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Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: techhead on December 04, 2006, 02:56:43 am
Does Tremulous need new stuff added?
Including, but not limited to:
1. New Human Weapons
2. New Human Equiptment
3. New Alien Classes
4. New Human Structures
5. New Alien Structures
6. New Teams

I hope to put a slowdown on the many suggestion threads for adding new stuff. Some are good ideas, some are decent ideas, and some are just bad ideas.
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: poto killer on December 04, 2006, 04:27:30 am
there should be dretch packs and spectator should be a team.
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: |Nex|TrEmMa on December 04, 2006, 04:29:09 am
I'm glad we don't need new maps.
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: temple on December 04, 2006, 04:47:56 am
Luci-sabers
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: Undeference on December 04, 2006, 05:36:50 am
!lock s  :P
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: Basilisco on December 04, 2006, 08:43:57 am
Integrated bittorrent client, that's a must.
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: Kaleo on December 04, 2006, 08:45:06 am
I know it's possible. They pulled it off in JK II.

Vehicles!






And mabey somthing for the aliens...
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: rasz_pl on December 04, 2006, 09:01:57 am
Quote from: "MC Artman"
I know it's possible. They pulled it off in JK II.

Vehicles!


did they? im pretty sure i ended this game and dont remember vehicles
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: Kaleo on December 04, 2006, 09:03:28 am
Quote from: "rasz_pl"
Quote from: "MC Artman"
I know it's possible. They pulled it off in JK II.

Vehicles!


did they? im pretty sure i ended this game and dont remember vehicles


Yavin canyon. There are two ATST's that you can drive.
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: rasz_pl on December 04, 2006, 02:31:39 pm
those big slow things? maybe, i played *something* troppers in the mean times and things got messed up in my memmory
Vehicles can be done, just glue player positions to the common point (like you glue spectators to other players position) and it should be ok, but trem is to small for them
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: jal on December 04, 2006, 07:03:56 pm
Trem has vehicles already! Hint: they fly.
More seriously. I don't see the point given the maps are mid-to-small sized, and can't be bigger given some gameplay limitations.
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: |Nex|TrEmMa on December 04, 2006, 08:04:52 pm
Yes I want to drive my vehicle into the alien base, past all the defenses, and unload 5 painsawers who then proceed to win every game while all aliens can do is sit there spamming a join humans bind hoping for once to get on the winning side.
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: PIE on December 04, 2006, 08:42:20 pm
Quote from: "|Nex|TrEmMa"
Yes I want to drive my vehicle into the alien base, past all the defenses, and unload 5 painsawers who then proceed to win every game while all aliens can do is sit there spamming a join humans bind hoping for once to get on the winning side.

That is mighty selfish of you tremma.
... why would you want to ruin the game like that for everyone :(


I think the aliens need battlesuits however...and laser vision.
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: AKAnotu on December 06, 2006, 03:10:18 am
alien vehicles
two words: tyrant chopper
the tyrant gets a helicopter blade attachment so it can fly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"STFU HACKING JETTARDS!!!!!!!!!!"
"UR JUST A STUPID TYRANT!!!!!1 WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT!!!!"
"Chopper Mode engaged"
"God mode engaged"
"No clip mode engaged"
"OMGONOZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1"
everystupidfrigginjettard was mauled by AKAnotu's tyrant

lolz
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: techhead on December 06, 2006, 05:13:27 pm
A flying tyrant, no.
A different flying alien, quite possibly.

On a side note, I am pleased at the support for new stuff!
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: PIE on December 06, 2006, 06:13:08 pm
Well.. lets get this thread back into reality and the realm of usefulness, and go ahead and state in big bold letters:
NO FLYING ALIENS

Unless that is you go in and make a mod yourself.
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: Undeference on December 06, 2006, 06:26:13 pm
There are already flying aliens. It's called dretch punt.
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: pyrax on December 07, 2006, 12:00:00 am
Quote from: "Undeference"
There are already flying aliens. It's called dretch punt.
Yeah, but those only fly in the way the original Superman flies.
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: dude11235 on December 07, 2006, 12:50:59 am
I think that flying aliens (if there is any) should have a stamina meter for how long they can fly.

Another alternative is to have an advanced dretch (hear me out) and clicking would engage a grapple that does no damage but hooks on to, humans and structures alike, and it allows the adv dretch to go up on to jetters and take them down. To even things out maybe the grapple travels slowly, and/or goes in an arc.

But seriously Iv'e gotten a jet pack on atcs and it took five adv goons to take me out, if there was a alien grapple or a short range flying alien it would even things out a bit.

