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General => Troubleshooting => Topic started by: 1337 1 on November 15, 2006, 10:16:27 am

Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: 1337 1 on November 15, 2006, 10:16:27 am
When I first got my new broadband connection (god bless broadband: its the only true internet), I was able to access the Gamearena Servers and the GU (gaming underground) server with almost no lag.  FPS was averaging about 70-90.  However, GU has now disappeared from my list (I had it in my favourites, now it is displayed as a ping address), and I am constantly recieving rediculously high amounts of ping on my computer, to the point where I am killed by people who I can't even see.  SPAWNING is lagged.  Same for spectating.

I have unlimited, so it shouldn't have anything to do with my download limits or anything.

Does anyone, ANYONE have the slightest idea what's going on?  Its been an ongoing problem, and its just getting worse and worse.  Please help.
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: rasz_pl on November 15, 2006, 10:37:00 am
yes I do, you are running windows
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: 1337 1 on November 16, 2006, 05:09:40 am
Quote from: "rasz_pl"
yes I do, you are running windows

Its going slower than windows normally does.
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: David on November 16, 2006, 08:58:24 am
Get spy-ware, ad-ware, and virus checkers. Then use them.
Also make sure the video drivers are up to date.

Also, tell other people who share your connection to stop using bit torrent.
If they wont, get a better router and set up some QoS.
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: rasz_pl on November 16, 2006, 01:36:53 pm
Quote from: "1337 1"
Quote from: "rasz_pl"
yes I do, you are running windows

Its going slower than windows normally does.


yes, windows does that, it gets slower over time as more and more spyware infects your computer
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: 1337 1 on November 16, 2006, 10:21:07 pm
Quote from: "David"
Get spy-ware, ad-ware, and virus checkers. Then use them.
Also make sure the video drivers are up to date.

Also, tell other people who share your connection to stop using bit torrent.
If they wont, get a better router and set up some QoS.


I've checked my computer for every variant of virus 100,000 times, no problem there.  I suspect the router itself is the actual problem, owing to the fact that it often refuses to connect to the internet, but this gets solved by turning the router off and then on again.  However, this is only a temporary fix for the problem.  And, as previously mentioned, the problem is getting steadily worse.

And what's a QoS?  Never heard that term before (well, I probably have, just not abbreviated like that)  :P
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: David on November 17, 2006, 07:55:59 am
Quality of Service.
So some packets get priority, and others don't.
What router do you have?
Get the latest firmware.
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: 1337 1 on November 18, 2006, 05:52:51 am
Quote from: "David"

Get the latest firmware.


What will this do?
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: David on November 18, 2006, 11:46:59 am
Fix bugs and such.
Are you on wireless?
If so change the channel, see if you get a better signal.
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: gcb on November 27, 2006, 02:25:48 am
i can't sort by ping time. the result is just nonsense.
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: kevlarman on November 27, 2006, 02:30:29 am
Quote from: "gcb"
i can't sort by ping time. the result is just nonsense.
fixed in svn.
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: rasz_pl on November 27, 2006, 12:09:33 pm
fix : http://tremulous.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=33956
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: Predator on November 27, 2006, 06:16:02 pm
I cannot find all the servers in my list... I am getting onfo for 100 servers but I can see only 1 or 2... what is the problem?
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: rasz_pl on November 27, 2006, 07:34:03 pm
open console, does it say "96 filtered for ping" or something like that? also try to flip "show empty" and "show full"
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: Diggs on November 27, 2006, 07:47:28 pm
Post your tracert.  Someone along the way has a bad router.

Diggs
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: Predator on November 29, 2006, 01:41:01 pm
Quote from: "rasz_pl"
open console, does it say "96 filtered for ping" or something like that? also try to flip "show empty" and "show full"


It says: 98 servers not listed due to packet loss or ip higher than 800.
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: rasz_pl on November 29, 2006, 03:26:17 pm
Quote from: "Predator"
Quote from: "rasz_pl"
open console, does it say "96 filtered for ping" or something like that? also try to flip "show empty" and "show full"


It says: 98 servers not listed due to packet loss or ip higher than 800.


you are on wireless?
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: Predator on November 29, 2006, 03:49:28 pm
Quote from: "rasz_pl"
Quote from: "Predator"
Quote from: "rasz_pl"
open console, does it say "96 filtered for ping" or something like that? also try to flip "show empty" and "show full"


It says: 98 servers not listed due to packet loss or ip higher than 800.


you are on wireless?


