/threadNot so fast! We have a lot of flaming to do!
Don't/threadNot so fast! We have a lot of flaming to do!
Game's already dead.Then why don't you help instead of whine.
snipperverts? havent you heard? granger is NOT for fuck.
I do recall hearing "we don't need powerful admins; just helpful players".Quote from tuple.
Most people are good, but people who talk about sex and swear alot
I blame it on the pervertsEr... I don't really get how people like monkeyman (if that's what you're trying to describe) disrupt someone's gaming experience. Mainly because they don't.
So how about we start a tremulous revolution, and bring it back to life by giving negative consequences to trolls and abusers?Unlikely ???
everything diesMany-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics, sir. Everything is bound to exist indefinitely in some parallel universes not interferring with the ones in which it's dead.
I've taken a couple newcommers to a private server and taught them trem. Why can't everyone do this?Tutorial servers? Discuss.
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1: 1.2 GPP needs an equivalent to the Wrath Newbie Training Server. When I first started, there were a number of times that I almost ragequit, but WNTS kept me around just long enough to get addicted, and that's the sweet spot in keeping a game alive.
1: 1.2 GPP needs an equivalent to the Wrath Newbie Training Server. When I first started, there were a number of times that I almost ragequit, but WNTS kept me around just long enough to get addicted, and that's the sweet spot in keeping a game alive.I'm thinking more like an automated server, that runs a map specific to training newbies (ie with messages on the walls). We might need two servers, one for teaching them to play each team.
I'm serious about this project. I can help with planning, coding, and design, and possibly hosting (not likely, but I still have a spare laptop). I'll gladly take this to a separate thread if that's what we need.
Separate thread for this?
I so fucking agree with toast. The reason for the death of trem is not only the abusive admins, but the trolls.I'd say it has more to do with the splitting of the community, impatience of the community (long development cycles happen, people need to learn to deal with it), better graphics found in other free/opensource games (sadly, people don't value gameplay like they used to, it's all about looking the most [sur]real,) and I wouldn't say "trolls" but rather assholes in general.
one of everythingdefine 'one'
the "death of trem" is quite easy to explain. it's a niche interest mod to an old game. it is not a CoD or CS clone. i've been an active community member for many such games, and few other community members seem to come to grips with this, they always want to blame the death of their favorite game on whatever mechanic displeases them the most.
personally, i think trem will be actively around at least another 5 years. i mean, we still can fill at least one server to capacity every day. when we cannot do that for more than a month, then i might be willing to accept the fact that "trem is dying".
Everything dies
1: 1.2 GPP needs an equivalent to the Wrath Newbie Training Server. When I first started, there were a number of times that I almost ragequit, but WNTS kept me around just long enough to get addicted, and that's the sweet spot in keeping a game alive.
2: This one is painfully obvious: If you like trem (a lot), then find ppl like you (online or real ppl) and point them to the game. Play a private match with them. Get them addicted. w/e
Kharnov:You're going to make yourself look very, very stupid otherwise.Yes maybe a little but I was raging hard and not thinking entirely clear. Also unnecessary mutes for something not against the rules, then the person who called the vote cracks a gay joke right after and nothing happens? Pfft. Whatever. Today's a new day, I'm not raging near as hard as yesterday, but I will be logging everything from now on.
It's the admins I see maybe, say, once a month or so that come on and then bitch about the littlest things, or do nothing when I lodge an in game complaint.That is just not true.
[A] Cadynum.ddos: no pointless binds pleaseI have no idea how you could get offended by this
Toast's sole contribution to the game _is_ his pointless binds, you're rendering him useless.*wah!*I said the following:Quote[A] Cadynum.ddos: no pointless binds pleaseI have no idea how you could get offended by this
people who talk about sex and swear alot are the people who make people leave and give a bad impression to the newcommers.Newcommers? Don't you mean nude cummers? LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
I think the ban happy mods are partially what does it I played about 20 hours a week last summer then not long after school started again I got a deny build vote against me now I'm not going to argue what I did was right but I got got pissed off and basenadded after making some comments I got a 6 week ban and didn't come back till close to 6 months later its not like we have that many players that we can afford to keep ban happy mods like that as after 6 weeks it was way out of sight and mind for me::)I believe you deserved it. Although the language thing.. there's no rule against it I don't make gay jokes, I don't usually go to far unless I rage, there is no rule against it. You make one, I'll follow it.
to comment on one of the major themes of this thread if people dont like the language people use we should perhaps publicize the mute functions more
Toast's sole contribution to the game _is_ his pointless binds, you're rendering him useless.*wah!*I said the following:Quote[A] Cadynum.ddos: no pointless binds pleaseI have no idea how you could get offended by this
system of admin approval
there is no rule against it. You make one, I'll follow it.
