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Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on August 01, 2003, 06:44:13 am
Well, I always end up posting random update pictures all over the place, so I thought I should start my own thread where I'll post random pictures of what I'm working on.

Edit:  Some of the larger pics and all the videos have been removed cause sourceforge got mad at us for using so much webspace  :oops:
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on August 01, 2003, 06:48:47 am
Okay, so here's my first update:
Timbo just put in some code for the jetpack, so I quickly whipped up a model to test it out:
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/jetpack-wip.jpg)
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/jetpack-ingame1.jpg)
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/jetpack-ingame3.jpg)

you can also see the chaingun over there... my skinning job is crap, but luckily stannum is going to do it for me :)

oh... and I guess you can see the new head I'm working on.  Its based on one of crylar's sketches.  right now its using sarge's skin, but sometime some one should make a new skin.  I messed up the bottom part of the head so I took the bottom part of the helmet I'm making and put it there.  

I guess you guys might also want to see more of the head and new helmet, so I'll post those next :)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on August 01, 2003, 07:02:38 am
Here's a more clear view of the head Im working on...
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/newhead-ingame2.jpg)
If you look closely, theres a small line that goes through the red part of the red lens'.  It scrolls down and repeats, just a fun little thing I added.  The red also glows in the dark :D

(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/newhelmet-ingame3.jpg)
and theres the new helmet.  Jex did the skinning, and again (if you look closely) you can see sarge's face in there...hopefully to be replaced :P  The shading on the helmet seems to be a bit messed up, but it won't look like that normally.

Oh, and thats the pulse rifle being held there.  I skinned it, but I think Jex will fix it up :)

well, I think thats all for today, maybe tomorrow I'll post some pics if I do some work on the big mofo :)


ahh heck, heres a pic of the soldier for the alien side Im working on.... sorry it doesn't have a head :P  I'm workin on it

(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/soldier2-v3-ingame2.jpg)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Godmil on August 01, 2003, 11:52:49 am
Oooh I hadn't seen the soldier yet.. funky :)

oh and I'm Soooo desperate to see the red glowing eyes in the dark....

thinking of deleting a few lights sources just for that ;)

by the way, the chain gun is a pretty sweet model :D


and for you guys sitting in anticipation at the mods release.. let me just rub it in that the Jetpack is Sooooooooooo Fun to use :D
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on August 01, 2003, 06:10:52 pm
Nice looking. I like the helmet with the big visor. And the PulsRifle model is sweet to :)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on August 03, 2003, 03:39:53 am
yay! timbo fixed the jetpack and flame thrower up real nice.  I also made a little jet that comes out of the jet pack when you turn it on...
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/ingame1.jpg)
So thats me flying around and spraying the alien hivemind with flames...you can see the flame thrower isn't skinned yet, but jex is working on that.  You can also see one of the icons that jex made for the jet pack.

(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/ingame2.jpg)
In this one, I tried to think of the ultimate sniper.  So, has a jetpack to fly up to a great sniping location, a helmet that has a radar in it to tell you when aliens are getting near, and a nuclear powered mass driver that still needs to be skinned :P  You can also see jex's new icon for the helmet in there

(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/ingame3.jpg)
And lastly, I just took this pic cause I thought it looked cool :)  Thats the advanced contruction kit he's holding there, btw.  Almost the same as the normal one, but it has an extra screen on the side, a shader that makes little white particles flow through the main body's blue section, its a little bigger, and it can build quite a few more structures :)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on August 03, 2003, 10:39:28 am
Sweet pics. I really like the icons, very nice. But I hoped to see a longer and bigger sniper :-?
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Godmil on August 03, 2003, 05:37:10 pm
have to rush, cant give big reply....

just:



OMG THOSE PICS ARE COOL!
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on August 03, 2003, 08:16:35 pm
For Godmil:    :D
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/ingame4.jpg)
Its slightly manipulated, basically just the fuzzyness around the eyes. I didnt like the jagged edges...



and I'm not sure if you could get a good view of the mass driver in that pic crylar, here's a view from the side:
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/ingame5.jpg)
Although, you may still be right bigger=better :)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on August 03, 2003, 11:23:53 pm
Wow, the glowing eyes are cooler then I thought.

You are right "bigger=better" :D but the one is bigger then it look like in the prev pic.

I like the blue line :D
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Godmil on August 04, 2003, 12:03:01 am
Fantastic!

Thats it light levels definitly dropping in my map :)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on August 04, 2003, 07:53:31 pm
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/bigmofo-wip6.jpg)

Ok, I accually imported crylars sketch into 3ds max so it would be more accurate.  although I changed the number of legs he has :D  I'm not quite sure what to do with the back legs. they look kinda awkward :-?

oh and, sorry about the size of the image :)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on August 04, 2003, 08:58:53 pm
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!! :D  :D  :D

Cool in all ways :) great job. 6 legs are OK, its still as cool. And those arms looks like they could harm someone pretty well ;), and the tail part is allso cool, REALLY NICE!  :D
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Godmil on August 05, 2003, 02:00:03 pm
I'm dying to see that ingame... if the size of it is as big as I'm hoping it could be the scariest thing ever to turn a corner and run into it :D

[edit] Gawd I really want to see that bite someones head off :D [/edit]
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on August 05, 2003, 07:18:40 pm
Yeah me too, I'm really hoping its going to be really Really REALLY big :)
. . . . . . . . . . . ,,,,,
. . . . . . . . . . ////.
. . . . . . . . g/// \\\
. _O_. . . . ._/ .v===
.|. | .|. . . . . . . ///___
. . A . . . . . . . .\\\AAA=>
. ./. \. . . . . . . . //||\\

Behold my leet ascii skills ;)

"edit" ofcorse 'space' wouln't work so lets try dots "edit"
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on August 07, 2003, 03:55:54 am
Sorry, I don't really have anything new to show everyone...but I finished skinmapping the mofo today, and have the bones setup to be rigged.  I think later today I'll try to work on cool legs :)

oh and, nice ascii    :wink:


[edit]  Ok, I've worked on "cool legs" so I guess you people get some screens, but let me warn you, its STILL A WIP!!!!  Something went wrong when I mirrored and welded the thing together and now it looks like a frog man :P  Hopefully this can be fixed.  The hands/feet are a bit messed up too, so plz bear with me.
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/coollegs-wip3.jpg)
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/coollegs-wip4.jpg)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Godmil on August 07, 2003, 11:07:39 am
Quote from: "ERR:OverFlow"
Sorry, I don't really have anything new to show everyone...


HAHAHAHA, only you, Overflow,  could feel quilty about not having released something after 3 days ;D

for everyone else... honestly the guy is that prolific a modeller :)
(not that we'd have it any other way ;) )

I like the froggy thing, but question: whats that on its back?
I like the posture, looks like its about to do a Huge leap attack :)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on August 07, 2003, 06:44:55 pm
yeah, I guess its supposed to be armor of some sort... the render made it look too rounded though...I also was wondering if I should get rid of them, but it looked funny when I took the front one off so how about this:
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/coollegs-wip6.jpg)

And its not supposed to look like a frog! :P

Anyways.... last night I set up a brazil render of the rifle and when I wake it its done! so, here you go:
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/weapons/rifle-brzl-dof-big.jpg)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on August 08, 2003, 08:57:33 pm
k not really how I thought of it but...

