Tremulous Forum
General => General Discussion => Topic started by: floodbud on March 30, 2007, 07:02:38 pm
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Here are some things not mentioned. You can be kicked for violating these rules.
May I suggest that this be made into a sticky?
1. No base camping
--Means, no staying at base and just defending it the whole game.
2. No luci spamming
--Means, no using the right click over and over again with the lucifer cannon.
3. No feeding
--Means, if you're not good at the game, don't go out to fight alone, giving the other team free kills.
4. No hacks
--Means, if you modify your source code (i.e. giving aliens crosshairs) don't go onto servers that aren't yours.
5. No flaming
--Means, don't get overly mad at someone and try to insult them during the game.
6. No cheap tricks
--I hope I don't need to explain this one.
7. No deconning
--Don't destroy your own buildings without common consent, or unless you are the designated builder.
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Floodbud
P.S. I know, everyone already knows these rules, but noobs need to know them.
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No. No it should not be made into a sticky.
1) Base camping to s2 is generally the only way humans can win.
2) Good point but not all (if not most) servers care, if they don't say at the splash screen 'No luci spamming' you should be safe (even though your still a kill whoring prick).
3) 90% of feeding is unintentional and if admins are kicking people just because they are new to the game I doubt that they have the reasoning skills to run a balanced server.
4) You do not have to modify the source code to use a custum HUD, the file is kept seperate from the pure checks for a reason.
5) Good point, but common sense. Anyways most people who flame get killed while talking, so a moot point.
6) It's called outsmarting the enemy, not "cheap tricks". You should use them, with the exception of glitch building (unless the admins don't care about that).
7) Great point, but really make it just don't build until you have played the game for awhile.
Anyways there are already two threads 'Introductory guide' and 'tremulous FAQ' that answer every one of these questons.
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well these rules only apply if they're server rules. especially the spamming rule. there's a lot of different definitions of spamming depending on the admins and the server you're on.
and no cheap tricks? is that like when I plop a nade, stand on it, then get a goon to to try and swipe me and get a suicide kill? but, i LOVE doing that.
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May I strongly suggest you take those rules and stick them where the sun does not shine?
Who are you that you think you can make the rules on servers that do not belong to you?
Noobs need to know that not the players make the rules, rather the owners of the server.
So take your shit and shove it.
Oh and btw... Alien crosshair is no hack, it is a modification of the hud, which incidently is left out of the very basic cheat-protection of tremulous. So that the hud CAN be modified.
Another thing, you Dumbrazz, what about those server that have no designate patch?
Next time you get the urge and try to put up rules, just forget about posting them.
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1. No base camping
--Means, no staying at base and just defending it the whole game.
worst rule ever.
2. No luci spamming
--Means, no using the right click over and over again with the lucifer cannon.
i stand corrected, that is the worst rule ever.
3. No feeding
--Means, if you're not good at the game, don't go out to fight alone, giving the other team free kills.
while good sense, this isn't a rule on any servers i play on, and shouldn't be.
4. No hacks
--Means, if you modify your source code (i.e. giving aliens crosshairs) don't go onto servers that aren't yours.
you don't have to modify any code to add alien crosshairs, and at least 4 of the devs have said xhairs are not cheating, but according to your rule, all admins should be kicked for modifying their client to have support for cl_guid.
5. No flaming
--Means, don't get overly mad at someone and try to insult them during the game.
this is the first rule that makes any sense at all
6. No cheap tricks
--I hope I don't need to explain this one.
you mean like hopping on the reactor when the base is undefended? stupid rule
conclusion:
May I strongly suggest you take those rules and stick them where the sun does not shine?
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I think some of those might be good suggestions. Here's what I suggest for a rule.
Large aliens: keep to the right in hallways, so your teammates can escape and heal
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Rules of the road apply even in tremulous. Especially when Paradox is playing cop.
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I think some of those might be good suggestions. Here's what I suggest for a rule.
Large aliens: keep to the right in hallways, so your teammates can escape and heal
What the hell? Have you heard of the food chain? Bigger aliens don't need to give way to any half-arsed little dretch because they are by virtue of being bigger higher up in the food chain.
