Tremulous Forum
General => Feedback => Topic started by: Solo on January 11, 2007, 03:04:53 pm
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Many people think that dretch being able to head shot from the ground is an exploit, others think it isn't, but the fact that a starter alien can kill a starter human in 2 hits is bad. I myself think this is an exploit and should be removed from the game to balance the gameplay.
It also allows dretches to kill with stealth, i mean if your going to lose 96% hp in one hit your going to want a warning aren't you?
I think there was a warning intended. The dretch makes a noise when it jumps, indicating that (if its coming from behind you) its going for a head shot, and you can move out of the way, but dretches don't need to jump for a headshot, giving the human a 1 in 9999999999 chance of survival if the attacker comes from behind.
I think this should be fixed, this is a problem with the game and i am posting it back as a suggestion, post your thoughts.
And if one of the creators of tremulous could tell me if dretch was origionaly intended to head shot from ground that would be great thanks.
Edit: Before you vote, find out the meaning of exploit if you don't allready know it, thx.
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If you vote in the poll can you please give a reason for your answer please thx.
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what a noob
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Maybe it should be fixed, but you can do it yourself aswell so doesn't really matter. Go play instad of whining all the time -.-'
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Im posting my FEEDBACK and SUGGESTIONS, read the title before you make an unescisary childish immature comment, oops too late.
After all thats what this part of the forum is for, FEEDBACK.
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Im posting my FEEDBACK and SUGGESTIONS, read the title before you make an unescisary childish immature comment, oops too late.
After all thats what this part of the forum is for, FEEDBACK.
And the feedback for you is:
Take a hike and don't come back.
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what a noob
I'm not a noob, perhaps to this forum.. but not to tremulous, i can easily take down dretches while naked, but im thinking of other players who cant, i mean what is an REAL noob gona think about tremulous if he joins a game and dies in two hits from a spider thats about the hight of his boots?
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Im posting my FEEDBACK and SUGGESTIONS, read the title before you make an unescisary childish immature comment, oops too late.
After all thats what this part of the forum is for, FEEDBACK.
And the feedback for you is:
Take a hike and don't come back.
Oh, caveman you wana play that game? just give me the signal and we can start flaming insults at each other like children, if you cant say anything positive and mature about this discussion then just keep your ignorant, *quote* Egoisitc bat-weilding thoughts to yourself, because to be ohnest nobody wants to hear anything stupid like that now do they? How old are you caveman? 3? 4? 5 at the most right? well thats the age you act like.
I duno who or what you slept with to get admin on aliens wrath.
I wouldnt give you any form of responisiblity at all untill you get your attitude sorted out.
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Geez, Solo, are you sure you went to school and had some English lessons?
Are you really a natively-English-speaking-person?
You make fun of others that never really learned English and yet you royaly fail yourself at any attempt to comunicate in your professed mother-tongue.
If i am only 5, then you have Altzheimer's.
oh, btw:
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Solo... we had disscussion about this before... and we don't want any more stuff about this...
you think no one would have ever thought "OMG DRETCH GROUND HEADBITE IS ALL WRONG!" and crap like that? Here's the advice: Don't try and be cocky, people hate that. Everyone hate that. So just go and play instead of talking in here. Or learn to be more mature unlike you did in the other thread
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I always thought ground headbites were cheap.
Then I tried it one time and now I respect ground-headbiters.
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The alien team is at less of a disadvantage with n00bs than is the human team because expert alien players are at a greater advantage playing aliens than they are humans. It is simply much easier and has more of an affect on the outcome of a game to play the lone tyrant than it is to try to get a number of n00bish human players to coordinate. Humans have to coordinate to do anything and when they do they're pretty formittable; when no coordination is available the aliens gain major advantages since humans are, unit-for-unit, weaker than everything the aliens have.