Yes
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: rasz_pl on November 29, 2006, 04:29:45 pm
Quote from: "Predator"
Quote from: "rasz_pl"
Quote from: "Predator"
Quote from: "rasz_pl"
open console, does it say "96 filtered for ping" or something like that? also try to flip "show empty" and "show full"


It says: 98 servers not listed due to packet loss or ip higher than 800.


you are on wireless?


Yes


change provider :)
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: Predator on November 29, 2006, 05:05:03 pm
You think it is an internet connection mistake? There must be anything how to repair it? heeeeelp :(
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: rasz_pl on November 29, 2006, 06:47:34 pm
Quote from: "Predator"
You think it is an internet connection mistake? There must be anything how to repair it? heeeeelp :(


yes, your wireless link is CRAP and is losing packets
you can try bigger antenna/better wireless card/repeater, but the simplest solution is to change providers
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: Diggs on November 29, 2006, 08:04:33 pm
You have a wireless provider, or you have a wireless router?  If you have a wireless router and it is bad, changing ISPs will not fix anything.

You ask what can be done, but without a tracert, we can't see where the problem is.

Rasz - How can you tell it is his wireless link and not a bad router upstream somewhere?
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: rasz_pl on November 29, 2006, 08:32:44 pm
Quote from: "Diggs"
Rasz - How can you tell it is his wireless link and not a bad router upstream somewhere?


I have worked with WISPs for few years. Its extremly rare (at least in Europe) for an ISP to lose packets like that, its quite normal for wireless links. Ppl dont even notice it until they want to run something over UDP.
But yes, he might have a normal ISP, wifi router and a computer connected over wifi to that router.
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: PWN-Quake on December 02, 2006, 04:42:33 am
if ure on wirless then maby spend some $ and get a stronger base station, or directly connect the internet to your comp

try that
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: Predator on December 02, 2006, 08:36:29 am
Tracert??? Whats that?
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: rasz_pl on December 02, 2006, 12:08:59 pm
Quote from: "PWN-Quake"
if ure on wirless then maby spend some $ and get a stronger base station


there is no such animal, almost every single AP has a MAX allowed power output (FCC / CE wise).
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: kevlarman on December 02, 2006, 07:03:36 pm
Quote from: "rasz_pl"
Quote from: "PWN-Quake"
if ure on wirless then maby spend some $ and get a stronger base station


there is no such animal, almost every single AP has a MAX allowed power output (FCC / CE wise).
how about a wrt54g <insert>?
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: rasz_pl on December 02, 2006, 07:52:12 pm
Quote from: "kevlarman"
Quote from: "rasz_pl"
Quote from: "PWN-Quake"
if ure on wirless then maby spend some $ and get a stronger base station


there is no such animal, almost every single AP has a MAX allowed power output (FCC / CE wise).
how about a wrt54g <insert>?


so what about it? it outputs MAX alowed in a region it is sold (radio out + antenna gain). Overdriving it is a bad idea because you add more amplifier noise than actual signal. If you really must extend the range buy/make a proper antenna.
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: Predator on December 03, 2006, 10:40:54 am
Sorry, but what is tracert???
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: rasz_pl on December 03, 2006, 05:30:56 pm
Quote from: "Predator"
Sorry, but what is tracert???


to hard to just TYPE IT in the command line?
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: Diggs on December 03, 2006, 10:35:45 pm
Quote from: "Predator"
Sorry, but what is tracert???


Type tracert into your Windows help index for a detailed explanation.  Tracert is included in all Windows versions.  (I can't  remember the Linux equivalent.)

From a command prompt (DOS box) type the tracert command and a destination that can be pinged.  It would look like this-

tracert google.com

The output of that command will list every router between you and the nearest Google server and the time it took the request to be returned from each of those routers including your own.  Allot of sites don't return pings anymore so be sure you ping the site before your tracert to it.  (You do know the Ping command correct?)

Diggs
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: Undeference on December 04, 2006, 05:43:00 am
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(I can't remember the Linux equivalent.)

Hmm...
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$ ls -n /bin/tracert
lrwxrwxrwx 1 0 0 10 Nov 28 13:49 /bin/tracert -> traceroute
(the question is why RH didn't just 'alias' it)
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: next_ghost on December 04, 2006, 01:20:56 pm
My Gentoo Linux has tracepath program which belongs to net-misc/iputils package.
Title: Ping and Server List problems
Post by: Predator on December 06, 2006, 03:18:42 pm
What about client version? Can it be because of that?