Both of the topics have been locked (obviously) and nobody has said any alternative area for discussion (unless you mean IRC)... It is still on right?yes, seems silly to lock the topics without telling folks where to go to discuss.
You can go to #tremz @ freenode to stay on top of the latest development with Tremz.The best you'll manage there is to see people turn up, start discussing tremz, get stopped and told to go to the invite only secret development channel.
I'm not THAT stupid.No, but you are THAT humorless, which is even worse.
All of tremz devs stopped posting because they can't access their accounts or the forum anymore.i wonder how much users got banned as a result of the anti-TremZ movement by the tremulous.net admins. because the set of TremZ developers is not public.
That is the only explanation.
Just to clear some stuff up we chose to have topics locked for personal reasons, additionally as far as I know none of us have been banned for anything tremz related.This is, of course, precisely the kind of thing we'd expect to see posted from the hijacked account of a silenced developer.
Just to clear some stuff up we chose to have topics locked for personal reasons, additionally as far as I know none of us have been banned for anything tremz related.This is, of course, precisely the kind of thing we'd expect to see posted from the hijacked account of a silenced developer.
[sculder&mully]
The Tremulous Development Team believes in open source: mods and forks have always been possible
and are probably one of the reasons why Tremulous is still around. For various reasons,
some people need to do their thing and we can only wish them well in their undertakings.
I'm surprised people haven't grown tired of conspiracy theories, considering how often they appear in this community...Well, I'm probably the only one who had enough of them... ::)
So tremz was a joke. right?
It was good I nearly thought it was real
So tremz was a joke. right?
It was good I nearly thought it was real
Considering that development is still going on (https://picasaweb.google.com/103667496703540471106/TREMZ?authkey=Gv1sRgCMCUq-TG0e2vtQE), it's probably real.
So tremz was a joke. right?
It was good I nearly thought it was real
massive progresshttps://picasaweb.google.com/103667496703540471106/TREMZ?authkey=Gv1sRgCMCUq-TG0e2vtQE#5657478743603305794
massive progresshttps://picasaweb.google.com/103667496703540471106/TREMZ?authkey=Gv1sRgCMCUq-TG0e2vtQE#5657478743603305794
i'm just sad there's no lensflare
That much is obvious, Kharnov, just wondering if it's really worth dumping such unrelated crap in the picassa album.massive progresshttps://picasaweb.google.com/103667496703540471106/TREMZ?authkey=Gv1sRgCMCUq-TG0e2vtQE#5657478743603305794
i'm just sad there's no lensflare
Tremulant, that isn't from TremZ. It's from something made several years ago. Completely different thing. :P
May I ask why the most recent pictures are from the old HUD volt and paradox were working on?The images have been moved to end of album, I uploaded to show some dev team members how the old UI looked like compared to current. Also progress isn't based on the number of pictures. It's relevant to current development only to show how far UI has come from when I first tried implementing it. Again nothing looks great when you first do it but it gets better with every revision :P
Does this mean progress is based on number of pictures?
He said massive progress and then directed people to the image album. Very misleading.May I ask why the most recent pictures are from the old HUD volt and paradox were working on?The images have been moved to end of album, I uploaded to show some dev team members how the old UI looked like compared to current. Also progress isn't based on the number of pictures. It's relevant to current development only to show how far UI has come from when I first tried implementing it. Again nothing looks great when you first do it but it gets better with every revision :P
Does this mean progress is based on number of pictures?
R u guys gonna come up with a better name for this project?Example?
R u guys gonna come up with a better name for this project?I think that Tremz is fine. ;)
He said massive progress and then directed people to the image album. Very misleading.
So tremz was a joke. right?
It was good I nearly thought it was real
Considering that development is still going on (https://picasaweb.google.com/103667496703540471106/TREMZ?authkey=Gv1sRgCMCUq-TG0e2vtQE), it's probably real.
