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Title: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: Pazuzu on April 01, 2012, 09:06:01 pm
Set up a word filter that changes any mention of "Unvanquished" or "TremZ" to "Half Life 3"! ;D ;D ;D




















Seriously though, shut the fuck up and go back to doing something productive. All of you. TremZ has yet to show any evidence of actually doing any work, rather than immature e-politics, and Unvanquished should know better than to get involved in this little pissing contest. On the forums for Tremulous. Which is still a separate game. It's not like anything else is going to happen on these forums, but I'd rather have it be dead than a dick-waving contest. I honestly didn't think you jackasses could irritate me this much, but there you are.
Fuck you all.
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: Qrntz on April 01, 2012, 09:57:10 pm
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Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: RAKninja-Decepticon on April 01, 2012, 10:58:42 pm
 :police:
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: CreatureofHell on April 01, 2012, 11:09:06 pm
I have just realised that volt is a genius. He started up a brilliant project to revamp Tremulous. This project gave birth to two new projects which are continuing his original goal. One of these projects has even produced something. This is a huge step forward for Tremulous.

Where is volt now? Nobody knows. But what I do know is that he doesn't have to deal with any of the drama going on.

No drama! Carefree! Wouldn't you like to be like that?
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: Garion on April 02, 2012, 12:09:48 am
Is Pazuzu seriously telling people to do something productive? Not only that, but he's also telling us that such futility is irritating him. For the remedy, I suggest you take a good cup of seriousness before coming back to these forums, Pazuzu.
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: Pazuzu on April 02, 2012, 12:40:45 am
words
(http://www.innocentenglish.com/cute-pictures/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/cute-baby-rabbit-sleeping.jpg)
You lost me at "Garion".
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: Garion on April 02, 2012, 02:21:48 am
words
(http://www.innocentenglish.com/cute-pictures/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/cute-baby-rabbit-sleeping.jpg)
You lost me at "Garion".

I'm not surprised.
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: your face on April 02, 2012, 02:59:07 am
Pazuzu:
*says not to get involved in the drama*
*gets involved in the drama*
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: SamOz on April 02, 2012, 04:08:15 am
TremZ has yet to show any evidence of actually doing any work,

Incorrect, please read our forums. The game is being developed, and everyone is extremely busy on the team working on the game.

rather than immature e-politics

Nobody in the TremZ dev team is posting these troll threads. All the troll threads are posted here by Unvanquished supporters, most often by Unvanquished devs who apparently prefer to do that than develop their game.

Unvanquished should know better than to get involved in this little pissing contest.

"Get involved"??? It's only Unvanquished engaging in the troll thread creation.




Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: computerquip on April 02, 2012, 05:11:23 am
I'd ask for proof of Uvanquished not doing work (since I've seen the videos, the commits, and the asset creation myself) but we all know where this is going...
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: SamOz on April 02, 2012, 06:08:11 am
I'd ask for proof of TremZ not doing work (since I have seen the videos, the commits, and the asset creation myself) but you have none and would ignore facts regardless. TremZ will be released publicly when the TremZ developers believe it's ready. Not before.

And you will just have to wait like everyone else.   ;D

The END.
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: RAKninja-Decepticon on April 02, 2012, 09:48:13 am


No drama! Carefree! Wouldn't you like to be like that?
no, what kind of boring fuck do you take me for?

forums exist for many reasons.  almost invariably, when a FPS game is the heart of the forum, the forum is almost exclusively for talking shit and participating in drama.  remove the drama and we have...  nothing.

I'd ask for proof of TremZ not doing work (since I have seen the videos, the commits, and the asset creation myself) but you have none and would ignore facts regardless. TremZ will be released publicly when the TremZ developers believe it's ready. Not before.

And you will just have to wait like everyone else.   ;D

The END.
i am glad you have seen such evidence.  unlike unvanquished (or tremulous for that matter), i cannot load a page up and see work has been done on tremz.  i have to take the word of people who have proven themselves not the most trustworthy.

this level of closed source development...  using mainly open source materials mind you...  is laughable.  its like recoloring your favorite cartoon character, and uploading to deviantart with the admonishment "original character: do not steal"
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: Qrntz on April 02, 2012, 03:55:15 pm
its like recoloring your favorite cartoon character, and uploading to deviantart with the admonishment "original character: do not steal"
but I used the pen tool! it's original!!! >:(
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: CreatureofHell on April 02, 2012, 04:04:54 pm


No drama! Carefree! Wouldn't you like to be like that?
no, what kind of boring fuck do you take me for?