Cool render on the gun :D
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on August 08, 2003, 09:51:18 pm
yeah, it didnt turn out right... but I guess we want 6 legged aliens anyways, that one didnt really fit the theme we have going   :-?    Anyways... I put a head on the soldier.  I think it looks like a beaver head stuck on to a spider, but the others seem to like it :P
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/spiderbeaver2.jpg)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: M123 on August 08, 2003, 10:44:33 pm
Maybe this will help with making creppy aliens.

http://www.ecologicproductions.com/video_projects/TSCK/endangered/TSCK_spider.html
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on August 09, 2003, 11:34:20 am
Hey yeah, nice body and meny legs are cool ;)

But I'd go with you on the head it look really wierd :-?

"edit" M123, that spide movie was like... wicked, pretty big spider "edit"
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: M123 on August 11, 2003, 06:26:20 pm
Just hoping to add some inspiration in making tremulous aliens as scary as possible. Grossest creature I could find.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on August 13, 2003, 10:05:17 am
I almost want to try to get someone else to do the aliens, I cant seem to do much with them  :(

But electro (our new mapper) wanted me a make a map object, and that was more my style.  :D    So here's a couple shots of it.  I doubt the glass will look that nice ingame...although it looks a bit messed up there.  Anyways, we're going to get some liquid in there and an alien to float around for some fun map ambiance.

(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/canister2.jpg)
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/canister3.jpg)

(for you careful observers, yes the second pic is a bit different from the first.  The first is the newer version)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on August 17, 2003, 09:11:07 am
bah! its too quiet around here, I thought you guys would be mildly interested in my map model.  but no!   Now I have to post some random stuff....

(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/bigmofo-wip7.jpg)

It has a skeleton, and mop is working on a skin, while ravvy is doing the animations.  So I just played around with the skeleton and got this :P  Oh... the general public probably doesnt know who those 2 people are.  Well, Timbo sent out a call for help over at polycount and we got ravvy, and I think mop was just some guy thats on a irc channel somewhere.  But both are very good :)


I've been working (that real type of work that gets me money so that I can afford a place to stay and some food) and I can't get as much time in for trem. :(  

But it looks like we need more fans....  well, maybe we can wait until the first release for the fans, but we do need to do quite a bit of play testing....  Maybe timbo will recruit some testers :)


[edit] m123, I think we're trying to kinda stay way from the spider kind of aliens.  Although that soldier is a bad example... on paper it looked more like a beetle :/  Thanks for the thought though :) [/edit]
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: M123 on August 19, 2003, 12:40:31 am
Already figured it out about the spiders.

Fans will probably come if the mod is good. But a little advertising won't hurt and better no months of no updates. If it wasn't for Timbo updating the code every so much time, I would have thought this mod dead some time ago.

Keep up the good work.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on August 21, 2003, 08:25:28 am
yeah, having been a long time fan myself, I was always hungry for screenshots.  Thats probably why I'm posting so many :D

Speaking of which....  I had today off from work, and Timbo had suggested (jokingly) that I should make a new human player model so that the new blaster sidearm could be a one handed weapon and not look funny with the sarge model (who is made to hold weapons with both hands), so of course I get bored and started making the model.  And it turned out pretty good to my surprise.  

I always seem to get things right on the first try and never again...

Of course a few things have to be tweaked, but I thought a screenshot would be nice for all you fans out there.


(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/hsoldier-WIP2.jpg)

mmmk, so his hands need a little work, also the elbows, and boots.  I'm thinking that I might make him a little taller too.  The model matches a reference I used, but because of the armor it makes him look a little wide.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on August 21, 2003, 06:17:00 pm
Kind of cool.

There can never be to much shots ;)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Godmil on August 28, 2003, 10:27:34 am
OMG, I go on holiday for a couple of weeks, in the middle of which (now) I think, I wonder how my Trem buddies are getting on...

and what do I find:

A new Human model!! :o

YEAH :D
Great work Over..

cant wait to see where its at when I get back :)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: PsychoBrat on August 29, 2003, 04:36:14 am
IMO for the glowing eyes you should make some faint red flares attached to the eyes somehow... it'd get red of the problem of the sharp edges in the dark... and look pretty damn creepy!

Also... any hints for us n00b skinner wanabees on how to get the cool faded look around the edge of a face, for example on that rifle render you whipped up?

-jEFF
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on August 29, 2003, 04:54:46 am
hm, I don't really do any skinning, thats mainly jex's department.  But the one skin I did make (and needs to be replaced) I just used an airbrush for the edges.  but that can get tedious very quickly...and it still doesn't look good unless you're jex :P

Im still not sure about that head.. it might be replaced, also I'm not sure if we could attach flares to models...maybe I'll ask timbo
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Godmil on August 29, 2003, 08:09:54 am
I've never skinned anything before, but I think (in Paint Shop Pro at least) there are tools called smudge, burn, and blur which can be used to change the brightness and stuff.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on August 30, 2003, 08:56:35 am
eeep, I haven't updated with another pic in quite some time now... so today I was feeling bad about not having done anything for a while and looked through crylars concept sketches, picked a head, and started working on it.  I really like how it turned out...but I can't think of a body to put it on to  :(
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/chimera-WIP1.jpg)
It kinda reminds me of predator, but I guess thats ok :)  Since this class (chimera) has lightning types of attacks, I can have some fun with shaders.  One of them being little bands of electricity flowing in-between those two things hanging off it's head.  

Timbo's also working on a nice feature for this class.  Since this class sits in the middle and has wall-walking for the lower classes and big evil killing land-dwelling classes above it, this class has something in-between.  It'll will be fairly fast, fairly powerful, and instead of wall-walking, it will have wall-jumping!

This wonderful idea of mine means that the player can jump to a wall and press jump again to jump off of that wall in the direction your corsshair is pointed.  Of course if the second jump gets you to another wall you can proceed to jump off of that and so on.  This ability should add yet another very exciting dimension to the alien gameplay experience. :)
(note: there might be some changes made in how exactly this works, timbo needs to figure out how to do it, and then probably quite a bit of play testing needs to be involved...)

[edit] Crylar: don't suppose you want to make some more sketches based on seeing this head and the description meantioned above? :) [/edit]
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Godmil on August 31, 2003, 10:51:37 am
OK first off... Head if f'ing cool :D

secondly:  Wall Jumping sounds Fantastic \o/
I hope timbo experiments with a few ways of making it work..
jumping in the direction of the crosshair can be useful but also a little confusing..

