Tremulous Forum
General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mopatop on February 15, 2007, 01:16:10 am
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how do u kno if someone is using one, or if someone is really skilled?
cos sometimes u get people who just dont miss with a md.
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people (like pinkyandthebrain) i believe use something called "unlagged". not sure what it does exactly, but they hit pretty good with the md.
you can tell if they are aimbotting if when you spec em, they appear to hit every shot (excluding md, in which case they may be using the above something)
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Yeah, spec 'em.
If you see them track enemies before they are visible, "snap" onto enemies, etc, they are probably botting.
Make sure you record a demo.
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yeah, if they are making weird jerks and movements, they are probably botting.
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There isn't a way to tell. they are using it, or not. If theres the slightest doubt in your mind, then they aren't using it.
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people (like pinkyandthebrain) i believe use something called "unlagged". not sure what it does exactly, but they hit pretty good with the md.
unlagged is a server mod that almost perfectly compensates for network latency for hittests on hitscan weapons.
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(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8943/shot0000wc3.jpg)
this is not an aimbot just let me see every ones HP buildables players
(thanks to new buildable status display)
not bad for 10 minutes. eh?
edit: thiss aimbot talk leads nowhere
just get used to living with it
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people (like pinkyandthebrain) i believe use something called "unlagged". not sure what it does exactly, but they hit pretty good with the md.
unlagged is a server mod that almost perfectly compensates for network latency for hittests on hitscan weapons.
What he said. When you play on most servers nowdays, you're using it too. :) What it means is that people no longer have to "lead" their shots with driver, shotty, mgun, etc. So suddenly when it went into play, a lot of people who have mediocre ping and the capability for good aim-n-twitch, but not path prediction, became capable.
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i wish i could get it to work. the shotgun is annoying with high ping.
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Ouch my eyes! Please change your sig.
Edit: yay, it's not flashing anymore.
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i wish i could get it to work. the shotgun is annoying with high ping.
The only weapons I can use with any degree of effectiveness with high ping are shotgun and mdriver.
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Where you playing on beergarden with me and pinky last night? Also Md is easier than it looks try it sometime.
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i get a lot of aimbotting acusations lately.. MD is an easy weapon to use if u get use to the movements of aliens.
this unlagged is actually screwing with it and helping at the same time.. leading my shots dont always work now but sometimes those around the corner just misses become finishing kills >D
only thing i can say is aimbotting cant match up to experience and real skill.
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Here (http://mercenariesguild.net/base/official.dm_69) is a demo of an aimbotter. The crappier aimbotters are very easy to identify. If you "think" you see an aimbotter, you probably don't.
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only thing i can say is aimbotting cant match up to experience and real skill.
Then why does everyone whine?
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(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6929/shot0000vs5.jpg)
(http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2143/shot0001fm5.jpg)
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Uh, what have screenshots of other players/buildings with their HP to do with aimbotting?
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Then why does everyone whine?
cause thats the world we live in.. being part of the same community we just have to put up with them and ignore their stupidity
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*snip*
you can see opposing hp too? that's kinda cheap...
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you can see opposing hp too? that's kinda cheap...
cheap? I'd say free as in freedom
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Where you playing on beergarden with me and pinky last night? Also Md is easier than it looks try it sometime.
nah it was on another server. where someone litterally didnt miss any shots. u n pinky atleast miss sometimes
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1-> check aimbot videos on youtube....
2-> check normal aim videos
3-> record the "cheater"
4-> analyze(u cant catch a cheater, who is playing like a normal playa..)
yea, and check some cheat forum ^^
sometimes it works, right pong? :wink:
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oh rite
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(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6929/shot0000vs5.jpg)
(http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2143/shot0001fm5.jpg)
Any chance of sharing that modification?
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I'me bored of hearing the [OPP]Pinkandthebrain uses an aimbot.
HE DOES NOT. He's just good with that friggin' Mass Driver!!Accept it,he's better than you and me!
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you can see opposing hp too? that's kinda cheat...
fixed
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you can see opposing hp too? that's kinda cheat...
fixed
and I by-pass pure check .... agaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaain :D
this is the code if you are interested
dont delete please; this portion of code doesnt exploit anything. this is something useful for modders
http://www.mercenariesguild.net/tremx/playerHP.patch
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http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot0034oz6.jpg
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http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot0034oz6.jpg
:o
looks like a hacked z-buffering...
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*cracky village elder voice*
Yee aaall belieeve iin thee aaaiimmboott!
For Ii have seen it, aaand ittis real!
*/cracky village elder voice*
Aimbots are overrated in stealth.
They are more rare than people think.
They are also much easier to spot than people think.
I've seen one, or at least a hack, this is what I saw, speccing.
Guy with MD. He had killed me quite a few times when I was a dretch at strange angles... So I decided to spec him.
I saw my alien teammates desparatly attacking him as goons and dretches, all to be killed amazingly quickly. 2 kills made me sure of it: he's not playing right.
Shot 1: I was speccing from outside. Dretch was closing in on him from the right - about 90 degrees from the direction he was facing. BAM. Shot. Dead dretch and the hummie hadn't moved at all. Just the one shot.
Shot 2: Another hummie had joined him. a rifle, no armour. Dretch runs up to rifler and attacks. I was watching from inside. I saw as the dretch attacked nekked hummie, carefully hid BEHIND him so the aimbotter (or hacker) couldn't hit him. He did. One shot killing a dretch BEHIND another hummie.
