Tremulous Forum
General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Trauma on February 16, 2007, 09:46:05 pm
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Hola. I want to know if I will be able to run Tremulous on my new pc. It has windows vista home premium. Dont flame me for getting vista, either >:O.
Graphics Card (If it matters): 256MB NVIDIA GeForce 7500LE
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probably, if it runs on all other windows systems it'll go with vista (I think). oh, and you do know that halo2Vista is the only reason to get that op system, right?
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Dont know, I've heard people say that its hard to get it to run.
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Oh, believe me. When I bought this pc it didnt give me the option to get xp, I had to get vista.
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Sorry I have to.
Why the hell would get vista?
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As far as I know there are problems with OpenGL drivers for some gfx cards (don't know how about nVidia, but on the forum there are some posts about problems with ATI's OpenGL drivers for Vista). People advise to wait with vista till the situation with drivers for this windows will be better.
That's all I can say on the subiect as I don't use windows.
So maby just check it out yourself :wink:
BTW. Make sure that you have drivers from your card's vendor/manufacturer as the Microsoft's OpenGL drivers won't be enough (they are generic OpenGL 1.1 drivers)
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Sorry I have to.
Why the hell would get vista?
Oh, believe me. When I bought this pc it didnt give me the option to get xp, I had to get vista.
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Hola. I want to know if I will be able to run Tremulous on my new pc.
I have been running vista for a few months now. Here is what I had to do to get trem to work.
Add tremulous.exe to the DEP exception list in system properties: advanced tab: Data Execution Prevention
in the shortcut set the program to run in winxp sp2 compatibility mode and disable visual themes
I also turned off user account control in the security center because its annoying and I dont like how it virtualizes the program files directory.
Hope this helps
robug
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Add tremulous.exe to the DEP exception list in system properties: advanced tab: Data Execution Prevention
The backport client has a fix for the DEP issue.
http://trem.tjw.org/backport/
I'm interested to know if it works on Vista without making any other changes.
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Even if you won't be able to get Tremulous working in Vista because of no/buggy OpenGL support, Linux will quickly solve your little problem.
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lol, the irony.
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Even if you won't be able to get Tremulous working in Vista because of no/buggy OpenGL support, Linux will quickly solve your little problem.
hehe :D
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Probably you wont be able to run most of the games on vista.
What i read is, you cant downgrade to dx9 and have to use dx10, so any game that doesnt use dx10 wont probably work, due to also lacking opengl support.
Now also there is the issue of not having direct-sound anymore, so sound could be a problem even if you get it running.
Whyever one would get a new pc with vista?
You dont have to use vista with a new pc, just dont buy it in a supermarket.
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You dont have to use vista with a new pc, just dont buy it in a supermarket.
Actually, Windows EULA allows you to not accept it, delete Windows from your new computer, return the Windows CDs to the PC vendor and get a refund.
More at Linux.com (http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/01/03/227237)
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yea thats what i had to do
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I did not have a choice to get vista. So, let me get this straight. It IS possible to get tremulous to run with vista after changing a few things. I will NOT be able to play other games?
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What i read is, you cant downgrade to dx9 and have to use dx10, so any game that doesnt use dx10 wont probably work, due to also lacking opengl support.
Not even close to right. I don't have vista but i knw many people who do and they play a ton of dx9 games. Plus you need a dx9 card to run aero so you can definatly use dx9. I'm also pretty sure 8.1 also works.
