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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Gah on March 04, 2007, 03:55:36 am

Title: Wallhack
Post by: Gah on March 04, 2007, 03:55:36 am
Hi,

some of you might not be aware that there are certain wallhacks for tremulous,

a certain player in the tremcommunity has been passing them around, such as player is

High Tech

though i admithe gave it to me and i used it for a while,

i can atest to it and that it is wrong,


i hope that you guys will start and i will be willing to help to make better "anti" cheat updates for trem


 i will stop using it, and tell other people i know to stop


i will not name anyone else


i remain confident that only me and people from the clan (CBS) have other copys of this "wallhacker"

i will delete my copy and hope other ppl do to,


i dont want to play a game where people cheat,

i am sorry if i have used this on against you guys,


-Gah[KILLAZ+]-



if developer of the game would like a copy of it for intruction purposes please email me at mihai[.]gheorghe[at]hotmail.com

just put in the "." [.] and @ where [at] is

cheers
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Odin on March 04, 2007, 04:02:03 am
I'd like to see a screenshot of it in action. I don't think it'd be anything other than a modified Quake 3 hack.

I can't believe HighTech would do that. I am thankful I left KillaZ when I did.
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Gah on March 04, 2007, 04:10:11 am
(http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1448/wallhackzo6.jpg)



cheers
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Smokey on March 04, 2007, 04:18:39 am
he means:
(http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1448/wallhackzo6.jpg)

Gahs' an idiot. Also, he fixed it. jerk.
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Gah on March 04, 2007, 04:23:15 am
hah what are you smoking smokey...
oh wait.
 :advmarauder:
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Pacra on March 04, 2007, 05:06:33 am
I don't really know what's going on here, so I'll just post a picture of Haggar pile-driving a shark.

(http://i4.tinypic.com/3yzo02b.jpg)

Cheers!
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Caveman on March 04, 2007, 05:23:07 am
roflol, what else is new?
Title: Wallhack
Post by: holyknight on March 04, 2007, 09:12:04 am
lol these people have no life at all...
Title: Wallhack
Post by: A_Total_noob on March 04, 2007, 09:50:23 am
Quote from: "Smokey"


Gahs' an idiot. Also, he fixed it. jerk.


Why do you feel inclined to be rude ?
Is there some part of you which really cant resist being a arsehole ?

I dont understand some of the people on here-
its as though every new member NEEDS to be flamed.  :-?
Title: Wallhack
Post by: vcxzet on March 04, 2007, 09:54:43 am
here DL link to wallhack www.google.com
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Lava Croft on March 04, 2007, 10:41:00 am
Didn't Killaz clan win that TremLeague nonsense? Doesn't this question the legality of that 'victory'?
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Bajsefar on March 04, 2007, 12:26:56 pm
Er, this looks more like a wierd bug to me.
You sure someone didnt just screw with atcs and post it?
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Caveman on March 04, 2007, 12:52:25 pm
That one is not photoshoped. It is the wallhack made by an european that tried his shit on one of the wraths, there is nothing one can do about it, short of changing the engine. As long as all data is transmitted to the client and the client makes the decision on what is visible and what is not, there is NO way to circumvent or detect this by means of programming.
Only by demoing the suspect and its target can it be seen :)
Title: Wallhack
Post by: vcxzet on March 04, 2007, 01:45:35 pm
Quote from: "Caveman"
That one is not photoshoped. It is the wallhack made by an european that tried his shit on one of the wraths, there is nothing one can do about it, short of changing the engine. As long as all data is transmitted to the client and the client makes the decision on what is visible and what is not, there is NO way to circumvent or detect this by means of programming.
Only by demoing the suspect and its target can it be seen :)

open gl wall hacks made for q3 works for tremulous
so no need to program anything
great if they can play with wallhack
last time I tried it was unplayable with wallhack
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Gah on March 04, 2007, 04:03:39 pm
i quite disagree, after a few minutes of playing it,


you can get used to it



lava croft....

i am positive that no one in KillaZ was using this during trem league

ive only heard the CBS leader(high tech) mention it the past month,

people who played in tremleague for killaz were repectable players,

warlock being one, etc.


i havent it being mention when high was KillaZ
Title: Wallhack
Post by: [Kcorp]Noobius on March 04, 2007, 05:38:42 pm
ai dreaq romanii astia  :roll:
Title: Wallhack
Post by: [Doh] on March 04, 2007, 05:45:04 pm
Quote from: "A_Total_noob"
Quote from: "Smokey"


Gahs' an idiot. Also, he fixed it. jerk.


