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Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: Fluxflashor on February 25, 2007, 01:02:49 am
Earlier today if yuo were on #tremradio you probably saw me ask DASPRiD for a 1 vs 1 match, where he accepted.

We played the matches through a little while ago and her is the results.

Match 1 ~ DASPRiD Humans
               Fluxflashor Aliens

               Fluxflashor Wins

Match 2 ~ DASPRiD Aliens
               Fluxflashor Humans
 
               DASPRiD Wins

So far the score is 1 = 1 and we will be playing the tie breaker very soon.

If you would like to watch a demo I recorded from my poinnt of view please download it from here:
http://fluxflashor.ifastnet.com/downloads/mevsdasprid.dm_69
[Rightclick--> Save as]

Good game DASPRiD
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: Mispeled on February 25, 2007, 04:00:40 am
What map did you play on?
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: Smokey on February 25, 2007, 04:12:24 am
Aliens almost always win 1v1, it means nothing.
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: Fluxflashor on February 25, 2007, 04:13:59 am
we played ATCS view the demo :P
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: Vindication? on February 25, 2007, 04:30:36 am
Quote from: "Smokey"
Aliens almost always win 1v1, it means nothing.


I love how people are still stupid enough to believe that a 1v1 actually means something.
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: Loke on February 25, 2007, 05:13:25 am
In a 1 v 1 / small game scenario...

especially on atcs, humans should be able to win it
realistically a dretch constantly trying to approach the human base (usually from the side as it starts off the weakest) will easily get rifled

yeh. but when some unexperienced player starts feeding / a dretch hangs around and gets to 3 evo at human s1
a dragoon pretty much wins it

edit:
comment:
that was a horrid 1v1. i've done and seen better, i'd say not even worthy of a forum post.
it's like watching 2 unexperienced players face off whereas - you could've lisked the unprotected spawn within the first 2-3 mins. +Dasprid could've done much better in grabbing a lasgun. + as a dretch / mara you could never even touch him, and it took you an awful amount of time to even hit him with the goon

->yeh and 2nd game he just waited for evo as you turreted your base, so he just trashed you with a dragoon, imo that could've been avoided if you avoided the dretch kill
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: Fluxflashor on February 25, 2007, 06:50:59 am
Ill admit my goon sucks needs a lot of work.

If you noticed though I build my base b4 rushing than I didnt even notice the drecth and he got a goon. [Way better goon than be i can tell you]
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: holyknight on February 25, 2007, 06:56:41 am
stop flaming, god you guys are such a little kids.
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: Radiohead on February 25, 2007, 06:57:16 am
1v1's are gay, Trem wasn't made for 1v1's.
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: Caveman on February 25, 2007, 04:16:00 pm
Quote from: "Radiohead"
1v1's are gay, Trem wasn't made for 1v1's.


+2
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: vcxzet on February 25, 2007, 04:36:06 pm
you all lost
aliens won the match! (ut2005 sexy announcer)
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: BeerBastard on February 26, 2007, 01:27:57 am
I play alot of 1v1 and it doesnt matter which team i am. I can still win. If its only 1 goon 1 shotgun can normally take it out if you dodge well.
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: temple on February 26, 2007, 01:42:09 am
1 vs 1 games favor humans imo.  Only a goon can realistically crash a human base and that with taking heavy damage.  A human player can just route around the dretch and pop acids with a rifle.  Also, I'll say a rifle man > dretch if he spots it.
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: _Equilibrium_ on February 26, 2007, 02:17:07 am
personally, i don't liek 1 vs 1 very much. i hate not havingany protection while i build, and no builder while i attack. teamwork i say.
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: BeerBastard on February 26, 2007, 04:02:20 am
You have to build pre goon, or a goon can take advantage of ur build timer.  I have watched humans put up a turret while im a goon so i hop on there reactor and kill it before they can buy a gun.
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: Caveman on February 26, 2007, 05:12:43 am
Quote from: "BeerBastard"
I play alot of 1v1 and it doesnt matter which team i am.


You Sir, are one short of a six pack.
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: Pacra on February 26, 2007, 05:13:58 am
ahahhaah oh 1v1s, you guys are hilarious.

....you are kidding, right?
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: n00b pl0x on February 26, 2007, 05:21:05 am
Quote from: "Caveman"
Quote from: "BeerBastard"
I play alot of 1v1 and it doesnt matter which team i am.


You Sir, are one short of a six pack.


Heinekin holiday six pack xD (I wonder if anyone remembers that commercial)
Title: Big Fish, Small Pond?
Post by: player1 on February 26, 2007, 05:23:30 am
Quote from: "Caveman"
Quote from: "BeerBastard"
I play alot of 1v1 and it doesnt matter which team i am.


You Sir, are one short of a six pack.


Actually, I can say I've been on a server with the BeerBastard and the Beer Bitch and some other members of the BB squad or whatever that clan/server is called. They look like they're playing in the same house. I'd say the dude probably plays a lot of 1v1. Maybe not against you, Caveman. As Wimpy would say, Let's you an' him fight.
Title: Re: Big Fish, Small Pond?
Post by: Caveman on February 26, 2007, 06:17:38 am
Quote from: "player1"

Actually, I can say I've been on a server with the BeerBastard and the Beer Bitch and some other members of the BB squad or whatever that clan/server is called. They look like they're playing in the same house. I'd say the dude probably plays a lot of 1v1. Maybe not against you, Caveman. As Wimpy would say, Let's you an' him fight.