People thought that about 1.2
Lol why do you people continue tremz related discussions here move it to #tremz on freenode please and thanks.Because we can, and because you tried to stop such discussion once already, tbh we don't really give a shit about tremz but if we're not allowed to discuss it we're sure as hell going to try ;).
He said massive progress and then directed people to the image album. Very misleading.lol CreatureofHell I'm really beginning to think you are what your name implies. Listen carefully i'm only going to say this once(well already said it might as well repeat it), that album you keep referring to in your replies from the moment it went up has been *random development shots* as in randomly updated randomly uploaded. Expecting any kind of sorting there is misleading on your part. There is a tremz blog you can visit for stuff like that (two of them if i remember correctly).
we've been having massive progress over the last week. And yes, check out that Picasa link for various shots of development.He mentioned massive progress and the dev shots in quick succession, that does seem a tad misleading to me too.
Had you guys listened and went to the IRC channel where this stuff belongs you'll have noticed tremz has it's own domain,hosting,blog,forums which is where these discussions belong. <--Directed at anyone who continues asking tremz related questions where they don't belong.I've sat around in your irc channels, they haven't proven terribly enlightening, where are these blogs, forums, etc, don't feel like sharing URLs?
Again a week or two ago we asked for 4-7 people from the community to come do some devgames with us, had you been at the right channel at the right time you would have most likely gotten that invite. We are Tremz we aren't tremfusion,unvanquished, or tremulous. We do things differently even if we were to stop development at this point we'd have engine,models(Majority),ui done which is far more than any other tremulous fork has been able to get done ever.I could have sworn i was in tremz irc channels a week or two ago, i don't recall those dev games, are you sure you're not mistaking conversations in the secret invite only channel with public irc discussion?
Again if you have questions or concerns we are on IRC and the forums will be setup by tomorrow.Ah, that explains why we're not already discussing it there and the fact that there were no URLs, good good.
My advice would be to leave community relations to kharnov, seeing as you elected him community guy and he has the right tone when dealing with naysayers. I think you agree with me, as you were the one who chose him for community guy. Just look at his post above, doesnt it just make you swoon.
PS. INVITE ME TO OPEN DEV GAME PLOX.
Volt's sexslaves' Mod of TremulousR u guys gonna come up with a better name for this project?Example?
PS. INVITE ME TO OPEN DEV GAME PLOX.
I don't know man. We'll probably just rage you out.
PS. INVITE ME TO OPEN DEV GAME PLOX.
I don't know man. We'll probably just rage you out.
An alarming amount of GPPgai's seem to make up the current pool of testers. This must be remedied. By me.
1.2
developement:D
when i say that. im serious. 1.2's development TURNED into TremZ. Well, volt posts '1.2's new hud and models' then next to it he posts 'TremZ's new models'. I'm confused. They both have the same stuff in those topics.sounds like tremz should be called tremulous 1.2
According to what your saying:No.when i say that. im serious. 1.2's development TURNED into TremZ. Well, volt posts '1.2's new hud and models' then next to it he posts 'TremZ's new models'. I'm confused. They both have the same stuff in those topics.sounds like tremz should be called tremulous 1.2
Why not?
I don't see a reason why not to call it 1.2 considering that it is not gonna come out any time soon.
I mean that if 1.2 isn't coming at any of the dates mentioned in other posts may as well call it that.
ROFL @ "official".Why not?
I don't see a reason why not to call it 1.2 considering that it is not gonna come out any time soon.
I mean that if 1.2 isn't coming at any of the dates mentioned in other posts may as well call it that.
Perhaps because it's because it's a fork and not the official tremulous development.
Did you mean offical?ROFL @ "official".Why not?
I don't see a reason why not to call it 1.2 considering that it is not gonna come out any time soon.
I mean that if 1.2 isn't coming at any of the dates mentioned in other posts may as well call it that.
Perhaps because it's because it's a fork and not the official tremulous development.
the "official" word is overrated.
Not in my country. It is spelt 'official'. Also, i googled 'offical' at it says 'do you mean 'official'?Did you mean offical?ROFL @ "official".Why not?