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I think some of those might be good suggestions. Here's what I suggest for a rule.
Large aliens: keep to the right in hallways, so your teammates can escape and heal
What the hell? Have you heard of the food chain? Bigger aliens don't need to give way to any half-arsed little dretch because they are by virtue of being bigger higher up in the food chain.
TK/TB my mara with your goon/tyrant pounce/charge and I will proceed to own your fat ass. You needn't take up the whole goddamn hall and killwhore every rifler that comes to hurt you and leave no space for escaping teammates, teammates who are actually helping the team by attacking and then needing to escape. If you're just loitering in the hall you will get thouroghly owned by me and anyone else who wants to get through.
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#8 - If you've got less than fifty posts, you may not be the best person to post the rules. That is, if there are any. That any three players can agree on. :wink: :oops: :-? :)
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Don't aimbot is a rule that any three can agree on, but who seriously would go make an aimbot then read the rules and not use it?
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#8 - If you've got less than fifty posts, you may not be the best person to post the rules. That is, if there are any. That any three players can agree on. :wink: :oops: :-? :)
Not sure if I've said this before, but I know I sure as hell wanted to.
You do realize that not everybody has absolutely no life and spends all their time either playing Trem or on the Trem forums?
You keep trying to bring up post count as a valid argument to call somebody a newbie to the game, or just an idiot in general.
I know a large amount of very skilled players who are hardly ever on the forums, if at all. Does their low post count signify that they know nothing about the game?
If I recall correctly, you only started playing several months ago. Maybe you're the one who needs to keep quiet?
Oh, wait...my advice doesn't matter, because you have a higher post count than me.
EDIT: Ray, I lol'd.
EDIT2: To stay on topic, the threadstarter's rules are 5% common sense, 45% mentioned elsewhere, and 50% idiocy. And that's being generous.
Your percentages may vary. Dial 1-800-CLOSE-THISTHREAD for more information. Side effects may include brain hemorrhages, amnesia, stigmata and death.
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Vindic:
Maybe four smileys aren't enuff to indiate sarcasm. Let me explain them to you.
:wink: This means the poster thinks they're imparting some knowledge to you, or sharing a secret joke, or just generally trying to be funny.
:oops: This means the poster is embarrassed, either for himself, or possibly for you.
:-? The wry half-smile, meaning the poster is chagrinned, or saying, "wtf?".
:) The non-toothy smile, one step down from the shite-eatin' grin, meaning the poster sends warm feelings of happiness and amusement.
I didn't flame dude. I didn't say he was a newb to the game. I only meant that he hadn't enough experience of the forum to prepare himself for the actual flame attack which ensues around here when anyone tries to post "The Rules". Or didn't you see Smokey's attempt to let people know how to kowtow properly?
Just for you buddy:
9) Never assume someone is new just because they have a low post count. They might have a life, or just be an extra sock puppet.
Next time, I'll be more "generous", like you were. By the way, personal kvetching can be arranged via PM. You don't have to bother everybody else with that. :roll: :P :eek: :D
Nice troll, though. Flamey.
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I didn't flame dude. I didn't say he was a newb to the game. I only meant that he hadn't enough experience of the forum to prepare himself for the actual flame attack which ensues around here when anyone tries to post "The Rules". Or didn't you see Smokey's attempt to let people know how to kowtow properly?
Just for you buddy:
9) Never assume someone is new just because they have a low post count. They might have a life, or just be an extra sock puppet.
Next time, I'll be more "generous", like you were. By the way, personal kvetching can be arranged via PM. You don't have to bother everybody else with that. :roll: :P :eek: :D
Nice troll, though. Flamey.
I've seen you do the same thing before several times, sans smileys. Stop trying to cover up for idiocy.
As for Smokey, it's more because his rules revolve around him being a hypocritical, egotistical elitist than because he made rules in general.
I find it funny that both of you give suggestions and/or rules and yet you both fail to follow them completely. You could've PMed me this, you know.
EDIT: And when I need a smiley-face synopsis, I'll make sure to PM you.
