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Community => Off Topic => Topic started by: ShAdoW on April 16, 2007, 02:40:56 am
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http://www.google.ch/search?hl=en&q=earth+warming&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
What do u think? Just a few links, of course i did.. read them.
This theme wasn't so active here also. I just want to know what peoples think about it :wink:
And something else. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMbqqpYMWQc
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i didnt read your links but i dont believe in global warming
if we had an ice age without man 'breaking the ecosystem' we can have a fireage without man 'breaking the ecosystem.'
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Global warming is total BS. Period.
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xD
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Has been obvious for a LOOOONG time. Check f.ex El Nino and when it has started to act crazy.. And water rising... etc etc etc...
And one thing is weird. USA gets the blasts because of global warming more often than any other country but still isn't really going to do anything about it....
And now btw, Americans (new study) says that forests in Northern Countries increases (?) global warming, even though they doesn't recognize the problem in wider scale... Figure...
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Yeah. Apparently the forests have been found to absorb heat instead of allowing the heat to be reflected by the snow on the ground. Some people in Africa complained that they don't produce as much CO2 as the western countries, but they are getting the droughts and whatnots instead because of global warming. Famine is going to take more toll than before. Anthropogenic or not global warming is, it's still a problem that has to be recognised and dealt with. It's not something you can deny anymore with all the evidences we have today.
On another note, I swear I noticed the world becoming warmer 7 years ago. Taking a stroll in the midday was comfortable and the sunlight wasn't something we tried to get away from (my permanent home is in SE Asia, it can get quite sunny there although we also get heavy rain all year around). Nowadays people just stay in the building trying not to get heat stroke/migraine.
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You know how there are all these liberal idiots who claim that they are tired of seeing humans kill off species right and left, and that they want to put a stop to it, and then turn their heads and talk about how there have been 5 mass extinctions, and have furthered the reach of life? Yea, what if all this warming stuff and whatnot is, ya know, NATURAL, and will benefit life? Stupid evoloutionists dont believe in evoloution.
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You know how there are all these liberal idiots who claim that they are tired of seeing humans kill off species right and left, and that they want to put a stop to it, and then turn their heads and talk about how there have been 5 mass extinctions, and have furthered the reach of life? Yea, what if all this warming stuff and whatnot is, ya know, NATURAL, and will benefit life? Stupid evoloutionists dont believe in evoloution.
so you are advocating the destruction of the only known sentient life in the universe to further life? and even if not our destruction but the destruction of a form of life that you wont find anywhere else, this galaxy is Tailor Made for supporting life.
and for those who think global warming is just a scary story told by tree-huging republicans and hippies think again. its like the ozone layer scare in the 80's the atmosphere (in general) is getting thicker (instead of thinner) and trapping more and more heat inside, the main scare of this is the fact that evolution isn't going to kick in automatically, it will take decades for life to accomodate the increased sea level caused by the melting of the polar caps and the increase in temperature that will become of it.
Edit: oh and paradox, its true that there have been ice ages before and the like, but not on a scale of what's happening now. scientists have been able to find out what life was like in the prehistoric times by looking at what they find in ice in the arctic regions, its true that there have been times when the level of CO2 (carbon dioxide) has gotten high which has corresponded with an increase in global temperature and then an ice age and a decrease in CO2. the peak level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere was 300 parts per million, which was followed by a sharp decrease in both temperature and carbon dioxide level. The level of carbon dioxide NOW is 350 parts per million, and if nothing is done in 45 years it will be 600 parts per million.
if you dont believe me watch or read al gore's book or movie "an inconvienient truth". and he provides proof for every single one of his claims, which is more than the people against global warming can
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Global Whining
The only thing that they are trying to accomplish is to inject the minds of ordinary people full of fear, since fear is the driving factor for consumption. Wether it be Muslims, Africanized bees or global warming, as long as you are scared you will consume. While the world may certainly be heating up, it's nothing out of the ordinary.
Even if the Human race is solely responsible for the global warming, the chances of the Human race being able to stop it are slim.
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Im careful, but not fanatic about my carbon and waste, cos it just costs me in the end. However over the last 5 years my winters have been getting less and less, and in the last two years it dissappeared altogether to be replaced by strong sunlight.
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lava, i disagree
exactly what is global warming trying to get you to buy, a personal sunroof? carbon dioxide-b-gone spray? your own planet?
Nothing out of the ordinary?
Nothign can be done?
read al gore's book, the answer to these questions is inside.
but it does bring to light an issue about global warming, not enough people can be bothered to do something about it. it matters to everyone and its not something thats solved by large actions, but by numerous small ones.
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it's nothing out of the ordinary.
How do you figure that?
You think Greenland and the Ice Caps melt every, oh say, 1000 or so years?
They dont.
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I dont believe in evolution theory or something ... it as simple as it gets. there is just one rule called natural selection. if nature doesnt want you, you cant live. and yes global warming is not the end of the world but human race has less chance to survive. my theory is human race will extinct in 1 million years and reptiles will rule the earth once again.
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Not exactly without bias, but worth a look: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Global_warming
I don't belive whats happening this is a better referense site at all times.
By the way the fosil fuels will end in few yers(ment few hunreds of years)
and the global worming will stop moast likely. For now lwets just give the fault of global warming to Gorge bush and forgrt about it next momet. Global warming is unstoppable anyway.