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oh well thats a good point
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gasp, i hope that all those flames about vista are just a bit exacerated, cause i'm getting vista..btw, vista is a must if you want to be able to play future dx10 games, so it's not for halo2vista only ^^
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mahaha, vista ;) .. the OS that that tracks the users behavior and disables high quality output when it suspects you'r doing something you shouldn't do, like installing the wrong piece of software *g* .. but i feel sorry for you guys in advance so maybe you excuse my bashing ]:D
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vista aint that good, anyway i heard there is a service pack 3 coming out for xp :D
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Honestly, I could handle running Vista as my main OS under these conditions:
Wait for the Service pack that most corporations are waiting on, run it with the theme stripped down to that of XP, I'd disable all security warnings and have it all managed by an anti-virus program of my choice, I'd run OpenOffice or Abiword because I write to file types that anyone can freely modify (without problems, .doc's can get funky), I'd really really want OpenGL 2.1...so I'd have to suffer not having that, and then of course I'd need a good computer for it, when I run windows I mostly run Win2K because even though my computer is pretty good and I use it as a gaming rig, I still don't like my OS's required processes sucking up my resources.
I disapprove of the different classes/editions that MS has had, like XP had Home and Pro, I'd need to have the Vista that I have now, Ultimate, and it would have to be cheap to me even if I didn't have an MSDN account.
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Probably i will boycot dx10 since my peak gaming times are over, and i dont need games that look "omg real"
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the OS is giving you shit. stick with XP! vista is too slow for use on todays computers.wait 20 years or so
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the OS is giving you shit. stick with XP! vista is too slow for use on todays computers.wait 20 years or so
It's not that XP is slow on today's computers (don't assume that yours is "today's computer" just because it's from this decade, my box will OWN yours), Vista will run on newer boxes fine, it's just that there are so many annoyances built into it and zomg...wtf...old opengl.
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If all you want to do is play Tremulous, Linux or Windows 2000 will do the trick. If you absolutely have to use Windows, 2k is the most stable version, in my opinion. 98SE is too old, and XP uses more resources than 2k. XP is essentially 2k but with a different-looking UI, and System Restore(which doesn't work all that well, and takes up a lot of space).
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Windows has again created the perfect mainstream OS.
A mainstream OS consists of: Bling Bling colours, Transparencies, pseudo 3D, and inbuild-everything so the (mainstream)user doesnt need any other software.
For an advanced, or even moderate users those things arent really important.
What the user of today wants is: performance, an OS that takes up less Space and Ressources, easy configuration of devices and software.
I dont really understand why Vista is that popular, it eats up half of the performance (on almost every not high end machine) i want to have available for other applications, and truly disturbs me with his pseudo 3d look.
MS is slowly but surely moving in the direction of a Movie-OS, where the computer flashes small squares if it searches and does strange noises.
I work on XP, why? 1st, it came with my Laptop in 2003, since my Laptop is dead, there is no reason to still use it. Still i stripped XP to the look of standard Windows and deactivated manually processes that are completely unnecessary.
My box now boots in 30seconds and is stable, as long as i dont fuck with it too much.
An major upgrade to Vista would just give me things i dont want, higher usage of ressources, and therefore less ressources for other applications (i mostly dont talk about gaming).
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Q: "Will Tremulous 1.2 run in Vista x64"?
A: As good as any other vaporware!
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IDK if this will be your situation, but I installed Trem on a buddy's Vista laptop (actually, two friends' laptops), and it worked great. I just set its compatibility to XP SP2.
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I have to use Vista Home on my school-issued laptop, and I can still run Trem totally fine without having to do anything special at all. Well, that excludes how I get the game installed in the first place, because I don't have the admin priviliges with which to install software. So what I have to do is install it on my home computer and then drag the game's Program Files folder onto my laptop and run it out of that. This may account for it running different on my computer.
I do, however, have one weird problem with it that I didn't have on a Mac--there are some 2D graphics that are visible to me through walls, such as the bloodstains on Transit and the alien creep texture (which makes it pretty hard to mess with structures sometimes as a granger). Anyone know what could cause this?
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See if running in XP SP2 mode changes that... if not, IDK, that's weird. Oh, and I'd say grab the latest drivers for your vid card, but you're running on a limited account, so, I don't think that'd work for you.
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See if running in XP SP2 mode changes that... if not, IDK, that's weird. Oh, and I'd say grab the latest drivers for your vid card, but you're running on a limited account, so, I don't think that'd work for you.
