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Mods => Mod Releases => Gameplay Changing => Topic started by: f0rqu3 on April 10, 2007, 10:32:58 am
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for humans
you can spawn using "/class classname" command
classnames are
grenade, mgturret, abuild, abuildupg, level0, level1, level1upg, level2, level2upg, level3, level3upg, level4
and any human weapon name
for aliens
you can spawn as higher class
for example "/class level3" for goon
also any player can wallwalk and all buildables can be built on walls and ceiling
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Okay this is a serious question and I'm really curious wht this mod is about..
So we can spawn as a grenade and experience the heat of the battle directly as we're thrown into the alien's base ?
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Play it.
You can spawn as any alien class, you can spawn with any human weapon (-grenade), mgturret (broken), tesla, lockblob (you shoot them), and hive.
Play it.
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That sounds pretty awesome, how do I get hold of this mod, is it running on any servers?
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This mod rocks!!! :D I am creating a special bind for this mod :D
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download?
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This mod is currently running on benmachine's server, Benmachine's mod.
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Plague Bringer and Plague, lol.
Are you Plagues chaffeur Plague Bringer?
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Does benmachine do more crack then whitebear? :D
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Does benmachine do more crack then whitebear? :D
impossible :D
dodo
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This mod is currently running on benmachine's server, Benmachine's mod.
benmachines mod is not benmachines server! He didnt even know about it until later on he doesnt have a server for it.
+ im making a server for it he said i can
and again this mod is awsome but still very imcomplete, still in expermental stage
Good Luck Ben : :)
and dodo isnt benmachines mod ur server?
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benmachines insanity is Ben's server. It'll host the latest version whenever it's up. Benmachine's Mod is just a random server running his mod and then compaining about "ABUSE" while trying to play a "normal" game.
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basically, this mod is not for serious games. it's just for having a fun TK-fest.
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And biting dretches with a hooman :D
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basically, this mod is not for serious games. it's just for having a fun TK-fest.
I totally agree with you (QFT)! There are no limitations on joining a team so mostly all the players are joining the human side. Sometimes there are no aliens! And when you choose aliens, you'll get PWND :D
So this is a message to all the players there who complain about TKing:
This mod is for fun, and for who has the best skill to survive the machinegunners. Don't kick people who TK for fun because this mod is made for it!
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Wait aren't you the one who came in there and started shooting friendly buildings and teammates with a turret and kept getting kicked? o.0
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Does benmachine do more crack then whitebear? :D
impossible :D
dodo
I think crack is bad.
Ganja is something that will do but crack is deadly.
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my mod has a thread and I didn't even have to make it!
^_^
Anyway, the next release has been somewhat delayed by my accidental wiping of one of my hard drives (lol) but promised features include a fixed repeat rate on the mgturret, fixed mdriver kill messages, and spawning with battlesuits. Plus, if I can work it out, integration of a couple of UI icons durand was nice enough to make for me.
Plague Bringer is right, my server is called:
benmachine's insanity server
although because the server resources are pretty weak I only ever turn it on to distribute a new version or test something.
If anyone's interested, the reason I make this mod is purely to learn about the code of Tremulous by fiddling with things to see what they do. My intention is to eventually make, at least in parallel to this mod, a "serious" mod using some of the expertise I hope to develop in making this all work. One idea I have is looking into making proper wallturrets, buidable with jetpacks (since wallwalking humans are, in a serious context, impossible without serious and far-reaching modification of the game engine - look at http://v1.risujin.org/tremulous/#r4 for a somewhat more detailed explanation of why only cubic aliens can wallwalk), another is the long-awaited alien vs. alien game (although the fact that only grangers can hit a dretch without killing it is certainly going to make that an interesting proposition).
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my mod has a thread and I didn't even have to make it!
^_^
Anyway, the next release has been somewhat delayed by my accidental wiping of one of my hard drives (lol) but promised features include a fixed repeat rate on the mgturret, fixed mdriver kill messages, and spawning with battlesuits. Plus, if I can work it out, integration of a couple of UI icons durand was nice enough to make for me.
Plague Bringer is right, my server is called:
benmachine's insanity server
although because the server resources are pretty weak I only ever turn it on to distribute a new version or test something.