Unless I'm obviously spamming them, which I don't until the games done with and it really doesn't matter. I got singled out and I don't really like that.
Tremulous Official Server Rules (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=12896.0)
Player Rules
1. No Griefing
2. No Harassment
3. No Glitch building
4. No Cheating
5. No Server Takeovers
6. No Spamming
..Congratulations on your well formatted post, but asking you to stop using your penis binds does not equal censorship.
i dun no ??? mb u try say n-word insted and c if work?? ???even wen i say n-word i get the mutes :o :o bt some guy had name that way and he no got renamed?? seem fair? i dun think so :-\ :-\ :-\
I would like to point out here that if you don't have rules then people are less likely to break them.
I would like to point out here that if you don't have rules then people are less likely to break them.
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
So if we don't have laws people will be less likely to break laws right!?
You should really think hard about who is given admin. Dont just give it to people who you associate with, but people who are active, dont abuse and will do their duties as admins.
Congratulations, you're now a level 3 admin. Do it better.
I so fucking agree with toast. The reason for the death of trem is not only the abusive admins, but the trolls.Seems legit...
Most people are good, but people who talk about sex and swear alot are the people who make people leave and give a bad impression to the newcommers....the fuck. Take it to xbox live if you want to be babied.
i find a noob builder and attempt to kick himyeop.
i find a noob builder and attempt to kick himyeop.
To be productive, However:1. : I joined tremulous before this server even existed, and it never had as much players per day on average compare to US Official.
1: 1.2 GPP needs an equivalent to the Wrath Newbie Training Server. When I first started, there were a number of times that I almost ragequit, but WNTS kept me around just long enough to get addicted, and that's the sweet spot in keeping a game alive.
2: This one is painfully obvious: If you like trem (a lot), then find ppl like you (online or real ppl) and point them to the game. Play a private match with them. Get them addicted. w/e
it died alreadyWhen was the last time you played tremulous?
When it was still alive. I am not a necrophiliac.it died alreadyWhen was the last time you played tremulous?
That was awesome. 8)When it was still alive. I am not a necrophiliac.it died alreadyWhen was the last time you played tremulous?
The bigger question is, WHY ARE GAMES NO LONGER FOR FUN. I haven't found one person on trem, or league of legends, or whateverthefuck, that is not tryharding to the most extent. When did we break the threshold of being addicted to video games? Game:An activity providing entertainment or amusement; a pastime. What the fuck is wrong with the world?
Oomg dont say that, why would you demotivate the developers?
Better say that we're still there supporting them and wating for put the hands on their work : D
Getting killed 10000 times and not killing others is no fun it feels like everyone is cheating aimbot is mostly what killed tremWhere are you seeing this, 1.1, gpp, gpp official?
i see it in gpp, myself. i dont bitch about it often, but it is vastly frustrating. past few days there have been 1-3 players on the server better than the rest of us by far. whichever team more of these players was on was guaranteed a win. one player should not make such a big impact in a team game.Getting killed 10000 times and not killing others is no fun it feels like everyone is cheating aimbot is mostly what killed tremWhere are you seeing this, 1.1, gpp, gpp official?
If you have a handful of mediocre players who know how to play the game and can work as a team, then the single player with particularly good aim isn't going to be all that effective at skewing things, the trouble is that most of these frustrated players don't even understand the basics, have trouble using a mouse, and view anyone who's capable of using the massdriver effectively as an aimbotter, it gets worse when these players start stacking a team, for instance humans, because their play style is more immediately fathomable to the beginner, the aliens will inevitably tear them apart in a few short minutes.i see it in gpp, myself. i dont bitch about it often, but it is vastly frustrating. past few days there have been 1-3 players on the server better than the rest of us by far. whichever team more of these players was on was guaranteed a win. one player should not make such a big impact in a team game.Getting killed 10000 times and not killing others is no fun it feels like everyone is cheating aimbot is mostly what killed tremWhere are you seeing this, 1.1, gpp, gpp official?
it's also insanely frustrating to deal with a player that if he sees you, you die. this is due to the very nature of the teams; humans have range, aliens must come into physical contact with the humans. it takes evos you are not likely to get to even get close enough to score a hit, as dretches just do not have the HP to get near someone using a MD or shotgun.If you have a handful of mediocre players who know how to play the game and can work as a team, then the single player with particularly good aim isn't going to be all that effective at skewing things, the trouble is that most of these frustrated players don't even understand the basics, have trouble using a mouse, and view anyone who's capable of using the massdriver effectively as an aimbotter, it gets worse when these players start stacking a team, for instance humans, because their play style is more immediately fathomable to the beginner, the aliens will inevitably tear them apart in a few short minutes.i see it in gpp, myself. i dont bitch about it often, but it is vastly frustrating. past few days there have been 1-3 players on the server better than the rest of us by far. whichever team more of these players was on was guaranteed a win. one player should not make such a big impact in a team game.Getting killed 10000 times and not killing others is no fun it feels like everyone is cheating aimbot is mostly what killed tremWhere are you seeing this, 1.1, gpp, gpp official?