It wouldn't, and I can't even begin to run Trem on my old home computer, heh. It's not a big deal, I've just always been curious about it.
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What you can do is find out which video card the laptop has, get the video card manufacturers latest drivers (or better yet, if its a dell, get dell's latest drivers) take them to the teacher/admin in charge with the laptop powered on and say "here's the vid card, here's the updated drivers recommended by the manufacturer, may I install them?" If they say yes, shift+right click > run as > Administrator and ask them to put in the password. Showing you've done your homework always makes people more likely to help you out ;)
Also, with Linux I've usually just downloaded the zip of trem and played from there. I'm pretty sure you could unzip it to a thumbdrive and play from there, though map loads may go a bit slow ;P
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Works perfectly on vista. Got a graphic card worse then the OP and it still runs fine.
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I had windows vista on my lappy. Tremulous ran, but for some reason the lighting was all screwed up, and most levels were too dark to play in. any attempt to adjust brightness resulted in an error. i upgraded to Ubuntu for free ;), and everything ran perfectly.
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Hola. I want to know if I will be able to run Tremulous on my new pc. It has windows vista [...]
No chance. Upgrade to Windows XP.
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Hola. I want to know if I will be able to run Tremulous on my new pc. It has windows vista [...]
No chance. Upgrade to Windows XP.
I repeat: I run tremulous on vista with no problems..
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Hola. I want to know if I will be able to run Tremulous on my new pc. It has windows vista [...]
No chance. Upgrade to Windows XP.
I repeat: I run tremulous on vista with no problems..
People don't actually listen when it comes to Microsoft things. They just go off of what they pick up from zealots on slashdot.
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See if ...
It wouldn't, ...
I did read this thread, don't worry. But if it is Vista and if it does not work out of the box, forget it. That's what I experienced.
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What a bunch of whiners! Just for the sake of this thread, I gave it a try. Ran great first try on Vista x64, 4 GB of RAM! No modifications necessary.
Linux guys will tell you any lies they can just to poison your head.
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Do you have the same hardware? Such things are heavily hardware-dependent, and you know how the situation is concerning drivers and Windows Vista. The reason why XP-stuff works out rather then Vista-stuff is the driver-situation. If the manufacturer's driver i is installed and it does not work then it simply does not work. And don't forget that a computer does not consist of a graphics card only, there is also a mainboard that can cause a great deal of trouble, even the CPU or the RAM banks matter, e.g. some older Matrox cards do not mix with AMD-CPUs etc. etc. Again: If it doesn't work, and the manufacturers driver etc. is installed, than it does not work. period. Use XP in that case with a nearly 100%-chance that everything's right.
PS: Please mind that altough I am a penguin, I didn't recommend Linux, I am far from being religious in that matter.
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PS: Please mind that altough I am a penguin, I didn't recommend Linux, I am far from being religious in that matter.
I respect that.
In my experience, after having installed Tremulous on about a dozen systems, all I can tell you is that every time I have had a problem, it has been under Windows XP. Windows Vista worked every time! (1 out of 1) And that was on x64! It's hard enough to get proper x64 support for any app. So I am inclined to believe that 32-bit Vista will have no problems at all.
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I do, however, have one weird problem with it that I didn't have on a Mac--there are some 2D graphics that are visible to me through walls, such as the bloodstains on Transit and the alien creep texture (which makes it pretty hard to mess with structures sometimes as a granger). Anyone know what could cause this?
I have this problem on my laptop running Vista right now. A fix would be great, it really is awful. As for the install, it went without a hitch and worked on the first try, barring this little bug :-\
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^first time i played on vista, this glitch included, i joined humans and they built their base in the bloodroom in transit, most of my navigation throughout our base was done via helmet -_-
(ie: fix needed, without requiring admin pass as the school tech guys aren't quite as willing to install new stuff for you as would be nice)
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Windows Vista == the DRM Antichrist