If anyone's interested, the reason I make this mod is purely to learn about the code of Tremulous by fiddling with things to see what they do. My intention is to eventually make, at least in parallel to this mod, a "serious" mod using some of the expertise I hope to develop in making this all work. One idea I have is looking into making proper wallturrets, buidable with jetpacks (since wallwalking humans are, in a serious context, impossible without serious and far-reaching modification of the game engine - look at http://v1.risujin.org/tremulous/#r4 for a somewhat more detailed explanation of why only cubic aliens can wallwalk), another is the long-awaited alien vs. alien game (although the fact that only grangers can hit a dretch without killing it is certainly going to make that an interesting proposition).
ben rember me?
i was going to make a server for your mod but i cant get it right does any 1 know how?
ps. i got the game.qvm in the vms file, is that right?
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hey, anyway i could get that vm file to host on my server? i love that mod so much! thanks! (Good job benmachine!)
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ben rember me?
i was going to make a server for your mod but i cant get it right does any 1 know how?
ps. i got the game.qvm in the vms file, is that right?
Yes I do remember you - iirc you kept asking me about setting up a server but I kept getting distracted and never finished - sorry about that.
The thing about making a benmachine's mod server is that, because it has been backported, tjw's tremded does not work with it. Whether backporting is necessary and what I need to do to make the qvm work with the usual tremded have not been my priorities, to be honest, and for my server I use a tremded I compiled myself (I can't compile for windows, so you're on your own there). My advice is as follows: either a) wait until I've finished my current projects and can get to work on making it easier to run or b) ask darkdodo how he did it.
In summary: the usual methods of server running won't work, so ask darkdodo or wait a few days.
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I'd just like to throw out a little support for benmachine's mod. I thought it was pretty inventive, and fun to use, even if it takes awhile to figure out how to use it all.
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Now, replace the painsaw model with dretch, perhaps with your hands shoved up their asses, add a boxing animation and bingo.
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updated now all classes can have any weapon
join humans
/class level0 chaingun
a dretch with chaingun
you can also decon players if you have granger weapon(abuild) or construction kit (ckit)
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you can also decon players if you have granger weapon(abuild) or construction kit (ckit)
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Hi guys, just a brief request for some media I can't easily create myself:
Icons for hive and lockblob weapons
HUDs: alien hud needs to be modified to properly show clips and ammo, human hud needs a wallwalking display. I hacked a ammo count into the alien HUD, but it's ugly and has no clip count.
The only repayment I can offer is inclusion in !info credits
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Made some simple icons for hive and lockblob. Pm me an e-mail addy or other contact info.
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Made some simple icons for hive and lockblob. Pm me an e-mail addy or other contact info.
I didnt know you were into gfx
he is mostly on irc where you can talk
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version 0017 out.
Now you can build lcannon turrets, flamer turrets, prifle turrets and grenade turrets. Also prifle has a secondary attack, which heals (like the love relic in relics mod). Also, a lot of bugs were fixed, although some of them are fixed on mac os x compilations only.
dodo
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I dont like the decon timer... it rly sucks... besides deconning isnt even a problem... put it back rofl :cry:
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version 0017 out.
Now you can build lcannon turrets, flamer turrets, prifle turrets and grenade turrets. Also prifle has a secondary attack, which heals (like the love relic in relics mod). Also, a lot of bugs were fixed, although some of them are fixed on mac os x compilations only.
dodo
pwns :D
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version 0017 out.
Now you can build lcannon turrets, flamer turrets, prifle turrets and grenade turrets. Also prifle has a secondary attack, which heals (like the love relic in relics mod). Also, a lot of bugs were fixed, although some of them are fixed on mac os x compilations only.
dodo
pwns :D
Indeed!
Still, compiling it on Linux gives out errors, and with TJW's tremded (which should be compatible) some bugs are still there (scoring system doesn't work, you just see 0's all the time etc).
dodo
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You can not only build the lcannon turrets etc... but every weapon turret, like shotgun turret, blaster turret, or lasgun turret :).
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my mistake :P
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You can not only build the lcannon turrets etc... but every weapon turret, like shotgun turret, blaster turret, or lasgun turret :).
Flamer turrets are still invisible though :(
If anyone can work that one out, they get a big hug. It's totally beyond me.