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And you say you have a life...
umm, nice talking to you
plz return to your rantings
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Meh, I think people are being a little hard on the guy... when I read it, maybe I missed something, but I didn't get that he was trying to tell other servers what their rules should be, I thought he was just trying to help newbies understand some things.
After reading the replies and rereading the post, I can kind of see where people's flames are coming from, though. However, look at it this way: many of the "rules" that vary between servers (no luci spam, no camping, etc.) are still good for newbies to knows, as no matter what the actual server rules are, people will complain if you camp, luci spam, etc.
Bottom line: breaking these "rules" will still annoy many people, even if the server admins won't punish you.
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mad joe ftw. probably the only guy who has posted so far who has looked at both sides of the first dudes post
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mad joe ftw. probably the only guy who has posted so far who has looked at both sides of the first dudes post
Inane, utterly nonsensical flames and trolling completely unrelated to your post.
Statement as to my superiority over you.
Further derailment of the topic at hand.
// No, srsly. I agree with Mad Joe partially - there was some decent advice there, but everything there is either madly debatable, pointless, or mentioned elsewhere, hence no need for a new thread.
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there is no new thread. youre a dumbass yet again.
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pot, kettle, black
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banana, orange, green
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there is no new thread. youre a dumbass yet again.
So you're stating that all of these posts were made in the existing introductory guide or Tremulous FAQ?
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no from my car
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1. No base camping
Part of the game (leet aliens vs average humies trying to win or vise versa) (check point #3)
2. No luci spamming
Lol, why in hell we have luci in the first place. Because we need to have guns also in games which we cannot use as they were meant? But 5min spam from the guy camping on reactor... well... thats different.
3. No feeding
Zooomg, opposing team members are more skilled naab! Don't die nor try to kill them! Camp!!!!
4. No hacks
Hacks are for perfectionists who wants to kill the game. Not supported in games where opponents are persons.
5. No flaming
Well, the way you use your words should be always more effective than immature words.
6. No cheap tricks
The trics to beat your enemy is rather the pearl in the game.
7. No deconning
Agreed, but try to notice for example guys saws old base and there is lots of deconning text and notice that he just fastens new base building or guy deconning turret all the time when needed poits for example for armory (Got kicked from that reason as deconner because we needed armory)
Well.. First basic rules then advanced trics...
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Well.. First basic rules then advanced trics...
First common sense.
And why did you tell kana i supposedly am female?
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We have about 100 threads like this here and the fact that many of these rules should be in common sence.
Also few of the "rules" you mentioned are completely idiotic.
1. No base camping
If you like to sit in your base go ahead. Can't wait for you to get bored alone there xD
2. No luci spamming
I don't see problem... lucy is so slow that it's easyly avoided and the small ammo can only kill dreches that don't know anything about wall walk
3.No cheap tricks
Like what? If you get fooled it's your own problem to be fooled.
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I think the funniest part is that floodbud never came back on to defend any of these positions, he just tossed the nade and let the rest of us fall on it. Well done.
oh, and... :grenade: :o :eek: :P :D
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It was the weekend, player1, and I have a life. I don't spend my weekends on trem forums.
I don't know a single l33t player who doesn't follow every one of my posted rules. If you don't like them, then u/y.
Only losers base camp, luci spam, etc. If you don't know that, you don't play trem very often.
And watch it! Just because you are incapable of doing anything but base camping, doesn't make it okay.
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Floodbud.
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Welcome back!
I have to admit, I thought you were cooler when you remained aloof.
:roll: :P :D
And yes, you summarized the major complaints fairly succinctly. It may not be a sticky, but your original post might make a cool T-shirt (sans explanations). :wink: :) :D
For better flaming, try the examples suggested above.
I have a life, you are a loser, if you don't agree you suck etc. are all lame not flame. I'm glad you tried to contribute something. I felt bad when everybody flamed you, mostly, 'cuz I can relate. I only have a couple hundred posts myself. I was joking, anyway. Please don't get caught up in Vindication?'s hate-fest. Your original post was offered in the spirit of community. If you want to take all the flaming in this thread out on me, go right ahead. wtf/e, my man. Have a lovely Trem-day.
