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Mods => Mod Releases => Gameplay Changing => Topic started by: Rawr on April 16, 2007, 01:42:08 am
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This mod involves numerous little upgrades that you can find throughout a map. Things such as, Radiation, Spray and Pay, A/G Boots etc etc.
But, the only thing I have noticed about this, when you download via autodownload, it will not allow you to go into some other servers D:
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http://v1.risujin.org/tremulous/#relic
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Oh noes! Why did you make a thread for my secret mod!
But, the only thing I have noticed about this, when you download via autodownload, it will not allow you to go into some other servers D:
There may be a server that is running relic mod out of the base folder. Yell at whoever is running it, that server is not properly configured! (... and no, mine is configured right.)
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Oh noes! Why did you make a thread for my secret mod!
But, the only thing I have noticed about this, when you download via autodownload, it will not allow you to go into some other servers D:
There may be a server that is running relic mod out of the base folder. Yell at whoever is running it, that server is not properly configured! (... and no, mine is configured right.)
Well, I searched all through my base folder, as well as my base2 folder.
Heres a screenie of my base folder:
(http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3815/blahzorlv8.jpg)
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Well, I searched all through my base folder, as well as my base2 folder.
None of my PK3s are in your base folder. Your problems are most likely caused by interference from the TJW and MG VM and data PK3s. Delete them and the "common-" PK3s.
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the regen relic should work faster on aliens, it's more of a liability than anything ATM. Ideally, I should be able to strafe a base, hang back a bit (without leaving the scene entirely) and go right back on strafing at full health.
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ammo relic for dretch rofl MAO
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Vampire relic = Ftw
I got 450 hp for saw fighting with a tyrant after killing the om =D
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Vampire relic = Ftw
I got 450 hp for saw fighting with a tyrant after killing the om =D
It is fair though ... you can no longer heal normally with the Vampire relic.
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bs + painsaw/flamer + vampire must be best combo for humies.
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Come try the new Goomba relic on my server. :)
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Come try the new Goomba relic on my server. :)
:D great! dont DL pr0n while we playing <3
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what does this "goomba" relic do?
in fact, can you post what all your relics in the mod are?
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just visit:
http://v1.risujin.org/tremulous/#relic
that relic sounds fun. Now I can play mario with marauderer ^^.
Now I need ability to shoot fire balls from taunt button.
Could you change the "Ice" to skates? So your speed would be lot higher but you would always move like on slick shader.
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But, the only thing I have noticed about this, when you download via autodownload, it will not allow you to go into some other servers D:
Yea I have got this mod running for GoDz server and I got it where you can download off server, but you have to have downloads enabled.
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If the goomba relic turns you into a mario, can the player model/skin be changed too? (at least for hummies)
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And taunt to "It's me! ... Mario!"
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wow so many mods, so little time :D
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Risujin,
What do you think about taking some of the better Relics (Antigrav, Radiation, Vampire & DamageX), nerfing some of the bad side effects, buffing the efficiency and making them available to the Aliens, while giving the Humans some new weapons?
whitebear's got some starter models going on the nades thread.
Aliens get Relics for Multikill, Headshot, Humiliation, Dreadnought. Humans get Weapons when at least two-thirds of team has crossed Alien 'build line'. Weapons: Plasma Mortar, Plasma Gatling Cannon, SpiderBot Launcher, EMProxMine Launcher. Multikill: must kill three Humans within thirty seconds. Headshot: must damage Human in head, causing death in one blow. Humiliation: must kill one Human two stages above twice in two minutes. Dreadnought: must kill at least half of the players on the Human team at least once each. Effects last three minutes or until dead. Antigrav is jumpboost, not flying. Radiation causes damage mostly to Humans, slightly to fellow Aliens. Vampire allows attacker to replenish health by damaging foe. DamageX is a slight damage increase (x1.25).
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Nah. damage, vampire, radiation & antigrav are main relics used in UT2k4 and they are most fun unless you count mini size relic (wich is not in trem)
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love relic
-> love goon
-> love tyrant
*hug*
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And taunt to "It's me! ... Mario!"
Nintendo would sue me into a pile of burning rubble.
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And taunt to "It's me! ... Mario!"
Nintendo would sue me into a pile of burning rubble.
Has that stopped anyone in the past? (you don't need to answer this question)
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Thank you Risujin !!!!!!!!
Like Risujin's one, $GoDz$ server, FBQC, bricosoft is running relic mod,
No stats for now, will be if they are some players ...
\connect www.bricosoft.com
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that is so much fucking fun.
we gotta get a MG relic server up.
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My personal vamp record... <3
(http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/586/shot0150lr4.jpg)
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Well my base folder is here:
(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u44/DinocoX/untitled-1.jpg)
k lol i have been wondering how to creat a mod it is kinda confusing to me. that'll be all
And also i have autodownload dats why i have kinda maps
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My personal vamp record... <3
Oh dear, do I need to nerf that relic again or should we start a scoreboard? xD
Please don't post any more screenshots of your base folder in here, this isn't a screenshot thread.
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I don't understand people posting screen shots of their tremulous/base folder or any other folder that is.
less data needed in ascii version :P
You rly need to nerf the vamp relic ^^
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I see the relic mod is really popular, I think I should up the players to 14.
People must like it, cause everytime I go into my server it is packed.
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That was me after throwing 9-10 nades in the base right before the game ended...
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and you should change the relic mod 4 to relic mod 5 because I tried to look for number 4 but all there was number 5 in the link.
And whenever I try to join Godz relic, I have to wait for 5 min downloading relic mod #4.
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Noticed two things :
- cant build at the emplacement of a relic
- relic appears with reload sound (cliclic), a "pop" will suit better :)
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- cant build at the emplacement of a relic
You also can't build on corpses ... some kind of SVN paranoia...
- relic appears with reload sound (cliclic), a "pop" will suit better :)
Relics don't make an appearance sound. What you hear is probably the old relic disappearing. I guess I could fix the sound though. Player disconnect pop though..?
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Wow, for an idea that was supposed to be so non-Tremulous, this has really generated quite a bit of attention.
@whitebear: I don't understand. Please explain. "Nah." What?
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Wow, for an idea that was supposed to be so non-Tremulous, this has really generated quite a bit of attention.
