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Title: US vs Canada
Post by: -:GoDz:-Devil on March 25, 2007, 03:55:32 am
I was talking to someone over Teamspeak and he said that Canada can take US all by there self, well really I dont hold this against anyone and not hating anyone I am just posting too see if this is true and what you think about it.
So post and tell us all if the US goes to War with Canada which I kinda hope not who will win?

Post here about your opinion!
Title: Re: US vs Canada
Post by: Vindication? on March 25, 2007, 04:03:41 am
Quote from: "-:GoDz:-Devil"
I was talking to someone over Teamspeak and he said that Canada can take US all by there self, well really I dont hold this against anyone and not hating anyone I am just posting too see if this is true and what you think about it.
So post and tell us all if the US goes to War with Canada which I kinda hope not who will win?

Post here about your opinion!


This goes in Off Topic.

Plus, does Canada even have an army?
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: St. Anger on March 25, 2007, 04:04:10 am
I hope you're talking about Tremulous. We (US) would annihilate Canada in a real war.
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: _Equilibrium_ on March 25, 2007, 04:21:49 am
actually, after we annialated them, subs would nuke us back.

all out war with another country with nukes = everyone loses
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: Plague Bringer on March 25, 2007, 04:27:39 am
You better run...we'll sick the mounties on you!
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: TriedtoDestroyMetal on March 25, 2007, 04:38:28 am
Obviously, Canada would take it.
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: -:GoDz:-Devil on March 25, 2007, 04:59:44 am
Yea your right this should be going into the Off Topic did not look sorry, would a admin please move this in Off Topic please.

Thank you
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: kozak6 on March 25, 2007, 05:00:19 am
The US has the 2nd largest military in the world.
Canada has the 60th largest.

The US has more Marines alone than Canada has soldiers.

The US Armed Forces spends about $522 billion annually.
The Candian Foces spends about $15 billion Canadian dollars annually, which works out to about $13 billion USD.

Even though the US currently has W in charge  :oops: , I'd say that the US would be a fairly safe bet.
Title: Re: US vs Canada
Post by: TRaK on March 25, 2007, 05:04:02 am
Quote from: "Vindication?"

Plus, does Canada even have an army?


Tired clichés aside, Canada is the world's 14th highest military spender. Which is a lot, considering we've got approximately the same population as California.

Of course, it's nowhere near the US's spending. But then, who is.

1 - US : 533 billion
2 - UK : 65 billion
3 - France : 60 billion
4 - Japan : 45 billion
5 - China : 45 billion
...
14 - Canada : 13 billion

You americans spend way too much money.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures
Title: Re: US vs Canada
Post by: Vindication? on March 25, 2007, 05:51:01 am
Quote from: "TRaK"
You americans spend way too much money.


Plus, is there a single country left that actually likes the United States...?
Title: Re: US vs Canada
Post by: Plague Bringer on March 25, 2007, 06:01:10 am
Quote from: "Vindication?"
Quote from: "TRaK"
You americans spend way too much money.


Plus, is there a single country left that actually likes the United States...?

Well....if you include the US itself then...no
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: TRaK on March 25, 2007, 06:15:46 am
Sure.

Israel.
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: Caveman on March 25, 2007, 06:28:53 am
Quote from: "TRaK"
Sure.

Israel.


Don't forget about the banana-republics :)
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: n00b pl0x on March 25, 2007, 06:59:05 am
Hawaii is a country and it likes teh US! and so is Alaska! BUT! the mounties are called mounties which sounds like sexual inuendo so theyll win no matter what.
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: Caveman on March 25, 2007, 07:12:46 am
pl0x can't you at least make your flamebait so, that it isn't that obvious?
Title: Re: US vs Canada
Post by: Taiyo.uk on March 25, 2007, 11:15:26 am
Quote from: "Vindication?"
Quote from: "TRaK"
You americans spend way too much money.


Plus, is there a single country left that actually likes the United States...?