You violated #5. Also, #'s 1 & 3 should be sequential (no camping/feeding), and the explanation after feeding although fairly complete, (since it says don't go out alone) could use an additional statement about 1 & 3 seeming contradictory. (I'm suggesting you make #3 into #2, and have luci spamming - or just spamming in general - be number 3). Also, I'm not saying your idea was a sucky one. It's good for people who've never played any team-based shooters before, and a useful message page for your server. Please be aware also, that the Linux-using freeware standalone player one finds in Tremulous may have a certain innate resistance to being told "The Rules". Even the unwritten ones which "every l33t player agrees on".
Oh and...
idiot
Strike One.
idiocy
Strike Two.
idiocy
Strike Three.
Wanna take another swing? Let's pretend it's your birthday, and I'm the pinata. Whoo, feel that breeze. A swing and a miss, batter!
...it's time to turn the page on your fLAME-of-the-day calender, pal. Come back with a new word next week, k?
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7. No deconning
--Don't destroy your own buildings without common consent, or unless you are the designated builder
If you don't know that, you don't play trem very often.
And you are playing Tremulous so often that you think "designated builder" are a standard feature?
Don't try to make us laugh.
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I don't know a single l33t player who doesn't follow every one of my posted rules. If you don't like them, then u/y.
Then you don't know vary many 'l33t' players.
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Well.. First basic rules then advanced trics...
First common sense.
And why did you tell kana i supposedly am female?
Common sense true!
I mixed you up with someone else and correction I forgot to do :)
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Well.. First basic rules then advanced trics...
First common sense.
And why did you tell kana i supposedly am female?
Common sense true!
I mixed you up with someone else and correction I forgot to do :)
Right, my secret female identity remains :)
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I think you guys are being a little harsh on 'em. The point of I got from this post was that he was explaining why nubs are getting yelled at.
2 and 6 however, are kinda retarded. What defines a cheap trick in Tremulous? Really, there isn't many "cheap" things you can do. Besides glitch building of course... (and I believe that's only possible on karith and tremor)
Luci Spammer is the cry of a person who is annoyed that the enemy isn't letting his goon or rant rape you. The only people who bug me with luci are the ones who either
A. Go out 5ft from the base, wait for dretch swarm, point luci at ground and fire. Run to base, reload, repeat.
B. Constantly spam the secondary fire. If you're gonna spam, do it with primary. Please.
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It was the weekend, player1, and I have a life. I don't spend my weekends on trem forums.
I don't know a single l33t player who doesn't follow every one of my posted rules. If you don't like them, then u/y.
Only losers base camp, luci spam, etc. If you don't know that, you don't play trem very often.
And watch it! Just because you are incapable of doing anything but base camping, doesn't make it okay.
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Floodbud.
How many 1337 players do you know? Some of your rules kind of make sense but the way you present them is retarted. Most of it is just common sense and some of the rules are retarted. You wonder why you flame, you basicly just came on acting like you are totally 1337 and know everything where as everyone else doesn't and "haven't been playing trem very long" God I didn't know someone could be so ignorant and stupid. Player1 there was no reason for you to try to defend him. His post was useless irelivant and been posted like 100 other times. Hey why doesn't the owner of the server decide their own rules... OH WAIT they do...... floobud you say we don't have a life when you spend your time trying to tell over a thousand people how you think they should play a game. wow just wow....
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powerover man why are you bashing floodbud dude ? you guys are in one camp and should support each other. I don't see how you could do this to him. :sigh:
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Ranger is almost totally right. Cheap tricks are however you define them...varies with the admin.
Powerover, why are you always on my case? You should be my friend...
make love not war :D (no i'm not gay)
you don't know vary many 'l33t' players
Actually I know quite a few. And "vary" is actually "very" in that case, smarty pants.
I didn't post my rules in order of priority, just as a general rule.