For inexplicable reasons visible only to someone who stays awake for 36 hours straight with a fever, the mod is somehow fun.
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Can we push goombah upstream into the base?
kthx
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Wow, for an idea that was supposed to be so non-Tremulous, this has really generated quite a bit of attention.
For inexplicable reasons visible only to someone who stays awake for 36 hours straight with a fever, the mod is somehow fun.
Ris, You should be proud of your self... This mod is going to kick tremulous community's ass and leave a mark.
Btw. Can you give some details of how does goombah count the damage?
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Well, I searched all through my base folder, as well as my base2 folder.
None of my PK3s are in your base folder. Your problems are most likely caused by interference from the TJW and MG VM and data PK3s. Delete them and the "common-" PK3s.
I deleted all those, and it doesnt work.
I deleted everything to do with relic, and I have the same message but it's domination.
I delete everything to do with domonation and the startup console gives me a UI failed to load message.
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First domination, then this :D
Risujin, you're brilliant.
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First domination, then this :D
Risujin, you're brilliant.
first balance, then domination, now this!
liar ^^
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Wow, for an idea that was supposed to be so non-Tremulous, this has really generated quite a bit of attention.
For inexplicable reasons visible only to someone who stays awake for 36 hours straight with a fever, the mod is somehow fun.
Ris, You should be proud of your self... This mod is going to kick tremulous community's ass and leave a mark.
Btw. Can you give some details of how does goombah count the damage?
Arrgh! They fixed the SuperDrive but disabled my Bluetooth! Idiots!! I still can't try Relics.
Tremulous and the trackpad=wrist cramp
Edit/Bump/Resuscitate
Risujin,
I now have Bluetooth again. Yay. I DL'd the HoRmod today and even played a "single-player" round on ATCS. That "last relic you'll ever pick up" is nasty. Does it just last for that spawning? When have people been playing? Let me know when you'll be on, or when it usually has players, and I'll check it out. It looks really fun. I like how enemy buildables pop out Relics. I can't wait to see enemy players do that. The default bases were crazy. The human one was one smoking node, the reactor, and one turret on the lower level pointing up at the Human base. The Alien one was crammed with acid tubes (like 7), and had about 3 eggs, plus the OM. As a Human builder I had 82 bp remaining at original spawning. Did you tweak out every map like that or did I wander onto your server after some other player left? Looks cool. Let's play.
PlayerOne likes a little variety
especially in mods for games which are mods themselves
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Who plays this Relics mod and when are you on?
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Goomba uses the fall damage calculation method with a higher constant multiplier. For aliens, having more max-hp makes you heavier and for humans the bsuit makes you as heavy as a tyrant. Drop a longer distance to do more damage.
Who plays this Relics mod and when are you on?
My server has been empty lately. You have to join and wait for it to fill.
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Goomba uses the fall damage calculation method with a higher constant multiplier. For aliens, having more max-hp makes you heavier and for humans the bsuit makes you as heavy as a tyrant. Drop a longer distance to do more damage.
Who plays this Relics mod and when are you on?
My server has been empty lately. You have to join and wait for it to fill.
yes joining and waiting helps a lot
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Goomba uses the fall damage calculation method with a higher constant multiplier. For aliens, having more max-hp makes you heavier and for humans the bsuit makes you as heavy as a tyrant. Drop a longer distance to do more damage.
Who plays this Relics mod and when are you on?
My server has been empty lately. You have to join and wait for it to fill.
yes joining and waiting helps a lot
Almost as much fun as idling in a chat channel? (Anybody remember that thread?) I didn't get the Goomba, because I picked up the dreaded Last Relic. But, seriously, Ris, PM me when you will be watching the server farm. I'll stop by tonight. Anybody up for HoRmod madness? whitebear? Plague Bringer? f0rqu3? TRaK? TtDM? Greudin? holyknight? Superpie? Devil? Dino? yetshi? raWr? Khalsa? Death_First? _Equilibrium_? Anybody?
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every time i play it the vms tries to redownload to my base folder instead of my relic folder and then i have to move it to play somewhere else >_>
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I am currently having problems with my network connection that I can't play much...
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every time i play it the vms tries to redownload to my base folder instead of my relic folder and then i have to move it to play somewhere else >_>
This is wrong. I think one of the relic servers is not configured properly. Probably the Godz one which is still running version 4!
If you are looking to fill a server, please go to QuakeNet IRC and spam either #tremulous or #mercenariesguild. Its the only way we get Domination games going. :)
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HaHa, nah I update the mod everytime you release a new one.
Yea your probley right that it is not configured correctly, but I got it the best I can, I mean I get alot of traffic through my server, and I am going to update the players to 14 slots.
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Devil make sure its in the 'relic' folder and that there are no relic PK3s in the base folder of your server.
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I annihilated an entire human base with the goomba relic, the reactor was a bit over a goon's height beneath the cieling and I pounced on it and near-instantly blew it up.
Just for the hell of it Ima say that at the moment I'm using the Kororaa distro I downloaded and I love it . . .
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I have updated the GoDz server to version 6 of Risujin's Relic mod and it is correctly installed and you do not have to re-download the mod everytime you enter the server. So the server has been updated to 10 players with 2 private slots, and hopefully you guys will have a great time in there.
So thank you Risujin for setting the server up correctly.
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Hey, Risujin. I was playing this mod for a while, and I feel is sorely needs some way to turn off auto pickup clientside.
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I have made a command to disable relics and enable them, and also add all unknown relics so that you dont know what your picking up. Yea pretty simple.
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I think you should be able to drop them... I can give you the list of ones that should be able to be dropped... and they're supposed to be either weaker, and no downsides, or stronger, and downsides... Right now they are a bit too weak for the bad sides they give...
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I have made a command to disable relics and enable them, and also add all unknown relics so that you dont know what your picking up. Yea pretty simple.
You can control how many relics of each type (including the unknown relic) spawn via the g_relic* cvars. Go to http://risujin.org/tremulous#relic for the full list. You can also set up per-map settings with g_mapConfigs (see the Domination layouts zip for an example).
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We played today with about ten or twelve people on. Niveus. Funny as all get out. I like the little trails. Khalsa, who said the mod sucks, was healing me incessantly with a flamethrower, with little hearts flowing out of his avatar like it was Valentine's Day. Then he or Bringer was luci-healing the base. Echo: "Our Base is Under Attack!!". No, it's not, it's the flamer/painsaw/luci-healers. LOL'd. A lot.
