Tremulous Forum
General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Gah on March 04, 2007, 03:55:36 am
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Hi,
some of you might not be aware that there are certain wallhacks for tremulous,
a certain player in the tremcommunity has been passing them around, such as player is
High Tech
though i admithe gave it to me and i used it for a while,
i can atest to it and that it is wrong,
i hope that you guys will start and i will be willing to help to make better "anti" cheat updates for trem
i will stop using it, and tell other people i know to stop
i will not name anyone else
i remain confident that only me and people from the clan (CBS) have other copys of this "wallhacker"
i will delete my copy and hope other ppl do to,
i dont want to play a game where people cheat,
i am sorry if i have used this on against you guys,
-Gah[KILLAZ+]-
if developer of the game would like a copy of it for intruction purposes please email me at mihai[.]gheorghe[at]hotmail.com
just put in the "." [.] and @ where [at] is
cheers
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I'd like to see a screenshot of it in action. I don't think it'd be anything other than a modified Quake 3 hack.
I can't believe HighTech would do that. I am thankful I left KillaZ when I did.
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(http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1448/wallhackzo6.jpg)
cheers
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he means:
(http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1448/wallhackzo6.jpg)
Gahs' an idiot. Also, he fixed it. jerk.
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hah what are you smoking smokey...
oh wait.
:advmarauder:
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I don't really know what's going on here, so I'll just post a picture of Haggar pile-driving a shark.
(http://i4.tinypic.com/3yzo02b.jpg)
Cheers!
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roflol, what else is new?
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lol these people have no life at all...
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Gahs' an idiot. Also, he fixed it. jerk.
Why do you feel inclined to be rude ?
Is there some part of you which really cant resist being a arsehole ?
I dont understand some of the people on here-
its as though every new member NEEDS to be flamed. :-?
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here DL link to wallhack www.google.com
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Didn't Killaz clan win that TremLeague nonsense? Doesn't this question the legality of that 'victory'?
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Er, this looks more like a wierd bug to me.
You sure someone didnt just screw with atcs and post it?
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That one is not photoshoped. It is the wallhack made by an european that tried his shit on one of the wraths, there is nothing one can do about it, short of changing the engine. As long as all data is transmitted to the client and the client makes the decision on what is visible and what is not, there is NO way to circumvent or detect this by means of programming.
Only by demoing the suspect and its target can it be seen :)
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That one is not photoshoped. It is the wallhack made by an european that tried his shit on one of the wraths, there is nothing one can do about it, short of changing the engine. As long as all data is transmitted to the client and the client makes the decision on what is visible and what is not, there is NO way to circumvent or detect this by means of programming.
Only by demoing the suspect and its target can it be seen :)
open gl wall hacks made for q3 works for tremulous
so no need to program anything
great if they can play with wallhack
last time I tried it was unplayable with wallhack
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i quite disagree, after a few minutes of playing it,
you can get used to it
lava croft....
i am positive that no one in KillaZ was using this during trem league
ive only heard the CBS leader(high tech) mention it the past month,
people who played in tremleague for killaz were repectable players,
warlock being one, etc.
i havent it being mention when high was KillaZ
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ai dreaq romanii astia :roll:
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Gahs' an idiot. Also, he fixed it. jerk.
Why do you feel inclined to be rude ?
Is there some part of you which really cant resist being a arsehole ?
I dont understand some of the people on here-
its as though every new member NEEDS to be flamed. :-?
Hm, you may of had the wrong impression. Smokey and Gah are close buddies, as are all the Zilla clan members with Gah. He's often on our teamspeak so it was only a joke.
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Noobius"]ai dreaq romanii astia :roll:
haha
adracu tzigani
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If this is true I am embarrased for ever being a member of killaz and I assure you I have never used this hack.
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I can assure all of you that zilla does not, and never will use such a hack.
Could an admin do something about that account? It was clearly made to release a hack/possibly send viruses to people.
Or you can give all of us his ip, so we can find out what his phone number is and keep calling him all day.
Regardless, I urge people not to download the link handed down previously, it can possibly contain viruses and/or contain pornographic pictures.
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badurllol
Note: Most of the Zilla clan uses it, including gah.
-Smokey
Good effort high, Just so you know, me AND jabberwock condumped that whole convo, blatantly trying to shift it on me, too bad I run trem nativly in linux.