Let me add two more:
x) No bashing
--means, if someone has less than fifty posts, it's because they don't spam posts all over, and they like playing trem more than discussing it. So don't yell at them just because they're new around here.
y) No flooding
--means, don't say the same thing over and over again, or don't say the same thing as everyone else (uh...I wonder who would do that??)
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Floodbud
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Most of it is just common sense and some of the rules are retarted.
Call me easily entertained, but I'll be damned if I don't at least smirk at every single person who does that.
no from my car
Didn't you just get a freakin' sweet new RV with wifi?
...are all lame not flame....
I felt bad when everybody flamed you...
...take all the flaming in this thread out on me...
fLAME-of-the-day
Don't MAKE me get out the fLAMER!
Now, I'm no baseball connoisseur, so I won't make any metaphors...but in home country, ve'd call you hypocrite.
I only have a couple hundred posts myself.
You've got 200 posts in about 2 months - maybe you should, in the wise words of many, "STFU and play".
Please don't get caught up in Vindication?'s hate-fest.
Your anguish sustains me.
...it's time to turn the page on your calender, pal.
As long as you type stuff like this, I feel entitled to use the word 'idiot'. I'm foreign and can spell better than you.
EDIT: Actually I know quite a few.
Sorry, man, but I doubt it.
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Your anguish sustains me.
Finnish Death Metal, ftw!
Welcome back.
Thx 4 teh spelchek remider.
P.S. Dig the "question mark". Very punk.
Edit: Holy crap you even looked up my profile and took a quote out of context from the human female model thread. I thought you said you had a life.
P.S. floodbud it really was a joke dude
Re-edit:
"STFU and play".
Right you are. See you there?
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Wow, you contributed so much to the thread, vindication?.
You are a hypocrite yourself.
in home country, ve'd call you hypocrite.
Is the "ve" a typo or a lame attempt at an accent?
Totally with you about "retarted"...that's funny and hypocritical too.
BTW, if you find any posts where I mess up accidentally on spelling or grammar, you can laugh at me.
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Floodbud
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floodbud...
Play atleast few more months before your come here talking about general rules.
If you lose as an alien coz humans camp then you lack skill. And if you lose coz humans lucy "spam" then you lack the same material.
You have joined to the large group of trem players on 2007 while the most of good players have been playing ever since this first was mod of q3. Me my self started some what year ago (picked up the stand alone release from moddb news) and started mapping for this about 6 moths ago(?).
You should get lot more experience to even think of accounce "GENERAL RULES".
Tell us your thouhts this summer if your opinion would change by then.
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floodbud...
Tell us your thouhts this summer if your opinion would change by then.
Whitebear, You're not kidding. Wait till the flood of 10 year olds who don't know or care what is happening, only that they can play a video game for free all summer long, most likely without there parents finding out! ;)
Incidently, most people play the game before reading the forum, so any listing of rules, aside from being mostly ignored, will be read after the fact anyways.
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Oh... Some of you still have parents hanging around and breathing on your necks. Congratz. :wink:
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7. No deconning
--Don't destroy your own buildings without common consent, or unless you are the designated builder
If you don't know that, you don't play trem very often.
And you are playing Tremulous so often that you think "designated builder" are a standard feature?
Don't try to make us laugh.
most servers use the designate future
to the first rule, I won't call it a rule, more a playing etique. Camping sucks and shows noobishness. And calling camping a strategy and using it because the other guys are leet and you can't defeat them is a stupid escuse. Trem is about teamwork, and strategies, you don't teamwork by sitting at your base on a turret shooting like a retard.
You make a plan, go out there, and fight teh aliens.
lucispamming->forbidden
just not because it's not on the motd doesn't mean it's acceptable, maybe there are external server rules somewhere else.
and flaming is really just ignoring it.
feeding, well deliberate feeding sucks, newbies can't help them, unless they listen to their teammates on a wait or don't go yet or don't go out there alone and get yourself ownzored
hacks, obvious <.<
cheap tricks, exploiting bugs and so on, killing afk players, laggy players etc.
deconning. if you open your mouth before deconning you won't get in trouble, unless people suck.
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most servers use the designate future
No, they don't.
And calling camping a strategy and using it because the other guys are leet and you can't defeat them is a stupid escuse.