Painsaw Healer (http://web.mac.com/onestagehand/iWeb/Site/Blog/8A31DE5B-38D8-4873-A1E6-7B71CC78A0DA.html)
The trails of relic symbols are kewl. Battles are 50mfg101eleventy-one1118]!!! Going to play again, right now-ish. See you there.
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My server (and website) are now both properly configured to allow WWW downloads! \o/
If you are hosting a relics server that runs the stock maps only (I do not host maps), you can:
set sv_wwwDownload 1
set sv_wwwBaseURL "http://v1.risujin.org/pub/tremulous"
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Ight np, hmm man my server is un-popular now. dammit, lol.. Risujin you stole them all from me, lol j/k. Well anyways thanks Risujin for that link.
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We really need a way to prevent auto picking up relics when we already own one. Our players are so pissed off for the fact that they have to move while dodging the relics around them if they want to keep theirs. We need to be able to set a button for replacing relics so we can have less worry about picking up heal or ice out of nowhere.
Also, vampire relic is overpowered when used with chaingun or luci, you basically never die with it. 1 person can pretty much take out an alien base with 150bp if the vampire falls into the hand of a good human player.
And, something has to be done about invisible so that people can't use it to run away as the last resort and force a draw game. (Add a time limit for that maybe?)
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We really need a way to prevent auto picking up relics when we already own one. Our players are so pissed off for the fact that they have to move while evading the relics around them if they want to keep theirs. We need a button to pick up relics so we can have less worry about picking up heal or ice out of nowhere.
Also, vampire relic is overpowered when used with chaingun or luci, you basically never die with it. 1 person can pretty much take out an alien base with 150bp if the vampire falls into the hand of a good human player.
And, something has to be done about invisible so that people can't use it to run away as the last resort and force a draw game. (Add a time limit for that maybe?)
I think the point of the relic mod is to force a dynamic changing game, if you don't want to lose your relic, don't walk into another one. If you can dodge aliens/humans, you can walk around a relic.
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I think the point of the relic mod is to force a dynamic changing game, if you don't want to lose your relic, don't walk into another one. If you can dodge aliens/humans, you can walk around a relic.
Right, but there are also times that randomness kills the whole game. For once someone was using heal relic to repair his own base with nade and luci in SD and he suddenly got his relic replaced after dropping a nade and destroyed his own armoury.
To keep the game dynamic we can have a time limit on owning a relic so that people have to try different relics and can't just keep their favorite relic for life. Also things would be a lot more balanced that way. I just afked near the human base for dinner with invisible and after I came back I was still alive. I found myself with full evo and my team s3 so that I evolved into adv.goon (still invisible) and destroyed 2 armouries at once. Pretty lame if you ask me, but possible.
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UT2k4 did not force to change relic and there was a server side command to disable relic toss button.
We could have new bind:
/+RelicToss
and server command to disable it:
/g_RelicToss 1/0
By default evil relic could not be tossed and it disapeared after 60 secs
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UT2k4 did not force to change relic and there was a server side command to disable relic toss button.
Oh really? Well then there is quite a bit of precedent. :)
By default evil relic could not be tossed and it disapeared after 60 secs
Well I'll have to think of a genuine evil relic then...
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UT2k4 did not force to change relic and there was a server side command to disable relic toss button.
We could have new bind:
/+RelicToss
and server command to disable it:
/g_RelicToss 1/0
By default evil relic could not be tossed and it disapeared after 60 secs
Well, I would like a new bind for picking up a relic rather than tossing one. Tossing isn't really that good to the relic game play as people will always toss the relic they don't like and only 3 or 4 types of relic will be used. I want to see people fighting in both favorable and unfavorable condition and make use of every relics they can find in the game.
Rather, what I am suggesting is a bind to swap relic just to get rid of the annoyance of having relic swapped unintentionally and need to spend 2 seconds just to swap it back, this "feature" doesn't change anything but is just annoying.
And for the game to be really dynamic, I suggest to have every relic to disappear after a certain time, like 60 seconds, so people actually have to move around the map to find relics and re-newing them. There are just too much jet campers with x2 and invisible goon behind corners making the camping problem even worse. They just never lose their relics and have no need to move. It is even better to be able to set the time server-side for a relic on a player to disappear and players have a timer to show the time left for a relic to expire.
Invisible should be more like "chameleon" rather than "cloaking". It should be more visible while moving and less visible while being stationary...
Oh, and I forgot to report two "bugs".
1. Adv.goon with ammo relic can save up to 6 barbs and still have them after swapping another relic. I just have 6 barbs with x2 and insta-killed a reactor 8)
2. The resurrection relic can be used to "telefrag" people if you resurrect while someone walk on you (invade personal space) and human has no ammo after resurrection, which is useless for human to have this relic as he is likely to double-feed.
btw, according to our players, the immune relic is less than being bad just to avoid picking up ice and reverse in the heat of battle. :D
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I think whole idea of possibility to choose new relic while holding is bad. And g_relictoss 0 would sertainly be used by server that agree with me.
Relic immunity would be sertainly evil relic this way since you are forced to stay normal ^^
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Grab a psaw, bsuit, ressur, die on the om, and own.
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I think whole idea of possibility to choose new relic while holding is bad. And g_relictoss 0 would sertainly be used by server that agree with me.
Relic immunity would be sertainly evil relic this way since you are forced to stay normal ^^
Immunity is far from being bad considering there are so many bad relics out there. Ice, reverse, low gravity, builder etc can cost you if you pick them up during the heat of battle. Since most relics has negative effect to compensate its positive effect, it is not really that different to be with or without one..I would rather pick up an immune relic and steal a base since I always pick up "bad" relics when I destroy a structure. It is also annoying to find that I can't raid an empty base because there are bad relics blocking the entrance..
I just invaded two people's personal space with tyrant and resurrection relic today. Dying right on the medi and killed 2. Great fun. 8)
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UT2k4 did not force to change relic and there was a server side command to disable relic toss button.
Umm... Risujin, remember i told u about this?? I told u that you can toss it and it doesnt force anyone to pick up a relic, unless you toss it... Gosh memory is so flawed lol
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Well, I would like a new bind for picking up a relic rather than tossing one.