Iraq ;)
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: janev on March 25, 2007, 01:02:21 pm
:roll: Yay another usa vs the world thread...
USA would win. Haven't you played fallout? Besides Canada is too busy taking in all the worlds refugees to be a threat to anyone....
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: Plague Bringer on March 25, 2007, 02:35:08 pm
It's because we're creating an army of refugees, eh.
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: TriedtoDestroyMetal on March 25, 2007, 02:36:42 pm
Quote from: "TRaK"
Sure.

Israel.
I hereby revise my position. Canada-Israel alliance. Don't worry though, yanks. We'll just do a surgical strike in Washington... There are some tumorous cysts there that need excising ;)
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: Vindication? on March 25, 2007, 04:04:37 pm
Quote from: "Plague Bringer"
It's because we're creating an army of refugees, eh.


Refugees who all hate Americans and their beliefs!

It's a brilliant plan!  Train them to destroy the capitalist republican infidels!  Declare Canadahad on the unbelievers!

BOW TO HARPER!  BOW TO ELIZABETH!  DESTROY THE INFIDELS!
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: kozak6 on March 25, 2007, 11:21:29 pm
Quote from: "_Equilibrium_"
actually, after we annialated them, subs would nuke us back.

all out war with another country with nukes = everyone loses


It's interesting that you mention that because apparently, Canada doesn't (currently) have any nukes.   Although, they could make some rather quickly if they wanted to.
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: Superpie on March 26, 2007, 01:11:19 am
Outcome: US nukes canada 200-300 times, Canada nukes US 6-7 times, we both get the same number of casualties due to population density; therefore the US spends more money on nukes than Canada thus losing.
+nuclear winter = US loses again due to population density.
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: _Equilibrium_ on March 26, 2007, 01:13:09 am
Quote from: "kozak6"
Quote from: "_Equilibrium_"
actually, after we annialated them, subs would nuke us back.

all out war with another country with nukes = everyone loses


It's interesting that you mention that because apparently, Canada doesn't (currently) have any nukes.   Although, they could make some rather quickly if they wanted to.
are you sure? source?
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: Plague Bringer on March 26, 2007, 01:30:43 am
Quote from: "Superpie"
Outcome: US nukes canada 200-300 times, Canada nukes US 6-7 times, we both get the same number of casualties due to population density; therefore the US spends more money on nukes than Canada thus losing.
+nuclear winter = US loses again due to population density.
Hehehe owned.

Wait....

We've got nukes?

I'll bet they're hidden under teh Rockys
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: TRaK on March 26, 2007, 05:37:24 am
Wow people.

Canada doesn't have nukes. Never has, probably never will.

Countries with nukes :

US
UK
France
China
Russia
India
Pakistan
Israel

(North Korea)
(Iran)

Though it is true that we could probably develop some very quickly, if we wanted to.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_powers
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: player1 on March 26, 2007, 06:38:31 pm
Is it true that 80% of Canadians live within 80 miles of the US?
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: Angelwinged Devil on March 27, 2007, 01:10:21 pm
if Canada made sneak attacks against the US, and ninjapwned them all they actually had a chance to win if no one found out, because if they did, the us would nadeatombombspam canada. Both with abombs and soldiers.

Or the satan would win because the blood of terrence and philip touched the earth.
Title: pown
Post by: mooseberry on April 02, 2007, 05:29:54 am
YA the entire world would fight the U.S. and the only real competition would be China.  :)  (and maybe the U.K.) P.S. Everyone is forgetting that while the U.S. is not doing well in Iraq, that means they are not good at rebuilding the nation. To quote a saying from the Daily Show: "We may not be the best nation builders, but we are still top notch Nation unbuilder."