The dretch doing 96 damage in one hit is vital to it being balanced in a bout between 2 good players. The dretch moves roughly the same speed as a human and it's weapon is melee in nature. This means the dretch has to close in on the human who can not only jump over it but also make their movements random enough that closing in directly or otherwise is nearly impossible. More importantly, if the human has good aim you can't move in straight which means you've got to get creative. This is why stealth is important to dretches; without suprise you have to close in a very long range and if they have good aim you're screwed.
I honestly believe the best way to balance it out is to give the humans some kind of alien warning system such as a heartbeat sensor which alerts them to the generic presence of an alien. All it'd have to do is sit in by the reticle and blink yellow whenever an alien gets close. N00b players would know it's time to be careful, expert players would have an idea of where the dretch would be hiding. The same would balance out, for example, tyrants drawing out humans by retreating and then stopping. If the tyrant stopped and your sensor went off you'd know they were waiting around the corner and it was time to retreat.
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Caveman im scottish not english, i use alot of slang in my country (you would see what i ment if you came here) so im not used to speaking proper english, but atleast what i says make sence.
Holyknight i dont remember being cocky, and you tell me "just play dont post here", im posting here because the makers of tremulous made this forum for the players (thats us) to give feedback on what they think is wrong and what is right, thats what im doing and you arent going to stop me with babyish anti-social complaints.
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Caveman im scottish not english, i use alot of slang in my country (you would see what i ment if you came here) so im not used to speaking proper english, but atleast what i says make sence.
Holyknight i dont remember being cocky, and you tell me "just play dont post here", im posting here because the makers of tremulous made this forum for the players (thats us) to give feedback on what they think is wrong and what is right, thats what im doing and you arent going to stop me with babyish anti-social complaints.
What we mean is that we've had this discussion. Several times over already in random threads.
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Caveman im scottish not english, i use alot of slang in my country (you would see what i ment if you came here) so im not used to speaking proper english, but atleast what i says make sence.
Holyknight i dont remember being cocky, and you tell me "just play dont post here", im posting here because the makers of tremulous made this forum for the players (thats us) to give feedback on what they think is wrong and what is right, thats what im doing and you arent going to stop me with babyish anti-social complaints.
What we mean is that we've had this discussion. Several times over already in random threads.
I didn't know about that, but still i would like to know if this was intended from the start, if its intended to be fixed and a link to one of the previous discussions about it to see how it turned out, thx.
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Ground headbites are not as easy as you make them out to be. Yes, skilled players can do it, but lots of new or average players can't, don't bother, or jump.
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Caveman im scottish not english, i use alot of slang in my country (you would see what i ment if you came here) so im not used to speaking proper english, but atleast what i says make sence.
Holyknight i dont remember being cocky, and you tell me "just play dont post here", im posting here because the makers of tremulous made this forum for the players (thats us) to give feedback on what they think is wrong and what is right, thats what im doing and you arent going to stop me with babyish anti-social complaints.
What we mean is that we've had this discussion. Several times over already in random threads.
I didn't know about that, but still i would like to know if this was intended from the start, if its intended to be fixed and a link to one of the previous discussions about it to see how it turned out, thx.
It is not my duty to search for you. I'm doing this once.
http://tremulous.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2301
The main discussion happens in the first part of the thread. Please don't necro the thread since the discussion is over.
As far as I know it was intended to balance out the 5 bullet kill of a dretch and will remain the same. Anyone not being able to kill a single dretch 50% of the time in a single clip should not come here and complain about imbalance but learn to at least dodge and aim.
The main reason dretches are so powerful is that humans:
1. Spam an entire clip; during the reload dretches attack and take out.
(Hint: Divide the clip into several bursts of around 10 bullets, the dretch will not be sure which is your reload, maybe even reload with 10 bullets left to throw it off)
2. Don't learn to account for ping during aiming; aliens have this less since they need to be up close to deal damage anyway.
