Tremulous Forum
General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ace1 on December 13, 2006, 05:28:09 pm
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SST is gone :O :O :O
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SST is gone :O :O :O
or your isp :D
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OHNOES AND ALL THE OTHER SERVERS ARE NOOB WITH 100 BP
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must be some kind of xmas present!
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WOW there IS a Santa!
How else would he know exactly what I wanted?
[/joke]
Ontopic: I'd bet that this is just a temporary downtime while they move to a new server :-?
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OHNOES AND ALL THE OTHER SERVERS ARE NOOB WITH 100 BP
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Those n00bs! I blame Pacra. It's always his techno-making ass nubing it up on all other severs but SST.
The Potato Patch:
.ask sst
Mr. PotatoBot: .ask sst. We don't come here to fight bases, we come to play each other.
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Funny, it seems that the actual HARDWARE is down, but sst is not closing, we got enough donations.
Now, please desist flaming SST, we dont have any posts on any of our forums saying the potato patch sucks or something similar.
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Now, please desist flaming SST, we dont have any posts on any of our forums saying the potato patch sucks or something similar.
Eh, it's more fun to flame the noobs from the server than the server itself.
You're not the one that gets to hear "DIS SERVER NEED MOR BULDPONT" everytime SST is down and then get kickvotes called by noobs who think SST Luci spam rules apply everywhere as people spam "Qoot Qoot" while managing to single-handedly feed the other team s3 at the same time you are trying to argue with the 2 other grangers who want to move to the window room because "UR NOOB."
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Eh, it's more fun to flame the noobs from the server than the server itself.
You're not the one that gets to hear "DIS SERVER NEED MOR BULDPONT" everytime SST is down and then get kickvotes called by noobs who think SST Luci spam rules apply everywhere as people spam "Qoot Qoot" while managing to single-handedly feed the other team s3 at the same time you are trying to argue with the 2 other grangers who want to move to the window room because "UR NOOB."
Methinks you play with Yahoo too much :wink:
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no i am not saying anyhting bat bout sst i just wondered were it went to when i went to join the game there was no sst on the list so as long as i no it is not closing i will be very happy. :) :) :) :D :D :D
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I think that 260 BP is way too much...
Then again, 100 BP might be a little too stringent for casual players.
150 BP sounds like a relaxed game to you?
And if you do decide you want to fight bases, there are always those silly unlimited BP servers.
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If you like 150 or so bps, play on tjw's server, he has about 175, last time i checked.
As for sst, we are back up, it was a hardware crash.
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After playing on SST, 100 BP is a joke. And people call SST the noob server?
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For the massive Tyrant rushes that can occur on SST, I don't believe 260 is too much. SST has always been about trying different things it seems and the high BP count goes along with the high player count. What good would 100 BP do on a 10 Tyrant rush?
Hopefully, everyone finds a server that suits their tastes and style of play and patronizes it. If it was one server configuration fits all, Tremulous wouldn't be half the game that it is.
Diggs
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I honestly hope it is only a temoral down.
I hate to see a server vanish that draws loads of people to tremulous.
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Yeah, it is the server that has the lowest ping for me.
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It is back up.
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OHNOES AND ALL THE OTHER SERVERS ARE NOOB WITH 100 BP
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Those n00bs! I blame Pacra. It's always his techno-making ass nubing it up on all other severs but SST.
The Potato Patch:
.ask sst
Mr. PotatoBot: .ask sst. We don't come here to fight bases, we come to play each other.
no no no don't blame pacra. blame.....errr...
TIMBO
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After playing on SST, 100 BP is a joke. And people call SST the noob server?
Lol, at least our reasoning has validity. You need extra BP to compensate for one of two things, inability to defend or inability to build, both of which are examples of noobishness. Therefore, a logical tie between more BP and noobishness. "100 BP is a joke" sounds like something someone who sucks on 100 BP servers would say.