Why do you feel inclined to be rude ?
Is there some part of you which really cant resist being a arsehole ?

I dont understand some of the people on here-
its as though every new member NEEDS to be flamed.  :-?


Hm, you may of had the wrong impression.  Smokey and Gah are close buddies, as are all the Zilla clan members with Gah.  He's often on our teamspeak so it was only a joke.
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Gah on March 04, 2007, 07:49:55 pm
Quote from: "[Kcorp
Noobius"]ai dreaq romanii astia  :roll:



haha


adracu tzigani
Title: Wallhack
Post by: ^Black on March 04, 2007, 08:37:05 pm
If this is true I am embarrased for ever being a member of killaz and I assure you I have never used this hack.
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Mantra on March 04, 2007, 09:19:46 pm
I can assure all of you that zilla does not, and never will use such a hack.

Could an admin do something about that account? It was clearly made to release a hack/possibly send viruses to people.

Or you can give all of us his ip, so we can find out what his phone number is and keep calling him all day.

Regardless, I urge people not to download the link handed down previously, it can possibly contain viruses and/or contain pornographic pictures.
Title: Re: Gah got the wall hack from this website
Post by: Smokey on March 04, 2007, 09:22:11 pm
Quote from: "wallhack"
badurllol

Note: Most of the Zilla clan uses it, including gah.

 -Smokey

Good effort high, Just so you know, me AND jabberwock condumped that whole convo, blatantly trying to shift it on me, too bad I run trem nativly in linux.

As for my clan using it,  blatant lie also, considering the way hightech responded to my accusations.

Good luck lying out of this, high.

For those who want it, raw condump: http://zilla-clan.net/cbswall.txt
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Relay on March 04, 2007, 09:22:23 pm
The post posted by wallhack contains a link to a file that is a virus. Do not download it.
Title: The Wallhack is not a virus.
Post by: wallhack on March 04, 2007, 09:23:34 pm
They are just trying to stop you from using the wallhack is all..
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Smokey on March 04, 2007, 09:41:11 pm
Hehe, proof its high:

Hightechs Tremleague IP: 71.101.107.201
Info:
Quote
IP address:                     71.101.107.201
Reverse DNS:                    pool-71-101-107-201.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net.
Reverse DNS authenticity:       [Verified]
ASN:                            19262
ASN Name:                       VZGNI-TRANSIT
IP range connectivity:          0
Registrar (per ASN):            ARIN
Country (per IP registrar):     US [United States]
Country Currency:               USD [United States Dollars]
Country IP Range:               71.64.0.0 to 71.127.255.255
Country fraud profile:          Normal
City (per outside source):      Bradenton, Florida
Country (per outside source):   US [United States]


Posters IP: 71.122.167.94
Info:
Quote
IP address:                     71.122.167.94
Reverse DNS:                    pool-71-122-167-94.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net.
Reverse DNS authenticity:       [Verified]
ASN:                            19262
ASN Name:                       VZGNI-TRANSIT
IP range connectivity:          0
Registrar (per ASN):            ARIN
Country (per IP registrar):     US [United States]
Country Currency:               USD [United States Dollars]
Country IP Range:               71.64.0.0 to 71.127.255.255
Country fraud profile:          Normal
City (per outside source):      Bradenton, Florida
Country (per outside source):   US [United States]


Evident match.
Title: okay
Post by: wallhack on March 04, 2007, 10:02:06 pm
Well, Smokey only using linux isnt true..
Here is why

(http://www.yourowned.net/urmuther.jpg)[/img]
Title: Re: okay
Post by: Smokey on March 04, 2007, 10:11:07 pm
Quote from: "wallhack"
Well, Smokey only using linux isnt true..
Here is why

(http://www.yourowned.net/urmuther.jpg)[/img]

Anyone can fake my name, Paste a screenshot of my desktop to proove you're me, which its evident you're not.
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Raytray on March 04, 2007, 10:20:02 pm
For one thing, there is no spectators that supposedly took that screen cap.  Smokey will rarely excuse me,  will NEVER go to a server where has 300 ping especially if it was empty.  
Oh and smokey, last I saw from other screen caps from him has a different HUD.
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Smokey on March 04, 2007, 10:23:33 pm
Quote from: "raytray25"
For one thing, there is no spectators that supposedly took that screen cap.  Smokey will rarely excuse me,  will NEVER go to a server where has 300 ping especially if it was empty.  
Oh and smokey, last I saw from other screen caps from him has a different HUD.