Plus everyone hates the U.S. but it still matters to them. (no 14 hr days for 3 bucks a day making little plastic things.)
Title: Re: pown
Post by: _Equilibrium_ on April 02, 2007, 05:32:38 pm
Quote from: "mooseberry"
YA the entire world would fight the U.S. and the only real competition would be China.  :)  (and maybe the U.K.)
Russia too. they got a hellava lot of nukes
Title: Re: pown
Post by: n00b pl0x on April 02, 2007, 09:40:08 pm
Quote from: "_Equilibrium_"
Quote from: "mooseberry"
YA the entire world would fight the U.S. and the only real competition would be China.  :)  (and maybe the U.K.)
Russia too. they got a hellava lot of nukes


in a war that engulfs the entire planet, the moon would win. DUH!
Title: fyi
Post by: floodbud on April 10, 2007, 06:40:34 pm
Just so y'all know, the US has 12 nuclear subs in oceans around the world, each one of which has the power to blow up the northern hemisphere.  If it comes to that, nobody will win...all that will happen is complete annihilation of the population of the Earth.  I don't suggest starting nuclear war.

Maybe I'm not allowed to talk about the nukes, but all the same, I think the US has the best economy, most dedicated soldiers, smartest government (Canada just has a corrupt prime minister), and the nukes beside.  My vote definitely rests on the US.

No, I'm not biased.  Were I biased, I would be biased toward Germany because they are freaking awesome.  I have to look at facts, though.  Germany would take 2nd.

______________
Floodbud
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: _Equilibrium_ on April 11, 2007, 02:00:27 am
there is no 2nd if everyone is dead
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: Superpie on April 11, 2007, 05:50:21 pm
http://www.allthingsflash.com/links/files/cartoons/endofworld.swf
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: Mantra on April 11, 2007, 06:03:35 pm
A war with canada would never happen, simply because the US is WAY too dependant on our wood, crop and water resources to even want to shoot nukes at us.
On a side notes, while its true the us as a bigger army and diffenitelly, do not forget that if war broke out, 86%(roughly) of our population is able to join a militia within an hour, and as such, that means our army is roughly the size of our population.
Also, the amount of citizen trained in the use of arms is much denser then the us.
Another thing to consider, if the us broke a war with us, they'd face troubles within their own country at the same time from canadiens currently on american soil.

I beleive if a war broke out, though there should probably never be one, it would probably be pretty long, and us might win in the end, with heavy casualty.
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: Superpie on April 11, 2007, 06:11:40 pm
I'm not trained to use arms but I have an airsoft assault rifle and a paintball gun :P
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: ShadowNinjaDudeMan on April 11, 2007, 06:19:06 pm
Scotland would all just pilie in to one of our killer subs and scoot off to the sachelles and party while all of you nuke each other to bits.

Then we would nuke you.
Title: all i can say is...
Post by: floodbud on April 11, 2007, 06:43:01 pm
All I can say is...

Try arguing with a nuclear warhead.

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Floodbud
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: Xonya on April 11, 2007, 07:28:57 pm
Cänädä! (Canada ~Kanada)

Kummeli -guys has answer for all!!1

(Kummeli - Finnish Sketch comedy)
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: Plague Bringer on April 11, 2007, 08:35:30 pm
Canada owns all. We're too nice, China will help us ^^.
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: treminator on April 11, 2007, 11:43:51 pm
I once met a Canadian while backpacking in the Rockies.  He was headed towards Colorado and me to Alaska.  We met somewhere in between, atop some narrow peak in central Idaho.  By that time, I was out of provisions, and he just wouldn't yield the path, as nor would I.  So, we just stood there, face to face, as a brisk northerly wind heralded an approaching blizzard.

