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Media => Mapping Center => Topic started by: rasz_pl on December 16, 2006, 04:06:06 am

Title: slimfast
Post by: rasz_pl on December 16, 2006, 04:06:06 am
I would like to ask all the FAT ASS motherforker mappers to STOP making HUGE maps with 3 humvee wide corridors. Go play aliens for a while and you will understand what am I talking about.
 Thank you.
Title: slimfast
Post by: Caveman on December 16, 2006, 05:36:55 am
When I first saw this topic I was like WTF?! "They annected his account to post another get-rich-scam" *G*
Title: slimfast
Post by: Basilisco on December 16, 2006, 12:13:30 pm
Too bad this thread is less interesting than the actual product spam..
Title: slimfast
Post by: Taiyo.uk on December 16, 2006, 12:44:44 pm
I would like to thank all the mappers for the good work with the large maps.

If anything, why not make a server mod that selects maps based on the number of players at the start of each game? I.e. ATCS if there are 4 players, Procyon if there are 40.
Title: slimfast
Post by: rasz_pl on December 16, 2006, 01:21:08 pm
Quote from: "Taiyo.uk"
I would like to thank all the mappers for the good work with the large maps.

If anything, why not make a server mod that selects maps based on the number of players at the start of each game? I.e. ATCS if there are 4 players, Procyon if there are 40.

you didnt understand, did you?
 I have NOTHING against big maps (Pulse FTW), I just HATE empty HUGE pointless corridors in them (atcs alpha and hundred more).
Title: slimfast
Post by: Taiyo.uk on December 16, 2006, 01:43:17 pm
Quote from: "rasz_pl"
you didnt understand, did you?
I have NOTHING against big maps (Pulse FTW), I just HATE empty HUGE pointless corridors in them (atcs alpha and hundred more).

Errrrmmmm...... Goodness Gracious! You're right! I haven't quite got the hang of this whole reading thing yet :wink:

Anyway, in that case I'm in agreement - Large empty corridors and spaces are dull. Detailed corridors (such as those of nexus6, arachnid, pulse, etc..) add allot of "beef" to a map - imagine karith with plain flat walls. So to all mappers: forget the polycount and map with unlimited detail points!
Title: slimfast
Post by: Fluxflashor on December 16, 2006, 05:46:19 pm
Quote from: "rasz_pl"
Quote from: "Taiyo.uk"
I would like to thank all the mappers for the good work with the large maps.

If anything, why not make a server mod that selects maps based on the number of players at the start of each game? I.e. ATCS if there are 4 players, Procyon if there are 40.

you didnt understand, did you?
 I have NOTHING against big maps (Pulse FTW), I just HATE empty HUGE pointless corridors in them (atcs alpha and hundred more).


WTF is wrong with ATCSALPHA? It's an awesome map, better than ATCS because of the longer and wider corridors.
Title: Re: slimfast
Post by: gareth on December 16, 2006, 06:11:09 pm
Quote from: "rasz_pl"
I would like to ask all the FAT ASS motherforker mappers to STOP making HUGE maps with 3 humvee wide corridors. Go play aliens for a while and you will understand what am I talking about.
 Thank you.


ah, you mean nice wide corridors, so tyrants can actually dodge the human fire.
Title: slimfast
Post by: techhead on December 16, 2006, 10:46:55 pm
Please don't make the corridors skinnier than 2 tyrants wide, otherwise blocking will soon become a spectator sport.
And by spectators, I mean humans with chain-guns.
Title: Re: slimfast
Post by: rasz_pl on December 17, 2006, 03:54:54 am
Quote from: "gareth"
Quote from: "rasz_pl"
I would like to ask all the FAT ASS motherforker mappers to STOP making HUGE maps with 3 humvee wide corridors. Go play aliens for a while and you will understand what am I talking about.
 Thank you.


ah, you mean nice wide corridors, so tyrants can actually dodge the human fire.

yes, all 17 of them tyrrants, all in humvees with pompons

Ok, so I have to make it more clear for some ppl :/

(http://www.keepmyfile.com/thumb/11663193605b1ebf.gif) (http://www.keepmyfile.com/image/5b1ebf1278085)
this is basically the whole map, one nice big parking lot for tyrrants in humvees

(http://www.keepmyfile.com/thumb/1166319360aff2de.gif) (http://www.keepmyfile.com/image/aff2de1278084)
mm creative, lets park our tyrrant X-Wings there

(http://www.keepmyfile.com/thumb/11663193599dc95e.gif) (http://www.keepmyfile.com/image/9dc95e1278083)
and trucks there

(http://www.keepmyfile.com/thumb/1166319358d09b97.gif) (http://www.keepmyfile.com/image/d09b971278082)
~800 feet of open corridor with no place to hide

(http://www.keepmyfile.com/thumb/11663193585081ed.gif) (http://www.keepmyfile.com/image/5081ed1278081)
but hey, at least its tall, so tyrrants can fly up and hide there, not to mention that ordinary human model looks like a leprechaun next to the scelets on this map

Im talking about the scale. If you are fat (or american, which is kinda tautology by itselfe) you make everything bigger to accommodate your fat ass. You end up with ATCS-Alpha human base being able to fit ~20 tyrrants attacking at once, or ~20 BS-chain humans standing one next to each other and shooting same target.
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Post by: kozak6 on December 17, 2006, 03:59:47 am
The last two pictures shouldn't count.  It wasn't originally even intended for Tremulous (and plays horribly).  

As for the first two, meh.

I think I prefer 4 lane highway halls to the barely 1 tyrant wide halls anyways.
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Post by: jal on December 17, 2006, 12:05:11 pm
I agree with rasz. Most custom maps I've seen don't really addapt fine for Trem gameplay limitations. If not cause of failing to prevent jetpack abuse and/or egg spamming, cause of allowing unbreakable camping bases, or cause of not thinking enough architecture with a gameplay based point of view.
Title: slimfast
Post by: Lava Croft on December 18, 2006, 10:11:29 am
Too bad Rasz is dumb enough to posts pics of Marsbase.
Title: slimfast
Post by: Survivor on December 18, 2006, 04:52:01 pm
Quote from: "Lava Croft"
Too bad Rasz is dumb enough to posts pics of Marsbase.


And hamunaptra, a goddamn map made for dueling in q3, not trem. Get your facts straight rasz.
Wide is a tactical choice, too bad most mappers just suck at tactics. That's why people should fucking alpha before going into beta.
Title: slimfast
Post by: techhead on December 18, 2006, 05:04:42 pm
Quote from: "Taiyo.uk"
I would like to thank all the mappers for the good work with the large maps.

If anything, why not make a server mod that selects maps based on the number of players at the start of each game? I.e. ATCS if there are 4 players, Procyon if there are 40.


If anyone bothers to look at the map rotation section of the manual, then you would notice that you can indeed script that.
Title: slimfast
Post by: holyknight on December 18, 2006, 11:46:15 pm
if you don't like those maps, then don't play it. Other people likes it you know
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