Someone read my post!  8)
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: GeneralScott on April 02, 2012, 07:19:15 pm
A good solution for the drama is for everyone to just stop talking about it... and wait until the final versions of each game come out, if they ever do.
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: Chomps123 on April 02, 2012, 07:23:17 pm
dito

i can wait so cant u guys
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: Survivor on April 02, 2012, 08:59:19 pm
Let's sum up the facts

TremZ versus Unvanquished. Go for the coming few days.
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: Nux on April 02, 2012, 09:54:27 pm
TremZ < Unvanquished

QED
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: GeneralScott on April 02, 2012, 11:04:41 pm
Wait... You did it! Thanks so much! :) :)
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: CreatureofHell on April 02, 2012, 11:08:10 pm
Let's sum up the facts
  • I'm grumpy
  • I'm an ancient moderator from long ago
  • I no longer care particularly for release dates of tremulous or its forks
  • I do care about a semblance of order on this forum
  • We didn't have an april's fool joke this year
  • Your idea is good enough
  • I'm grumpy

TremZ versus Unvanquished. Go for the coming few days.

<3
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: SamOz on April 03, 2012, 02:43:53 am
Wait... You did it! Thanks so much! :) :)

Good suggestion, GeneralScott

I'm craving a pizza

Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: your face on April 03, 2012, 06:51:42 am
at your expense.

oh and hi survivor!
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: janev on April 03, 2012, 01:10:38 pm
Let's sum up the facts
  • I'm grumpy
  • I'm an ancient moderator from long ago
  • I no longer care particularly for release dates of tremulous or its forks
  • I do care about a semblance of order on this forum
  • We didn't have an april's fool joke this year
  • Your idea is good enough
  • I'm grumpy

TremZ versus Unvanquished. Go for the coming few days.

Mother of God, we have a Survivor, Kill it with Fire!
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: Survivor on April 03, 2012, 02:13:19 pm
at your expense.

oh and hi survivor!

Eya Face. How's your projects going? Any more diamonds in your portfolio of maps?

To janev: damn good to talk to you old boy. I'm still immortal
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: your face on April 03, 2012, 08:06:29 pm
yeah! (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=10308.0)  well last year I finished that, but no one plays it because it is a pile of crap.  heh, come to think of it, I guess not much has changed at all! :P
what have you been up to?
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: /dev/humancontroller on April 04, 2012, 12:55:39 am
Let's sum up the facts
  • I'm grumpy
  • I'm an ancient moderator from long ago
  • I no longer care particularly for release dates of tremulous or its forks
  • I do care about a semblance of order on this forum
  • We didn't have an april's fool joke this year
  • Your idea is good enough
  • I'm grumpy

TremZ versus Unvanquished. Go for the coming few days.
COGTWIDDLER !
oh well, i guess it was an April Fools joke to edit all the occurences of "Unvanquished" and "TremZ". Survivor, now that April Fools has passed, it's time to revert the foolery and continue with the discussions seriously.
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: SamOz on April 04, 2012, 09:29:16 am
Drop it. Go and develop your game. That's what we're doing, and so should you.
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: CreatureofHell on April 04, 2012, 12:27:11 pm
Let's sum up the facts
  • I'm grumpy
  • I'm an ancient moderator from long ago
  • I no longer care particularly for release dates of tremulous or its forks
  • I do care about a semblance of order on this forum
  • We didn't have an april's fool joke this year
  • Your idea is good enough
  • I'm grumpy

TremZ versus Unvanquished. Go for the coming few days.
COGTWIDDLER !
oh well, i guess it was an April Fools joke to edit all the occurences of "Unvanquished" and "TremZ". Survivor, now that April Fools has passed, it's time to revert the foolery and continue with the discussions seriously.

There has never been a serious discussion on this topic and there never will be. Stop fooling yourself.

Drop it. Go and develop your game. That's what we've been doing, and so should you.
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: Creative1 on April 04, 2012, 01:31:12 pm
GUYS











This smore poptart I'm eating

it's amazing.
:laugh:
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: Chomps123 on April 04, 2012, 01:35:02 pm
uh...
off topic
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: /dev/humancontroller on April 04, 2012, 02:50:30 pm
Survivor, now that April Fools has passed, it's time to revert the foolery and continue with the discussions seriously.

There has never been a serious discussion on this topic and there never will be.
WRONG.
Quote
Go and develop your game.
what have YOU been doing, CreatureofHell?
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: CreatureofHell on April 04, 2012, 06:12:51 pm
Quote
Go and develop your game.
what have YOU been doing, CreatureofHell?

That's SamOz's quote...
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: /dev/humancontroller on April 05, 2012, 01:28:46 am
Quote
Go and develop your game.
what have YOU been doing, CreatureofHell?

That's SamOz's quote...
so? why are you hesitating to answer the question? you really done nothing. you don't even have the permission to question my commitment to the project.
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: Survivor on April 05, 2012, 11:42:19 am
COGTWIDDLER !
oh well, i guess it was an April Fools joke to edit all the occurences of "Unvanquished" and "TremZ". Survivor, now that April Fools has passed, it's time to revert the foolery and continue with the discussions seriously.

