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General => Feedback => Topic started by: /dev/humancontroller on September 04, 2012, 03:17:22 pm

Title: WE'VE GOT A BIG, FUCKING BOT PROBLEM
Post by: /dev/humancontroller on September 04, 2012, 03:17:22 pm
RED ALERT !

it appears that the forums are being attacked by a bunch of bots !

i don't know what the bots' plans are, but:
- they're posting generic messages, such as "hi, i am <...>" and "i really like this site", among other bot-like cut-ups of websearch-yielded results, such as "Tremulous is a game that <...>".
- they're not interacting with anyone: they reply to random topics, but never reply to messages directed at them.
- they're replying to dead topics.
- they're exhibiting epic communication failures, which provoke corrections and controversy; unfortunately, this may appear to be the cause of retardedness, but i'll tell you: this can be attributed to "botism".
- it has surprized me that they still haven't edited their posts to contain advertisements (which would be a common sp4mbot practice).

the net result is that the forums become full of posts that are for the sake of being posted. sp4m like this reprehensible even if posted in the Off-topic section.

the 4 bots i see are: Mailosh (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=29133), Juicklly (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=29128), Eugener (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=29098), and Stewarren (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=29067). these accounts have common patterns:
- all have registered recently (in the last month).
- (as i already said) they have a common behavior.
- they have a common MSN address pattern: <first_name>.<last_name><random_number>@yahoo.com.
- two of the said bots, Juicklly and Mailosh have the same MSN address.
Title: Re: WE'VE GOT A BIG, FUCKING BOT PROBLEM
Post by: CreatureofHell on September 04, 2012, 03:21:09 pm
At least there's some forum activity...
Title: Re: WE'VE GOT A BIG, FUCKING BOT PROBLEM
Post by: Ingar on September 04, 2012, 05:58:30 pm
WE'VE GOT A BIG, FUCKING BOT PROBLEM
Yes, all caps topic subjects
Title: Re: WE'VE GOT A BIG, FUCKING BOT PROBLEM
Post by: RAKninja-Decepticon on September 04, 2012, 08:49:43 pm
At least there's some forum activity...
...and the bots in question are more entertaining than a great deal of the userbase.
Title: Re: WE'VE GOT A BIG, FUCKING BOT PROBLEM
Post by: vcxzet on September 04, 2012, 08:50:30 pm
Nothing unusual. It happens to the forums of dead games.
Title: Re: WE'VE GOT A BIG, FUCKING BOT PROBLEM
Post by: Se7en on September 05, 2012, 08:23:24 am
surprized

WRONG
Title: Re: WE'VE GOT A BIG, FUCKING BOT PROBLEM
Post by: Dracone on September 05, 2012, 08:25:25 am
Nothing unusual. It happens to the forums of dead games.

unusual.

unusual.

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

RED ALERT !

 :police:
Title: Re: WE'VE GOT A BIG, FUCKING BOT PROBLEM
Post by: /dev/humancontroller on September 05, 2012, 03:00:39 pm
it has surprized me that they still haven't edited their posts to contain advertisements

surprized

WRONG
how the fuck do you know whether i am surprize (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/surprize)d or not? i know myself better than you.
Title: Re: WE'VE GOT A BIG, FUCKING BOT PROBLEM
Post by: Se7en on September 05, 2012, 06:18:19 pm
LOL RUN TO THE HILLS HEMAD
Title: Re: WE'VE GOT A BIG, FUCKING BOT PROBLEM
Post by: JOURNEYMAN on September 06, 2012, 01:07:13 pm
Implement captcha.  It would significantly reduce the spambots.
Title: Re: WE'VE GOT A BIG, FUCKING BOT PROBLEM
Post by: /dev/humancontroller on September 06, 2012, 02:05:36 pm
Implement captcha.  It would significantly reduce the spambots.
WRONG. what do you think is currently in use?
Title: Re: WE'VE GOT A BIG, FUCKING BOT PROBLEM
Post by: Celestial_Rage on September 06, 2012, 02:31:21 pm
A custom question might be more fruitful. "Name the alien builder class" or something of the like.
Title: Re: WE'VE GOT A BIG, FUCKING BOT PROBLEM
Post by: vcxzet on September 06, 2012, 03:23:54 pm
A custom question might be more fruitful. "Name the alien builder class" or something if the like.
Actually captcha the question, spambots probably will enter the question.
or
Use plain text for the question and place random captchas that are not the answers.
or
Distribute the question in randomly ordered captchas
Title: Re: WE'VE GOT A BIG, FUCKING BOT PROBLEM
Post by: RAKninja-Decepticon on September 06, 2012, 06:54:24 pm
Implement captcha.  It would significantly reduce the spambots.
WRONG. what do you think is currently in use?
fairy dust and good intentions?
Title: Re: WE'VE GOT A BIG, FUCKING BOT PROBLEM
Post by: CorSair on September 06, 2012, 09:31:42 pm
When new user posts, mods/admins must approve their first post(s) and topic(s). Crude, but very effective nonetheless. (Excluding the effectiveness of moderator/administrator.)
Title: Re: WE'VE GOT A BIG, FUCKING BOT PROBLEM
Post by: jr2 on September 07, 2012, 02:31:32 am
OK, how about an animated captcha that scrolls the question across the captcha window.  The entire question is not present in any one frame, so maybe that would help.
Title: Re: WE'VE GOT A BIG, FUCKING BOT PROBLEM
Post by: Nux on September 07, 2012, 02:00:58 pm
Clearly what we need is for each new user to single-handedly complete a unique ARG (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternate_reality_game) before they're allowed to register on our forums. Something like having a hidden hyperlink on the page that when clicked sends you to a blank page with Morse code playing in the background that transcribes into words from the PGP Word List which when decoded into hex gives a broken program that when fixed writes a second program that prints a hint to go to a location in Alaska where you will meet two men, one of whom cannot lie and...
Title: Re: WE'VE GOT A BIG, FUCKING BOT PROBLEM
Post by: /dev/humancontroller on September 07, 2012, 04:14:28 pm
A custom question might be more fruitful. "Name the alien builder class" or something of the like.
Quote from: some d00d who is about to register
wtf? i came here to find out more about the game. wtf is a class?
Quote from: some other d00d who is about to register
SPRECKEN ZE DUOTCH?