I don't see a reason why not to call it 1.2 considering that it is not gonna come out any time soon.
I mean that if 1.2 isn't coming at any of the dates mentioned in other posts may as well call it that.
Perhaps because it's because it's a fork and not the official tremulous development.
the "official" word is overrated.
The joke was that when GPP first started the official servers were called offical by mistake. (or not)Not in my country. It is spelt 'official'. Also, i googled 'offical' at it says 'do you mean 'official'?Did you mean offical?ROFL @ "official".Why not?
I don't see a reason why not to call it 1.2 considering that it is not gonna come out any time soon.
I mean that if 1.2 isn't coming at any of the dates mentioned in other posts may as well call it that.
Perhaps because it's because it's a fork and not the official tremulous development.
the "official" word is overrated.
umm, why did they close their picassa album? ???
Strange when I tried to view it a few days ago it said that it was closed.umm, why did they close their picassa album? ???
We never closed it. Which link are you using?
Because I am helpful and not lazy, the proper link is here (https://picasaweb.google.com/103667496703540471106/TREMZ?authkey=Gv1sRgCMCUq-TG0e2vtQE#).
I see you added some pics.
https://picasaweb.google.com/103667496703540471106/TREMZ?authkey=Gv1sRgCMCUq-TG0e2vtQE#5673392565038355618
https://picasaweb.google.com/103667496703540471106/TREMZ?authkey=Gv1sRgCMCUq-TG0e2vtQE#5673392560222385922
Are these your new "commercial" maps?
And why all the random pics of default trem maps?
I see you added some pics.
https://picasaweb.google.com/103667496703540471106/TREMZ?authkey=Gv1sRgCMCUq-TG0e2vtQE#5673392565038355618
https://picasaweb.google.com/103667496703540471106/TREMZ?authkey=Gv1sRgCMCUq-TG0e2vtQE#5673392560222385922
Are these your new "commercial" maps?
And why all the random pics of default trem maps?
so, is your renderer this one http://www.moddb.com/mods/etxreal or something else?
so, is your renderer this one http://www.moddb.com/mods/etxreal or something else?
so, is your renderer this one http://www.moddb.com/mods/etxreal or something else?
Bloom effects:
off \
low \
normal )these would be the selections
high /
So, what do you think about it?
According to http://uncannygaming.com, TremZ will be Mac compatible, but according to http://www.moddb.com/games/openwolf it's only Windows and Linux compatible. Explain, plz.
-K
just looked at more of the pics posted on the website.Well, there's a pretty good reason for that:
the helmet looks like one from halo 3 odst.
just looked at more of the pics posted on the website.Well, there's a pretty good reason for that:
the helmet looks like one from halo 3 odst.
http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=38303219
http://mikejensen.deviantart.com/gallery/
and for the "battlesuit":
http://jensen.cgsociety.org/gallery/
Volt, any chance you could divide the gallery into original assets and concepts and borrowed, maybe even with attribution? People seem to be getting confused, and i'm sure you don't want that.
Just to paint a pictureSo do I. Could you tell us plox?
this is a chaingun you can find by searching "minigun" on deviant art, I wonder who's highpoly tremulous chaingun model it shares characteristics with?
There is a reason why in the album i put this as album description "To clear up some confusion, these are random development shots."That really doesn't clear up anything, i would expect development shots to be shots of the actual development process, not cool images harvested from around the web to serve as inspiration, it also fails to excuse your use of such harvested images on tremz.com's front page, very much passed off as the work of your team.
The bsuit is from a instructional dvd called zbrush hard surface, the person who donated it created the model following the instructions in the video course. The license that came with the DVD clearly outlines nothing against this. Trust me I can pull up a ugly render without the fancy (Vray) lighting but I don't have time/(computer)power to let that model render. It's much simpler to use the amazing renders that come preset with the dvd linked in picassa in the meantime.Can't say that much of this is making sense, but ok, how about the halo helmet, what's the explanation for that one? You must understand that it's frustrating for us to see you lying through your teeth about what assets are actually available to you, when the project seems to have potential in some areas.