You did not get anything I wrote...

a) Trem is a Team-game
b) being the only player on side and calling it a team is not very smart.
c) i guess you are missing more cans than can be found in a pack.
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: [A] on February 26, 2007, 07:50:52 am
Rofl, 1v1 game ...
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: Ceaser342 on February 26, 2007, 12:57:40 pm
If the alien is any kind of decent as a dretch his 1v1 is in the bag and it turns into a camp fest.
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: Stof on February 26, 2007, 02:11:45 pm
For 1v1 games, as an alien I would camp and make sure I do not die nor I lose the base until I've got enouth evo points for Dragoon. At that point the game is either won for the alien or in a complet deadlock :)
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: [A] on February 26, 2007, 02:35:31 pm
Btw, i have learned with an "official" cw that "camp" is an error of vocabulary, you should say "intelligent gaming for winning". So you never play with camper but with intelligent gamer.
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: BeerBastard on February 26, 2007, 03:16:58 pm
Me and my bro(beerbitch) live over 400miles away from each other.

Also a good human with a shotgun and light armor can take out a goon.

If you have ever played a clanwar and a 1 vs 1 you would understand the similairities.  

So basically your saying without some feeders on a team, its not balenced?  
or your saying a s1 human cant take out a goon.

What i am saying is if 2 people play 1v1 the better one wins from what iv seen.  And when did this become a flame bastard thread?

Tell me a better way to tell if someone is good, than watching them play someone one vs one.
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: Stof on February 26, 2007, 03:42:33 pm
I know that a lot of people hold the opinion that the game is fine and balanced and all that and that nothing should change. The devs do not agree too much with that since it seems quite a lot is changing after all.

But saying someone say with a straight face that the game is 1v1 with any stage 1 equipment balanced is rather agravating :evil:

How can you even suggest that stage 1 humans have a chance in 1v1 against a good goon player? Not a noob, a real goon player, one that can and will headchomp you 90% of the time when you are in range ( not that difficult ). No matter how good is the human player, unless he is hiding someplace the goon cannot get he's gonna get killed.

What next? Will someone say that any good human with larmor and rifle can own any Tyrant?
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: janev on February 26, 2007, 04:40:34 pm
Quote
Also a good human with a shotgun and light armor can take out a goon.

yes a goon not a good goon

Quote
your saying a s1 human cant take out a goon.
Yes

Quote
What i am saying is if 2 people play 1v1 the better one wins from what iv seen.
Nah the cheesier player wins.... The one who feeds less and uses cheesier tactics wins. for example the dretch that hides till it gets goon

Quote
Tell me a better way to tell if someone is good, than watching them play someone one vs one
Put them in a 12v12 stack their team with unnamed players and the opposite team with moderate to 1337 players and see how they do.
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: _Equilibrium_ on February 26, 2007, 08:23:39 pm
12 vs 12 may be overdoing it. i say a 4 vs 4 would be fine. I think my teamwork is pretty good, but being by myself makes me nervous.
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: holyknight on February 26, 2007, 11:34:15 pm
Quote from: "_Equilibrium_"
12 vs 12 may be overdoing it. i say a 4 vs 4 would be fine. I think my teamwork is pretty good, but being by myself makes me nervous.

+1
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: Arch_Enemy on February 27, 2007, 01:21:12 am
atcs... get a goon jump ontop of the reactor gg
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: Ceaser342 on February 27, 2007, 02:17:47 am
1v1s in any game built for teams are retarded.  S1 hummie attacks alien base.  Goon hops his RC.  He don't have a freaking clue.

OR Goon is in the front of the hummie base but he leaves through the hall and wipes out the goons base till the goon hears:

The Overmind Needs Spawns!
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: David on February 27, 2007, 03:09:33 am
Quote from: "Ceaser342"
1v1s in any game built for teams are retarded.  S1 hummie attacks alien base.  Goon hops his RC.  He don't have a freaking clue.

OR Goon is in the front of the hummie base but he leaves through the hall and wipes out the goons base till the goon hears:

The Overmind Needs Spawns!


Or as has been my experience, both happen simultaneously.
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: Stof on February 27, 2007, 10:42:31 am
And then the human is screwed.
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: NiTRoX on February 27, 2007, 04:33:56 pm
How to i view demo files? :/
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: BeerBastard on February 28, 2007, 12:04:25 am
put the demo in your tremulous/base/demos folder and open console in trem main menu than type.    /demo nameofdemo

If you have tjw client it saves demos to
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Local Settings\Application Data\Tremulous/base/demos

Not sure which you put them in to play them, I think with tjw client u use the documents and settings one.  Also you can change this i believe its a variable.

Note-You have to enable hidden folders to find the 2nd. To do so in windows
open my computer go to tools, and click folder options, Its under the view tab.
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: NiTRoX on February 28, 2007, 05:56:12 pm
Ok thank you
Title: 1 vs 1 DASPRiD vs Fluxflashor
Post by: Wielkas Kutas on March 02, 2007, 07:20:35 pm
1vs1 aren't that bad... sometimes over LAN I play with a friend at school... Neither have an advantage :roll:
Title: oh, you mean this
Post by: player1 on March 04, 2007, 03:35:49 am
Quote from: "Caveman"
Quote from: "Radiohead"
1v1's are gay, Trem wasn't made for 1v1's.


+2


Acknowledged.