I can see that if the wall jumping is used to get somewhere difficult, perhaps in running from an attacker, it would be very useful to see where you're jumping...
but if you are doing the attacking, maybe your enemy is down a corridor and you use the wall jumping to confuse him while closing the distance, it could be prefrerable to be continulously looking forward - and maybe using the movement keys to determin the angle of jump (probably slightly harder to get the mechanics going in that one though)

- how I'd do that one is to have the player running forward, then to jump off the wall on the left he'd run parrallel to it, then jump and use strafe to move into it, then jump and strafe in the opposite direction to jump off(where the forward movement would still be in effect, a slight arc would be needed in the height of the jump, and the distance of the jump would be determined by how long the jump key was held down before releasing)

just a thought,

p.s. I just woke up and am still a little sleepy, so sorry if none of that makes sense ;)
catchya soon
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on September 01, 2003, 10:54:51 pm
Granger and Big Mofo skinned!
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/awwwww.jpg)
awwwwwww, so cute :)

[edit] and thanks to MoP for helping us out and making these awesome skins! yay! [/edit]
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Excalibur on September 02, 2003, 05:23:43 am
ohhhhhhhhhhh  :o   :o  :o  this game is gonna rock!
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Ogun on September 02, 2003, 01:15:05 pm
Looks nice! Ok, honestly, I didn't think it'd turn out that well!
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on September 02, 2003, 08:34:53 pm
OMFG, thats fcking AWESOME. Man I like there eyes and Mofos teeths.
:D  :D  :D
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Godmil on September 02, 2003, 10:30:20 pm
<3 MoP, you're a star :)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on September 02, 2003, 10:38:45 pm
test body for the chimera
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/chimera-WIP2.jpg)
Another set of legs will most likly be added, and maybe a few other cosmetic changes, but the others seem to like it.  Thanks to crylar for the sketches of both the body and head :D
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: M123 on September 03, 2003, 12:36:17 pm
Looking good.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on September 03, 2003, 08:04:30 pm
I think another set of legs sounds great, couse its to much space betwen the legs now.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: M123 on September 06, 2003, 12:05:49 am
Saw this thing on the Dicovery channel that once a creature reaches a certain size, having more than 4 legs becomes ineffecient.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on September 06, 2003, 08:27:39 am
yeah, probably.... but we (trem team) don't really care for reality, thats why we're playin'/makin' video games :)
Title: O M F G
Post by: Sandy on October 03, 2003, 08:54:28 pm
Soooo evil and soooo pretty those models are absolutely stunning.

Well done!
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on October 04, 2003, 05:16:56 am
:D thanks!  Ok, so my uni started a couple weeks ago, I just moved to a new apartment, and I'm working at a fast food place for 20 hours a week.  So I don't have a lot of time any more.  :(  But I do have this....
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/soldier-v3-WIP1.jpg)

It started out as that funny looking head, and was going to be the soldier, but I suggested, and Timbo agrees, that this model would accually probably be better as the dragoon.  And just in-case all of you readers are not up with all the tremulous info....
the dragoon is the second to highest level class.  It is quite powerful and has a leap attack that can be charged up.  The upgrade for this class also can shoot blobs that will freeze targets (and possibly distract gun turrets as well)

Problem is that the head doesnt work that great... so anyone have any suggestions? :)
If you can't get a sense of the model from that screenshot heres a little video: <video removed>
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on October 04, 2003, 05:28:57 am
btw, the model is rigged... and thats also why some of it looks a bit weird, have to work out some of the quirks.  It'll probably be about the same size as the big mofo, but not as tall...

I also found this nifty screenshot lying around in my "Random Tremulous Stuff" folder...
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/ingame6.jpg)
[edit] not the best pic to show it off, but the flame thrower is skinned :) [/edit]
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on October 04, 2003, 02:01:10 pm
Looking cool.

I might try to makeup a head :D
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Godmil on October 04, 2003, 10:20:15 pm
Fooking Nice Shot :o
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on October 16, 2003, 07:24:20 pm
I decided to keep one thing Im working on in trem a secret... so no screens for joo peoples for now  :wink:
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Godmil on October 17, 2003, 10:51:05 am
I think I know what it is ...

And it PWNS ALL!! :D

Mwahahahhaa
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on October 17, 2003, 05:30:53 pm
A onion jumpin around a screaming - "Tronoopia tronoopia, Fire in my hat"???

Was I right ? :D
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on November 27, 2003, 12:47:27 pm
hooray, I have some time off for thanksgiving.  Three days to be exact.  So today went by, and I animated the alien builder class, and got it in-game.

Sorry if its too dark, but I don't adjust things so I can say: "This image was taken directly from Tremulous with no post-editing"
<image removed>
It also shows off a bit of goddy's map  :D

Ok, so that doesnt really show that I accully animated it... so here's a WIP animation I made while I was working on it:  <video removed>  I think the video is using the latest DivX codec


and Crylar... not quite right, but close :P
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Godmil on November 27, 2003, 01:30:45 pm
ooh ooh :D  cant wait to see it moving :D

oh and its nice seeing how the scale works against that bit of my map.. thanks :)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on November 27, 2003, 05:49:44 pm
Hey, that is a pretty nice animation indeed.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on November 28, 2003, 10:23:29 am
Day 2:  Finished Big Mofo Animations
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/bigmofo-wip8.jpg)

The first image shows the mofo's taunt animation.  He roars.  
Second image shows his charge attack.  Thats where he goes crazy and mows through people.
Third image is just him standing there... being big...

perhaps too big, I might need to size him down.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Godmil on November 28, 2003, 12:39:04 pm
*Godmil sits in a pile of his own excrement

please give us warning before posting pics like that :(
I'm scared  :cry:



p.s. It can NEVER be "too big"  :D
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on November 28, 2003, 01:13:16 pm
what if I told you it wouldn't fit through a lot of the doors on your map? :)

just for reference... in the third shot I think sarge's head would be just below the mofo's chin.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Timbo on November 28, 2003, 05:25:12 pm
You know, we really ought to think up a less shit name.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Who on November 28, 2003, 05:30:59 pm
small mofo
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Godmil on November 28, 2003, 07:18:40 pm
Over.... I'll just make the doors bigger :)

alternativly we could make him crouch.

I love the idea of having a REALLY HUGE alien.. it will just be soo dramatic ingame  :D
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on November 29, 2003, 01:44:38 am
:lol:

by large I ment not just tall, but wide...  although I think most of your doors account for that.  definetly not jex's map though
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on November 29, 2003, 10:45:54 am
Day 3:  Jetpack...

Ok, so I didnt do very much today... but gimme a break, I have to relax a little bit right? :)

I really didnt like the old jetpack, so I re-made it.  (looking at crylar's sketches for refernce of course)  I also found out how to 'bake' textures.  This means that jex (or any other skinner for that matter) can start out with a very good skin that shows what the lighting should look like.  So... here it is:
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/ingame10.jpg)
The little colored bits on it come from the flamethrower.  The rest is the map's lighting and the skin itself.  
Oh yeah... since I had a new jetpack, I had to make new jets that shoot out of it....
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/jetpack-ingame4.jpg)


Jex has also been working very hard on skinning all those guns I made back then.  Because of my newbieness he also re-skinmapped almost all of them too...

Here's a pic of the mass driver:
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/ingame8.jpg)

(for you observant folks:  The mass driver is giving off a blue light, but the flash is green... still have to fix that  :-? )



Well, that was my thanksgiving break, have to go to work tomorrow :( then school and more work, then finals... and then christmas break!  3 weeks of nothing but eating good food, getting/giving presents, and tremulous modelling goodness.


oh and, all pictures in this post were taken directly from Tremulous with no post-processing besides cropping.... and file conversion/compression :P
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Excalibur on December 01, 2003, 03:32:04 am
you can never go to big. but what about making it so when it moves it crawls on all 6 legs or what ever that will take care of how tall it is.
about all the human shots are you gonna make a new human model or is it just gonna be sarge?
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on December 01, 2003, 10:27:16 am
Sarge fits the bill of what we want as a human player.  We will probably re-skin him for the first release, but will most likely create a new human player model for future releases.  