As for my clan using it, blatant lie also, considering the way hightech responded to my accusations.
Good luck lying out of this, high.
For those who want it, raw condump: http://zilla-clan.net/cbswall.txt
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The post posted by wallhack contains a link to a file that is a virus. Do not download it.
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They are just trying to stop you from using the wallhack is all..
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Hehe, proof its high:
Hightechs Tremleague IP: 71.101.107.201
Info:
IP address: 71.101.107.201
Reverse DNS: pool-71-101-107-201.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net.
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Verified]
ASN: 19262
ASN Name: VZGNI-TRANSIT
IP range connectivity: 0
Registrar (per ASN): ARIN
Country (per IP registrar): US [United States]
Country Currency: USD [United States Dollars]
Country IP Range: 71.64.0.0 to 71.127.255.255
Country fraud profile: Normal
City (per outside source): Bradenton, Florida
Country (per outside source): US [United States]
Posters IP: 71.122.167.94
Info:
IP address: 71.122.167.94
Reverse DNS: pool-71-122-167-94.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net.
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Verified]
ASN: 19262
ASN Name: VZGNI-TRANSIT
IP range connectivity: 0
Registrar (per ASN): ARIN
Country (per IP registrar): US [United States]
Country Currency: USD [United States Dollars]
Country IP Range: 71.64.0.0 to 71.127.255.255
Country fraud profile: Normal
City (per outside source): Bradenton, Florida
Country (per outside source): US [United States]
Evident match.
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Well, Smokey only using linux isnt true..
Here is why
(http://www.yourowned.net/urmuther.jpg)[/img]
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Well, Smokey only using linux isnt true..
Here is why
(http://www.yourowned.net/urmuther.jpg)[/img]
Anyone can fake my name, Paste a screenshot of my desktop to proove you're me, which its evident you're not.
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For one thing, there is no spectators that supposedly took that screen cap. Smokey will rarely excuse me, will NEVER go to a server where has 300 ping especially if it was empty.
Oh and smokey, last I saw from other screen caps from him has a different HUD.
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For one thing, there is no spectators that supposedly took that screen cap. Smokey will rarely excuse me, will NEVER go to a server where has 300 ping especially if it was empty.
Oh and smokey, last I saw from other screen caps from him has a different HUD.
Ray FTW.
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Just to let you know. :) I've clicked the link about twenty times in the past ten seconds to see wtf you're on. Anyway I'm using linux, and I'm using.. wait wait.. Oh right, "Konqueror" Not "Opera" So do tell me how you sprouted a 100% as a number.
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When smokey stops being a douche, I will stop handing out the wallhack like candy.
smoke is the most popular visitor
Most popular browser among site visitors: Opera/9.10 (100.00%)
Visitors' most common screen resolution: 1024x768 (100.00%)
Now dont go telling me you dont use opera, mr linux
I use firefox, idiot.
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Well, Smokey only using linux isnt true..
Here is why
(http://www.yourowned.net/urmuther.jpg)
I'm sorry, are you an idiot to the point of not knowing that you can create wallhacks for linux too?
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If this is true I am embarrased for ever being a member of killaz and I assure you I have never used this hack.
dont flame killaz,
it was high did this after he left killaz when i took over, he did it on his on clan
everyone makes mistakes
people are here to forgive,
forgive him,
truly he probably feels bad about it,
dont flame killaz in the past for what happened recently
I ASSURE everyone this only happened to my knowledge in the past few weeks,
lets all stop argueing who is to blame, to much fuel has been thrown in the fire,
lets just get together and try and stop furthering of hacks in trem, which give lpayers unfair advantages,
Admin,
please lock this topic
i dont want a farking flame war starting
i also dont want to lower the rep of High any more than it is,
i wanted to stop this before it go out of hand,
just forget this happened, and try to stop it
-Gah-
dont try and contact me on getting a copy of it, i will report you to admins
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If this is true I am embarrased for ever being a member of killaz and I assure you I have never used this hack.
