shader applied over all with advanced drtech and and rifle No its a base unti to get you started why evolve into a dretch at S3 when all you hafto do is wait and get some points awarded to you and evolve BUT i think ppl who start as a dretch at S3 should be aworded 1 point if they have 0 points and humans should get 200 credits at S3 if they haave no credits
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Advance Granger should shoot the undamageing, sticky trapper stuff, not this lightly damaging spittle.
Would both make Advanced Granger more useful, as well as cutting down on attack grangers and encouraging teamwork.
very good idea, and basalisk is pretty useless.
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night vision dretch would be pointless as there are no pitch black map areas
the game is balanced
game is not balanced goon if way over powered no human weapon can end a game like a goon can
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Lucis can kill goons with a single shot.
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Lucis can kill goons with a single shot.
Cheater! Stage 1 humans cannot get a luci :o
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How many grangers would attack turrets for 1 minute per turret kill?
Also, attacking would actually prevent the humans from leaving the base, since they can't move, and thus encouraging camping and hindering the Alien's efforts to attack the human base.
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Why adv dretch we should make an alien that has a thing like a hive attached to its back so it can deploy it at hummies or make its back like a hovel for multiple dretches say 6 dretches so it can release the dretches or if the dretches want to come out bu itself without getting shot by a human except the carrier takes the damage not the dretche,s.It should have primamry attack releasing dretches and secondary attack is a mix of basi swipe+adv basi gas.Give it 250 hp available at s3.
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Another good idea, but unlikely. But I like it! :P :wink:
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A dretch spitting alien.
Shoots dretches across the room faster than turrets can track them.
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My idea beats the crap out of the other,s.My idea should be made into reality maybe in a mod or the next version of Trem.
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A dretch spitting alien.
Shoots dretches across the room faster than turrets can track them.
We already got that, just put ff off and get a tyrant to swing at passive dretches...
I've named it Dretch Darts :)
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But the ability to carry ammo (i.e. dretches), and aim where to shoot, similar to dragoon barbs.
I actually got the idea from playing around with dretch-punt myself.