Right now, we kinda want to get a game out as soon as possible and a new human player wont add that much in the overall scheme of things.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Godmil on December 01, 2003, 02:29:14 pm
can we make it so that the Mofo can crouch, where he both ducks and pulls his legs in at the side...

I'd just really like to be a human in a room, then see this mass of alien squeezing through a door, then when he gets through to stand up and like tower over the room :D

I'm sure I'd cack my pants :P
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on December 01, 2003, 06:23:56 pm
Well, that's big enough for me. But shore, bigger would never hurt.

Its very nice to know that you have use of my sketches.

The massdriver looks Awsome with skin on. I hope there will be some cool efect or atleast a long railthing.

Godmil - Very nice idea. the big Mofo should be abel to chrouch or some thing, but that would ofcause make him alot slower.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on December 02, 2003, 03:08:59 am
wow... quadruple post, dont see those too often.  Should probably get a moderator to fix that...

 [edit] :D  there, all better [/edit]

and if we make the mofo crouch, I have to make more animations :(
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on December 02, 2003, 07:41:45 am
It was me who posted four times, cause when I clicked on 'Submit' I got some kind of connection error message.

But thanks for removeing them ;)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Kinnadian on December 04, 2003, 05:30:50 pm
I think with the jetpack and a sniper a big mofo wouldn't stand a chance, unless the the big mofo can throw some shit at em, very nice work as well overflow, I've been browsing, and this mod seems to be very promising  :o
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Excalibur on December 05, 2003, 01:28:40 am
Quote from: "Kinnadian"
I think with the jetpack and a sniper a big mofo wouldn't stand a chance, unless the the big mofo can throw some shit at em

yea that would be cool is there a way you can make like crates that you can pick up and throw cause that would be cool.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Who on December 05, 2003, 08:14:23 am
Quote from: "Excalibur"
you can make like crates that you can pick up and throw cause that would be cool.


I hate you.






Signed,
ROARER and CHARGER
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Excalibur on December 06, 2003, 08:51:45 am
Quote from: "Who"
I hate you.

i still love you who. :D
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Kinnadian on December 08, 2003, 05:26:39 pm
who is my hero, my hero is who  :o
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on December 11, 2003, 04:13:59 am
although not nessesary for our first release I thought it'd be nice to have animated 1st weapons, as well as the hand that you can always see carrying the weapon.  So after a few hours, I have a rigged hand... now I just need to uvw map it and get someone to skin it for me  :wink:


oh, and because the shot is just a screenshot from the editor, I'll link it instead of putting the picture up.

<image removed>
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on December 11, 2003, 10:38:17 am
Wow, that hand looks nice, very nice.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: M123 on December 11, 2003, 01:55:39 pm
It's a hand.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Kinnadian on December 11, 2003, 02:17:45 pm
but if you had no hand, you wouldn't be able to hold the gun, and it wouldn't look uber realistic, uhmmm for animations could u make the hand give someone the finger....that would be sweet  :lol:
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on December 12, 2003, 09:55:05 am
M123 -  Yeah I know its just a hand, but a hand can look many ways, and this one looks rather good. And this hand don't seem to use many polygons, and the polygons used on it is used very good.

And hands and armes in fps games very often looks like crap from the first person view. I have seen many hand in Mods for HL that makes you cry cause they are so ugely and NOT done well.

But sure if you mean "It's a hand." as in "It's a hand, a hand are no big deal for overflow cause he is leet." then I understand.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: M123 on December 12, 2003, 04:30:17 pm
It's a goodlooking hand. Nothing more, nothing less.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Kinnadian on December 12, 2003, 04:44:20 pm
just a question.....are any of the alien classes gonna have hands on the hud? or other eye candy goodness?, and since you got the new particle system goin good work timbo, and thanks for the demo Jex. can't wait to see the beta build  :D
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: M123 on December 12, 2003, 05:11:05 pm
The particle system video looks great, can't wait to see some maps using it. But maybe in a more standard codec, already got too many codecs installed.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on December 15, 2003, 05:27:55 pm
The snow that get sucked out the vents looks awsome :D
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Kinnadian on December 15, 2003, 05:53:42 pm
can't wait till I see an alien come runnin after me then flick the switch an watch em burn like ants with a magnified glass  :evil:
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on December 16, 2003, 07:49:41 am
One of the alien classes could have slime dripping out of its mouth, that would be cool. And if is left a trail a human could spott the trail and folow it, or something.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Godmil on December 16, 2003, 04:33:51 pm
heheheh a trail of drool :P  that would be great.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on December 17, 2003, 12:53:07 pm
Or (seans the Partical system seams pretty easy to use) maybe there could be an alien class with like thick yellow steam/gas comming out of his eyes(like Spawn if you have read it).

Do you understand what I mean??

 - me post pic to show -
(http://www.home.no/cry/eyes.png)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Kinnadian on December 17, 2003, 05:01:13 pm
the drooling idea is good, but why not have the alien builder leave a trail of blood whenever he builds something, so just say ur human, u come around the corner, and see blood on the floor, then u know how to prepare to die by me! :evil:
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Excalibur on December 17, 2003, 09:47:27 pm
:( man i wish i could draw like you  :(
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on December 18, 2003, 09:58:48 am
Thanks Excalibur  :D

or maybe we could have an alien clas just coverd in mist/gas :D you all you see is his eyes, teeths and legs. That would be just soooo awesome :D

Or maybe en alien class that breeds gas, so every now an then you can see hees breath in the air, kind of like when it cold outside you know ;)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Excalibur on December 18, 2003, 09:57:46 pm
that remindes me there is a alien class that can go invisi for like 5 secs? would be cool if he just let like a lot of smoke out really fast so they cant see anything but the alien can see like nightvision thing so he can see them that would be wicked
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Who on December 18, 2003, 10:54:23 pm
Quote from: "Excalibur"
that remindes me there is a alien class that can go invisi for like 5 secs? would be cool if he just let like a lot of smoke out really fast so they cant see anything but the alien can see like nightvision thing so he can see them that would be wicked


Please visit this forum: http://forums.planetgloom.com/index.php and never come back!
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Excalibur on December 19, 2003, 08:50:01 am
i dont go to planetgloom any more i got banned from it for saying i was quiting gloom  :lol:
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Who on December 19, 2003, 04:45:00 pm
Quote from: "Excalibur"
i dont go to planetgloom any more i got banned from it for saying i was quiting gloom  :lol:


Well you should be banned from here for joining the forum, then.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Kinnadian on December 19, 2003, 04:51:56 pm
I notice a flamer war brewing  :roll:
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Excalibur on December 19, 2003, 09:26:47 pm
i had a flame war with who before but then i grew up its all good now. :lol:
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Who on December 19, 2003, 10:49:49 pm
You must live in the future.


Can you tell me who is president in your year?
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: M123 on December 20, 2003, 01:07:28 am
Word to your mother.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Timbo on December 20, 2003, 01:37:44 am
Careful, if you continue this bickering in OverFlow's thread you'll make him :evil:
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Who on December 20, 2003, 03:23:42 am
I'll take the chance.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Excalibur on December 20, 2003, 10:23:23 am
well everyone knows that Linkin park are the presidents. :lol:
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on December 20, 2003, 12:30:51 pm
Linking park!!