Although there's been a bit of serious discussion at the start of this wonderful soap opera, it now has devolved to the point of a back-and-forth where the only purpose seems to be to put one's own favored group in a good light and the other group in a corner. This is possibly to garner transfers from the playerbase of Tremulous itself, and prevent people preferring the other 'other' Tremulous.

However, that is not something which needs to happen, and definitely does not need to happen here. If either (the inclusive kind) of the two groups makes a game worth playing then you'll have something to fight with. At the moment it's just two parties going at each other with those inflatable clubs, to try and see who blew theirs up the hardest, or can deflate the other one. That's not what this forum is about.

Thus I'll set the rules for discussing these two modifications of the game this forum is actually about:

Both groups are welcome to help and be helped in the forums of the 'Media' and 'Mods' categories, as long as they keep to the set topic for those forums.

And no, I won't change the word filter back just yet. It didn't even start on April's Fools day, I just used that as an off-side excuse to place it in. I think for as long as the two parties behave like fools we'll keep it in.
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: RAKninja-Decepticon on April 05, 2012, 07:34:36 pm
... That's not what this forum is about.

the hell you say!?

a forum who's expressed purpose is not trolling and drama?

you are insane!  that'll never work!
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: cron on April 06, 2012, 06:13:43 am
I have just realised that Player1 is a genius. He started up a brilliant project to revamp Tremulous. This project gave birth to two new projects which are continuing his original goal. One of these projects has even produced something. This is a huge step forward for Tremulous.

Where is Player1 now? Nobody knows. But what I do know is that he doesn't have to deal with any of the drama going on.

No drama! Carefree! Wouldn't you like to be like that?

Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: /dev/humancontroller on April 06, 2012, 08:16:51 am
Although there's been a bit of serious discussion at the start of this wonderful soap opera, it now has devolved to the point of a back-and-forth where the only purpose seems to be to put one's own favored group in a good light and the other group in a corner. This is possibly to garner transfers from the playerbase of Tremulous itself, and prevent people preferring the other 'other' Tremulous.
but we offer the truth, while they offer bullshit.
However, that is not something which needs to happen, and definitely does not need to happen here. If either (the inclusive kind) of the two groups makes a game worth playing then you'll have something to fight with. At the moment it's just two parties going at each other with those inflatable clubs, to try and see who blew theirs up the hardest, or can deflate the other one. That's not what this forum is about.

Thus I'll set the rules for discussing these two modifications of the game this forum is actually about:
  • Copyright, trademark and other legal issues of these two modifications, but only when they also pertain to Tremulous itself as it stands now: Feedback Forum (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?board=3.0)
  • Alpha and other true test release announcements: Mod Releases (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?board=9.0)
  • Beta-Release/Final release announcements: General Discussion (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?board=1.0)
  • All the other drama: one and only one topic created by me in Off Topic (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=16534.new#new)
the discussion between the two projects is none of your business. the relevant topics are even in the correct subforum: Off Topic. moving on-topic discussions (ie., off-topic discussions residing in the Off Topic subforum) has a slight touch of censorship, which is Paradox-like, SamOz-like, etc. behaviour.
Title: Re: An impartial solution for solving the TremZ/Unvanquished drama!
Post by: Survivor on April 06, 2012, 11:48:51 am
but we offer the truth, while they offer bullshit.
And the other party will claim the same.

the discussion between the two projects is none of your business. the relevant topics are even in the correct subforum: Off Topic. moving on-topic discussions (ie., off-topic discussions residing in the Off Topic subforum) has a slight touch of censorship, which is Paradox-like, SamOz-like, etc. behaviour.
As a moderator the content of this forum is my business. When an entire board starts being overrun by different topics which have essentially the same core that is discussed, that board can be called 'core topic' board. And guess what, it's not called that. Yet still at the time of posting 12 out of 30 topics on the first page of this board have to do with either or both parties. (Where forum is all boards of the forum, and this board refers to off-topic)
As a moderator I can choose to move, merge, lock or delete these topics. Let's look at what that would entail:
Thus I choose to relieve the board by revaluing the discussion between them (not of either fork! That might go in the mod board), to one new topic in off-topic.
Stickied for easy access in the most appropriate board, from now on coherent for sourcing and linking/reading back. If you want you can even create an index post of the thread on the first page, and keep its links updated so the development of discussion can be seen. If anything I just made the job easier, while minimizing the in your faceness (with no harm meant to your_face) of all these discussions to other people who aren't even interested.

If you want to claim i'm an oppresive dick who censors stuff you're welcome to get reviews of my method of moderating from many old members here, or just read the above bit about why I did it like this. You'll soon find out I think about stuff before I do it, but hate typing up complex answers, because it takes time and people will find something they don't like about it anyway.

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