(Lag compensation is a feeling which depends upon your own settings
3. Are bad at predicting; the 'alien' players, when playing humans, input their own decision making as alien in the alien path prediction of which they have great knowledge and learn to predict escape/attack routes and intercept weak aliens.
and aliens:
4. Ambush; they wait and sneak behind you. Which is their full right.
5. Are fast; which they need to be because humans have range.
1,2 & 3 are (erronously) learned by players at the start while 4 & 5 were intended.
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as much as i love my ground headshots, no it was not intended and no it will not remain the same. :cry:
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Caveman im scottish not english, i use alot of slang in my country (you would see what i ment if you came here) so im not used to speaking proper english, but atleast what i says make sence.
Holyknight i dont remember being cocky, and you tell me "just play dont post here", im posting here because the makers of tremulous made this forum for the players (thats us) to give feedback on what they think is wrong and what is right, thats what im doing and you arent going to stop me with babyish anti-social complaints.
what I mean is, you shouldn't go yell out shitty craps just because someone said something bad to you. Let's just say... you had a bad start... if you want to start over, try and be more cheerful this time or make a new account...
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as much as i love my ground headshots, no it was not intended and no it will not remain the same. :cry:
source?
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as much as i love my ground headshots, no it was not intended and no it will not remain the same. :cry:
source?
timbo+tjw
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I stand corrected. Hope they don't nerf it too much.
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1. Spam an entire clip; during the reload dretches attack and take out.
(Hint: Divide the clip into several bursts of around 10 bullets, the dretch will not be sure which is your reload, maybe even reload with 10 bullets left to throw it off)
You do a certain action when you reload (bringing down the gun or something like that), so they wil KNOW if you reload. They don't have to guess.
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as much as i love my ground headshots, no it was not intended and no it will not remain the same. :cry:
source?
timbo+tjw
+jex+catalyc
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1. Spam an entire clip; during the reload dretches attack and take out.
(Hint: Divide the clip into several bursts of around 10 bullets, the dretch will not be sure which is your reload, maybe even reload with 10 bullets left to throw it off)
You do a certain action when you reload (bringing down the gun or something like that), so they wil KNOW if you reload. They don't have to guess.
In the heat of the action it's enough to save you a few milliseconds. We're not here to argue about that.
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as much as i love my ground headshots, no it was not intended and no it will not remain the same. :cry:
source?
timbo+tjw
+jex+catalyc
So long as they keep the ground chestbites in I'm fine with it, otherwise, time to get my angry mob gear. :)
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On second thought...
Dretch hiding around a corner + headbite from ground + human unable to manuver in time = aliens winning all the time during S1 because the humans CANNOT explore the map.
Also, doing a headshot as a dretch is as easy as pointing the mouse up and using WASD to move around. As soon as you come anywhere near the human, bam, headshot. Super easy and no decrease in speed.
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Yes and no to the GHS's
Yes it is a glitch in the sense that the dretch is extending its bit 4-5 times the size its supposed to. Yes its extremly cheap.
No, it is not a "hack" it was built into the game.
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I like both floor and ceiling headbites, they are part of the game. If you cannot shoot the dretches then too bad for you.
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Posting this pic again in the interest of public awareness.
(http://evilbastard.org/slight/lolheadchomp.gif)
That shows the maximum range for landing a body / head shot with dretch, if you aim up at about 45 degrees you should land the headshot, from the dretches POV at ground level, you should be looking slightly above the head.
Jumping increases your range by roughly 30%, since the line is no longer tilted up at 45 degrees; it's the same range you have to land a foot shot from ground level.
Also worth noting is the bounding box of the dretch. It's effin' HUGE, and most of it is above the visible model, so as a human it is better to aim a little above the dretch. Aiming directly at it means some of your rounds will probably hit the floor in front of it, unless you are using a weapon with zero spread like the lasgun.
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Caveman im scottish not english, i use alot of slang in my country (you would see what i ment if you came here) so im not used to speaking proper english, but atleast what i says make sence.