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After playing on SST, 100 BP is a joke. And people call SST the noob server?
Lol, at least our reasoning has validity. You need extra BP to compensate for one of two things, inability to defend or inability to build, both of which are examples of noobishness. Therefore, a logical tie between more BP and noobishness. "100 BP is a joke" sounds like something someone who sucks on 100 BP servers would say.
100 BP is joke for someone that can break through 260 BP worth of crap consistently.
It logical that if you have more players, you need to scale defense. More BP = more time, nothing more or less.
Suck on a 100 BP server? What's the difference?
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the difference is that, ironically, the more build points there are, the less likely it is that the important parts of a base will be properly protected
this problem is not actually unique to high bp servers, it's just more apparent. people tend to spend their build points really poorly, but on high bp servers, they spread the base way out. the result is that the "base" defenses are farther away from what actually matters than in lower build point servers -- what people don't realize is that it doesn't matter how many turrets you have when they are all too far away or too cluttered to hit anything
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Now, please desist flaming SST, we dont have any posts on any of our forums saying the potato patch sucks or something similar.
Eh, it's more fun to flame the noobs from the server than the server itself.
You're not the one that gets to hear "DIS SERVER NEED MOR BULDPONT" everytime SST is down and then get kickvotes called by noobs who think SST Luci spam rules apply everywhere as people spam "Qoot Qoot" while managing to single-handedly feed the other team s3 at the same time you are trying to argue with the 2 other grangers who want to move to the window room because "UR NOOB."
lmfao its so true :(
if anyone sees someone say "Qoot Qoot", shoot to kill. :wink:
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the difference is that, ironically, the more build points there are, the less likely it is that the important parts of a base will be properly protected
this problem is not actually unique to high bp servers, it's just more apparent. people tend to spend their build points really poorly, but on high bp servers, they spread the base way out. the result is that the "base" defenses are farther away from what actually matters than in lower build point servers -- what people don't realize is that it doesn't matter how many turrets you have when they are all too far away or too cluttered to hit anything
I let you live in the fantasy world where every server other than SST has perfect building.
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I let you live in the fantasy world where every server other than SST has perfect building.
servers that i have admin and am on do, !designate/!denybuild/!kick xxx decon without a word
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@temple
Considering you are incapable of reading and responding intelligently, I'll just pretend that this addressed your post and raised a dozen flaws with your logic. I expect a fully thought out response... well, as thought out as your last one was.
I can only imagine how much thinking must hurt for you. But I'm not sorry. It really amuses me a lot.
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@temple
fast edit FTW :)
anyway its all a matter of perspective, someone who starts trem journey on SST CANT and never will grasp the concept of proper building. SST is americas army/battlefield of trem, and real trem is a chess game.
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@temple
Considering you are incapable of reading and responding intelligently, I'll just pretend that this addressed your post and raised a dozen flaws with your logic. I expect a fully thought out response... well, as thought out as your last one was.
I can only imagine how much thinking must hurt for you. But I'm not sorry. It really amuses me a lot.
I agree, Undeference. Reading posts can help a lot.
As for SST, I reckon less BP, and no FF is a good idea. I can't stande FF. Damn teamkillers! That's why I don't play on SST or Beergarden any more.
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@temple
fast edit FTW :)
anyway its all a matter of perspective, someone who starts trem journey on SST CANT and never will grasp the concept of proper building. SST is americas army/battlefield of trem, and real trem is a chess game.
I didn't start on SST, I started on Beer garden, Boom Boom, and AKKA when it was up. Boom Boom and SST are the only servers I get low ping on.
Its funny cause SST has FF, !denybuild, forced random teams, and the works. You know, skill related settings.
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@temple
fast edit FTW :)
anyway its all a matter of perspective, someone who starts trem journey on SST CANT and never will grasp the concept of proper building. SST is americas army/battlefield of trem, and real trem is a chess game.
I prefer calling it the pop music of Trem.