This makes me sad.
It makes me sad to see that people don't play fair.
Of course it is to be expected that there are unfair people out there, but this guy used to be a respectful honest guy in my eyes.
The way this world is built hurts me deeper than any sword possibly could.
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Dude I don't want to steal your sadness or anything, but have you considered that guy was just trying out an aimbot on that particular game? I mean, just because someone cheats once in a while doesn't mean humanity has gone evil, right?
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I read an article suggesting that surgeons who play online games are better at their job.
Considering surgeons have really steady hands and good coordination, I imagine the only thing preventing them from being aim bots is (possibly) tracking and reflexes, both of which can be honed.
Surgeons are aimbots. I think I went into the wrong line of work :cry:
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Surgeons are aimbots. I think I went into the wrong line of work :cry:
We are talking about aimbots, not uberplayer surgeons.
(Surgeons are walking aimbots?? Cool!! :D )
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actually, surgeons generally stand still when doing their work.
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actually, surgeons generally stand still when doing their work.
Yea, i jump up and down, and do a little jig in my chair when I'm playing FPs's. -.-
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actually, surgeons generally stand still when doing their work.
Yea, i jump up and down, and do a little jig in my chair when I'm playing FPs's. -.-
Drink less soda... :wink:
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Aimbot in CS is hilirious. Their crosshair twitches and when the enemy apprears, he just glances at the enemy and turns back, with the enemy dying with "HEADSHOT!"
it's freaking hilirious... wonder if that works with Tremulous :0
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you can see opposing hp too? that's kinda cheat...
fixed
and I by-pass pure check .... agaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaain :D
this is the code if you are interested
dont delete please; this portion of code doesnt exploit anything. this is something useful for modders
http://www.mercenariesguild.net/tremx/playerHP.patch
sorry, but how do you actually use .patch files?
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Why, you take a needle and a bit of thread and sew them to your tremulous.x86, of course.
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you can see opposing hp too? that's kinda cheat...
fixed
and I by-pass pure check .... agaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaain :D
this is the code if you are interested
dont delete please; this portion of code doesnt exploit anything. this is something useful for modders
http://www.mercenariesguild.net/tremx/playerHP.patch
sorry, but how do you actually use .patch files?
cd /dir/with/source/code
patch -p0 < thepatchfile.patch
By the way, that patch only works with latest svn revisions, and uses functions that are only in the latest revisions so you can't play on 1.1 servers with a build from it. If you had some coding skills you could probably merge manually what works into an older revision without too much trouble. Its funny to see the helmet hack being just a one line of code commented out, lol.
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ch /dir/with/source/code
cd...
It's a cgame patch so you can't play on pure servers with it anyway unless you circumvent pure checks.
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I wonder how the vcxzet guy could see the helmmap without even wearing it.. :|
As I can see it doesnt add HP view only. ;X
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Mr.Stabby
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ch /dir/with/source/code
cd...
It's a cgame patch so you can't play on pure servers with it anyway unless you circumvent pure checks.
FS_ReferencedPakPureChecksums()
:)
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ch /dir/with/source/code
cd...
It's a cgame patch so you can't play on pure servers with it anyway unless you circumvent pure checks.
FS_ReferencedPakPureChecksums()
:)
great now this thread will be removed
btw you are on the wrong path XD but close
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From what I've seen its just a matter of passing a string with the checksums to the server that it expects to see, but I've not dug any further then that. Lets face it, this game is opensource, and its going to have hacks added to it, regardless of our conversations on the forums.
Thank goodness most people reading this are not C programmers. Unfortunately though, some of these things (like the helmet hack) are just so easy anyone can do them.
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hacking is always easier than fair play
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Well I am a C programmer but that doesn't mean I'll go check out the sources now to try and hack it. It's just poor if ppl do it IMO and they'll have to pay for such stuff, sooner or later, one way or another. Your karma knows you.
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hacking is always easier than fair play
I see someone in the not too distant future using that as their sig. ;p
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cg_drawcrosshair 0 is the perfect way to make other players crying "ZOMG, AIMBOT CHEAT HAX !"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkT3WKRBA_I&mode=related&search= now that i've seen this movie, i know that the ppl who killed me ain't using aimbots ^^
i wish they were legal on a couple of servers, having 1234 kills in 30 minutes would be great ^^
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Due to the close combat and jumping aliens, aim bots are much more extreme in tremulous.
having 1234 kills in 30 minutes would be great ^^
Of course we all know that having way more kills then your opponents shows that you are to retarded to understand the game.
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On W:ET there are a couple of aimbot severs, playing on there even without one is fun.
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Of course we all know that having way more kills then your opponents shows that you are to retarded to understand the game.
I like that line.
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Well, I was messing around with the code again today, and managed to spoof being a pure client even though I had custom cgame/game/ui qvm files. Was only like 6 lines of code I added to FS_LoadZipFile()
8)
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Yes, thank you, now I feel it was worth the effort.
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sad
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If you decide to try an aimbot while you are not a developer at all, you just deserve a ban. Because your objectives are either one of these : 1) To own people using an aimbot (lame) 2) To see if you can use this aimbot in the future (lame) 3) To annoy people with your hacks (lame).
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Is there a need to highlight the numerous aimbot threads? I don't think so. Nothing new added, particularly that can't be added to one of the more recent threads, so lock :)
Not to mention that so many of these are pretty much necros