Ray FTW.
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Raytray on March 04, 2007, 10:53:30 pm
Just to let you know. :) I've clicked the link about twenty times in the past ten seconds to see wtf you're on.  Anyway I'm using linux, and I'm using.. wait wait.. Oh right, "Konqueror" Not "Opera" So do tell me how you sprouted a 100% as a number.
Title: Re: Smokey
Post by: Smokey on March 04, 2007, 11:00:49 pm
Quote from: "wallhack"
When smokey stops being a douche, I will stop handing out the wallhack like candy.




smoke is the most popular visitor
Most popular browser among site visitors:    Opera/9.10 (100.00%)
Visitors' most common screen resolution:    1024x768 (100.00%)

Now dont go telling me you dont use opera, mr linux

I use firefox, idiot.
Title: Re: okay
Post by: TinMan on March 04, 2007, 11:42:41 pm
Quote from: "wallhack"
Well, Smokey only using linux isnt true..
Here is why

(http://www.yourowned.net/urmuther.jpg)


I'm sorry, are you an idiot to the point of not knowing that you can create wallhacks for linux too?
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Gah on March 05, 2007, 12:07:41 am
Quote from: "^Black"
If this is true I am embarrased for ever being a member of killaz and I assure you I have never used this hack.



dont flame killaz,

it was high did this after he left killaz when i took over, he did it on his on clan


everyone makes mistakes


people are here to forgive,


forgive him,

truly he probably feels bad about it,


dont flame killaz in the past for what happened recently

I ASSURE everyone this only happened to my knowledge in the past few weeks,

lets all stop argueing who is to blame, to much fuel has been thrown in the fire,


lets just get together and try and stop furthering of hacks in trem, which give lpayers unfair advantages,


Admin,


please lock this topic


i dont want a farking flame war starting



i also dont want to lower the rep of High any more than it is,


i wanted to stop this before it go out of hand,


just forget this happened, and try to stop it


-Gah-



dont try and contact me on getting a copy of it, i will report you to admins
Title: Wallhack
Post by: vcxzet on March 05, 2007, 12:35:01 am
Quote from: "Gah"
Quote from: "^Black"
If this is true I am embarrased for ever being a member of killaz and I assure you I have never used this hack.



dont flame killaz,

it was high did this after he left killaz when i took over, he did it on his on clan


everyone makes mistakes


people are here to forgive,


forgive him,

truly he probably feels bad about it,


dont flame killaz in the past for what happened recently

I ASSURE everyone this only happened to my knowledge in the past few weeks,

lets all stop argueing who is to blame, to much fuel has been thrown in the fire,


lets just get together and try and stop furthering of hacks in trem, which give lpayers unfair advantages,


Admin,


please lock this topic


i dont want a farking flame war starting



i also dont want to lower the rep of High any more than it is,


i wanted to stop this before it go out of hand,


just forget this happened, and try to stop it


-Gah-



dont try and contact me on getting a copy of it, i will report you to admins

I NEED IT
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Yahoo on March 05, 2007, 01:09:44 am
Quote from: "Gah"
dont try and contact me on getting a copy of it, i will report you to admins

you are one badass motherfucker. forum goers dont mess with Gah, he'll tell the admins.  :O
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Gah on March 05, 2007, 01:39:54 am
haha yahoo

dont make me tell them about ur hax that you use  :O  8)  :o  :D
Title: Wallhack
Post by: DjSonik on March 05, 2007, 03:04:08 am
Well, I do NOT use any Tremulous cheats/hacks/aimbots of any kind. I don't know if this is true or not, but I'll have to ask HighTech about it. (If it is proven completely true I will consider quitting CBS, honestly, but I don't want to be known as a clan hopper either. Its a complicated situation.)
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Vindication? on March 05, 2007, 05:49:49 am
Quote from: "DjSonik"
Well, I do NOT use any Tremulous cheats/hacks/aimbots of any kind. I don't know if this is true or not, but I'll have to ask HighTech about it. (If it is proven completely true I will consider quitting CBS, honestly, but I don't want to be known as a clan hopper either. Its a complicated situation.)


Just quit.

HighTech is a waste of perfectly good air.
Title: Wallhack
Post by: vcxzet on March 05, 2007, 08:53:47 am
damn no one sent me any aimbots
I needed it for a my bot
Title: Wallhack
Post by: ^Black on March 05, 2007, 11:07:46 am
Yeah, why would you be in CBS? What good is a leader who dumps his old clan and just makes a new one...