This man had a long worn out face with sun beaten leathery orange skin, barely discernible beneath the thick groves of hairy bush from his beard covering it.  I noticed the red maple leaf emblem on his parka.  "Howdy, partner!", I yelled out to him amidst the fierce whistling wind.  Nothing.  Absolutely nothing. He just stood there as my howdy echoed and rattled below in the valley.  Just silence.  Dead silence. An uneasy silence, lasting minutes of piercing deafness and discomfort.  I did not know what to think, or do, or how to proceed.  So, I took a few cautious steps forward, still with axe in hand, tightly snug behind my right leg and completely out of view. I tried once more at communication, this time only a few inches from the emense shadow he cast amongst the thick snow. "How are you?", my voice faded.  He responded, but only with a quirky smirk and a lowering of the left brow.  "Where ya headed?", as I tried yet again to penetrate this invisible social barrier between us.  Still nothing.  Then I remembered some north east Canadians speak a different English dialect entirely. I tried in my best broken abomination of fluency, "Pole vu francais?"  This exchange was only acknowledged by a lowering of the right brow now.  I could tell his mood had quickly changed from ambivalance to full blown contempt for my presence.

It was now time.  I had not eaten in hours.  I had not tasted flesh amidst my teeth since feeding on some boney rabbit a day prior.  My quivering stomach tempted my hands, pressing even tighter against the wooden handle now.  But then, just as my arm began to raise and the tip of my blade gleamed amongst the sun, he extended his hand.  Wait.  What was this I thought.  I lowered my axe and cautiously inspected his hand, shifting my eyes quickly to his eyes and once again to his hand.  This was no man, or so I presumed.  There were four grey bumps in his palm and razor sharp claws protruding from his fur in place of fingers.  On closer inspection, he was layered head to toe in thick wire tough hair, which the orange parka and pants had hidden from my eyes only moments earlier.  What was this beast, this thing, which towered over me by two or three feet.

I surmised his intent by now.  His hand was a plea, a request, or precisely, an extension of an offering.  He wanted something from me.  Tribute? No, I gathered.  He was asking for a toll.  Something, anything, as payment to yield the road and let me pass.  Slowly, I methodically wrapped my axe around my leg and placed it in his hand.  He quickly gripped it with both of his, raising it above his head and shaking it up and down repeatedly.  He bellowed forth an ungodly cackle, something between a bear growl and a hyenna, penetrating the thick winter air and shaking my feet where they stood.  I trembled.  I felt petrified, like a wooden totem pole, motionless and emotionless, quite helpless and waiting for what may follow.  With one giant heave forward, leg after leg he pushed snow around me and slowly passed beyond the faint whispers of snow crunching behind me.  I never even turned around to look.  After collecting my senses, I sojourned onwards and made shelter for the night in a cave.  Days later, I was picked up by a park ranger.

Back at the lodge, while taking sips from a hot mug as embers from the fireplace cackled and snapped, the ranger informed me he had been tracking this thing for days.  I beckoned him, "What was this thing?". I had never been up north, so I gestured, "A canadian?".  "We don't know!", he snapped back, "We just don't know."  I thanked that ranger and left his cabin, returning home two days later.

On hindsight, I really don't know what I found atop that mountain pass that day.  Man? Canadian? or Yeti?  The maple leaf emblem on that orange parka still haunts me as I sleep.  To this day, I can only wonder what becomes of those who venture along that path.  I have never met a Canadian in person before, but my tale is a tale of caution.  Remember it well, or perish in utter disregard of it.  These Canadians are a fearsome lot.  Half man, half beast, or maybe, just maybe, neither.  God Bless America.
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: Plague Bringer on April 12, 2007, 12:18:34 am
Wow, shameless country advertisement and bashing all in the same story.

Fuck you too.

:roll:
Title: Re: US vs Canada
Post by: KobraKaine on April 12, 2007, 12:21:06 am
Ok, I'm waaaaaay to lazy to read all that crap treminator just said, so I hope it wasn't important.

Quote from: "Vindication?"
Quote from: "TRaK"
You americans spend way too much money.


Plus, is there a single country left that actually likes the United States...?


Where the fuck are you from?  I'll be at your window tonight with a goddamn shotgun, you pussy.

First of all, America can't use it's nukes because then everyone else would too and the whole fucking world would be in dime sized pieces floating halfway across the galaxy.