Damn, I was voting for LimpBizkit, put I gusee they will have to do ;)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on December 22, 2003, 09:45:41 pm
dont make me moderate  :evil:

anyways... Ive been on winter break back home without my computer.  Good thing MoP is around to skin and animate thems aliens
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on January 13, 2004, 10:05:56 pm
Anyways.... I've accually been doing some work.  Didn't get any done over christmas break, but MoP got a lot of work done.  I wonder if I should give you guys a look at what he's done....

Well, since I got back I've made a new alien soldier model.  And I think Im going to keep this one:  
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/soldier4-v1-WIP1.jpg)
I've rigged it and started animating as well:  <video removed>

I've also finished and rigged the 'dragoon' model.  No animating yet though.  Wheres a shot of that.... ah theres one:  <image removed>  Looks like that was taken before I fixed all the rigging, but you get the idea.


Hmmm, what else has been going on?
We all played Trem last friday and got a 9 player game going.  Despite a few minor bugs and the absence of alien models and completed maps, it was quite fun.  I think we ended up playing for 3.5 hours

Here are some screens of it:

(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/shot0029.jpg)
Jex's map 'Niveus'.  I did good that round :wink:   Btw, scores are lowered when a person dies, so thats why some of the other scores are so low.

(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/shot0032.jpg)
Our human team doing various things.  The little 'smiley' above their head means that they're in chat mode, or in a menu.  So from left to right:  Using the armory to buy upgrades/switch equipment, building a telenode (the blue glowy thing on the ground.  Objects with appear like this for sometime until they are done being made, at which time they become 'solid' and useable)  And on the very right, someone is chatting.

Oh, and there's what MoP did over the break... new human model, fully animated and working in-game with helmet and light armor upgrades.


Hm, I guess thats it, hopefully I'll be able to update you guys more soon.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Ac1 on January 14, 2004, 01:47:29 am
:o  :o ........................ :o












HOLY!
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Excalibur on January 14, 2004, 06:02:19 am
im with Ac1  :o  :o  :o
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on January 14, 2004, 12:37:55 pm
Wow this is so great, neat pics. :)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: dolby on January 15, 2004, 03:08:41 am
Excuse the size, but the detail warrants it.

(http://www.tremulousdigest.com/images/sneaks/dbs2.jpg)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Excalibur on January 15, 2004, 05:42:46 am
:o omg this game is gonna own all other games ever made  :o  




intill q3gloom comes out
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on January 15, 2004, 09:45:13 am
Even thoug I don't really like the hair and the way hes not holding the weapon, I love the skining on the weapond and the player model, and the gear looks awesome.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Godmil on January 15, 2004, 04:53:14 pm
I love that pic... I've got it printed out and stuck on the wall beside my bed :)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on January 16, 2004, 02:36:21 am
Quote from: "Crylar"
Even thoug I don't really like the hair and the way hes not holding the weapon, I love the skining on the weapond and the player model, and the gear looks awesome.


The weapon placements aren't really done, and MoP has done little more for rigging/animating than attaching a biped to the model and using id's 'visor' animations.  So, hands need to be moved around, etc...

Also, the alpha maps on the hair are a bit simplistic right now and (I really hope) will be fixed sometime before release.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Excalibur on January 16, 2004, 09:50:43 am
can someone help me my screen is verry dark and that pic of the guy with the cool looking hair is really dark half of the pic is just black for me. i cant make it brighter and save it to my desktop. i got it to a word program (wont say what one but we all know it i hope) and i got it to be brighter but i cant right click and save as desktop how can i get the brighter pic to my desktop?
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Who on January 16, 2004, 11:43:34 am
Quote from: "Excalibur"
can someone help me my screen is verry dark and that pic of the guy with the cool looking hair is really dark half of the pic is just black for me. i cant make it brighter and save it to my desktop. i got it to a word program (wont say what one but we all know it i hope) and i got it to be brighter but i cant right click and save as desktop how can i get the brighter pic to my desktop?



kill yourself
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Godmil on January 16, 2004, 12:06:41 pm
I'll adjust the gamma and send you a high res version if you want.  (I'll just post a link on here once I finish work today)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: dolby on January 16, 2004, 04:56:17 pm
i've got a gamma corrected one on tremulousdigest.com

*edit* just relinked it to the sites corrected one, i'm not saying these colors are correct, but its lighter ;p
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Godmil on January 16, 2004, 08:53:58 pm
thats probably better than what I could do cause someone has been messing with my pc, now the gamma is set to "Retina burn"  :(
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Excalibur on January 16, 2004, 09:44:27 pm
hey dolby do you mean the pic that you have on the main page of that site cause even that is dark i got mine alot brighter but i cant save it to back ground. if there is another one that i missed tell me.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Who on January 16, 2004, 09:48:33 pm
How's this excalibur?

(http://mitglied.lycos.de/whosoup/human.jpg)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: M123 on January 16, 2004, 11:57:24 pm
You need to save the file to your harddisk, then open it with a program that can change brightness in jpeg and then save it again.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Excalibur on January 17, 2004, 12:25:24 am
thats great who thnx alot buddy...NOT
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: SysRq on January 17, 2004, 06:50:03 pm
... chill out man. He took some of his free time to try and help you out, yet you act like an ass in reponse. Nice.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on January 17, 2004, 10:45:55 pm
Quote from: "SysRq"
... chill out man. He took some of his free time to try and help you out, yet you act like an ass in reponse. Nice.


Your new here... so you might not know Who.

Though you might know hem from some other Forum... but then you wouln't take his side.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Who on January 17, 2004, 11:09:35 pm
You should stop being so bitter, Crylar. I've noticed that your latest posts have been very biased, and it would be in all of our best interested if you were to act in a more humane fashion.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Ac1 on January 18, 2004, 06:42:51 am
Your Beautiful One-liners who...  :wink:
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on January 18, 2004, 10:29:40 am
Maybe, but being in a bad mood, writing stuff can make you feel better.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Who on January 18, 2004, 02:22:31 pm
Maybe you should write somewhere else if you can't keep it peaceful like the rest of us do!
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on January 18, 2004, 04:28:50 pm
I still mean what I say ya!
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on January 19, 2004, 03:09:17 am
anyways....

I rigged up the (alien) soldier, and animated it... and skinned it.  So, its in-game now, but I think someone needs to re-skin it because I suuuuuck.

Moving on, I also rigged the chimera.  Rigging is fun in that you can easily make your characters do funny things, so thats what I usually do first...
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/^_^.jpg)



click animation for more fun ^_^  (latest divx codec required)
<video removed>
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: dolby on January 19, 2004, 02:44:44 pm
You're too harsh on yourself for the soldier skin overflow, i thought it was pretty good.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on January 19, 2004, 05:23:05 pm
Thats pretty cool, I really like the pose.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Godmil on January 20, 2004, 06:22:26 pm
YAY, scary as hell :D
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on January 21, 2004, 01:57:38 am
wooooo!  I got a nice little 15" lcd monitor, so now I'm dual heading.


bwahahaha!