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someone who starts trem journey on SST CANT and never will grasp the concept of proper building.
If people were capable of learning from their mistakes, it wouldn't be impossible. It would just be very different. (Of course, instead of people realizing "hey, I really mucked up that base", they blame others.)
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i can build with 100 bps and hold back S3 SD aliens for a good 10 minutes, something thats impossible to pull off on SST with 260 bps.
same maps, close to the same player counts, no noob building.
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@temple
Considering you are incapable of reading and responding intelligently, I'll just pretend that this addressed your post and raised a dozen flaws with your logic. I expect a fully thought out response... well, as thought out as your last one was.
I can only imagine how much thinking must hurt for you. But I'm not sorry. It really amuses me a lot.
I agree, Undeference. Reading posts can help a lot.
As for SST, I reckon less BP, and no FF is a good idea. I can't stande FF. Damn teamkillers! That's why I don't play on SST or Beergarden any more.
Since when did Beergarden have ff? Unless you meant BoomBoom
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no i am just gald too see sst back online yea :) :) :) :) :D :D :D :D and guys dont ditch sst it is one of the best servers about
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I really don't understand why people flame SST for BP's and amount of players.
If anything, flame for shitty admins (not all of you but a few really need a slap behind the ears)
SST can be a lot of fun if you're playing with good people from other servers.
While I really hate SST building style cretins, it's amazing what good builders can build on SST (non SST builders that is).
It's also fun to have an all out fight with the enemy without worrying about coming back to a dead base.
As long as you can relax and not flip out about being TK'ed, SST can be loads of fun. After all, you can work up your creds faster the you can say "cookie" :wink:
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yea ur rite it can be quite fun :)
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For some reason, on SST in Niveus, they always move to the next room over.
Is this a bad base or is it just me?
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It's not great but any of the good bases would be impossible to get to with 12+ players per team.
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Each server appeals to its own gamers. SST hosts Subspace mainly, and that is a MMO with ships and space and stuff. SST is the MMO of tremulous, with high player count, and high bp count.
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well I tried SST when all the servers I used to go to were all empty (I was playing REALLY late. I mean, REALLY REALLY LATE) and well, I guess I had little bit of fun...
we played in ATCS Alphazone and because of so many bps, the aliens put tubes and eggs right front of the human base... but some people and I got rid of that.
I guess it was okay... but because of so many bps... no one can really attack, until aliens charged at the same time and we got totally owned...
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SST hasd its uses, mainly as a place to keep all the noobs and asshat admins.
problem is the high BPS teaches the noobs bad building then they come to the real servers and build the same way there.
atcs with 100bps and the idiots build 2 arms, 4 teles and 3 medis then bitch cause they are out of bps and ZOMG OLNY 100 PBS THES SERVAR IS THE SUX!!111ONEHUNDREDANDELEVEN.
and while hes bitching the base is getting fucked because of him.
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The funny (or sad thing) is that familiar players on SST don't build poorly, its just the new people. Bad building affects SST like anyone else. Unfortunately, all bad building is the sole responsibilty of SST (at least on the tremulous forums).
Last night so idiot moved the reactor into a position that caused half the base to be out of the powergrid. And I'm not talking distance structures, I'm talking on a very common map that rarely gets the reactor moved.
I thought 'What small server did this idiot come from?'
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The funny (or sad thing) is that familiar players on SST don't build poorly, its just the new people. Bad building affects SST like anyone else. Unfortunately, all bad building is the sole responsibilty of SST (at least on the tremulous forums).
Last night so idiot moved the reactor into a position that caused half the base to be out of the powergrid. And I'm not talking distance structures, I'm talking on a very common map that rarely gets the reactor moved.
I thought 'What small server did this idiot come from?'
Then you are a moron. Small BP server builders (and their teams) make a mistake once and learn when their base gets raped 5 minutes later. I CONSTANTLY see MISERABLE building on SST, often from self proclaimed experts who bitch and moan, threatening to kick anyone who's building they don't understand, which is most.