There isn't that much of a distinction. Basically you either let people choose relics or force pickups. How many relics are you running on your server? What is g_relics? I keep it low, 8 on ATCS and 12 on larger maps. I do get complaints about auto-pickup on my server but I think it is manageable.
And for the game to be really dynamic, I suggest to have every relic to disappear after a certain time, like 60 seconds, so people actually have to move around the map to find relics and re-newing them.
That's an interesting idea.
Invisible should be more like "chameleon" rather than "cloaking". It should be more visible while moving and less visible while being stationary...
It kind of already is. I don't know why you mentioned invisible goons because larger aliens (larger than basi basically) are pretty easy to spot.
1. Adv.goon with ammo relic can save up to 6 barbs and still have them after swapping another relic. I just have 6 barbs with x2 and insta-killed a reactor 8)
I knew this bug would come back. :)
2. The resurrection relic can be used to "telefrag" people if you resurrect while someone walk on you
That's a feature. 8)
(invade personal space) and human has no ammo after resurrection, which is useless for human to have this relic as he is likely to double-feed.
That's odd. Is there a specific gun this happens with? I can't reproduce it. Are you sure you didn't die without ammo?
btw, according to our players, the immune relic is less than being bad just to avoid picking up ice and reverse in the heat of battle. :D
I've heard that as well. The immunity relic is another relic, its not supposed to be all bad. :)
Grab a psaw, bsuit, ressur, die on the om, and own.
I looked into this, if you die inside of a building and resurrect you do not kill the building. You do get stuck though. :)
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In UT2k4 resurection relic works bit difrently. It spawns you from random spawn point with same loadout. This means no kill or death is counted by game.
For dummies: You teleport to spawnpoint and gain full health when you are about to die.
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At about 66% of the first loading bar in tremulous, after joining the relic server, by computer boots me out saying something along the lines of only uncompressed BMP files...etc.
I'm on gentoo, so this could be a shared library missing or something, but i don't think so.
any ideas as to why i can't connect?
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Grab a psaw, bsuit, ressur, die on the om, and own.
I looked into this, if you die inside of a building and resurrect you do not kill the building. You do get stuck though. :)
Yeah, that's the point, complete ownage of the OM from inside it.
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Grab a psaw, bsuit, ressur, die on the om, and own.
I looked into this, if you die inside of a building and resurrect you do not kill the building. You do get stuck though. :)
Yeah, that's the point, complete ownage of the OM from inside it.
OK, let's go there and play right now!
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There isn't that much of a distinction. Basically you either let people choose relics or force pickups. How many relics are you running on your server? What is g_relics? I keep it low, 8 on ATCS and 12 on larger maps. I do get complaints about auto-pickup on my server but I think it is manageable.
My server runs g_relic 12. And relics can be sometimes at place that is hard to avoid. The main problem is that I often get my relic swapped at the enemy base when I was busy fighting structures. It seems destroyed buildings generate relics and they could serve as good...roadblocks.
Avoid auto picking up and tossing a relic are very different. People should always find a relic to replace his own if he doesn't want it, but not the ability to toss every relics he doesn't like. I just want to see replacing a relic could be done on one's own rather than auto just to have a more "natural" game play. I mean, I can't even walk in a straight line just to avoid some relics?..
It kind of already is. I don't know why you mentioned invisible goons because larger aliens (larger than basi basically) are pretty easy to spot.
It is easy to spot when people pay enough attention to every corners of the map. What I don't like is that people can keep picking up his invisible back after he camped someone at the corner.
That's odd. Is there a specific gun this happens with? I can't reproduce it. Are you sure you didn't die without ammo?
The two times I had got this was when I was using luci. I am sure I didn't die without ammo, I just wanted to go deep into alien base and lay down there to make a surprise attack, then I found myself having no ammo after resurrection..I resurrected with ammo with chaingun though, probably weapon specific.
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At about 66% of the first loading bar in tremulous, after joining the relic server, by computer boots me out saying something along the lines of only uncompressed BMP files...etc.
I've never heard of that error. What client are you running? Stock, TJWs, or mine? (and does changing from one to another fix anything?)
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ris ris
zap is invisdible
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tried with stock 1.1.0, then tjw's backport r755, then with r.909 for a surefire control......none worked.
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Risujin im guessing u ignored my PM...
But the idea of my PM said...
Making a speed relic where you shoot faster... But that means you get 1/2 less credits as a downside and shoot faster meaning double or triple... i dunno... OR you do less damage... I dunno this is just an idea
and res sucks, because what sux is if u got a las or any gun as human, you spawn with 0 ammo :\
Evil Relic Idea: ANYTHING you touch on your team (or not depends what u wanna do) you make the person stuck like a lock-blob from the trapper. OR have their health reduced to 10% of total HP... or something evil like this... goes for buildings too if you REALLLLLLY wanna fuck the game up :D
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The speed relic would be extremely overpowered if downside would be credits. It's basicly double damage if rate is doubled and possibility to hit is lot higher. With damage downside it would be considered but people don't want the relic since you need more ammo.
The evil relic idea of yours is simply idiotic.
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tried with stock 1.1.0, then tjw's backport r755, then with r.909 for a surefire control......none worked.
It works on TJW's tremded.
and res sucks, because what sux is if u got a las or any gun as human, you spawn with 0 ammo :\
zap is invisdible
Lies, all LIES!!
Can I get steps to reproduce on these? :-?
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Oh Mr. W/e The fuck your name is, you got a better idea for a super-evil relic? God...
For the speed relic you can always take down damage, credits, and / or your health decreases every time you fire or something...
Cmon bitch think of a better super-evil relic... You could come up with a relic that drains health from everything (including team mates) And gives you 1 HP per every 3 HP stolen from everything, or make it 1 HP per every 5) but the downside is you cannot heal any other way, and your damage is decreased by 1.5 that sounds fair right? or 1/2
Anyway smart ass think of a better idea. The real failure after all is having NO ideas... atleast i tried u douche
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Fact that your "super-dupper-upper-evil-relic" idea is going to anoy your team mates. For my experience even xael pisses your team mates off. Just having that gun in your grasp make people think that you are going to kamikaze* and get your team killed along with the aliens,
*) Btw. Have you noticed that word Kami- is japanese and referes to god and that -kaze refers to element of wind. thats like "godly wind" or something. ^^
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Well white bear, it has to be evil, means it has to do with team mates... Hey i didnt say it couldnt be with other team too. You touch em, they become paralyzed... Or as I said, it can be a thing that slows everyone down or something... It doesnt have to be only team-mate orientated...