<image removed>
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on January 21, 2004, 11:38:12 am
You got five q3 icons on you desktop :o !
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Kinnadian on January 21, 2004, 02:42:54 pm
if that other monitor is 19 inch, I think I got the same  :o  xcept mines a piece of crap  :evil: ...at least it matches my obsolete P1 computer :-?
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: dolby on January 21, 2004, 03:24:14 pm
omg i think i see a natural selection one too!!!!@#!@#!
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on January 21, 2004, 04:40:51 pm
Don't even have half-life installed :P

Yes the other is a 19" running at 1600x1200@70Hz  \o/

yeah, five icons.  I have q3 and Trem each installed twice, as well as another icon that directly starts up a map with cheats on, etc. so I can test stuff out.  One install has all the stuff I'm working on, the other is a 'clean' install so when playing Trem on-line so I don't get troubles with the server ;)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Godmil on January 23, 2004, 11:58:30 am
Gawd, I couldn't do 2 monitors... having that much space on the desktops for me to fill up with crap would be bad  :)

(but I've only got 3 q3 icons  :cry: )
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Excalibur on January 23, 2004, 09:36:04 pm
i dont think i would want to get 2 moniters i would just buy like a 21" flatscreen one.

(i got 2 q3 icons but now that gloom is not gonna be on q3 i think i can get rid of one unless i like tremulous enough to try and make maps for that.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on January 23, 2004, 10:49:30 pm
21" = 196 in^2
15" + 19" = 260.4 in^2
(more than 1.5x physical area)

plus you probably wouldn't run the 21" above 1600x1200 = 1920000 px (edit: I have yet to see one that can go over 1600x1200)
where as I'm at 1600x1200 + 1024x768 = 2706432 px
(almost 1.5x more pixels)

cost of 21" lcd screen: at least $1200 (plus crappy responce times due to size)
cost of 19" crt + 15" lcd: $600


plus having two monitors just looks cooler... but thats just my opinion
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on January 28, 2004, 01:07:55 am
Well, I sat down and started working on the last of the alien models named the hydra for now.  I kinda added some interesting features, as well as a good helping of tris cause the others said some of my models were too low-poly.  So, here it is in DivX format:
<video removed>

796 faces
412 verts

Just sent to to MoP for rigging.. Once he's done with that, I'll animate while he skinmaps and skins \o/

um, yeah, I guess thats it
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: dolby on January 28, 2004, 05:14:32 am
faptastic dude  8)  8)  8)  8)  8)  8)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on January 28, 2004, 06:28:09 pm
The hydra looks awesome, no jaw is cool!
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Ac1 on February 02, 2004, 12:47:29 am
Must....Get....new....ART!!  :o
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on February 02, 2004, 09:28:19 am
Quote from: "Ac1"
Must....Get....new....ART!!  :o


???
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on February 15, 2004, 10:41:42 am
anyways....
 I've been busy animating aliens.  For those of you not testing, I finished up the hydra animations and they're in-game needing only a skin from MoP to be complete.

Also, I've almost animated all of the chimera today.  (I think just a death animation left)  

So the taunt animation is alwas the most fun.  So here it is... still WIP, but probaly wont change much.
<video removed>

um, I guess thats it for now... These animations take a while for me, sorry about the lack of updates :P
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Godmil on February 17, 2004, 11:09:46 pm
I love all the chimera anims... visually he has to be my fav class now :)
(behind the granger of course ;) )
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on February 17, 2004, 11:33:34 pm
my fav has to be the hydra.  But I'm probably a bit bias because the chimera has been giving me some problems :P

speaking of which... I had a little fun for a small animation challege at one of them cg forums....
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/phone-wip1.jpg)
<video removed>
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Godmil on February 19, 2004, 01:13:11 pm
I love that anim :D

wait, that the hydra? oh, I thought that was also the chimera  :(
oh I dunno, they're all my fav now :)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on February 20, 2004, 06:30:31 pm
That's really nice animated, very nice indeed.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on April 05, 2004, 03:47:58 am
Ok, so I haven't been doing much recently modelling-wise.  Pretty much all the alien models are done, but are in various stages of completion.  They all involve people other than me doing some work though, so I haven't really been doing anything.  

But I felt like helping out somehow, so I dl'd gtkradiant and had godmil and jex teach me a few things.  

http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/shot0151.jpg
http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/shot0150.jpg
http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/shot0140.jpg

Hopefully I can finish this thing sometime... Mapping takes a bit longer to do  :)


[edit]  Oh, also to save on the limited webspace we have here on sourceforge.net I deleted quite a bit of the previous content that might have been linked in this thread.  Should mainly just be videos and some large pics.  [/edit]
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on April 05, 2004, 05:16:55 pm
!!! men vafan, komma här och verka dålig på att mapa, och så visar du dom här bilderna, de är ju as balla.

( ps. the pics are awesome )

 :D  8)  :lol:
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on April 05, 2004, 06:46:49 pm
jag försökt till översätta din skrev , utom den gjorde icke verk mycket väl. Kanske folk vilja tänka jag veta Svensk.   :lol:

(ps. thx)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Supa on April 06, 2004, 01:28:25 am
Quote from: "ERR:OverFlow"
Hopefully I can finish this thing sometime... Mapping takes a bit longer to do  :)


 :o

...

That looks kickass  :D
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: John Furie Zacharias on April 10, 2004, 08:51:36 pm
Quote from: "ERR:OverFlow"

http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/shot0151.jpg
http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/shot0150.jpg
http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/shot0140.jpg


Very cool pipe details and red back/under lighting.  Those are things I thought made Jex's Eulogy (http://www.planetquake.com/lvl/comments.asp?id=1685) look great. (plus the fan shadow was a nice touch).
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on April 10, 2004, 10:45:20 pm
Wow that, umm... kind of swedish text was nice :D
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on April 11, 2004, 12:36:48 am
hmmm, I've been thinking I kinda want to stay away from directly copying jex' styles...  

oh well, here is a hallway section I'm working on:

http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/shot0171.jpg
http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/shot0168.jpg
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: John Furie Zacharias on April 11, 2004, 07:35:07 am
Quote from: "ERR:OverFlow"
hmmm, I've been thinking I kinda want to stay away from directly copying jex' styles...


I really like those supports and pipe hangers.  And the asymmetric style of the hallway.

My photoshop is stranded on my 98box with a flaky C: drive right now, so I don't have the tools to really work well with textures, but if you can do something with these, go for it:

http://morphinedreams.deviantart.com/gallery/digitalart/photomanip/misc/

I just was fiddling with them today.  The meter and the gage might be useful, though.  I dunno.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on May 02, 2004, 12:09:28 pm
oh noes! my beautiful thread is beginning to fall behind!
More updates on the map, I think I'm about half done, But some of the first sections I did are looking a bit crap, so I 'll most likely re-make them.

http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/shot0214.jpg
http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/shot0211.jpg
http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/shot0208.jpg
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: DCB:ETOX on May 24, 2004, 03:15:00 am
awesome mapping, i like what i see
only thing i didnt like was the red lighting in on of the shots, for some reason red was always unappealing to me for lighting. i use soft blues whites and yellows, occasionaly a green or orange.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on May 24, 2004, 08:49:28 pm
Quote from: "DCB:ETOX"
i use soft blues whites and yellows, occasionaly a green or orange.