Gah-you're an ass.
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Gah on March 05, 2007, 12:11:15 pm
Quote from: "^Black"
Gah-you're an ass.


hmm


you can say that black,

sure you can say i threw high "under the bus"


but some people have moral values,

i detest cheating and lieing, so the fact is iwanted to put this all to an end,


im not gonna talk about it this anymore if any1 asks me on trem

-Gah-
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Relay on March 05, 2007, 12:16:53 pm
Why do you double space all your sentences? :/
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Odin on March 05, 2007, 12:22:44 pm
Seriously

why

do


you

talk like

this

all the time

it

's

really annoy
ing

i need a

medic
Title: Wallhack
Post by: A_Total_noob on March 05, 2007, 05:00:21 pm
Quote from: "[Doh
"]
Quote from: "A_Total_noob"
Quote from: "Smokey"


Gahs' an idiot. Also, he fixed it. jerk.


Why do you feel inclined to be rude ?
Is there some part of you which really cant resist being a arsehole ?

I dont understand some of the people on here-
its as though every new member NEEDS to be flamed.  :-?


Hm, you may of had the wrong impression.  Smokey and Gah are close buddies, as are all the Zilla clan members with Gah.  He's often on our teamspeak so it was only a joke.


Oops. Now I feel like quite the fool  :oops:

My apologies Smokey.
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Smokey on March 05, 2007, 08:01:19 pm
Quote from: "DjSonik"
Well, I do NOT use any Tremulous cheats/hacks/aimbots of any kind. I don't know if this is true or not, but I'll have to ask HighTech about it. (If it is proven completely true I will consider quitting CBS, honestly, but I don't want to be known as a clan hopper either. Its a complicated situation.)


How is there not enough evidence that it is hightech spamming the forums with the wallhack url? Isn't that distributing cheats? Any forum mod can agree, my IP is NOT based in Florida, but Rochester, NY.

Among that, numerous other faults lie in hightechs attempts to lay any blame for cheating on me, just because I confront him and his clan, does not mean I also cheat.

Jabberwock can provide a condump of my and hightechs conversation also, I confronted him, and then hightech suddenly accuses me. He didn't know what to say when I told him I was using linux. Then he posts false screenshots, which are blatantly forged, I don't play on servers where i ping over 100, and I use a modified hud.

Good try hightech.
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Raytray on March 05, 2007, 08:11:58 pm
Oh sure. :p Don't give me any credit.

Anyway, Sonik, drop all clans!  Then you won't be a clan hopper. :p
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Smokey on March 05, 2007, 08:19:46 pm
Quote from: "raytray25"
Oh sure. :p Don't give me any credit.

Anyway, Sonik, drop all clans!  Then you won't be a clan hopper. :p

I give credit in other ways ;)
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Gah on March 05, 2007, 10:13:04 pm
you know what, i dont care who you are, i dont care if ur smokey or high,
just stop spamming the forums,
i frankly dont care, but other people find it annoying, so please stop, your only gonna hurt urself in the long run more,

-gah-
Title: Wallhack
Post by: DjSonik on March 05, 2007, 10:57:07 pm
Well, I quit CBS, but I hope HighTech doesn't go all Rob on us.
Heh, Smokey, always the center of attention. ;)
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Ranger on March 06, 2007, 01:56:09 pm
CRAWLLLLLING IN MY SKIN[/size]
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Seffylight on March 06, 2007, 04:11:58 pm
Quote from: "Ranger"
CRAWLLLLLING IN MY SKIN[/size]


Lmao. Best post in this whole thread.
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Vindication? on March 06, 2007, 09:41:08 pm
Quote from: "Ranger"
CRAWLLLLLING IN MY SKIN[/size]


Epic win.  You got to it a little before I did, so now I'm sad :P
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Matt2k10 on March 07, 2007, 03:36:10 am
high tech u chiter
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Vindication? on March 07, 2007, 04:37:27 am
Quote from: "Matt2k10"
high tech u chiter


arrrrrrrrg
Title: Re: okay
Post by: Dracone on March 08, 2007, 12:06:07 pm
Quote from: "wallhack"
Well, Smokey only using linux isnt true..
Here is why

(http://www.yourowned.net/urmuther.jpg)[/img]


Noclip, perhaps?
Title: Re: okay
Post by: David on March 08, 2007, 01:04:41 pm
Quote from: "Dracone"
Quote from: "wallhack"
Well, Smokey only using linux isnt true..
Here is why
IMG gooes here....


Noclip, perhaps?


How can noclip do that?
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Seffylight on March 08, 2007, 03:36:34 pm
No, that screenshot is obviously the wallhack being discussed here, but it's also obviously not Smokey.
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Nux on March 09, 2007, 04:47:09 am
Knowing that some helmetless human is a few rooms away from your dretch in some direction does give them somewhat of an advantage. I question, though, how easily said dretch would get to the human when it can't tell between walls and passageways.