If aliens don't like camping, quit camping the human base. Quit running into the human base and feeding them. End of story.
lucispamming->forbidden
No, it's not. Lucy spamming is a strategy so many of you have trouble overcoming you'd rather bitch and/or make rules about it. (Not you specifically, Angel, but you know what I mean) When I see lucy spamming, I dretch the bsuit that's doing it if they are outside of base, or snipe them when they are inside base. I can dretch a bsuit in 2-3 dretches, if that. And you can shoot at your feet all you want, it ain't gonna help. Full charge, easy to snipe through. Secondary, I can take the hit while I snipe. Mind you, I am not one of the better players :)
feeding, well deliberate feeding sucks, newbies can't help them, unless they listen to their teammates on a wait or don't go yet or don't go out there alone and get yourself ownzored
EVERY newbie feeds. You did it, I did it, we all did it. You can try to direct newbies all you want, I'm still gonna hand their ass to them, and I'm not that good! Deliberate feeding is greifing, kick! Not as common as many think though. I know lots who, early on in playing tremulous, tried to emulate the really good and aggressive players to disastrous results. It takes a few matches to learn your lesson on that one ;)
cheap tricks, exploiting bugs and so on, killing afk players, laggy players etc.
More made up rules which basically means "if I don't like it, I think it's cheap and you shouldn't do it."
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This seems to become war between those who have played ever since stand-alone release and people after tjw admin.
people who stands behind those lucy spam & no camp rules fit the second one.
I am alien player and i don't see any problem with lucy spam or camp. Newbies are just to be lead to right path and not playing properly is not the right path in my opinion... We just have to endure it and have fun.
If you get fooled by some trick it's your own problem. Using some map glich like the pipe in tremor just ruins the game from everyone as well as deconing so common sence helps on that matter most of the time.
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On a tangent, someone should fix the glitch-build spots in the default maps, preferably the creators of said maps.
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And you are playing Tremulous so often that you think "designated builder" are a standard feature?
most servers use the designate future
aha, so YOU did a survey.
Show me the numbers please. Last time I looked there were more server out there that were vanilla-setup and not patched in any way.
On a tangent, someone should fix the glitch-build spots in the default maps, preferably the creators of said maps.
While it's good idea to get them fixed, it poses no real problem.
Most builder will decon the buggy structures if they are made aware that it's against the server rules.
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On a tangent, someone should fix the glitch-build spots in the default maps, preferably the creators of said maps.
This would be possible if those who provided said maps also provided the .map files so the community can maintain it even if the original author nolonger has interest.
This subtle plug to release your .map files has been brought to you by the letter S, for sustainability.
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On a tangent, someone should fix the glitch-build spots in the default maps, preferably the creators of said maps.
This would be possible if those who provided said maps also provided the .map files so the community can maintain it even if the original author nolonger has interest.
This subtle plug to release your .map files has been brought to you by the letter S, for sustainability.
Iirc the reason why some of the .maps aren't included is because they were lost.
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I'm glad that *.maps aren't included beacouse we would have 100 difrent copies of atcs by now compiled by starter mapers who decided to add new hole in the wall.
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I posted a "decompiler" for those that have no *map :)
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I'm glad that *.maps aren't included beacouse we would have 100 difrent copies of atcs by now compiled by starter mapers who decided to add new hole in the wall.
TBH I'd rather starter mappers had access to said maps so they can learn proper architecture and technique.
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I guess it's all a matter of what you like in a game and what you don't.
base camping = really long game, hit & run, no action
luci spamming = aliens afraid to come (except dretches)
base camping + luci spamming = /disconnect
deconning = unfair, player gets banned, game is ruined
cheap tricks (like clan spamming, ganging up and kicking entire other team, or kicking the server) = ruined game
Most servers actually do not use designate, sorry angelwings. I think you are smart enough to understand what I was trying to get across to you, though. Avoid deconning reactor, at any rate, unless you are base-moving.
I think this thread is just about extinguished, so if you don't have anything new to say, don't say it please.