Holyknight i dont remember being cocky, and you tell me "just play dont post here", im posting here because the makers of tremulous made this forum for the players (thats us) to give feedback on what they think is wrong and what is right, thats what im doing and you arent going to stop me with babyish anti-social complaints.
what I mean is, you shouldn't go yell out shitty craps just because someone said something bad to you. Let's just say... you had a bad start... if you want to start over, try and be more cheerful this time or make a new account...
No.
"shitty craps" is a good way to describe the "somthing bad" to me.
Holyknight i dont know what your problem is with me, i wanted a few questions answered and you flame me with backchat and bitch at me to do stupid stuff like make a new account and be more cheerfull?
I'll never change my personality for anyone, especialy not for some psyched up lowlife with an iq of 5 that cant say anything positive.
I am who i am, you dont like it? i dont give a fuck.
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Thanks for answering my questions guys, apreciate it.
Thanks for wasting my time the other immature idiots looking to grow there net penis.
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Thanks for answering my questions guys, apreciate it.
Thanks for wasting my time the other immature idiots looking to grow there net penis.
thanks for creating another useless topic and wasting forum space
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Thanks for answering my questions guys, apreciate it.
Thanks for wasting my time the other immature idiots looking to grow there net penis.
thanks for creating another useless topic and wasting forum space
1. Your an ignorant basterd.
2. This isn't a waste of space, i had questions that needed answered thats what forums are for, don't like it? don't use it.
3. This isn't useless as my question was answered.
4. I don't force you to read my "Useless" topics, so stop with your anti-social antics you asshole.
- When providing feedback, start a new thread unless you're commenting on an issue already identified.
- Name your threads sensibly. "Feedback" is not a good name. Provide some information regarding the contents of the thread in the thread title.
- Try to be positive.
- If you don't like the way something works, suggest a viable alternative.
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you failed at the first step since that problem was identified ages ago
use forum search!!!
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I think Solo and his topics should be removed from the forums.
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Posting this pic again in the interest of public awareness.
Are you sure that those distances are accurate? It looks much longer than a dretch bite should be.
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Posting this pic again in the interest of public awareness.
Are you sure that those distances are accurate? It looks much longer than a dretch bite should be.
DRETCH
speed: 1.3
health: 25
regen: 1
reward: 175
bite damage: 48
bite repeat: 500ms
bite range: 64
the distance is in gu which would make it about 2 persons wide (human hitbox = 30x30x56 iirc) This corresponds with the picture and the painsaw range which is 40 gu or 1.33 human hitbox long.
PAINSAW
damage: 15
repeat: 75
dps: 200
range: 40
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I think Solo is a darn retard for getting on the wrong side of everybody on these forums.. Noone likes your 'tough guy' talking anyways. (especially not with all the typos, makes you look extra unintelligent.
And dont come here talking about being mature; you remember the time you constantly spammed Slots Slots to make fun of my name in Alien's wrath for 3-4 games?
:roll:
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Posting this pic again in the interest of public awareness.
Are you sure that those distances are accurate? It looks much longer than a dretch bite should be.
the picture actually looks about 10-15% too close to me, but i only have experience from first person view.
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...you remember the time you constantly spammed Slots Slots to make fun of my name in Alien's wrath for 3-4 games?
That was one of the harrassment-cases that lead to his demotion from lvl3 to lvl1 before his ban.
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Lol, i didnt know he got demoted for that. :p
I'm happy now, i really didnt know i held a grudge before i got my revenge. XD
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I think Solo is a darn retard for getting on the wrong side of everybody on these forums.. Noone likes your 'tough guy' talking anyways. (especially not with all the typos, makes you look extra unintelligent.
And dont come here talking about being mature; you remember the time you constantly spammed Slots Slots to make fun of my name in Alien's wrath for 3-4 games?