Also about the compilation errors: dodo, post me one, so the forum can work on it. There are people a lot cleverer than me around here.
In other news: I seem to have credited Survivor without actually including his icons :<
edit: no, I just checked, I've left the credit out too. They appear to have missed this release.
Sorry about that, I'll look into it later. Also sorry I couldn't reply to your mail, something was up with my sending from that address. Just to check - how would you like to be credited?
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Benmachine, could you make it so that turrets cant damage other turrets of that are on a team?
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Benmachine, could you make it so that turrets cant damage other turrets of that are on a team?
I could.
I'm not going to though.
Try g_friendlyBuildableFire 0
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Whenever i type in /build flamer it doesnt do anything... do I have to put turret at end?
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I was confused also.
/build mgturret flamer
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I just played benmachine's mod and I have to point out that it owns!!! :D
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ok then, here is the error i get when compiling it on linux:
gcc -Wall -fno-strict-aliasing -Wimplicit -Wstrict-prototypes -pipe -DUSE_OPENAL=1 -DUSE_CURL=1 -DUSE_CURL_DLOPEN=1 -DUSE_SDL_VIDEO=1 -DUSE_SDL_SOUND=1 -I/usr/include/SDL -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D_REENTRANT -m32 -DUSE_LOCAL_HEADERS=1 -DSVN_VERSION=\"1.1.0_SVN939M\" -DNDEBUG -O3 -march=i586 -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math -funroll-loops -falign-loops=2 -falign-jumps=2 -falign-functions=2 -fstrength-reduce -MMD -fPIC -o build/release-linux-x86/base/game/g_team.o -c src/game/g_team.c
gcc -Wall -fno-strict-aliasing -Wimplicit -Wstrict-prototypes -pipe -DUSE_OPENAL=1 -DUSE_CURL=1 -DUSE_CURL_DLOPEN=1 -DUSE_SDL_VIDEO=1 -DUSE_SDL_SOUND=1 -I/usr/include/SDL -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D_REENTRANT -m32 -DUSE_LOCAL_HEADERS=1 -DSVN_VERSION=\"1.1.0_SVN939M\" -DNDEBUG -O3 -march=i586 -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math -funroll-loops -falign-loops=2 -falign-jumps=2 -falign-functions=2 -fstrength-reduce -MMD -fPIC -o build/release-linux-x86/base/game/g_trigger.o -c src/game/g_trigger.c
gcc -Wall -fno-strict-aliasing -Wimplicit -Wstrict-prototypes -pipe -DUSE_OPENAL=1 -DUSE_CURL=1 -DUSE_CURL_DLOPEN=1 -DUSE_SDL_VIDEO=1 -DUSE_SDL_SOUND=1 -I/usr/include/SDL -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D_REENTRANT -m32 -DUSE_LOCAL_HEADERS=1 -DSVN_VERSION=\"1.1.0_SVN939M\" -DNDEBUG -O3 -march=i586 -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math -funroll-loops -falign-loops=2 -falign-jumps=2 -falign-functions=2 -fstrength-reduce -MMD -fPIC -o build/release-linux-x86/base/game/g_utils.o -c src/game/g_utils.c
gcc -Wall -fno-strict-aliasing -Wimplicit -Wstrict-prototypes -pipe -DUSE_OPENAL=1 -DUSE_CURL=1 -DUSE_CURL_DLOPEN=1 -DUSE_SDL_VIDEO=1 -DUSE_SDL_SOUND=1 -I/usr/include/SDL -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D_REENTRANT -m32 -DUSE_LOCAL_HEADERS=1 -DSVN_VERSION=\"1.1.0_SVN939M\" -DNDEBUG -O3 -march=i586 -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math -funroll-loops -falign-loops=2 -falign-jumps=2 -falign-functions=2 -fstrength-reduce -MMD -fPIC -o build/release-linux-x86/base/game/g_maprotation.o -c src/game/g_maprotation.c
gcc -Wall -fno-strict-aliasing -Wimplicit -Wstrict-prototypes -pipe -DUSE_OPENAL=1 -DUSE_CURL=1 -DUSE_CURL_DLOPEN=1 -DUSE_SDL_VIDEO=1 -DUSE_SDL_SOUND=1 -I/usr/include/SDL -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D_REENTRANT -m32 -DUSE_LOCAL_HEADERS=1 -DSVN_VERSION=\"1.1.0_SVN939M\" -DNDEBUG -O3 -march=i586 -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math -funroll-loops -falign-loops=2 -falign-jumps=2 -falign-functions=2 -fstrength-reduce -MMD -fPIC -o build/release-linux-x86/base/game/g_ptr.o -c src/game/g_ptr.c