dont flame killaz,
it was high did this after he left killaz when i took over, he did it on his on clan
everyone makes mistakes
people are here to forgive,
forgive him,
truly he probably feels bad about it,
dont flame killaz in the past for what happened recently
I ASSURE everyone this only happened to my knowledge in the past few weeks,
lets all stop argueing who is to blame, to much fuel has been thrown in the fire,
lets just get together and try and stop furthering of hacks in trem, which give lpayers unfair advantages,
Admin,
please lock this topic
i dont want a farking flame war starting
i also dont want to lower the rep of High any more than it is,
i wanted to stop this before it go out of hand,
just forget this happened, and try to stop it
-Gah-
dont try and contact me on getting a copy of it, i will report you to admins
I NEED IT
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dont try and contact me on getting a copy of it, i will report you to admins
you are one badass motherfucker. forum goers dont mess with Gah, he'll tell the admins. :O
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haha yahoo
dont make me tell them about ur hax that you use :O 8) :o :D
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Well, I do NOT use any Tremulous cheats/hacks/aimbots of any kind. I don't know if this is true or not, but I'll have to ask HighTech about it. (If it is proven completely true I will consider quitting CBS, honestly, but I don't want to be known as a clan hopper either. Its a complicated situation.)
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Well, I do NOT use any Tremulous cheats/hacks/aimbots of any kind. I don't know if this is true or not, but I'll have to ask HighTech about it. (If it is proven completely true I will consider quitting CBS, honestly, but I don't want to be known as a clan hopper either. Its a complicated situation.)
Just quit.
HighTech is a waste of perfectly good air.
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damn no one sent me any aimbots
I needed it for a my bot
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Yeah, why would you be in CBS? What good is a leader who dumps his old clan and just makes a new one...
Gah-you're an ass.
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Gah-you're an ass.
hmm
you can say that black,
sure you can say i threw high "under the bus"
but some people have moral values,
i detest cheating and lieing, so the fact is iwanted to put this all to an end,
im not gonna talk about it this anymore if any1 asks me on trem
-Gah-
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Why do you double space all your sentences? :/
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Seriously
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i need a
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Gahs' an idiot. Also, he fixed it. jerk.
Why do you feel inclined to be rude ?
Is there some part of you which really cant resist being a arsehole ?
I dont understand some of the people on here-
its as though every new member NEEDS to be flamed. :-?
Hm, you may of had the wrong impression. Smokey and Gah are close buddies, as are all the Zilla clan members with Gah. He's often on our teamspeak so it was only a joke.
Oops. Now I feel like quite the fool :oops:
My apologies Smokey.
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Well, I do NOT use any Tremulous cheats/hacks/aimbots of any kind. I don't know if this is true or not, but I'll have to ask HighTech about it. (If it is proven completely true I will consider quitting CBS, honestly, but I don't want to be known as a clan hopper either. Its a complicated situation.)
How is there not enough evidence that it is hightech spamming the forums with the wallhack url? Isn't that distributing cheats? Any forum mod can agree, my IP is NOT based in Florida, but Rochester, NY.
Among that, numerous other faults lie in hightechs attempts to lay any blame for cheating on me, just because I confront him and his clan, does not mean I also cheat.
Jabberwock can provide a condump of my and hightechs conversation also, I confronted him, and then hightech suddenly accuses me. He didn't know what to say when I told him I was using linux. Then he posts false screenshots, which are blatantly forged, I don't play on servers where i ping over 100, and I use a modified hud.
Good try hightech.
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Oh sure. :p Don't give me any credit.
Anyway, Sonik, drop all clans! Then you won't be a clan hopper. :p
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Oh sure. :p Don't give me any credit.
Anyway, Sonik, drop all clans! Then you won't be a clan hopper. :p
I give credit in other ways ;)
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you know what, i dont care who you are, i dont care if ur smokey or high,
just stop spamming the forums,
i frankly dont care, but other people find it annoying, so please stop, your only gonna hurt urself in the long run more,
-gah-
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Well, I quit CBS, but I hope HighTech doesn't go all Rob on us.
Heh, Smokey, always the center of attention. ;)
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CRAWLLLLLING IN MY SKIN[/size]
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CRAWLLLLLING IN MY SKIN[/size]
Lmao. Best post in this whole thread.
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CRAWLLLLLING IN MY SKIN[/size]
Epic win. You got to it a little before I did, so now I'm sad :P
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high tech u chiter
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high tech u chiter
arrrrrrrrg
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Well, Smokey only using linux isnt true..