:roll:
Good times lol, you were having a bad day it was just a joke.. lol
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...you remember the time you constantly spammed Slots Slots to make fun of my name in Alien's wrath for 3-4 games?
That was one of the harrassment-cases that lead to his demotion from lvl3 to lvl1 before his ban.
Lies, Lies and more lies, i was NEVER lvl 3 and i was NEVER lvl 1... i was lvl 2 when i said it and was lvl 2 when i got banned, so screw you caveman.
Edit: plus you werent even there, ask abbath all about it if you want the truth because cavemans desprate cry for attention is getting the better of him.
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Plus since you brought up the aliens wrath bull shit again, banning me made no diffrence i can still play on your server with a proxy ip... but im not gona because your server is a shithole where admins get to abuse because they pay for a server. "Oh look im god, BEND OVER OR BAN". fuck off caveman.
I stood up for what i beleived in, always have and always will.
Its people like me that were put on this shit hole we call earth to teach stupid elderly old men with iq's of 5 their abc's when it comes to respect.
Why would i want to play on aliens wrath when i can play on YK@ Dark Lair?
Aliens wrath are a bunch of middle aged men with nothing to molest so they decided to go on a power trip over the internet, the place is anti-social, the only good thing about it is the people that play on it and maybe one day it wll hit those people that aliens wrath is a shit hole...
Edit: when i say anti-social i mean when i ask napkin a pure simple question while he is standing infront of me not fighting and he COMPLETLY ignores me, then later maybe someone will pm me and say don't talk during game.. why do you think they made ingame chatting?
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I think Solo is a darn retard
Go fuck yourself.
I don't think i piss everyone of you off.
All of my posts have purpose, allthough a purpose that some might dissagree with, so they decide to start flaming and insulting me because there brains have limited memory storage and there vocabulary consists of nothing but vowels, therefor they cant think of anything on topic to say, they just have to ressurect the past and start getting it personal, anyway like your opinion matters to me? once you can learn to take a joke then you can start to critisize others, slots.
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wtf is wrong with you? I was never negative in the previous post... I was just saying you were saying bad stuff and you should stop it...
no one is gonna go "OMG HE IS SOOO COOL BY SAYING HE IS RIGHT ALL THE TIME! OMG!" and admire you or anything. Instead, they'll just fucking hate your stupid, ugly face. So stop yelling like shit...
as for dretch ground headbite, I think that the dretches should look up when you are aiming up, I mean, it's so confusing look at them and going "Or they going to headbite or just normal bite?" And you are less careful then.
Also, if you aren't going to change your personality like that, you are going to have a tough life.
At least "ACT" like a normal person. God...
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Hahaha what an awesome way to increase our post counts.
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I think Solo and his topics should be removed from the forums.
+1
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and i think he is a reincarnation of hitler, a stupid one, but hey, its not like Hitler would have good karma.
(it might be that i'm biased because i'm watching a movie about him now.)
(about Hitler, not Solo)
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Here's a question for solo.
Can you find the edit button?
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first off, you are a noob, and not the good tipe (newb). do you ever think, at all?
the fact that an alien starter can kill a human in two hits is unbalanced
let's examine this
facts
1. dretches can kill in two hits with a headbite
2. any human will probably hear it
3. a human can kill a dreth in five hits with a highly fast repeating weapon FROM A DISTANCE which a dretch cannot do
4. you are a moron
all your complaints are null and void in s2. the only way to make it more than 2 hits a kill is to lower the dretchheadbite damage to lower than 50, which is unheard of
shut up and think for once in your life
oh, and, stop spamming LIKE HELL
not many of my posts can be considered intelligent, and you still have more than 60% of my count, when you have been here since, like, 1.5-2.5 weeks
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Hahaha what an awesome way to increase our post counts.
:)
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Solo, you fucktard, it went above a mere joke when you had spammed SLOTS SLOTS for the n'th time and i had told you to stop it about 3 times.