*snip distracting noise and further pointless excuses*
Why is everyone raging TremZ?
Why is everyone raging TremZ?
Because the majority of the Tremulous community has a very curious case of Stockholm syndrome.
Tremulous hasn't held anyone hostage from what I know.srsly, you have no idea xD
All these people are raging you where in reality one shouldn't give a shit where the stuff came from, as long as it looks good ingame I'm happy. Why is everyone raging TremZ?Why is everyone so hyped up about it? It's some three weeks to go and yet there's almost no progress to be seen at all. One can't tell what's stolen, what's concept art, what's way too high-poly to be in the game, what's made with photoshop, etc... only thing that seems to be certain is there's going to be an ugly lipstick dretch and untextured, worse looking alien + human building models than what the current ones are. One nice pulse rifle.
Everyone is so hyped about TremZ because for the first time in several years, a new release with new graphics and engine is actually imminent. However, it seems, that is also the reason for your caution: you think it is too good to be true. I assure you, there will be a release on New Years.Hooray! Competency!
The old picasa album has been taken down and we are in the process of putting up a new one with only assets that are planned to be in game. I guess, we felt it was obvious enough which was concept art and which was supposed to be in game (obviously, a bald woman would not be in game, but is actually a WIP). In-game screenshots will be coming up shortly as well, as the engine has neared completion. The picasa album was never meant to be an advertisement of TremZ, but was meant to demonstrate that progress was alive and well. If we wanted an advertisement, we would have released a trailer on Youtube.
Also, if you dislike the dretch, tell us what you'd prefer instead. At TremZ, we're all about community involvement. The textures on the dretch aren't final, so if the community doesn't like something, we're more than willing to change it if they provide some decent rationale.
The old picasa album has been taken down and we are in the process of putting up a new one with only assets that are planned to be in game. I guess, we felt it was obvious enough which was concept art and which was supposed to be in game (obviously, a bald woman would not be in game, but is actually a WIP). In-game screenshots will be coming up shortly as well, as the engine has neared completion. The picasa album was never meant to be an advertisement of TremZ, but was meant to demonstrate that progress was alive and well. If we wanted an advertisement, we would have released a trailer on Youtube.Thank you.
All these people are raging you where in reality one shouldn't give a shit where the stuff came from, as long as it looks good ingame I'm happy. Why is everyone raging TremZ?Why is everyone so hyped up about it? It's some three weeks to go and yet there's almost no progress to be seen at all. One can't tell what's stolen, what's concept art, what's way too high-poly to be in the game, what's made with photoshop, etc... only thing that seems to be certain is there's going to be an ugly lipstick dretch and untextured, worse looking alien + human building models than what the current ones are. One nice pulse rifle.
Nobody knows what the game is going to look or be like even a month before a supposed release. Here, let me give you an example, I'm going to try and figure out how a human soldier is going to look in TremZ:
Hmm, they could be going for this ugly-looking hunchback bald-head. (https://picasaweb.google.com/103667496703540471106/TREMZ#5654760666275178514)
Or perhaps a cartoonish elf-warrior from RPGs of the 90s? (https://picasaweb.google.com/103667496703540471106/TREMZ#5654769189448635138)
Wow, we're suddenly going for a ninja assassin? (https://picasaweb.google.com/103667496703540471106/TREMZ#5653589069154022978)
A very odd-faced bald now is it? (https://picasaweb.google.com/103667496703540471106/TREMZ#5653911725565955026)
Bald women too? Ugh. (https://picasaweb.google.com/103667496703540471106/TREMZ#5681249492582293362)
This the human? Or is it a battlesuit? (https://picasaweb.google.com/103667496703540471106/TREMZ#5679734918254921042)
Or are battlesuits going to be replaced with mechas? (https://picasaweb.google.com/103667496703540471106/TREMZ#5654758843546209602)
Each of the screens are very different and the quality differs a ton, which one(s) are they actually going to use? What can they actually use? What's too high poly for the game?