Secondly, we're way to dependent on Canadian hydro-elecric power from Manitoba driving down our energy rates (and some of us 18 year olds don't mind heading across the border for a beer now and then, anyway.)

Thirdly, if we DID go to war with them, what the fuck would they fight us with?  Cows???  They hardly have a population, much less a goddamn army.  Not to mention they're barely more than a socialistic satellite nation of Britain's.

And to whoever quoted the Daily Show, I say this... "ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?"  That entire show consists of a bunch of fucking unamerican comedians who get large paychecks from gayass liberals to bash tthe Bush administration.

And why the hell does France have nukes, anyway?  They're to pussy to even go to war against a handful of goddamn Iraqi terrorists, what are they going to do with a bunch of nukes???

Trak has a point, however.  Our government (largely the Democrats) spends waaaaay to much money.
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: Plague Bringer on April 12, 2007, 12:39:53 am
You also depend on us to buy and then rip us off selling our oil back to us, assholes. :P. We've got more then cows, we'll rape you with our pitchforks too, duh!

We've got Mounties and the RCMP, that's all we need. We're a peaceful nation (FTMP) and i'm glad. I dont want terrorists knocking on my door or blowing up the CN Tower. Oh, yeah, I do have terrorists knocking on my door. The Jehova's Witnesses trying to sell me pamphlets.
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: KobraKaine on April 12, 2007, 12:42:27 am
Quote from: "Plague Bringer"
Oh, yeah, I do have terrorists knocking on my door. The Jehova's Witnesses trying to sell me pamphlets.


God I hate those little fuckers...
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: Plague Bringer on April 12, 2007, 12:53:57 am
+1
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: Mantra on April 12, 2007, 04:47:40 am
Yeah, I think I scared the last one though.
When he came up, I told him flatly I worship jenova.
He went: whats that?
I went: Its the head of my mother, its in my cellar right now, wanna see it?
He left screaming, wonder what was up with him, O well.

Terminator's story:
He was heading up north to alaska.
On the way he met a grizzly bear wearing a canadian tag.
Gives it a gift, it left.
After going down the mountain, he gets taken in by a park ranger. Asks it if it was a canadian.


I have an mp3 player with 400+ songs.
A 6.8 mm Remington SPC with roughly 500 bullets locked up in my basement.
An unloaded riot shotgun(a 20 inch barrel (510 mm) and a 9 shot capacity) for combat speciallity on top of my chimney with about 45 shells in my dad's room.
And my uncle as a charged .44 Magnum under is bed in his room with 22 bullets, roughly, scatered here and there in the house.
I'm also a sword fanatic with about a dozen swords(Most being fake replicas) But I do own a liuye dao worth roughly 800$ that is sharp and can cut.

I'm profficient in the use of all those weapons.

If you ask why, simply put.
We got robbed twice, in one case my parent got tied up and locked in a closet for 28 hours. My uncle is a little crazy, since he got attacked about a dozen times on the streets.
My little sister got abducted and raped at the age of 13.
Kids when I was young had fun throwing rocks at me because I was better then them at school.(At a young age I learned how to deflect rocks with a blade. Been a sword fan since the age of 7) Result though, I went to 6 different schools during elementary and high school.

We're all a little crazy at my house, in fact most people around my city are all a little crazy. Hell, we got a working militia. Out of the 4600(Roughly) people in the village, 3985 can take up arms within a day, 1645 in about an hour. We all know each others really well.
If a war broke out, it would be funny if the americanies would come near our little town :p
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: KobraKaine on April 12, 2007, 04:55:15 pm
Sounds like a charming little pre-medieval hamlet...

Got news for ya, takes more than 5000 swordbearing mounties to make an army.

I do like your Jenova thing tho, that's frickin hilarious!  I'm gonna have to try that one sometime.
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: Superpie on April 12, 2007, 05:05:11 pm
Kill the mounties' families and say the Americans did it. Then give the mounties an unlimited supply of heavy artillery.
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: KobraKaine on April 12, 2007, 05:10:07 pm
...Firing a rocketlauncher from atop a horse...