And you were't only spamming slots slots, you were being an annoying bastard by telling me to 'shut up, crybaby', 'cry, cry' 'slots is just a crybaby' etc.
You sincerely deserve all the bans/ asskicks/ wedgies/ bitch slaps and kicks to the face that you should probably recieve plenty of every day as a cause of your behaviour.
Now snap shut your blabber/blow hole before i get real angry.
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Solo, you fucktard, it went above a mere joke when you had spammed SLOTS SLOTS for the n'th time and i had told you to stop it about 3 times.
And you were't only spamming slots slots, you were being an annoying bastard by telling me to 'shut up, crybaby', 'cry, cry' 'slots is just a crybaby' etc.
You sincerely deserve all the bans/ asskicks/ wedgies/ bitch slaps and kicks to the face that you should probably recieve plenty of every day as a cause of your behaviour.
Now snap shut your blabber/blow hole before i get real angry.
lol @ wedgies and bitchslaps.
And hey Solo, what's your ingame name? Because I never saw you in YK
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why would you want to see him ingame?
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:) You should ask YK-Clan what they think of him and when they last saw him .)
I think Solo is the only one thinking he is in YK .)
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Excuse me all, I must have opened the wrong door; I was looking for the front desk and opened the door to middle school classes instead. Again, pardon me.
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No problem, don't let your name hit you on the way out.
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lol, never saw that coming... :D
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No problem, don't let your name hit you on the way out.
A touche about the size of the Patronas Towers.
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Ground headbites are cheap in the sense that they are unexpected. However, they are perfectly fine to me and should be to anyone that has played Tremulous for a while.
Honestly, the goal in killing a dretch is to so before they get in range. Ground headbites have nothing to do with it. I think forcing a jump will make killing dretches much easier because once aerial, dretches have no control and become much more predictable.
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I voted no for 1 main reason :
A good human can move very fast and it's easy to stay away from a dretch. and dretch die in 5 bullets.
Try to hit me when you are dretch before i kill you ... And now imagine without headshot from ground how hard it will be to kill me ...
Where is the "surprise effect" if you can't kill the human very fast ?
no really, useless topic.
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what a noob
I'm not a noob, perhaps to this forum.. but not to tremulous, i can easily take down dretches while naked, but im thinking of other players who cant, i mean what is an REAL noob gona think about tremulous if he joins a game and dies in two hits from a spider thats about the hight of his boots?
I'm naked!
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If a s1 Human gets owned by a lone dretch they were not looking around enough. Learn to turn around every couple secs. A good sensitivity is important for this. If you cant look around your not fast enough not to get snuck up on by a lone dretch. Turn it up and get used to it.
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low sens ftw
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If a s1 Human gets owned by a lone dretch they were not looking around enough. Learn to turn around every couple secs. A good sensitivity is important for this. If you cant look around your not fast enough not to get snuck up on by a lone dretch. Turn it up and get used to it.
Dretches can hide around corners. Once they're on you in S1vS1, you're fucked. A lone dretch in a crowd of 2-3 good players can own them all in S1VS1. You can say "look around" all you want; in some instances you don't even get a chance and it's a map design issue.
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Edge around one edge of the door till you see if there is a dretch there.
Or just run through it and turn around to shoot the bastard.
And stop reviving!
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While complaining about the evil dretch-ownage at S1, you should not forget what 2 turrets do to a dretch.
And, furthermore, please complain against S2 helmets to, because they basically revert the situation: now only a pretty skilled dretch can take a hummie in a 1 vs 1. At stage 1, without reinforcements, it is the other way around - this looks pretty balanced to me. You just have to stay in your base at S1, if you aren't tough enough for those dretch-fights.
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While complaining about the evil dretch-ownage at S1, you should not forget what 2 turrets do to a dretch.