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Risujin... You still have THESE to add... (I modified these to suit Trem a bit)
Vengeance Creates a big explosion after your death. Skull
Disability Makes your target really slow (lose relic after # of target slow downs or something...). Elder
Guns Makes you shoot faster (200% or 300%). Pistol
Infancy Decreases you in size. Baby
Momentum The momentum of damage is increased. Arrow
Translocation Your location is exchanged with your victim's location. Vanishing person
Evil Relic
(Random Effect) Reduces the damage you do to a quarter. (Random Symbol)
Quadruples all the damage that you take.
Decreases your health down.
Sets your health to 1.
Increases the damage on falls.
Mutant Relic You become a Mutant (Increase Damage, Increase Speed, Vamp, Basically: Combines all relics into one like Ice, Ammo, Vamp, and so on). Mutant god
Things you should ALSO add: Ability to have MULTIPLE relics on at the same time (some restrictions may apply), and able to DROP relics... Those are like a MUST... there are ways of balancing it out... you just have to think of some...
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Drunk relic, your invincible but you get the lisk gas shake
the "E" relic, you shout random insults at everybody. im sure you know who that ones named for.
Teleport relic, every time you jump you get dretchpunted in whatever direction your facing.
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Translocation Your location is exchanged with your victim's location. Vanishing person
"HAHA YEAH I R STAND INFRONT OF REACTOR AND WHEN A RANT COMES I SHOOT HIIM AND HE R GET STUCK SO I LEET HXOR DONTYA THINK"
I do like the dretchpunt idea, although it should be the slap relic.
Oh, someone mod slap to make it punt in the direction you're facing, would ya?
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Drunk relic, your invincible but you get the lisk gas shake
the "E" relic, you shout random insults at everybody. im sure you know who that ones named for.
Teleport relic, every time you jump you get dretchpunted in whatever direction your facing.
Drunk relic... Thats totally stupid, because the plague does that, but u arent invincible...
For the Evil relic, no... thats stupid too... there are like 5 year old kids playing this... even Quake 3 is rated M, still... who cares? Evil relic is totally useless, useless is why it shouldnt be added. Seriously if u want insults go type it up or macro it!
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And the translocating relic isn't stupid?
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Umm... its called TeleFrag... if you never heard of it, and no that doesnt have to be added... In UT 2004 we have Translocator, obviously you should play with me and ul see what I mean...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telefrag
And this is stupid? And no, doesnt have to be implemented as i said...
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How do you mark where you teleport?
Besides, psaw & teleporter could make trappers completely useless.
Not to mention what if a building is in the way, do we tele-frag that too?
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I've seen the Translocator, and I'm too cheap to buy UT.
In the situation I described (previous page) it's a real cheap relic; a blaster could own a rant by translocating it into a wall or, better yet, into a base.
@tech; You switch positions with the player you shoot.
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For the Evil relic, no... thats stupid too... there are like 5 year old kids playing this... even Quake 3 is rated M, still... who cares? Evil relic is totally useless, useless is why it shouldnt be added. Seriously if u want insults go type it up or macro it!
"E" relic doesnt stand for Evil, it stands for Evelosa, we could just have it copy one of your posts off the fourms ramdomly and spam it in the main chat.
how about the "zomg i didnt want hax that was my brother" one over and over again?
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http://tremulous.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4370&start=90
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http://tremulous.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4370&start=90
Bringer, that's this thread. Are you trying to restart it? Me am baffled. Wrong item paste from clipboard?
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A lot more than 14 :| like 20
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the latest version is svn939b-8 and it's lots of fun
and Risujin is now the Goomba master
he got me twice with that relic yesterday
once as dretch, once as mara
insta-kill!!!
oh and the mini relic is LOLligag funny
mini jettard
mini mara
zomfg roflmao!
pedited 4 unctuation
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and Risujin is now the Goomba master
It was a mara both times actually.
oh and the mini relic is LOLligag funny
mini jettard
mini mara
zomfg roflmao!
Relic mod melts brains, there was a time when player1 wrote complete sentences. 8)
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and Risujin is now the Goomba master
It was a mara both times actually.
oh and the mini relic is LOLligag funny
mini jettard
mini mara
zomfg roflmao!
Relic mod melts brains, there was a time when player1 wrote complete sentences. 8)
heavy bugs fell from sky
plague everywhere
invisible jetmen
geigers click-clattering
the trails, the trails
lewl
LLOOLL!!
eleventy-one
Mwahaha
*runs away drooling, gibbering to self*
..need Goomba...
Goom-Bah!
cue organ grinder music
PlayerOne sez: LLOOLL!!
{MMD}[/color]Bringer{L}"]FSKIN AWEOSME
{MMD}Bringer{L} experiences teleport (http://web.mac.com/onestagehand/iWeb/Site/Blog/884CF9A3-C1EB-4E10-AB87-03EE8B3A8E0C.html)
see more Relics mod action at my blog (http://web.mac.com/onestagehand/iWeb/Site/Blog/Blog.html)!!!
Relic Proposal: Paisan
(since we have a Goomba, :))
Relic Power: deals knockback as well as damage to opponent
(for example, a rifle or dretch would push opponent around a bit, whereas a luci or tyrant would knock opponent over middle building on ATCS)
Relic Symbol: Hand, Fist, Baseball Bat
Relic Drawback: relic holder also gets tossed around by damage
Future Relics with this (Sopranos/Mario Bros./Goodfellas) motif: Chamoke (opponents appear team-colored, player is bright orange), Shtunad (player deals only knockback damage, has jumpboost - not lograv), Capeesh (auto-taunts all opponents and player him/herself), Desit (enemies' respawn delayed, as is player's), & Aspeta (opponents frozen in place momentarily, as is player when damaged). A chamoke is a dumbass. A shtunad is a real dumbass. Capeesh means "Understand?". Desit means "Stop". Aspeta is "Waitaminute!". Brought to you by people in Noo Yawk/Philly/Boston who yell a lot. My ancestors.