Does not sound very original to me... Although, usually these look very nice.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Stannum on May 29, 2004, 03:31:09 am
http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/shot0249.jpg
http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/shot0250.jpg
http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/shot0246.jpg

Some hydra shots.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on May 31, 2004, 03:29:00 am
Timbo has been violently poking to get the dragoon done so i finally gave in.  Having some problems thinking about how the body should work... but I got the head done :P

(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/dragoon-WIP1.jpg)

Its got a very high tri count, but I haven't optimized anything yet... will finish sometime this week hopefully.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Supa on May 31, 2004, 08:23:03 am
OverFlow: I like the eyes, do you have a concept sketch for this seksi beast?  :D
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on May 31, 2004, 09:15:07 am
I actually do...

drawn in pink because its cool:

(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/dragoon-head2.jpg)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on May 31, 2004, 10:27:21 am
That head looks really awesome, I allso like the eyes(meny eyes are cool). and the neck and every thing says 'this is a power ful creature'.
Very nice sketch to.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Godmil on May 31, 2004, 02:36:40 pm
Fret not everyone, I've got the new dragoon design sorted :D

Dragoon (http://195.137.39.51/godmil/newdragoon2.jpg)

...and if you're having trouble visualising it ingame:

Dragoon Rush!!! (http://195.137.39.51/godmil/dragoonrush.jpg)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on May 31, 2004, 03:16:04 pm
Quote from: "Godmil"
Fret not everyone, I've got the new dragoon design sorted :D


Umm... yeah very nice.

I think the old body and the new head would look very nice togeather, maybe add a long tail or something.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on May 31, 2004, 10:57:20 pm
yeah, I was sitting around for a couple hours drawing different bodies when I decided that the original body would probably work pretty good... only problem is that it only has 4 legs.  It may or may not look very good to add another pair, but it was 6am, so I decided to go to sleep.  :P
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on June 05, 2004, 04:36:17 am
Had some fun this play test.  The game was pretty much over, so the two teams decided to call a truce... then weird things started to happen.  Stannum put together some shots of the anomaly...
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/shot0044.jpg)

here are the rest if you're interested:
<removed, cause I take up too much webspace -.- >
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Stannum on June 05, 2004, 04:48:45 am
Be sure to check them all out! There are some nice screens in there. Especially 89 and the ass-shot shots. (Mofo has a nice ass!)

The tower started in the center. I took some screens. Then we slowly moved to the crate/armoury. In the end the humans blew up the reactor and plummeted down! The mofos then mauled the remaining hummies.

However, Mr_whack had secretly rebuilt the base while I was taking screens. He was generally being a prick so we vote kicked him.

Congratualtions Mr_Whack for being to first person to be vote kicked from a tremulous game!

NOW LETS PARTAY!
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Cybernetsam on June 05, 2004, 06:07:20 am
That zip doesn't work for me, I get corruption errors.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on June 05, 2004, 07:34:16 am
ah, you're right.  Something weird happened when I was uploading...

Should work fine now.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Whack on June 06, 2004, 09:43:56 pm
Fraid im not the first, that would be Sgt.Pain......




Sukit \/
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Godmil on June 07, 2004, 11:31:23 pm
that screen is interesting...  eh, particularly when the top mofo is above the clipped edge of the map  :-?

I've very curious to see how that happened.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on June 08, 2004, 12:03:49 am
pretty sure its just the angle that makes it look like its up above the clip brush.  We definitely would have gone higher if it wasnt for that ;)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Norfenstein on June 08, 2004, 05:58:12 am
I was the top mofo and was as high as the map would allow. The two of us climbed to the high ledge as soldiers then evolved up there before jumping down onto the chimera. All of us then jumped over and over until I reached the ceiling and couldn't jump anymore. Then we very carefully moved the stack over to the other corner.

Meanwhile Whack had returned under a different name (fooling no one) and built a base in the elevator room. After most people had left I and one other person attacked his base. He was still being a prick so we vote kicked him again and wiped out his stuff. First person to get kicked twice in one game of Tremulous!
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Whack on June 08, 2004, 02:00:20 pm
Wow, I guess that you are all pricks, being that anyone who actually tries to play the game is a prick....

Norf kicked me because his dragoon couldn't kill my base as long as I maintained it, now THATS being a prick, sore loser....
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Excalibur on June 09, 2004, 04:22:37 am
i got to agree with whack the game is ment to be played the way he was playing it not dragoon stacking. if you guys want to do that thats fine but dont kick the guy that wants to play the game they way he wants to play the game. he did not kick you for dragoon stacking.
but on another note none of this has to do with overflows great work.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Stannum on June 10, 2004, 05:15:28 pm
We were going to stop playing. We just decided that we would make a tower before leaving.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Excalibur on June 10, 2004, 10:59:17 pm
then it really did not matter if he made another base cause you all where leaving anyways.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on June 10, 2004, 11:41:17 pm
personally, I was fine with him going off making his own base until he started shooting at the aliens in the stack, thats when the kick vote started.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Excalibur on June 11, 2004, 09:35:57 pm
ok well that part was left out if he was shooting you guys trying to kill you then yea vote boot him. but if he was just going making a base i dont see a prob with that cause he might of just been learning how to make a better mouse trap (human base) and by booting him you just stoped him from learning. man i really need to play this game but every friday im busy.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on June 21, 2004, 12:07:33 pm
Back to the topic...

finished up the dragoon model and rig, so now Im animating.  Here's a shot of it in some odd pose....

(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/dragoon-WIP4.jpg)

and heres a shot of it running... kinda.... might need a little more work.
http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/dragoon-runanim2.avi
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Supa on June 21, 2004, 12:33:58 pm
Excellent work as usual 'Flow. I'm a bit curious, could you make a render of the Dragoon side-by-side with the Mofo? I'd like to see how they compare size wise.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on June 21, 2004, 12:53:43 pm
tbh, I haven't really scaled it at all so I dont know.  But, Im thinking it'll be about the same length and width, and about half the height... will discuss with the others though ;)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Stannum on June 22, 2004, 05:28:23 pm
You've got some concave hulls on the upper leg parts. You dhould flip the edges.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on June 23, 2004, 12:55:58 am
those were actually somewaht intentional :P  perhaps you're right... I also see another place where some flipping should be done...
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Stannum on June 24, 2004, 12:18:59 am
The eye detail can be done with the skin, might want to cut the eyes out.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on June 26, 2004, 12:38:58 am
Totaly awesome, you can really see its related to the big mofo. And he do looks really rather powerfull.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Ac1 on June 28, 2004, 04:11:23 pm
Shake that tail! :P
Nice man.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on July 02, 2004, 07:01:34 am
<_<


>_>



(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/dragoon-ingame1.jpg)


Should be in friday's playtest...
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Jex on July 02, 2004, 03:14:24 pm
\m/
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Stannum on July 02, 2004, 06:08:23 pm
>_>

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.o/

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/o/

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Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on August 14, 2004, 01:11:25 am
hm, over a month without an update?  Its been slow for a while...  but I think I'm starting to work a bit more.  The current flame thrower doesn't work very well with the hud setup and doesnt really look that great anyways.  So I made a new one for jex to have fun with.

(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/flamer3-WIP1.jpg)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: DCB:ETOX on August 14, 2004, 03:44:41 am
interesting..
i think it could work, though id want to see it skinned..
though it does look a little block-like, not sure that im liking it (yet)
ill post again when i have more time, ive got a few possible ideas for it
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Supa on August 15, 2004, 03:31:43 am
OverFlow; That looks sweet. Keep us posted on it.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: -Saig- on September 17, 2004, 10:38:10 am
Wheee!