Here is why
(http://www.yourowned.net/urmuther.jpg)[/img]
Noclip, perhaps?
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Well, Smokey only using linux isnt true..
Here is why
IMG gooes here....
Noclip, perhaps?
How can noclip do that?
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No, that screenshot is obviously the wallhack being discussed here, but it's also obviously not Smokey.
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Knowing that some helmetless human is a few rooms away from your dretch in some direction does give them somewhat of an advantage. I question, though, how easily said dretch would get to the human when it can't tell between walls and passageways.
I'm not defending this things, I'm just bringing up the point of view that it might not actually help a player all that much and could hinder the performance of a more experienced player.
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Most of us have played the default maps SO MUCH we know them by heart, and after a few games where you test the wall hack, you'll probably have no problem remembering where the hallways are. Let me tell you one thing, a dretch poping out of the side wall and biting you in the head is NOT FUNNY.
Also, wall hacks can be used to shoot through walls, so an md camping under his reactor inside teh floor, can shoot through most of the level in some maps, not too funny when you get shot inside your base or your eggs get taken out by a saw appearing through a wall and other things.
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I know the levels generally, but I'm not sure if I'd be at my best with invisible walls and such.. it's little details in the surfaces that would take the edge off of my playing. I like to be able to see parts of the walls that I'm going to use to evade shots.
As for shooting through walls, that is really bad. Can you confirm that this hack has that feature?
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Also, wall hacks can be used to shoot through walls, so an md camping under his reactor inside teh floor, can shoot through most of the level in some maps, not too funny when you get shot inside your base or your eggs get taken out by a saw appearing through a wall and other things.
Wow, this is so wrong. Would you care to show us in which svn revision did bullets piercing through walls got implemented please?
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All the wall hacks I've seen allowed the user to shoot through walls while he was within the wall. Thats also the main point of the hack, enable you to shoot your opponent while he can't shoot you.
I might be wrong, but I'm speaking about the hacks for other games I've seen(Yet to see this one in action)
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There are 4 kinds of wallhacking:
*Wallhack: Basically allows you to see through walls. Really only good for games where grenades can kill with splash damage.
*Wallshot: What Mantra is talking about
*Wallghosting: Basically a toned down noclip. Player can still shoot and be shot at.
*Noclip: You know what this does.
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So, either I had real weird lag, or I finally saw someone using some kind of "invisibility" on SST (I think it was SST, I was hopping around some) yesterday. I saw the tag "Unnamed Player" on my HUD, but no player. This was on Karith (I'm pretty sure), in the alien base, right by the overhead door in the egg room. It could have been because there were 45+ people on, and I was right near a brush. There was one laggy battle, where one outdoor jettard was keeping about 8 to 12 aliens busy neither attacking or really defending. It was S3, so the battle near the human base had plenty of lucispam, but mostly it was Tyrants desperately vying for space, backing around corners.
The same thing happened again in a stairwell, but with an actual name with colored letters, etc. Again, no player to be seen. Both times I was looking in front of me, not towards any good hidey places. Weird. Anyway, I couldn't tell if it actually was a "cloaked" player, or just lagginess. Both times I was nowhere near a battle, and had pretty high framerate (my ping is usually around 45-78 before I connect). Anybody else seen any "ghosts"?
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Actually, the ability to see the location and type of enemy through a wall allows for one to get a distinct strategic advantage, surprise!!!!
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This is a shit wallhack that is an unmodified version of a q3 cheat. Becuase they share (almost) the same engine, players can use junk like this, with little to no modification. Anti-hack software like PB or something similar to VAC implemented in version 1.2.0 would be a welcome surprise.
Also, the ONLY wallHACK is the kind that allows you to see through walls. Noclip is a command available only though devmapping, or by starting the game with a special set of cvars and turning on sv_cheats. Wall"ghosting" is a made up term. and I don't know WTF Mantra is talking about. I've played CoD, CoD2, the original UT, UT2004, and Runescape, so I'm pretty sure I've seen most of the hacks there are.
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nice confession, you're forgiven. And thanks for the info now it's easier to spot wallhackers :D, I'm thinking of something... are you able to turn it on and off during gameplay?
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Actually, in CS it was possible to activate noclip on servers with cheats off. Pretty sure it's not possible on trem, but figured it was worth mentioning.