gcc -Wall -fno-strict-aliasing -Wimplicit -Wstrict-prototypes -pipe -DUSE_OPENAL=1 -DUSE_CURL=1 -DUSE_CURL_DLOPEN=1 -DUSE_SDL_VIDEO=1 -DUSE_SDL_SOUND=1 -I/usr/include/SDL -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D_REENTRANT -m32 -DUSE_LOCAL_HEADERS=1 -DSVN_VERSION=\"1.1.0_SVN939M\" -DNDEBUG -O3 -march=i586 -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math -funroll-loops -falign-loops=2 -falign-jumps=2 -falign-functions=2 -fstrength-reduce -MMD -fPIC -o build/release-linux-x86/base/game/g_weapon.o -c src/game/g_weapon.c
gcc -Wall -fno-strict-aliasing -Wimplicit -Wstrict-prototypes -pipe -DUSE_OPENAL=1 -DUSE_CURL=1 -DUSE_CURL_DLOPEN=1 -DUSE_SDL_VIDEO=1 -DUSE_SDL_SOUND=1 -I/usr/include/SDL -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D_REENTRANT -m32 -DUSE_LOCAL_HEADERS=1 -DSVN_VERSION=\"1.1.0_SVN939M\" -DNDEBUG -O3 -march=i586 -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math -funroll-loops -falign-loops=2 -falign-jumps=2 -falign-functions=2 -fstrength-reduce -MMD -fPIC -o build/release-linux-x86/base/game/g_admin.o -c src/game/g_admin.c
make[1]: *** No rule to make target `build/release-linux-x86/base/game/g_bot.o', needed by `build/release-linux-x86/base/gamex86.so'. Stop.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dominic/trunk'
make: *** [build_release] Error 2
everything patched cleanly, its svn939 with benmachine0017.patch only.
Also, get the same error trying to compile it on my server (debian etch)
and yes, my makefile has g_bot.o:
gentoo trunk # svn diff Makefile
Index: Makefile
===================================================================
--- Makefile (revision 939)
+++ Makefile (working copy)
@@ -1406,6 +1406,7 @@
$(B)/base/game/g_ptr.o \
$(B)/base/game/g_weapon.o \
$(B)/base/game/g_admin.o \
+ $(B)/base/game/g_bot.o \
\
$(B)/base/qcommon/q_math.o \
$(B)/base/qcommon/q_shared.o
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:O what is g_bot.c
sorry I thought everyone was building qvm files
edit: do you have g_bot.c?
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ben just pointed to me that svn diffs dont include new files, so it's not in the patch >_>
and no, i dont have it, ben is just sending me it :P
dodo
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Yeah, my bad. Thanks to kevlarman's ever-helpful advice, it should be in all patches from now on.
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isn't ver 0019 out nowi was playing on a server with it and the tesla weapon doesn't work so i can't use lightning on opponents lol hive is fun no targeting needed need acid and tesla to be added acid would be fun
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ok: when you join a team, before you spawn type:
/class than for what you look like type, than for what you are/shoot type here.
Example: /class level2 hive= marauder with a hive. or
/class human_base level3upg human that is an adv. Dragoon.
allways /class first. Human_ whatever for human base or bsuit, thats all I think. Than level#
levels=
abuild=granger
0=dretch
1=basilisk
1upg= adv. basilisk
2=marauder
2upg=adv. marauder
3=dragoon
3upg= adv. dragoon.
4=tyrant
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Weapons=
rifle=""
construction kit=ckit
Painsaw=psaw
shotgun=""
las gun= not sure lgun?
mass driver=mdriver?
chaingun=""
Pulse Rifle=prifle
Flamer=""
Lucifer Cannon=lcannon
Grenade=""
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Building weapons=
hive=""
Machinegun Turret= mgturret
tesla=""?
No acid tube or trapper I think.