The way it's handled, there being no actual in-game screenshots of the good stuff, (a lot of bad stuff though: robot goons (https://picasaweb.google.com/103667496703540471106/TREMZ#5653579319058717570), the aforomentioned, infamous lipstick dretch (https://picasaweb.google.com/103667496703540471106/TREMZ#5648105128582829778), reactor (https://picasaweb.google.com/103667496703540471106/TREMZ#5651422515459847970) and philh's take on it, which sums it up nicely (http://i.imgur.com/DJ4Z3.png)) no certainty whatsoever what goes in the game, what doesn't, there not being an official list of developers (do they have modellers or are these all borrowed? if, who are they? what kind of previous work have they done?) really makes me wonder why should i be so overjoyed about this project. I believe the only textured model so far I've seen is the lipstick dretch? You have three weeks to texture when the models aren't even done yet, better hurry up.
Now, I'm not against the project, far from it. But please fix things up if you really want everyone to be happy about it, instead of only GeneralScott and you yourself. Give a list of developers, screenshots and information of what's actually going into the game, information about your first release, make an official site with content, make your own forums so you don't have to hi-jack the Tremulous ones and so on, and maybe you'll actually convince people into thinking you're going to make awesome things, instead of kharnov repeatedly just slamming it into your face: "IT'S GOING TO BE AWESOME, IT'S GOING TO BE AWESOME, IT'S GOING TO BE AWESOME!!!" Cool, but how would I or anyone else actually know that?
Such a piss poor way of marketing your game.
Probably because TremZ is made up of more than one developer.Can't they just nominate one person to provide the information rather than ten? I don't even know who is part of this project anymore. I think volt has something to do with it though...
Probably because TremZ is made up of more than one developer.Can't they just nominate one person to provide the information rather than ten? I don't even know who is part of this project anymore. I think volt has something to do with it though...
I have moral objections to visiting this site you and your acquaintances keep advertising.Probably because TremZ is made up of more than one developer.Can't they just nominate one person to provide the information rather than ten? I don't even know who is part of this project anymore. I think volt has something to do with it though...
Kharnov, volt, and I are the main people speaking to the community, since we all have expertise in different areas. For a full list of people involved in the project, we have nice little list right here http://uncannygaming.com/?page_id=2 (http://uncannygaming.com/?page_id=2)
General
Project head: Volt
Coding
Bots: Fuma, `Ishq
Database: db-, HermXIV
Engine: `Ishq, Qrntzz, TheDushan
Rendering: Gimhael
Modeling
Aliens: Gregstein, Redsky, velociostrich, Josh Melling
Humans: Gregstein, Cron, F1rst19, Iciban
Mapping: Duck, EmperorJack, Volt
Unwrapping: Cron, jm82792
Sounds
General: Vortexxian, Volt
Story
Background: kharnov
Editing: Erwin_Rommel, The_Medistation
what kind of creature from hell are you?Maybe I killed him and am now posing as him on the forum.
y u guys discuss dis stuff on trem forums instead thar irc channel #tremz ???+1
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Probably because TremZ is made up of more than one developer.Can't they just nominate one person to provide the information rather than ten? I don't even know who is part of this project anymore. I think volt has something to do with it though...
Kharnov, volt, and I are the main people speaking to the community, since we all have expertise in different areas. For a full list of people involved in the project, we have nice little list right here http://uncannygaming.com/?page_id=2 (http://uncannygaming.com/?page_id=2)
In my new designation as the sole point of contact for these forums regarding TremZ development
Thanks for the support, Ruboco
It's January already, wheres our beta release?
I thought someone said it was supposed to come out on christmas
Yes I'll admit I'm lazy.
Yes I do give nothing but problems.
Hurry up before I leave trem for goodwhat for? :police:
what for? :police:Um, cause this game is not rely working on my laptop very good for some reason.
I'll never rely leave trem anyways.:'(