I didn't know there were any glitches in those maps, so I can't add input about that.
Signing out.
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Floodbud
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WHATS WITH PEOPLE AND RULES!!!!!!
You cant do this
No doing that.
GAHHK!
Cant we just do what we want. Kinda.
Feeding is a natural part of learning.
I got kicked because I feeded this b suit with luci while I was trying t repair base, wtf was that about.
We do need some rules. But things like Xhairs are only proof of a good coder.
ISNT THAT WHY IT IS GL open source????
My rules
Dont flame.
Dont spam vote.
Go easy on the newer ppl.
and last but most importantly...
Have a good time!
Tremulous wasnt made for rules to be made about it.
Do wat u damn well want as long as u dont affect other ppl badly.
Wen interpreting these. Use your common sense and dont quote me and whine some crap about how I contradict etc.
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+1
People need to stop giving these general rules... FAQ is there to tell some terms that apear in trem but server admin is the one who tells you what you can do on their server and what you can't
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I fed a lot while I was learning too, now I pwn on most servers (the name's Opwn3nt in the game) so I won't get mad at you for feeding unless it is really obvious or you're doing it on purpose.
Have a good time!
I'm with you there, but imagine this...
You're playing an awesome game, your team has the upper hand and you are slowly gaining ground. Suddenly, one of the n00b humans switches teams to aliens, spawns as a granger, and decons the Overmind before switching back to Humans, leaving your base defenseless. You lose in less than 30 seconds.
Let me ask you, is that what you call fun? Obviously, we do need some rules. I guess if an admin disagrees, that's fine.
I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
Ditto for me.
But I won't play on a server with no rules. Maybe that's just me though.
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That is where common sense comes into play. He'll kick the deconer and gives him a ban.
So you see, there is no need for a rule.
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Wow, now I feel useless. Thanks a lot.
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The whole thing with rules, in my mind, is that they can make a game for fun, some of them atleast, like no deconning, I've played one or two servers where otherwise decent players have deconned the other team, this a complete waste of a good game.
And yes floodbud, while some of these rules may make you mad, its just like government, you dont really have much of a say OFFICIALY until you have your own server or contribute to society(comparison = 18 and working) although my basic morals tell me that just a basic set of rules is such a bad idea, so if I may make a fool of myself and amend the rules(actually morals) for floodybuddy:
1. Be a good sport, dont spam hateful messages at people, its very childish.
2. Get into the game, there is no need to sit and base camp or just stay on the sidelines, charge, humans aliens can still only get 9 evos its a matter or time.
3. Play for fun, the saying if you dont care who wins than why keep score should not apply in this game, keep score for friendly competetion, there is nothing better than shoving your mad 133t skllz into some dudes face after a game, but dont "Lucy Spam" or glitch to win.
4. Its a game, just live with the fact that its just a game, so what if you lose, dont go to extremes that will ruin someone elses fun, after we all have to take our turn losing, some more than others.
floodbud, the best you could do to save your standing is stop bickering with power on every forum and try not to be such a a control freak!
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Am i the only one who can appreciate player1's complete owning of people via the written language?
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*blushes*
(No that account isn't my other ip.) And if you think I'm any good, search the profiles of some of the other posters in this thread. At least one of them is a legend (in his own hand).
@Neutral - :)
@floodbud - c'mon, we <3 u man; u tried, u took ur whacks, u'll try again
@Caveman - XD
big ups to all you regular contributors
I'd like to thank n00b pl0x, my Mom, and Jesus, not necessarily in that order.
Edit: at Lord Baxter - And, I might add, "Am I the only one who appreciates Lord Baxter's complete pwning of the animated DIY sig?". Brother.
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Baxter, you're sig is awesome. Must have spent a long time on that one...I cracked up watching it.
As for the Neutral's post, listen here. Yes, the point is to have fun, but you can't have fun without rules. Your rules are mostly right, but mine are more complete, if not worldwide accepted. You, having less than 10 posts on the forum, shouldn't try to be a control freak. And btw, powerover and I are now on good terms with each other, I think. Anyway, I will always follow my rules, and so will gain more respect than someone who decons, luci spams, team-switches, hacks, feeds, etc. Your respect doesn't mean much to me.