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Great (hopefully) idea just came to me while watching WoW dance videos.
Y'know how when you get goombah'd it plays the Mario music?
What about; when you die from aids, "You know that you're toxic" plays (Britny Spears - Toxic, as if you didn't know :roll: ).
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And when you die from a tyrant stampede, the Big Blue theme from the original F-Zero plays, right?
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I'll think of something for all the other relics later. I'm tired, I had to document that before I fell asleep on my keyboard.
// It's 12:10 am here, teens need their rest.
// Sorry for stealing your "//", it's so usefull, though.
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I was thinking about a knockback relic as well.
Only the Goomba gets mario music. Im not adding a little tune to every possible relic-related frag. :wink:
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First of all, i love this mod. yesterday, i've been playing on your server for a couple of hours and i loved it :D.
Plague was very funny (people tend to share the pain with their team) and the tiny relic made it possible to get into places you shouldn't have been.
Although there is a bug, if plague spreads to a dretch, it doesn't get damaged. I love this myself because the whole alien team (me included) were all dretches and infected with plague and the only thing they had 2 do was to infect a human and it kept them busy for a couple of minutes :P.
Btw, would it be possible to make a giant relic. The relic doubles your size and health but halfs your jumping height and makes it impossible to reach a couple of places (think about vents and stuff).
What do you think?
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I thought of that, too, but then I thought about how most doors and hallways were optomized for current sizes, if a rant were to double in size it may not be able to leave or get in either of the bases on ATCS, Karith, etc..
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maybe a standard size, just a tadbit bigger then a tyrant. What i mean is for example, if a dretch takes this relic, it'll become huge but if a tyrant grabs it, it will only grow a little while if we put the dretch next to the tyrant, they will be the same size (kinda)
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I think you guys should add all the lolmod textures, skins, effects and etc., to the Relics mod, and make it the ultimate Trem ZOMFGfest.
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Not sure how plague works. Sometimes when I am infected I don't lose hp. Sometimes I get corrupted aim only and sometimes I get both. We ran version 8 today. 12 people were having plague and only half of them were having negative effect. I am interested to know how plague exactly works.
Anyway, I am going to report all the bugs I have found in version8:
1. The mini relic. When your mini relic is replaced you are return to normal size but your max hp is still half. Not sure if it only happens when you are ejected or got plague. The damage and speed probably remain half too.
2. Also the mini relic. If a player with plague touches a mini version of another player. The mini player will return to its normal size and the two will be stuck forever. They can't attack each other or move and one of them has to be killed in order to move again.
3. You can't evolve to a bigger alien with a mini relic unless in mid air.
4. The plague relic. When you translocate a player with plague, you two will keep swapping positions every time the plague exerts its effect (with sounds and the plague icon everywhere). I discovered it with a teammate, not sure if it also happens with enemies.
5. The translocate relic produces stuck too (like the case in 2.)
6. Probably a lot more but I decide not to go on 8).
Since the plague relic works randomly and there is too much stuck, especially the plague is a griefer's favorite on sticking others. We are returning to version 6 :) .
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I free-spec'd a game at ris's server yesterday where Plague Bringer and Kuri Kuri got stuck to each other or something at the Armoury, they were teammates, and they kept doing damage to each other, and the animation played like three times in a row. Wild.
Some general suggestions for version 8.
IF YOU HAVE PLAGUE OR RADIATION, GTFOutta t3h BASE!!! You infected, contagious, dangerous, TKing, deconning son-of-a-non-knowing-n00b!!!
(But srsly, we had so much Plague in base yesterday, I had to keep picking them up and running outside to get rid of them. There were five of them floating in front of the Medi, and three infected people pushing each other off of the healer-machine. Suicide in the other team's base, don't stand on the friggin' Medistation waiting to die! LOLz...)
Take that teleport closer to the enemy, too. That one is crazy in bases and small skirmishes. I should've made a demo of the free-spec, it was Plague Bringer & Kuri Kuri vs. AKAnatou and inferno. Can't remeber the exact ign coloring and another player joined the Humans at one point. Transit, on Ris's server. ROFLMAOzomfg!!!111!!!didyouseethat??
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4. The plague relic. When you translocate a player with plague, you two will keep swapping positions every time the plague exerts its effect (with sounds and the plague icon everywhere). I discovered it with a teammate, not sure if it also happens with enemies.
Risujin got telefragged but also killed the last mara yesterday on Transit, so, yes, it works with enemies.
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plague bringer, how was the teleport?
i was laughing my @$$ off free-speccing you guyz yesterday on that Transit game
t3h skirmishes in t3h Alien bases was FSKIN AWEOSME
telerelic (http://web.mac.com/onestagehand/iWeb/Site/Blog/884CF9A3-C1EB-4E10-AB87-03EE8B3A8E0C.html)
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I was pissed on Uncreation, some retard with aids was standing on the medi. I lost my minisuit. >:T
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I was pissed on Uncreation, some retard with aids was standing on the medi. I lost my minisuit. >:T
*chuckles*
u got t3h minisuit?
i missed uncreation
was busy w/interruptions
get any screenies yesterday?
post ur Relics-related screenies, links, and blogspam here
how'd u like t3h teleport?
what other maps is Ris running now?
(ATCS, Transit, Gloom3t [or was it Gloom2beta2?], Nexus6, Tremor, Niveus, Karith I have played or seen starting)
did you check out these (http://web.mac.com/onestagehand/iWeb/Site/Blog/0BD67747-4D7D-4CA5-91D9-2E79237D35C7.html) shots?
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BIIIIIIG Thank you to you risujin for adding trans relic, I LOVE IT! Also, the dretch, yeah thats ok... i told him earlier! I hope he keeps it the way it is, dretch doesnt have a lot of HP anyway, he dies too fast :\ it should be based on percent rather than 3 damage a second or w/e it is...
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I am interested to know how plague exactly works.