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Other=
rgun= shotgun that shoots blue pulse.
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Ckit decons people.
Everyone/thing can run on walls, and build ables can be build almost anywhere. (Including ceiling.)
Can't think of any thing else.
Just trying to put down all the info some place.
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Trapper = lockblob.
And wtf is an rgun. Raygun?
o_o
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Trapper = lockblob.
And wtf is an rgun. Raygun?
o_o
Riot gun. So called because it knocks enemies away without damaging them.
It didn't work that well, I'm trying to think of ways in can be improved.
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make a trapper thing to make em stick after move ennoying now lol
and how use super nade admins are using!!!!!
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Trapperturret
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not like that i was adding to riot gun thing
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make a trapper thing to make em stick after move ennoying now lol
and how use super nade admins are using!!!!!
you've answered your own question :roll:
you have to be an admin :)
dodo
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Can someone please host a download? I used to have it, but I had to reinstall Trem, and now I can't find a server thats hosting it :(
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[Derelict]Benmachine's mod is the server name, although it crashes ever-so-often, ask ben why that is :P
dodo
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Where can I download this mod?? Direct likt for IE???? Please upload it or host it in a website. PLZ PLZ PLZ! Thanks, ViRUS
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ok u see..ben..ive got ur data n vms..i dun have ur game.qvm ..where can i get it?!
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- DarkEnix"]ok u see..ben..ive got ur data n vms..i dun have ur game.qvm ..where can i get it?!
http://www.bandstand.org.uk/~benm/trem/wwwBase/benmachine/game.qvm
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lol..thx..it rox..!! yeah..abt this..i oni get the version 20 to work or somehow..abt 21..i got an error..n 22..i got clien/server mismatch stuff..anything new in there?
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- DarkEnix"]lol..thx..it rox..!! yeah..abt this..i oni get the version 20 to work or somehow..abt 21..i got an error..n 22..i got clien/server mismatch stuff..anything new in there?
Yup. Are you doing +set fs_game benmachine
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Does anyone else get a weird yellow error ingame when trying to play this mod? Also, it doesn't let me beuild anything but repeaters, OM/RC and Medi/Arm.
It also has this weird effect as if I am bobbing through the ground, up and down over and over.
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- DarkEnix"]lol..thx..it rox..!! yeah..abt this..i oni get the version 20 to work or somehow..abt 21..i got an error..n 22..i got clien/server mismatch stuff..anything new in there?
Yup. Are you doing +set fs_game benmachine
yeah..if not..got any other way?
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i cant find a server that host this :(
little help?
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Nobody does host it because it regularly crashes for no reason :)
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Nobody does host it because it regularly crashes for no reason :)
For no reason?
Generally the mod has many great things but the less powerful stuff is never used because you need to fight hardest to survive this cheat fest. People would most likely play it more if there were stage/cost/bp restrictions.
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Oi Ben we have your Mod hosted only I never put it up unless by request D= No random crashes, only the new one crashes a lot. Think version 0020 or so is quite stable.
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Oi Ben we have your Mod hosted only I never put it up unless by request D= No random crashes, only the new one crashes a lot. Think version 0020 or so is quite stable.
you host it?
Nice server name please.
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(Cebt)Milking Grounds
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thanks ;D
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download link please
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download link please
Instead of spamming "download link please" on three different threads, how about reading the thread itself - the answers are contained within.
(Hint: The link is in this one, another one you replied to the link was removed until the author provides the source, and the third is an idea that doesn't exist in code yet)
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Do i need to compile this?
I dled the QVM ..
nothing o.O?
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you can decon people :D
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I got how to launch a server [Lan]
I use the Cmd.exe :
tremded.exe +set dedicated 2 +exec server.cfg +set fs_game benmachine?
Oh does the qvm go into the hidden VM Folder???
EDIT!: YAY it works?
When i try to connect it my server it says .. "Client/Server Mismatch. Base/benmachine" ???????????????
Am i missing a file to put in there or somthing?
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The QVM does go into the hidden VM folder, yes.
The hidden base folder should also have the pk3s in it.
The error you quoted means that either the server is loading the wrong game.qvm or the client is loading the wrong pk3s.
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well i was looking into something and i found at that this mod has /n for newlines plz explain this to me further
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sexy mod
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Useless necro.