The best builders learn to build effectively with little, and are devastating with a lot.
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Then you are a moron. Small BP server builders (and their teams) make a mistake once and learn when their base gets raped 5 minutes later. I CONSTANTLY see MISERABLE building on SST, often from self proclaimed experts who bitch and moan, threatening to kick anyone who's building they don't understand, which is most.
The best builders learn to build effectively with little, and are devastating with a lot.
I've got to second that.
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Woah woah woah woah. WOAH. I did NOT have relations with that woman! How dare you accuse me of such a thing! So what if I had marital relations with her!
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Then you are a moron. Small BP server builders (and their teams) make a mistake once and learn when their base gets raped 5 minutes later. I CONSTANTLY see MISERABLE building on SST, often from self proclaimed experts who bitch and moan, threatening to kick anyone who's building they don't understand, which is most.
The best builders learn to build effectively with little, and are devastating with a lot.
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Then you are a moron. Small BP server builders (and their teams) make a mistake once and learn when their base gets raped 5 minutes later. I CONSTANTLY see MISERABLE building on SST, often from self proclaimed experts who bitch and moan, threatening to kick anyone who's building they don't understand, which is most.
The best builders learn to build effectively with little, and are devastating with a lot.
Indeed.
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My milkshake brings all the dretches to the yard and there like, its better then yours, damn straight, its better then yours, I can eat you, but i'd have to charge..
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My milkshake brings all the dretches to the yard and there like, its better then yours, damn straight, its better then yours, I can eat you, but i'd have to charge..
They're not there.
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My hive killss all the humans in base,
and there like, we are being eaten here,
damn straight, they are being eaten alive,
they could run, but they are trapped
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Then you are a moron. Small BP server builders (and their teams) make a mistake once and learn when their base gets raped 5 minutes later. I CONSTANTLY see MISERABLE building on SST, often from self proclaimed experts who bitch and moan, threatening to kick anyone who's building they don't understand, which is most.
The best builders learn to build effectively with little, and are devastating with a lot.
I've got to second that.
I agree wholeheartedly with this post.
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Yes yes... but still, the more players you have, the more bps you need (this in no way excuses amatuerish building). Imagine 4-5 tyrants/adv goons attacking even a well-built 100bps human base at SD... it's game, set and match quicker than you can say, "We've been deconned!"
Then you are a moron. Small BP server builders (and their teams) make a mistake once and learn when their base gets raped 5 minutes later. I CONSTANTLY see MISERABLE building on SST, often from self proclaimed experts who bitch and moan, threatening to kick anyone who's building they don't understand, which is most.
The best builders learn to build effectively with little, and are devastating with a lot.
I've got to second that.
I agree wholeheartedly with this post.
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This SST bashing is getting stupid, I have seen idiot builders before SST was opened, and I have seen idiot builders after it opened, so how does idiot builders have ANYTHING to do with SST ??
Maybe idiot builders are just that, idiot builders, just like you will always see battlegrangers, thats not SSTs fault, its the idiot who is piloting the grangers who is at fault, contributing bad player behaviour to SST is just childish.
A good builder can build a good base with 100 points, and he/she can build a good base with 260 points, a bad builder is sure to mess up no matter how many/few points he have.
Personally I play SST because I like playing on big servers, and find that having 260 BPS adds some fun to the mix.
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yuo r alz foking retorded if u dun liek sst then dun play there.
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yuo r alz foking retorded if u dun liek sst then dun play there.
Best Line EVAR
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Yes yes... but still, the more players you have, the more bps you need (this in no way excuses amatuerish building). Imagine 4-5 tyrants/adv goons attacking even a well-built 100bps human base at SD... it's game, set and match quicker than you can say, "We've been deconned!"
no, ive built several times and held back groups larger than that all the way to their base falling or to timelimit.