I intentionally chose to keep the plague related bugs. Let me explain my reasoning and how it really works (and all the really bizarre things that you can do with it). When you infect someone with plague, in game terms, you are attacking them every second for 3 damage. If you change your relic during that time, you are still technically attacking the victim. So if you infect a teammate dretch, you will do no damage due to dretchpunt or if FF is off. If you change your relic to a reverse damage, your plague attack will heal the victim. If you change your relic to a vamp, you will gain life. If you change your relic to a translocate, you will swap locations every second. I thought that these kinds of combos, when intentional, are a lot of fun so I decided to keep the bugs. :)
1. The mini relic. When your mini relic is replaced you are return to normal size but your max hp is still half. Not sure if it only happens when you are ejected or got plague. The damage and speed probably remain half too.
It is HP only, I will fix it.
2. Also the mini relic. If a player with plague touches a mini version of another player. The mini player will return to its normal size and the two will be stuck forever. They can't attack each other or move and one of them has to be killed in order to move again.
Good catch, I tried to find all possible ways to lose a mini relic but missed this one!
3. You can't evolve to a bigger alien with a mini relic unless in mid air.
I know about this one. The code tries to fit a full-size bounding box so it ends up in the floor if you're a mini.
5. The translocate relic produces stuck too (like the case in 2.)
The translocation and mini relics use the same function to check if there is enough room for either. This function is also used by the game to check if there is enough room to evolve. As you can actually evolve and get stuck in various parts of the map, I think the function is bugged.
Since the plague relic works randomly and there is too much stuck, especially the plague is a griefer's favorite on sticking others. We are returning to version 6 :) .
You don't need to do that. Disable the plague, mini, and translocation relics:
g_relicPlague 0
g_relicTranslocate 0
g_relicMini 0
Also, I am going on vacation for about 3 weeks. I might have access to a computer but I won't be updating any of the mods.
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Risujin, is ur server gonna stay up? Cuz i hope so!
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Risujin, is ur server gonna stay up? Cuz i hope so!
Until it crashes. 8)
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I free-spec'd a game at ris's server yesterday where Plague Bringer and Kuri Kuri got stuck to each other or something at the Armoury, they were teammates, and they kept doing damage to each other, and the animation played like three times in a row. Wild.
Some general suggestions for version 8.
IF YOU HAVE PLAGUE OR RADIATION, GTFOutta t3h BASE!!! You infected, contagious, dangerous, TKing, deconning son-of-a-non-knowing-n00b!!!
(But srsly, we had so much Plague in base yesterday, I had to keep picking them up and running outside to get rid of them. There were five of them floating in front of the Medi, and three infected people pushing each other off of the healer-machine. Suicide in the other team's base, don't stand on the friggin' Medistation waiting to die! LOLz...)
Take that teleport closer to the enemy, too. That one is crazy in bases and small skirmishes. I should've made a demo of the free-spec, it was Plague Bringer & Kuri Kuri vs. AKAnatou and inferno. Can't remeber the exact ign coloring and another player joined the Humans at one point. Transit, on Ris's server. ROFLMAOzomfg!!!111!!!didyouseethat??
i remember that, lol. before that i got telefragged by risujin tho...lol! anyways, i was experimenting with the teleport and seriously pissing off inferno at the same time. teleport+poison=hours of fun. *hurt*WARP*hurt*WARP etc. zap+teleport is a little bugged, the zap stays on at a 180 degree angle, but that's fun and i like it
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http://img522.imageshack.us/slideshow/player.php?id=img522/9739/1179004831jyi.smil
Mah Relic slideshow.
Oh, I found a glitch to get out of the map. I'd gladly show Risujin or anyone else on Heaven of Relics, but I'd rather not discuss it here. It's my little secret (hopefully).
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OMFG!!!!!!! the one pulsing the mini tyrant is me!!!!!!!!
and the goon at the end! i remember that from today!! lol. he was invisi and all the nodes were down. me and inferno couldnt find him. i got him i n the end tho
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The only way to find an invishuman in a corner; radiate the shit outta the faggot.
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the animations from health loss kick in?
oh what's the secret? tellmetellmetellme.... going there right now!!!
@AKanatu: minirant LOLz
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I'll show ya's.
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I'll show ya's.
omw
brt
igi
*throws cat off desk*
my most favorite TK (http://web.mac.com/onestagehand/iWeb/Site/Blog/E8BAD3A7-38B3-41A1-ACAA-2B47753C350A.html)
idk if I can get this thru to you*cough*Evelsoa*cough* XD
but if you are a Human
take the Plague and Radiation out of base!!!
either grab another Relic (duh!)
or suicide on t3h enemy defenses
(die to <world> not foe!)
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I intentionally chose to keep the plague related bugs. Let me explain my reasoning and how it really works (and all the really bizarre things that you can do with it). When you infect someone with plague, in game terms, you are attacking them every second for 3 damage. If you change your relic during that time, you are still technically attacking the victim. So if you infect a teammate dretch, you will do no damage due to dretchpunt or if FF is off. If you change your relic to a reverse damage, your plague attack will heal the victim. If you change your relic to a vamp, you will gain life. If you change your relic to a translocate, you will swap locations every second. I thought that these kinds of combos, when intentional, are a lot of fun so I decided to keep the bugs. :)
I see :). If I am not wrong only the person who started the plague can replace his relic, while those who got infected are immune to pick up relic until their death. Assume if the person who picked up the plague relic, player A only spread it to a teammate player B and player B spread the plague to every players on the server. If player A now change his relic to reverse, will he only heals player B or every person on the server? How about if player A died before anyone else? Will the plague lose its effect?
Though, How do you get rid of translocate with plague if it happens between teammates? Two tyrants keep swapping position and one of them has to /kill. I can't convince the server host to run version 8 if there are so many griefing choices. :(.
You don't need to do that. Disable the plague, mini, and translocation relics:
g_relicPlague 0
g_relicTranslocate 0
g_relicMini 0
I thought people can still pick them up through the unknown relic? That is the case in my server that the relic number on players always exceeds the maximum number allowed.
And anything else new from version 7 except the new relics? Also if there are any plan on balancing the old relics? Like vampire being too powerful as human and using invisible to hide as the last resort in a lost game.
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I'll show ya's.
omw
brt
igi
*throws cat off desk*
my most favorite TK (http://web.mac.com/onestagehand/iWeb/Site/Blog/E8BAD3A7-38B3-41A1-ACAA-2B47753C350A.html)
idk if I can get this thru to you*cough*Evelsoa*cough* XD
but if you are a Human
take the Plague and Radiation out of base!!!
either grab another Relic (duh!)
or suicide on t3h enemy defenses
(die to <world> not foe!)