I'm not defending this things, I'm just bringing up the point of view that it might not actually help a player all that much and could hinder the performance of a more experienced player.
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Mantra on March 09, 2007, 05:47:16 am
Most of us have played the default maps SO MUCH we know them by heart, and after a few games where you test the wall hack, you'll probably have no problem remembering where the hallways are. Let me tell you one thing, a dretch poping out of the side wall and biting you in the head is NOT FUNNY.

Also, wall hacks can be used to shoot through walls, so an md camping under his reactor inside teh floor, can shoot through most of the level in some maps, not too funny when you get shot inside your base or your eggs get taken out by a saw appearing through a wall and other things.
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Nux on March 09, 2007, 07:12:18 am
I know the levels generally, but I'm not sure if I'd be at my best with invisible walls and such.. it's little details in the surfaces that would take the edge off of my playing. I like to be able to see parts of the walls that I'm going to use to evade shots.

As for shooting through walls, that is really bad. Can you confirm that this hack has that feature?
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Stof on March 09, 2007, 02:52:34 pm
Quote from: "Mantra"
Also, wall hacks can be used to shoot through walls, so an md camping under his reactor inside teh floor, can shoot through most of the level in some maps, not too funny when you get shot inside your base or your eggs get taken out by a saw appearing through a wall and other things.

Wow, this is so wrong. Would you care to show us in which svn revision did bullets piercing through walls got implemented please?
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Mantra on March 09, 2007, 03:37:17 pm
All the wall hacks I've seen allowed the user to shoot through walls while he was within the wall. Thats also the main point of the hack, enable you to shoot your opponent while he can't shoot you.

I might be wrong, but I'm speaking about the hacks for other games I've seen(Yet to see this one in action)
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Ranger on March 09, 2007, 03:48:21 pm
There are 4 kinds of wallhacking:

*Wallhack: Basically allows you to see through walls. Really only good  for games where grenades can kill with splash damage.

*Wallshot: What Mantra is talking about

*Wallghosting: Basically a toned down noclip. Player can still shoot and be shot at.

*Noclip: You know what this does.
Title: speaking of ghosting and noclip
Post by: player1 on March 09, 2007, 06:31:23 pm
So, either I had real weird lag, or I finally saw someone using some kind of "invisibility" on SST (I think it was SST, I was hopping around some) yesterday. I saw the tag "Unnamed Player" on my HUD, but no player. This was on Karith (I'm pretty sure), in the alien base, right by the overhead door in the egg room. It could have been because there were 45+ people on, and I was right near a brush. There was one laggy battle, where one outdoor jettard was keeping about 8 to 12 aliens busy neither attacking or really defending. It was S3, so the battle near the human base had plenty of lucispam, but mostly it was Tyrants desperately vying for space, backing around corners.

The same thing happened again in a stairwell, but with an actual name with colored letters, etc. Again, no player to be seen. Both times I was looking in front of me, not towards any good hidey places. Weird. Anyway, I couldn't tell if it actually was a "cloaked" player, or just lagginess. Both times I was nowhere near a battle, and had pretty high framerate (my ping is usually around 45-78 before I connect). Anybody else seen any "ghosts"?
Title: Wallhack
Post by: techhead on March 09, 2007, 08:51:23 pm
Actually, the ability to see the location and type of enemy through a wall allows for one to get a distinct strategic advantage, surprise!!!!
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Patriotpie on March 10, 2007, 03:09:20 pm
This is a shit wallhack that is an unmodified version of a q3 cheat. Becuase they share (almost) the same engine, players can use junk like this, with little to no modification. Anti-hack software like PB or something similar to VAC implemented in version 1.2.0 would be a welcome surprise.


Also, the ONLY wallHACK is the kind that allows you to see through walls. Noclip is a command available only though devmapping, or by starting the game with a special set of cvars and turning on sv_cheats. Wall"ghosting" is a made up term. and I don't know WTF Mantra is talking about. I've played CoD, CoD2, the original UT, UT2004, and Runescape, so I'm pretty sure I've seen most of the hacks there are.
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Angelwinged Devil on March 12, 2007, 11:30:30 am
nice confession, you're forgiven. And thanks for the info now it's easier to spot wallhackers :D, I'm thinking of something... are you able to turn it on and off during gameplay?
Title: Wallhack
Post by: Ranger on March 12, 2007, 02:24:47 pm
Actually, in CS it was possible to activate noclip on servers with cheats off. Pretty sure it's not possible on trem, but figured it was worth mentioning.