All I gotta say.

BTW hi
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Stannum on September 17, 2004, 05:23:43 pm
Hi Saig.

!!!!!1!!!!!!!11!!!!111!!!!2!!!!!11!
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: -Saig- on September 18, 2004, 04:31:54 am
heyo!

actually have Q3 now, so i may be joining the tremulous scene whenever the public beta comes around.

plus i already grabbed gtkradiant and am attempting to figure out the interface. so far...not so good lol. havent had to learn a new editor since WC oh so long ago.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: DCB:ETOX on September 18, 2004, 05:15:52 pm
hey saig

gtk has an interface alot like qe radiant (click and drag). shouldnt take you to long, and hope to see some new maps.

um, if you want to get a jump on the public release you can goto

http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~tma/tremulous-beta/

theres a large weakly build there (in the paragraph) that should help you, then you can connect to the server (acheron.r1gameservers.com:27960) and get the rest of the files.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: -Saig- on September 18, 2004, 05:40:07 pm
aye thanks for the link. ill get started on downloading soon.

but about the radiant thing, i never used qeradiant so its an entirely new interface to me. im just learning the camera and keyboard shortcuts so far. im not really fond of the switching between xyz thing, since ive been used to having 3 seperate grids with each axis in the past. just have to get acclimated to it i suppose.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: DCB:ETOX on September 18, 2004, 05:50:24 pm
i believe there is a way to change the lay out so you can have three windows.. *checks*

press p for preferences, goto layout (under interfeace) then click on the interface you want... i havnt tried any of them so i dont know what will work best for you.

anyway, best of luck
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: -Saig- on September 18, 2004, 10:25:44 pm
yep, got it configured to 3 window now. thank you! soooo much better, can actually tell wtf im doing now.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Godmil on September 21, 2004, 02:05:57 pm
Oh Saig... what version do you have?
if you're mapping for Q3, can I heartedly recommend 1.2.13 (http://www.qeradiant.com/?data=files&files_dir=5).  its considerably more painless than any of the later releases (particularly 1.5).
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: -Saig- on September 22, 2004, 02:13:55 am
i picked up 1.4 since it was listed as the last complete stable (read: not beta) build they released. im so far pretty situated with how everything works so far, but i do like the sound of less painless lol  :)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Godmil on September 24, 2004, 07:34:07 pm
ok well if you've got into 1.4 then thats ok...
I was just worried you would have picked up 1.5 which is a totally different experience all together.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on September 28, 2004, 07:07:50 am
its the hive :o

(http://tremulous.net/users/jex/shot0344.jpg)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on September 30, 2004, 10:43:35 am
Are those the eggs?? Much better then the old ones!
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on September 30, 2004, 06:08:59 pm
Quote from: "Crylar"
Are those the eggs?? Much better then the old ones!


its the hive actually...  :-?
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on September 30, 2004, 06:54:34 pm
oops, now I saw the egg in the celing
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on October 13, 2004, 08:04:19 am
MoP has stated that he is now much too busy with other projects and school to work on tremulous.  So one again, I kinda take over another's modeling duties.  However, its only really the battle suit I have to make.  Luckily with the human characters, its very easy to animate because id released all the player animations for the q3 players.  

For some reason I decided to remake the base trooper model though.  I never really liked it to begin with, not because of the artisic value, which is quite higher than my own, but because I feel it doesnt really fit the 'theme' I've created with the aliens, weapons, and other random accessories.  So whether or not this will be in the initial release, here are some previews of the human trooper model I made last week, as well as a rigging test animation.  It may look famililar because I based it very much on the previous human model shown somewhere in this thread...

(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/hsoldier-show1.jpg)
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/hsoldier-show2.jpg)

DivX Video -
http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/hsoldier-WIP3.avi

Turns out rigging the shoulders really sucks... but I think I have it in an acceptable state right now.  Also, here's a pic that shows a little more detail on the hemlet since its a little hard to see whats going on right now.

(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/hsoldier-WIP6.jpg)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on October 13, 2004, 06:07:19 pm
Is the right one the "battle suit"??
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on October 13, 2004, 06:29:54 pm
Quote from: "Crylar"
Is the right one the "battle suit"??


That would be the light armor and helmet upgrades.  I'm going to be making a seperate battle suit model  :)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on October 14, 2004, 12:02:18 am
make it BIG!! :P
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Stannum on October 15, 2004, 05:54:58 pm
Just a heads up, dragoon skin is pretty much done. Just needs some minor brightness tweaking.

/o/

\o\
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Tyler on October 18, 2004, 04:34:29 am
if it's not to much trouble, could you make the avi a mov file? thank you.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on October 20, 2004, 09:14:49 am
Quote from: "Tyler"
if it's not to much trouble, could you make the avi a mov file? thank you.


I tried making it a .mov, but it ended up having lots of weird artifacts and stuff in it, the file was also almost 3mb :(

However, I have finally done something I think is somewhat worthy skinning-wise... I watched a tutorial and painted a skin for the head of the human model :D

(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/hsoldier-head-WIP3.jpg)(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/hsoldier-head-WIP4.jpg)

Its a bit streched, but you get the idea....  It took maybe 4-5 hours, but its my first face ;)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: John Furie Zacharias on October 20, 2004, 03:09:33 pm
Quote from: "ERR:OverFlow"


Its a bit streched, but you get the idea....  It took maybe 4-5 hours, but its my first face ;)


Wow. The stretched left image looks like that guy's face from the movie "altered states" when he drinks too much south american hallucinogen and spends too much time in the isolation tank. It works though, and that's what matters.  And it looks good.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on November 17, 2004, 09:21:16 pm
oh my, haven't updated in some time...
(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/bsuit-WIP6.jpg)
yay, bsuit is made, rigged, animated, uvw mapped, and jex has already started a kickass skin.

(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/mopTrooper-blaster-1.jpg)
MoP gave me the files for the trooper model, and I added a couple of animations so that it would correctly hold the blaster.... yay.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: DCB:ETOX on November 17, 2004, 09:31:04 pm
keep up the good work

i like it all, cept maybe on the unsuited human, the helmet wraps around to the back (no issue here) and then theres that little part that goes up in the back, shielding the back of his head.. it seams a bit out of place when you see the front-upper part being open (or more open).

still i like..
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on November 18, 2004, 07:58:34 pm
(Jej, finaly I could log in, Thanks Timbo)

I don't know if I like the shape of the new human head, could you post in in wireframe,

YAY for BattleSuit, and YAY for blaster pose, I like there poses.
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: OverFlow on January 31, 2005, 02:44:24 am
Hrm, haven't updated in a while :(  Imagine I used to be upset if I didn't get anything done over a few days...  Well, that was during the summer, now days I'm a bit busy.  Anyways, Jex finished up the battle suit skin and I paked it up for immediate use ;)  should be up in the betas section in a day or two.  

(http://tremulous.net/users/OverFlow/shot0483sm.jpg)
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Crylar on January 31, 2005, 12:53:56 pm
Looking good!
Title: OverFlow's Update pics Thread (modems beware)
Post by: Tyler on February 03, 2005, 03:50:29 am
yes indeed, looks good  :)