Coming from you, I'm really not surprised you haven't thought to move in patterns that are difficult to hit. After all, moving in a straight line is the best!for acceleration, yes, it is. i find it necessary to strafejump to close the gap presented by dodging, sprinting, humans.
play with /cl_noprint 1 = no dramasome times it helps a lot
Wow, i've been searching for a command like that. That's -1 topic off the board! (not even open anyway)play with /cl_noprint 1 = no dramasome times it helps a lot
Experienced players play better than inexperienced players? well, i'm flabbergasted!I am working with tremz, spending the time I can spare to delay the eventual demise of Tremulous.
People losing interest in the game is what has killed trem, it's that simple, it has nothing to do with supposed aimbotting(UrT's still alive and well and it has orders of magnitude more cheats than trem ever has, and hardly any active server admins) or a skill gap between experienced players and newbies, trem has always had a steep learning curve, but when most of us started playing there were hundreds of fellow newbies to balance things out, the handful of new players venturing into trem thesedays trickle in too slowly to maintain an enthusiastic newbie population.
We need 1.2, or tremz, or something of the sort, to grab the attention of large volumes of new players all at once, in the meantime more experienced players making like miserable for each other by spamming things that they feel are op wouldn't be a bad idea, otherwise we'll be stuck with every other player pouncespamming, for instance, when 1.2's final.
I'll understand that the Jews are plotting to take over the world and form a totalitarian one-world government? A-ha... :o
Please, seek professional help. (http://www.wikihow.com/Help-Cure-Your-Paranoia)
Which version do you play? GPP is free of cheaters for now at least, but this isn't the case in 1.1 unfortunately.
As far as I know Buddha/oRaw didn't spread his doings anywhere... and I've no knowledge of cheating other than that. There at least isn't a big spread of botters like 1.1 had(/still has?), probably due to the playerbase being smaller.Which version do you play? GPP is free of cheaters for now at least, but this isn't the case in 1.1 unfortunately.
GPP is no longer cheater free, just saying.
As far as I know Buddha/oRaw didn't spread his doings anywhere... and I've no knowledge of cheating other than that. There at least isn't a big spread of botters like 1.1 had(/still has?), probably due to the playerbase being smaller.Which version do you play? GPP is free of cheaters for now at least, but this isn't the case in 1.1 unfortunately.
GPP is no longer cheater free, just saying.
I'll understand that the Jews are plotting to take over the world and form a totalitarian one-world government? A-ha... :o
Please, seek professional help. (http://www.wikihow.com/Help-Cure-Your-Paranoia)
+1 JessWarLock is the Mark Twain of our time.
Meisseli is a dump face ... Telling that gpp have no cheat is like tell that Meisseli mother dont suck cock !!!!
Tremulous will never die because Tremulous is in us all!
In our hearts and minds we will carry on the lessons learned through Tremulous, long after we stop playing.
Tremulous isn't just a game, it's a lifestyle.
For example, pressing G in a public place isn't exactly a good idea.Tremulous will never die because Tremulous is in us all!
In our hearts and minds we will carry on the lessons learned through Tremulous, long after we stop playing.
what lessons ???
Unlike you guys, I really hope tremulous gets remade to steam.amen.
it's all gpl and creative commons. nothings stopping anyone from porting it to source. you could even use the same map pk3's with some work.
you can mod source however you like. getting it onto the steam store is another story entirely, but so long as you have bought a source game, you are allowed to mod.it's all gpl and creative commons. nothings stopping anyone from porting it to source. you could even use the same map pk3's with some work.
Except for the fact that it's gpl. Steam doesn't allow gpl games. Now, you can do what NS did and try to use the same concept, but then you'd have to rewrite all the game code yourself.
it's surely still going to require a total rewrite if your target engine is source.you can mod source however you like. getting it onto the steam store is another story entirely, but so long as you have bought a source game, you are allowed to mod.it's all gpl and creative commons. nothings stopping anyone from porting it to source. you could even use the same map pk3's with some work.