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If you play by your stated rules and never deviate, you have my greatest resspect. Even tho I think you'll fail as your rules are simply not cut out for trem and the gameplay .)
One time or the other camping actually is a valid strategy, as is luci-spamming. And your team jusst might off for the worse, just because you refuse to use those tactics.
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Baxter, you're sig is awesome. Must have spent a long time on that one...I cracked up watching it.
i don't think he created that. i've seen it before.
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ATTENTION PLEASE:
the picture on my sig is not mine, so dont go saying how awsome it is, it makes me feel ashamed :( , i should have added something saying as much but i couldn't be bothered.
good though isn't it?
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If a team wants me to luci spam, then I shouldn't be on that team. Just like, sometimes poor people have to steal bread to live, but that doesn't make it okay from the viewpoint of society and law.
So maybe that analogy wasn't so great. Anyway, who made that sig? I want to tell them to get a life...(j/k)
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floodbud, while I have respect for your rules, one thing that is important to realize, that even if magically became so awesome on the forums, if you became so good that it had to make some uber-pwnage-sklznewbz-1337 rank, that doesnt mean a thing if you really want to influence them. As far as I see it, we are all people, it is merely human nature to not want to be pushed around, that is why I suggested guidelines, not rules.
Next, I am going to be cruel, stating that "My rules are more complete" then something along the lines of "Be quiet newb, Im no control freak" is a little hypocritical. But as is with me posting my "Guidelines" I just wanted to voice my opinion, like everyone else here, so go ahead and say that you hate me, because I voiced my opinion, you can too.
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1. Floodbud - I see only one issue with the rules. They are pointless.
Im sorry, I dont wish to come off as a rude person - its not my style, unlike other people on this forum, however, I wish to tell you that...
a.Pretty much all of the rules are already common sense.
For example, "No feeding".
You need to understand the feeder isnt feeding intentionally, and is likely trying their best. Feeding isnt fun. Instead, just tell the UnnamedPlayers to stick together in groups.
b.Other rules, pretty much most people follow anyway;
Luci spamming counter-measures are enforced on a variety of servers, and as for "No Hacks", well, thats a bit like Teamkillinf - if you are found out, you WILL be banned.
c.Other rules, such as "No deconning", well, there is nothing you can really do about that other than working as a team to kick the deconner, or enforcing a designated builder system.
Other than that, a deconner doesnt care if the rule says "No deconning" - he will still do it anyway. Hell, whats the worst that can happen - he'll get kicked for 3 minutes ? Ooh ooh, even worse, he'll be banned for 3 Hours!
Deconners live above the law - they do it for fun. If there is no admin or counter-measures (Designated builder system) to enforce the rules, there is little the average player can do to avoid a deconner.
But yeah, there are some decent rules, like "No flaming".
Seriously, if a few of us acted just a little bit more civilized, the world would be a much better place.
I hope I didnt come off rude - I do not like to do so.
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2.Vindication, why the vendetta against PlayerOne ?
He is being kind, and yet for some unknown reason, you reject his advances for a treuce and neutrality by being rude, and flaming him.
Why ? You think it makes you look better ? Stop acting like a arse.
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This is the story of my life.
I got kicked from the beer-garden server and BANNED PERMANENTLY for deconning. I was a n00b and didn't know that what I was doing was bad. I think that issues like these need fixing. I will never decon again...and see, already I've gained some respect.
A_Total_noob, basically you just repeated what everyone else said, maybe you should read the rest of the thread. :wink: I appreciate it.
Thanks for not swearing. No, you're not rude.
I fed when I was a n00b--part of the learning process. TRUE feeding is doing it on purpose because your friend is on the other team.
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Lol Floodbud,
I too can can remember my dim and distant totally non-leet days, I couldnt understand things and deconned stuff cos I could, I hadnt got the hang of building at that stage. I used to think that Tyrants were absolutely huge and absolutely legendary and so damn hard to get. Now most off the magic of being new has worn off and Im a decent-ish player.