And, furthermore, please complain against S2 helmets to, because they basically revert the situation: now only a pretty skilled dretch can take a hummie in a 1 vs 1. At stage 1, without reinforcements, it is the other way around - this looks pretty balanced to me. You just have to stay in your base at S1, if you aren't tough enough for those dretch-fights.
why should an s2 human who BOUGHT a helmet not kill an s1 dretch most of the time?
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I'll say this if you get rid of the ground headbite dretches have to have more health. And frankly lately it seems more and more humans are learning how to move making it much more difficult to get that ground headshot. I've gotten used to it being a part of the game. Most of the time the only people really getting owned by ground headshots are people very new to the game. I could live with getting rid of the ground headbite if dretches got 35-40 health and a heal rate of 3 hp per sec after it kicks in. that's what 7-8 bullets from a rifle, 4-5 lasgun shots and they would still be a one shot hit for a shotty. I'd say that would be fair.
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I could live with getting rid of the ground headbite if dretches got 35-40 health and a heal rate of 3 hp per sec after it kicks in. that's what 7-8 bullets from a rifle, 4-5 lasgun shots and they would still be a one shot hit for a shotty. I'd say that would be fair.
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According to hearsay attributed to the devs, there is no choice - ground headbite *is* gone. Hopefully there will be compensation as you suggest.
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Many people think that dretch being able to head shot from the ground is an exploit, others think it isn't, but the fact that a starter alien can kill a starter human in 2 hits is bad.
I have to point this out again, to kill in less than two hits means the headbite dretch damage has to be 49 or below
use your brain
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Ah, but with the current setup, a head-bite can be followed up by anything stronger than Granger spit.
If a head-bite and a leg-bite didn't kill, but a head-bite and a chest did, then a lot of Human players would be happier.
45 base damage (default 48) sounds like a sweet spot.
Head-shot, unarmored 90 dmg
Leg-shot, armored, 7 dmg
Chest-shot, armored, 11 dmg
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If a s1 Human gets owned by a lone dretch they were not looking around enough. Learn to turn around every couple secs. A good sensitivity is important for this. If you cant look around your not fast enough not to get snuck up on by a lone dretch. Turn it up and get used to it.
Dretches can hide around corners. Once they're on you in S1vS1, you're fucked. A lone dretch in a crowd of 2-3 good players can own them all in S1VS1. You can say "look around" all you want; in some instances you don't even get a chance and it's a map design issue.
A good group of humans would fan out as soon as a dretch appears so that 1 may die but the dretch is surely dead from the others.
If you know a map, you know where hiding spots are. Hell, I'm a good at human simply because I'm good at alien. The best bet for a human is just to run and look around occassionally but never stop moving. Its hard to ambush them. I know from experience on both sides.
I play with good people and its all a matter of who's thinking what when a dretch meets a naked human. I can go either way, I don't give either the advantage as long as dretches have a wall to climb on.
My success as an alien is based on the opposite happening.
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Ok Gun vs knive who usually wins?
Without ground headbites a human player could look straight and wait for dretchs to jump thru his vision. Not to mention every fix and change has been to make humans better.
Also it takes a good dretch to take out a good naked rifleman.
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Ah, but with the current setup, a head-bite can be followed up by anything stronger than Granger spit.
If a head-bite and a leg-bite didn't kill, but a head-bite and a chest did, then a lot of Human players would be happier.
45 base damage (default 48) sounds like a sweet spot.
Head-shot, unarmored 90 dmg
Leg-shot, armored, 7 dmg
Chest-shot, armored, 11 dmg
i'm perfectly fine with that, because some jump, so they can easily turn while jumping and hit the chest/head.
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knive wins
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no, it requires practice and skills to be able to do headshots with a dretch on the ground, a hummie could do the same thing to aliens if skilled thus it is balanced imo
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Errr... sorry for the revival..
But why is solo always in bold?
I am quite sure i did not put it in bold when i posted here..
And btw.. Has he been banned yet?
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solo isnt always in bold....and..this has to be the most retarted necro in history ><