Implement captcha.  It would significantly reduce the spambots.
WRONG. what do you think is currently in use?
fairy dust and good intentions?
WRONG. currently in use are: captchas.

When new user posts, mods/admins must approve their first post(s) and topic(s). Crude, but very effective nonetheless.
WRONG. in this particular case, i reported (on IRC) the existence of all 4 bots (to Ingar, a forum admin), mentioning the high probability of sp4m (future post editing), but after he read the posts of the bots, he strongly believed that the bots were real people and did not intend to sp4m. just as many other users on this forum believed (and not just any users, but regulars, who should be experienced in forum behavior).
Title: Re: SHOCKING NEWS: DEVHC has a problem with everything!
Post by: your face on September 07, 2012, 06:17:30 pm
At least there's some forum activity...
...and the bots in question are more entertaining than a great deal of the userbase.
yes very true A+ for figuring out I award thee the crown of wowoowwowowow congratulations you are onto something here wow you are amazing

wait OH CRAP we don't HAVE a userbase!!!!!!!!!!

WOW!
SHOCKING NEWS.


(atleast the bots have nicer things to say than devhc/rakninja [has anyone checked their ips yet to make sure they aren't the same person?] anyways  :police:. i mean if i was stuck in a room and i could pick between devhc/rakninja and a bot it would definitely be a bot. just sayin')
Title: Re: SHOCKING NEWS: DEVHC has a problem with everything!
Post by: Qrntz on September 07, 2012, 06:28:52 pm
:police:
Title: Re: SHOCKING NEWS: DEVHC has a problem with everything!
Post by: RAKninja-Decepticon on September 07, 2012, 07:17:47 pm
At least there's some forum activity...
...and the bots in question are more entertaining than a great deal of the userbase.
yes very true A+ for figuring out I award thee the crown of wowoowwowowow congratulations you are onto something here wow you are amazing

wait OH CRAP we don't HAVE a userbase!!!!!!!!!!

WOW!
SHOCKING NEWS.


(atleast the bots have nicer things to say than devhc/rakninja [has anyone checked their ips yet to make sure they aren't the same person?] anyways  :police:. i mean if i was stuck in a room and i could pick between devhc/rakninja and a bot it would definitely be a bot. just sayin')


 :police: 6c  :police:

in addition, you are a mod, you should be able to see ips yourself.  if i didnt know better, i would say that you were harassing me.
Title: Re: SHOCKING NEWS: DEVHC has a problem with everything!
Post by: your face on September 07, 2012, 07:44:03 pm
wow you must be sherlock

must be that super hardcore army training they put you through.  :D
Title: Re: SHOCKING NEWS: DEVHC has a problem with everything!
Post by: Nux on September 07, 2012, 11:31:46 pm
(atleast the bots have nicer things to say than devhc/rakninja [has anyone checked their ips yet to make sure they aren't the same person?] anyways  :police:. i mean if i was stuck in a room and i could pick between devhc/rakninja and a bot it would definitely be a bot. just sayin')

Considering the arguments those two get into, I'm going to presume it isn't one person with DID (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_identity_disorder). Besides if I were going to accuse two users of being the same person I would go with devhc and vcxzet: Though I'm fairly sure they're separate people too, at least they seem to share viewpoints more often.

I'll also say that I still don't see much point in making the decline of these forums a talking point / excuse to drop what standards we had. It should really be a case of being civil with the few people who care to stick around and chat: Not for the sake of the survival of these forums but for the sake of civility itself.
Title: Re: SHOCKING NEWS: DEVHC has a problem with everything!
Post by: your face on September 08, 2012, 12:02:24 am
wait, these forums had standards at one point?

but ok ok, alright, I hereby resign my moderatorship.
Title: Re: SHOCKING NEWS: DEVHC has a problem with everything!
Post by: RAKninja-Decepticon on September 08, 2012, 06:09:41 am
wait, these forums had standards at one point?

but ok ok, alright, I hereby resign my moderatorship.
why do you have this raging hard-on for me anyway?
Title: Re: SHOCKING NEWS: DEVHC has a problem with everything!
Post by: Flux on September 08, 2012, 06:19:04 am
guise just give devhc moderator/admin privileges and he can take care of all this for us.

