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General => Feedback => Topic started by: Odin on March 28, 2007, 05:43:26 pm

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Post by: Odin on March 28, 2007, 05:43:26 pm
Hide servers on the master server list with 0x01's in their name. It's selfish and makes the list ugly.
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Post by: Plague Bringer on March 28, 2007, 05:44:39 pm
or atleast hide the symbols, the Tremulous Server Browser does that.
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Post by: Lakitu7 on March 28, 2007, 06:20:18 pm
Default sorting by ping instead of name fixes that, when 1.2 ever comes out.
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Post by: Odin on March 28, 2007, 07:25:47 pm
I mean remove them from the master server, so they don't come up at all.
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Post by: tuple on March 28, 2007, 07:39:00 pm
Quote from: "Lakitu7"
Default sorting by ping instead of name fixes that, when 1.2 ever comes out.


No.  Then if I try to get to a particularly named server and order by name, the list is fubar'd.  Stip non-ascii characters from the list.  Period.
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Post by: next_ghost on March 28, 2007, 10:28:50 pm
Quote from: "tuple"
No.  Then if I try to get to a particularly named server and order by name, the list is fubar'd.  Stip non-ascii characters from the list.  Period.


Strip SERVERS with non-ascii characters in their name from the list. Wait, why am I writing this here and not in master server code?
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Post by: IJsje on March 28, 2007, 10:33:20 pm
NO. Keep it this way. Let the retards go on the retard servers so I can play with the intelligent people.
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Post by: kevlarman on March 29, 2007, 04:57:06 am
Quote from: "next_ghost"
Quote from: "tuple"
No.  Then if I try to get to a particularly named server and order by name, the list is fubar'd.  Stip non-ascii characters from the list.  Period.


Strip SERVERS with non-ascii characters in their name from the list. Wait, why am I writing this here and not in master server code?
because you're thinking of non-printing characters, 0x00-0x20 are in the ascii character set, and because someone already did that, you just need to convince the people in control of the master server to put up that code.
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Post by: genie on March 29, 2007, 05:27:00 am
Quote from: "tuple"
Quote from: "Lakitu7"
Default sorting by ping instead of name fixes that, when 1.2 ever comes out.


No.  Then if I try to get to a particularly named server and order by name, the list is fubar'd.  


have it sort by ping first time you open it, add servers you play at to favorites, or servers you think you will play at, and then instead of sorting by name go to favorites and you got servers you want to play on right there and then
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Post by: Paradox on March 29, 2007, 05:06:48 pm
Dont use the in game server browser, period.
Use TremTracker (R1's or whatever it was called) or Qtracker.
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Post by: Odin on March 29, 2007, 05:10:58 pm
Paradox: We're not complaining about it for our sake. The noobs won't know that. 0x01 is a selfish way to get your server populated with noobs.
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Post by: optear on March 29, 2007, 05:12:08 pm
Quote from: "Odin"
Paradox: We're not complaining about it for our sake. The noobs won't know that. 0x01 is a selfish way to get your server populated with noobs.

I wonder who wants it
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Post by: sleekslacker on March 30, 2007, 06:57:38 am
I suggest that whoever is in control of the master server should give a grace period of one month, and then start dropping those with non readable characters. Sort by pinging isn't the solution to the issue. These characters are not meant to be read. I just hate those boxes.

Let's start disciplining server owners with some proper stickied rules.
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Post by: Odin on March 30, 2007, 03:51:11 pm
Quote from: "optear"
Quote from: "Odin"
Paradox: We're not complaining about it for our sake. The noobs won't know that. 0x01 is a selfish way to get your server populated with noobs.

I wonder who wants it
If noobs go to real servers, ones that don't have you fighting bases instead of the enemy players, they will learn the right way how to play, and will actually be better players.
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Post by: Paradox on March 30, 2007, 04:48:50 pm
Yes, given a grace period, i suspect many server ops will drop the characters.
However, if you plow into it R1 style, and start banning people without any warning, to get your server back to the top, well, you cant expect the community to be happy.
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Post by: khalsa on March 30, 2007, 07:54:28 pm
What R1CH did was right. Maybe you disagree with how he went about it, but nonetheless it was the correct thing to do.

Why should server ops be given a grace period? If you don't have the dignity to not spam the server list you don't deserve any benefit of the doubt that you will change.

When they strip the 0x01 etc. asshole server ops will just start spamming things like AAAAAaaaSST. I say just ban their servers for 30 days, I'm sure they will at least change their ways at that point, until they get banned again.

Khalsa
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Post by: OverFlow on March 30, 2007, 08:01:16 pm
The problem with just dropping servers with funny characters in the beginning is that there's always going to be a character thats considered 'before' all the other characters.  It doesn't fix the problem, instead you just lose a lot of the servers on the list, and there essentially become less places for people to play at.

Default sort by ping fixes the problem, instead of punishing those who want their servers to be played at.
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Post by: Stof on March 30, 2007, 08:16:38 pm
Sort by name after stripping every single non alphanumeric char ( color codes too ) from the name. After that, server admins will have to call their server "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasomething" if they want to be first which would be very very ugly for them :)
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Post by: sleekslacker on March 30, 2007, 08:42:16 pm
Sorting by ping is the solution to people trying to get on top of the list by 'cheating', and that's one issue. The other issue here is they're using unreadable characters which doesn't look pretty at all. Let's do both stripping non-legit characters and sorting by ping (already in last time I heard). Of course if we don't want the extra processing needed (or too lazy to code that in) we can start dropping them all.

Also, I would think a server search by name feature useful when you have a list too long.
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Post by: techhead on March 30, 2007, 09:22:38 pm
Yes, auto-sort by ping.
Harder to find a specific server, but new players will have the load spread across the servers quasi-randomly, instead of flocking to the 10 servers who stuck themselves at the top of the list.
Oh, and yes for "Search Server" feature.
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Post by: David on March 30, 2007, 09:25:02 pm
If your looking for a specific server, sort by name.  or use favourites.