Except for the fact that it's gpl. Steam doesn't allow gpl games. Now, you can do what NS did and try to use the same concept, but then you'd have to rewrite all the game code yourself.
Except for the fact that it's gpl. Steam doesn't allow gpl games.
it's all gpl and creative commons. nothings stopping anyone from porting it to source. you could even use the same map pk3's with some work.
Except for the fact that it's gpl. Steam doesn't allow gpl games. Now, you can do what NS did and try to use the same concept, but then you'd have to rewrite all the game code yourself.
Also, this is all irrelevant for talks of a new engine, as the licence would be dictated by whoever wrote the engine / port.
Also, this is all irrelevant for talks of a new engine, as the licence would be dictated by whoever wrote the engine / port.
I think it would still have to be GPL, unless they rewrite the entire thing.
NO WAI !What do you mean? Is the grave I am dancing on right now empty?
It will not.
NO WAI !
It will not.
NO WAI !
It will not.
FUKA! I SEE YOU OVER THERE!
NO WAI !
It will not.
FUKA! I SEE YOU OVER THERE!
ONOZ !
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I ported gpp to 1.1 with tweaking.and i ported GPP to 1.1+1.2: the server is connectable by both 1.1 and 1.2 clients.
Someone should port it to Unity or something.send rotacake some money and he'll have it done in a couple of years.
I wanna play it on PS4.
You're a person with background knowledge. I'm just doing fak'r all via trial and error.I ported gpp to 1.1 with tweaking.and i ported GPP to 1.1+1.2: the server is connectable by both 1.1 and 1.2 clients.
send rotacake some money and he'll have it done in a couple of years.I'd buy the granger first. Btw, he doesn't accept donations apparently. You need to buy the game. Le Kickstarter account died so I have no idea how this works anymore.
A little too late but good job nevertheless. Devs wanted 1.1 to die for the sake of 1.2 and they failed to keep 1.2 alive.I ported gpp to 1.1 with tweaking.and i ported GPP to 1.1+1.2: the server is connectable by both 1.1 and 1.2 clients.
A updated sequel that's structured similarly to original game
A updated sequel that's structured similarly to original game
http://unvanquished.net/
I am new to Tremulous, but here is my two cents as someone who has played Natural Selection for 10 years and witnesses it's death (as well as numerous HL1 mods). It's natural for FPS games to dwindle in population as time goes on, it seems that the length of survival for newer games is much shorter these days than for old games though (Tremulous, Doom, Mount&Blade,Counter-Strike, etc). NS has been dead for almost a year now, a few servers but no one plays anymore, and it has a sequel but very few play maybe 1000 at most. What I wanted to say is that I think tremulous has lasted a long time and will probably last a lot more, but the longer it goes depends on how strong the community is, once main communities die then people stop playing and they move onto other games as it splits. Mount&Blade mostly survives because there is huge community and many events for players, Doom and Tremulous people still play because of the gameplay obviously. I think best thing you can do to keep game alive is be nice to noobies and foster a good community. A updated sequel that's structured similarly to original game and daily updates are what keep game community alive in future I think.
A updated sequel that's structured similarly to original game
http://unvanquished.net/
I am new to Tremulous, but here is my two cents as someone who has played Natural Selection for 10 years and witnesses it's death (as well as numerous HL1 mods). It's natural for FPS games to dwindle in population as time goes on, it seems that the length of survival for newer games is much shorter these days than for old games though (Tremulous, Doom, Mount&Blade,Counter-Strike, etc). NS has been dead for almost a year now, a few servers but no one plays anymore, and it has a sequel but very few play maybe 1000 at most. What I wanted to say is that I think tremulous has lasted a long time and will probably last a lot more, but the longer it goes depends on how strong the community is, once main communities die then people stop playing and they move onto other games as it splits. Mount&Blade mostly survives because there is huge community and many events for players, Doom and Tremulous people still play because of the gameplay obviously. I think best thing you can do to keep game alive is be nice to noobies and foster a good community. A updated sequel that's structured similarly to original game and daily updates are what keep game community alive in future I think.The reason the game dwindles is because the game's own homepage doesn't host a real client to actually play the game with
A life support system has been built for Tremulous (keep your eyes open for it). Some very interested individuals just won't let it die.
A life support system has been built for Tremulous (keep your eyes open for it). Some very interested individuals just won't let it die.
Have to be something more like a resurrection machine at this point.
A life support system has been built for Tremulous (keep your eyes open for it). Some very interested individuals just won't let it die.
Kaine killed Tremulous