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggghhhhhhhtttttttttt.   :P
Title: heck
Post by: floodbud on April 12, 2007, 07:01:27 pm
Wow, lots of swearing on this forum.

US wins with nukes, period, but loses too because everyone else uses nukes.  The only guys that live are those in the nuclear submarines, who will soon die because they don't know how to function in a society with less than a hundred people.

And we're working on the oil issue.  The darned environmentalists won't let us mine shale off the coast of CA...so we're screwed until we round them up and shoot them.

Until then, we'll see.  Hopefully no more World Wars.

____________________
Floodbud
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: Plague Bringer on April 12, 2007, 08:16:25 pm
World war will end with everyone loosing. Yeah sure, whoever has the most nukes does the most damage and therefore "wins".

I dont think that a milennia of rebuilding countless cities and struggiling with dropping population and disease is a win.

If there was an all out nuclear war, we all loose.

Let us pray that there is no WW-III, it will tear the Earth apart by the seams.

However, it would make a preety sweet movie.
Title: Re: heck
Post by: KobraKaine on April 12, 2007, 09:47:15 pm
Quote from: "floodbud"
And we're working on the oil issue.  The darned environmentalists won't let us mine shale off the coast of CA...so we're screwed until we round them up and shoot them.

Until then, we'll see.  Hopefully no more World Wars.
____________________
Floodbud


Ah, finally a solid American ally on the forums.  God bless you good sir.   :)

I say we string up Al Gore as an example of what happens to those liberal hippies when they fuck with our oil supply.  I mean, c'mon, they want us to swith to WIND energy for heavensake.  Do you have ANY idea how expensive and unreliable that is?
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: Mantra on April 13, 2007, 02:54:29 am
True 5000 people is not an army, but if the US army need 10000 people sent to take out such a small resistance, and takes heavy casualties, is it really worth it?
By the way, there's only like 5 people in our town that possess sword, and as far as I know, there's only 3 swords that can actually be used for fighting.(The others are basically iron clubs :p)

US vs Canada would not be a world war, too few of the world would be involved. And of course, no nukes would be used. If they shot any of our village, radiation would fall on their cities as well >.>
Title: re
Post by: floodbud on April 13, 2007, 06:47:49 pm
Got a point there mantra...but if you read the rest of this thread, you will find that it doesn't exactly follow the topic of "US vs. Canada" any more.

Definitely we should string up Al Gore.  And all other liberals next to him.  Especially Bill Clinton.  Al Gore says he tries to fight global warming, then he drives a huge truck around and lets out enough hot air (a.k.a. CO2) to cause it solo...I'll help you if you come up with a plan.  I have $$$.

God bless you too.
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Floodbud
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: treminator on April 15, 2007, 09:44:22 pm
Quote from: "Plague Bringer"
Wow, shameless country advertisement and bashing all in the same story.

Fuck you too.

:roll:

Oops.  Apparently, I mistook this thread as pure fancy, fun, and fantasy.  But apparently, some peeps got real beef with our northern friends (and vice versa).

By the way, you were close mantra. I was just musing about the legends of a Yeti (http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dtrapp/bigfoot.htm) here in the States, and one poor canadian soul not familiar with it.
Title: US vs Canada
Post by: Plague Bringer on April 15, 2007, 09:46:50 pm
Quote from: "treminator"
Quote from: "Plague Bringer"
Wow, shameless country advertisement and bashing all in the same story.

Fuck you too.

:roll:

Oops.  Apparently, I mistook this thread as pure fancy, fun, and fantasy.  But apparently, some peeps got real beef with our northern friends (and vice versa).

By the way, you were close mantra. I was just musing about the legends of a Yeti (http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dtrapp/bigfoot.htm) here in the States, and one poor canadian soul not familiar with it.


Sorry, must've mistook your post for one saying Canadians are monsters. :P