Just my two cents.
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: Caveman on December 07, 2006, 05:44:16 am
I am missing the interface to my coffee-maker.
That should take priority over any other enhancements. RIGHT NOW!
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: techhead on December 07, 2006, 10:07:52 pm
Here is an idea for a flying alien.
All values can be changed for balance.

Sprint key turns flying off, you can walk around, quiet and stealthy.
Sprint key turns it back on, and you fly and emit a loud buzzing noise.
Can slash people, advanced can grab people and move them around.
Battle-suits are immune to grab, and grabbed people can still turn.
However, this will allow you to drop people from heights or into deathtraps, or move them near your base or friends.
Take too long with it and he'll just shoot you down.

Speed yet to be determined, HP and damage yet to be determined.
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: doomagent13 on December 07, 2006, 10:34:36 pm
Quote from: "techhead"
Here is an idea for a flying alien.
All values can be changed for balance.

Sprint key turns flying off, you can walk around, quiet and stealthy.
Sprint key turns it back on, and you fly and emit a loud buzzing noise.
Can slash people, advanced can grab people and move them around.
Battle-suits are immune to grab, and grabbed people can still turn.
However, this will allow you to drop people from heights or into deathtraps, or move them near your base or friends.
Take too long with it and he'll just shoot you down.

Speed yet to be determined, HP and damage yet to be determined.


I like this idea.

As for changes to humans:
1.    short range med in a backpack like batpack--no bsuits
2.    short range arm in a backpack like batpack--no bsuits, only allows reload, no weapon or armor buying
3.    Replace the luci with grenade launcher/rpg/rocket launcher/bazooka--it would be extremely powerful, but not a base defense weapon, super long reload time, possibly no bsuit or no jetpack or both

The arm and med backpacks would help get the humans out of base, as they wouldnt have to return for health or ammo, but they would require groups to really be effective.
Replacing the luci would get rid of lucispam--no secondary fire(except possibly for grenade launcher for different fuses).  Even more so than with the luci, someone with one of those would need to get out of base.
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: kozak6 on December 08, 2006, 03:09:40 am
Quote from: "Jex"
We are not in favour of a flying alien.

Quote from: "Jex"
We are not in favour of a flying alien.

Quote from: "Jex"
We are not in favour of a flying alien.

Quote from: "Jex"
--> We are not in favour of a flying alien. <--[/color]
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: techhead on December 08, 2006, 09:15:24 pm
Make it wimpy and only strong enough to knock jettards down.
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: PIE on December 08, 2006, 10:14:11 pm
Quote from: "techhead"
Make it wimpy and only strong enough to knock jettards down.

Quote from: "kozak6"
Quote from: "Jex"
We are not in favour of a flying alien.

Quote from: "Jex"
We are not in favour of a flying alien.

Quote from: "Jex"
We are not in favour of a flying alien.

Quote from: "Jex"
--> We are not in favour of a flying alien. <--[/color]
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: techhead on December 08, 2006, 10:48:18 pm
Give it 25 hp, with granger spit.
Useless, except against jettards.
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: temple on December 08, 2006, 11:48:08 pm
Tyrant chopper is the only idea I will seriously consider.
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: PIE on December 09, 2006, 03:25:59 am
No flying aliens.. only flying humons!!
(http://jecca.net/misc/img/misc/helicopterhair.jpg)
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: n00b pl0x on December 09, 2006, 03:35:18 am
LOL
Title: Re: New stuff or not?
Post by: M&m&M on January 26, 2007, 02:38:05 am
A rifle upgrade that felt more like an assault rifle than autopistol would be cool.

extending the tech levels to S4 to stretch out the benefits of the Luci-cannon would be nice.

new tricks for the Humans would always be fun--spring traps or patrol bots.

flying aliens!

Overall I think the game needs more maps with different attitudes, than more stuff that might unbalance the game. Stretching some things out to S4 to allow more steps in between might make the game even better.

Quote from: "techhead"
Does Tremulous need new stuff added?
Including, but not limited to:
1. New Human Weapons
2. New Human Equiptment
3. New Alien Classes
4. New Human Structures
5. New Alien Structures
6. New Teams

I hope to put a slowdown on the many suggestion threads for adding new stuff. Some are good ideas, some are decent ideas, and some are just bad ideas.
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: n00b pl0x on January 26, 2007, 03:46:56 am
trem needs more ns and cowbell
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: kozak6 on January 26, 2007, 05:02:27 am
I really don't see why everyone loves that skit so much.
Title: New stuff or not?
Post by: techhead on January 26, 2007, 08:16:44 pm
Glad to see you bumped my topic, and 3 out of 4 people want something new added.
We just have to decide what.