But its fun to kill everyone and give them AIDS and screw them over and the whole team is in chaos going "OMFG OMFG WHAT AM I GOING TO DO!!!!!11one" and others are like "I WILL KILL J00 EVLESODS!!" and im like "ROFLLMAOBBQSAUCE" @ everyone...
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Risujin, is ur server gonna stay up? Cuz i hope so!
Until it crashes. 8)
Looks like it crashed today. :(
Turns out the machine thats running the server is going to be off during my vacation so the server is not going to be up. I did notice that there are a few other Relic servers around. Hopefully they are configured well and have decent admins. If not, please bug them about it. Sorry about this. :cry:
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Ahh man! *disappointed*
That sucks... i wonder y it crash, but still... now im gonna die of boredom!
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so many griefing choices. :(.
But its fun to kill everyone and give them AIDS and screw them over and the whole team is in chaos going "OMFG OMFG WHAT AM I GOING TO DO!!!!!11one" and others are like "I WILL KILL J00 EVLESODS!!" and im like "ROFLLMAOBBQSAUCE" @ everyone...
I dunno i feel bad 4 u guys that u guys have to deal with my bullshit... :\
Dude I watched you hide behind the Armoury and Reactor, camping on the Medistation on Karith (I moved everything to the usual under-the-stairways spot) and infect my team again and again and again. This was after you'd spent nearly half an hour as a flamehealer/lucihealer (did you try nadehealer, too, you knockback junkie?). After you'd spent an entire game in chatflamewar with Bringer.... You have funny view of good time, I guess... You sir, r t3h GRIEF3r!!! :P
Like vampire being too powerful as human and using invisible to hide as the last resort in a lost game.
These grieing exploits I didn't mind... :-?
spedited 4 elling
what's an evlesoa?
sumpin' Latvian?
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Risujin, is ur server gonna stay up? Cuz i hope so!
Until it crashes. 8)
Looks like it crashed today. :(
Turns out the machine thats running the server is going to be off during my vacation so the server is not going to be up. I did notice that there are a few other Relic servers around. Hopefully they are configured well and have decent admins. If not, please bug them about it. Sorry about this. :cry:
Have a good time Ris...
Where ya goin'?
Somebody gonna keep a version 7 going, maybe?
*hopes*
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OK, just a quick little suggestion, based on an observation.
Observation: Big Aliens (goons and rants) can really infect a Human team with Plague (because they have the hit points to carry it into the human base and then run away and switch to another Relic). Also, they seem to be able to live with Radiation for quite a long while, too, and carrying this into the Human base creates a toxic zone of death around the Armoury/Medistation area (since they're traditionally placed together). Add one griefer/n00b/afk on the Human team and you've got completely unbalanced play.
Suggestion: Port a couple of classic Quake/Doom weapons to Relics mod, to give Humans a fighting chance against Plague & Radiation (although competent Humans can use these Relics to their advantage if they wish). My personal choices would be: t3h Super Shotgun, t3h Nailgun, t3h Railgun & t3h Lightning Gun. Just for the Relics mod, not for regular standard Trem. Super Shotgun & Nailgun = Stage 2; Railgun & Lightning Gun = Stage 3.
I know it's a lolmod, but I think this could help Humans survive a bit, and give players a reason to go Human in Relics version 8 (which is a rant/goon killing frenzy, at times). I'd like a weapon I can TK a Plague-griefer with in one shot. Plus something to keep goons from bringing that stuff into my base in the first place. XD
Also, since this is the most arcade of Tremulous mods, can you reintroduce the Arena Announcer and badges from Q3a? Say you kill the radi mara+ on top of the reactor. It'd be cool (http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=quakeiiisoundboardoe0.swf) to hear:
"Defense"
PlayerOne likes the arcade quality of version 8
and sez:
LOL<3
My thx to TinMan 4 t3h sound board linkage!!
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You don't need to do that. Disable the plague, mini, and translocation relics:
g_relicPlague 0
g_relicTranslocate 0
g_relicMini 0
No, we combinded domination and relic V6 and many other patches..
Can be trouble if we have to make the changes again. Do you have any idea how we can keep our relic version updated without remaking everything when we update the relic ? XD
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You don't need to do that. Disable the plague, mini, and translocation relics:
g_relicPlague 0
g_relicTranslocate 0
g_relicMini 0
No, we combinded domination and relic V6 and many other patches..
Can be trouble if we have to make the changes again. Do you have any idea how we can keep our relic version updated without remaking everything when we update the relic ? XD
get a diff tool lol
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A diff will show all of our own changes where the changes from relic v6 => v8 are hidden within well, like having the invisible relic :( ....
or should i just patch a v6 and diff it with the v8...? actually i want risujin to release patches that is for updating from older versions XDDDDDD
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A diff will show all of our own changes but not the changes from relic v6 => v8 ....
or should i just patch a v6 and diff it with the v8...? actually i want risujin to release patches that is for updating from older versions XDDDDDD
keep the version of relic you implemented
when new version comes apply the changes manually to yours
keep the version of domination you implemented
when new version comes apply the changes manually to yours
not easy I know. but you are combining 2 mods in 1
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or should i just patch a v6 and diff it with the v8...?
Since you've seen the patches, I'm sure you can tell that the Relic patch I release does not include a lot of the other changes that are in the VM. The patch is not backported, does not have mod help, or dretch punt. You can use the same method I use to keep your distro up to date.
The idea is to reverse patch the last version and patch the new version over it again:
patch -l -R -p0 < relic-svn939-6.patch
patch -l -p0 < relic-svn939-8.patch
(-R is reverse, -l ignores whitespace, that's lowercase L not I)
You need to fix any rejected files after running patch, but I usually don't have any. You might since you modified it! Use common sense.
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Ris,
Hey are you still on vacation?
Hoping you can get the old version 8 Relics server going again. =)
I'd love to see a Heaven of Relics/Domination hybrid.
Also, can't wait to see the Balance Revisited: TremulousArcade evil plot come to fruition.
What did you think of the "import the super-shotgun/nailgun" suggestion?
Any chance you'll add any cool Arena Announcer
sounds?
Good luck and happy surfing!
PlayerOne