GRATE  :o :o $$$$$$$$$$
Title: Re: SHOCKING NEWS: DEVHC has a problem with everything!
Post by: /dev/humancontroller on September 08, 2012, 08:32:44 am
I hereby resign my moderatorship.
unfortunately for me, i have option but to accept the offer to take your moderatorship. :P
Title: Re: SHOCKING NEWS: DEVHC has a problem with everything!
Post by: CreatureofHell on September 08, 2012, 11:34:43 am
wait, these forums had standards at one point?

but ok ok, alright, I hereby resign my moderatorship.
why do you have this raging hard-on for me anyway?


Juggalo clowns are all he ever thinks about nowadays.
Title: Re: SHOCKING NEWS: DEVHC has a problem with everything!
Post by: vcxzet on September 08, 2012, 05:08:18 pm
but ok ok, alright, I hereby resign my moderatorship.
Hah! I did that 3 months ago
Title: Re: SHOCKING NEWS: DEVHC has a problem with everything!
Post by: your face on September 08, 2012, 05:38:25 pm
I hereby reinstate you as moderator!
Title: Re: SHOCKING NEWS: DEVHC has a problem with everything!
Post by: janev on September 08, 2012, 07:56:39 pm
Here have a Cup of Drama.
(http://images.dpchallenge.com/images_challenge/0-999/780/800/Copyrighted_Image_Reuse_Prohibited_619367.jpg)
Title: Re: SHOCKING NEWS: DEVHC has a problem with everything!
Post by: your face on September 10, 2012, 04:22:43 pm
i see your cup and raise you a pint!
(http://www.enemyofpeanuts.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/merry-pippin.jpg)
Title: Re: SHOCKING NEWS: DEVHC has a problem with everything!
Post by: CreatureofHell on September 10, 2012, 05:03:50 pm
I see your pint and raise you 5 gallons and an airlock system.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/5-Gallon-Wine-Beer-Aging-Barrel-w-airlock-system-/13/!B90-YHQ!Wk~$(KGrHqV,!gsEy182,0!KBM67lI3etg~~0_35.JPG)
Title: Re: SHOCKING NEWS: DEVHC has a problem with everything!
Post by: janev on September 10, 2012, 07:48:45 pm
Here have a pool.
(http://www.quirkyguide.com/qg2/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/SwimmInBeer_StarkenberdBierschwimmbad.jpg)
Title: Re: SHOCKING NEWS: DEVHC has a problem with everything!
Post by: ULTRA Random ViruS on September 11, 2012, 01:32:09 pm
I hereby resign my moderatorship.
unfortunately for me, i have option but to accept the offer to take your moderatorship. :P
First mission: Remove all viruses... Bots are insignificant in comparison to chatty viruses
Me: :'(
Title: Re: SHOCKING NEWS: DEVHC has a problem with everything!
Post by: Conzul on September 16, 2012, 05:38:34 am
[after losing 25 consecutive games of solitaire, Conzul decides to see if tremulous is alive...it turns out that the wheel is still spinning, but the hamster is dead]
Title: Re: SHOCKING NEWS: DEVHC has a problem with everything!
Post by: your face on September 16, 2012, 06:59:31 pm
well put
Title: Re: SHOCKING NEWS: DEVHC has a problem with everything!
Post by: ULTRA Random ViruS on September 19, 2012, 01:19:44 pm
Here have a pool.
(http://www.quirkyguide.com/qg2/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/SwimmInBeer_StarkenberdBierschwimmbad.jpg)
Took me to realise what that actually was. Yuck.
Title: Re: WE'VE GOT A BIG, FUCKING BOT PROBLEM
Post by: /dev/humancontroller on October 22, 2012, 02:15:58 pm
Jaidenner is another one, btw.

PS: your_face: you suck.
Title: Re: WE'VE GOT A BIG, FUCKING BOT PROBLEM
Post by: your face on October 22, 2012, 06:16:44 pm
i know, did you just figure that out? you must be slow. tell me something i don't know.
Title: Re: WE'VE GOT A BIG, FUCKING BOT PROBLEM
Post by: /dev/humancontroller on October 23, 2012, 03:34:42 am
i know, did you just figure that out? you must be slow. tell me something i don't know.
no. no. and these are something that you didn't know until now, and it's not that you would have been somewhat slow to figure these out, but you never would have figured these out on your own.
Title: Re: WE'VE GOT A BIG, FUCKING BOT PROBLEM
Post by: your face on October 23, 2012, 04:45:03 pm
you aren't my only psychiatrist
Title: Re: WE'VE GOT A BIG, FUCKING BOT PROBLEM
Post by: vcxzet on November 16, 2012, 07:20:52 pm
Check the websites of members with 0 posts.
Mostly spam.
Also:
(http://i.imgur.com/dWqYE.png)
Somehow they all have the same ICQ number.