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The only aspect of global warming that the majority agree on is that the overall average temperature is increasing. Almost every other aspect is still controversial to many.
There are many parties that have a vested interest in people believing that human influence is the cause of global warming, and there are many parties with a vested interest in people believing that it is not. Hence, the skepticism, conspiracy theories and flame wars are rife.
All I can say is study the arguments both for and against the various theories out there before deciding what you think on the matter. Look for reliable sources where possible - avoid the industrial propaganda and the hippie's blogs. Don't radicalize yourself and jump onto a bandwagon, else you become part of the problem whichever side you're on.
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Africa complained that they don't produce as much CO2 as the western countries, but they are getting the droughts and whatnots instead because of global warming
IRC netsplits because of global warming in that case.
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But the main thing is that we CANNOT stick our heads into a sand what ever an individual thinks in light of few different studies. If there might be a threat, it should be properly studied and I bet that NO ONE here has actually read all of them. Arrogance is one thing what humans should avoid. And the truth is that no one really knows what is going on really. You might have opinions but REALLY, not single one of them is entirely true.
Without proper premises you cannot find valid conclusion. So say the philosophers. (and so say we all?)
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You know how there are all these liberal idiots who claim that they are tired of seeing humans kill off species right and left, and that they want to put a stop to it, and then turn their heads and talk about how there have been 5 mass extinctions, and have furthered the reach of life? Yea, what if all this warming stuff and whatnot is, ya know, NATURAL, and will benefit life? Stupid evoloutionists dont believe in evoloution.
Shit yes, took the words right outta my mouth. And why is evolution the only THEORY allowed to be taught in school, anyway?
You guys do know that the same liberals that are now screaming "Global Warming!" were warning us about "global cooling" 50 years ago, right? It's called weatherpatterns, dumbfucks. Sometimes it's a tad warmer, and sometimes it gets colder. That's all there is to it.
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Listen for a second. Here's the real deal:
Al Gore wants to make money (thousands of $$$$) speaking at colleges, etcetera. So he thinks up global warming. Viola, it works. Did you know that 15-20 years ago, everyone was freaking out about global cooling? The truth is that the Earth goes through cycles of warming and cooling, every few billion years we have an ice age, and so on. There won't be anything to worry about in our life time. I'm going to buy all the fossil fuels I have use for and if they get extinguished, no doubt it will be after I'm dead.
I know, Al Gore didn't invent global warming but I think he's become one of its biggest icons. And then he drives a huge car, and breathes out enough hot Carbon Dioxide to cause global warming all by himself. Definition of the word "hypocrite" right there.
Yes, I'm conservative, but only because the only alternative is to be edgy, spend-happy, paranoid, and a little dim if not completely stupid.
-No flame-backs.
Get a great book, called "The Icons of Evolution" at
this site (http://www.amazon.com/Icons-Evolution-Science-Teach-About/dp/0895262002/ref=sr_1_2/104-6221632-0783914?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1176744946&sr=8-2). Or at least read a review. Gross cover pic, but great book.
It pretty much shoots down every "proof" of evolution that there is, for example those gray moths that they taught you about in High School (which is BS, of course)
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Floodbud
EDIT: You may have to copy and paste the link, the forum url thing isn't working.
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The most succesful conspiracy I've seen is today is the effort to make everything that people do looks like a conspiracy.
It's called nerve war. The group that has the most influence wins. But you never win with them.
The world is getting warmer, that's a fact. A link has been found between CO2 amount and the greenhouse effect. Doesn't matter if there is a conspiracy or not, CO2 does in fact add to the global warming effect.
By the way, there is proof of evolution happening all over us. We're just not sure to what extent / over what kind of period evolution happens. But to say that living things were born from a chain of slight chance of colliding particles, I don't think so. Colliding particles which cannot decide, how will they make choice which feature they want to evolve next ? I only believe in evolution by something that can decide. Aliens can evolve. Walls and doors just couldn't.
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Global Whining
The only thing that they are trying to accomplish is to inject the minds of ordinary people full of fear, since fear is the driving factor for consumption. Wether it be Muslims, Africanized bees or global warming, as long as you are scared you will consume. While the world may certainly be heating up, it's nothing out of the ordinary.
Even if the Human race is solely responsible for the global warming, the chances of the Human race being able to stop it are slim.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at such ignorance. Fortunately, your views are now becoming the minority.
The debate whether the world is heating up is long over, it's an undeniable fact. The question is whether or not humans have played an accelerating part. Are we having an impact on this natural process? Even without the scientific evidence, it doesn't take a scientist to look at the impact of billions of humans and their industrial hunger and say, whoa, what kinda shit are we getting ourselves into?
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For now lwets just give the fault of global warming to Gorge bush and forgrt about it next momet.
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/02/is_george_bush.php
As it turns out, George Bush is more environmentally minded than you are. Although personally, I think all this Global Warming bullshit you liberals are pumping is starting to annoy me.
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Global warming is total BS. Period.
Im not even going to comment on that one.
For now lwets just give the fault of global warming to Gorge bush and forgrt about it next momet.
First of all, learn to type.
Second, it sounds to me like you consider the American president king of the world...how is it all his fault?
Oh, and that uncyclopedia link looks like something that was written in 15 minutes by an angry person with a lot of free time. It's a completely biased site with a bunch of unscientific wisecracks. Try using that as a reference to a college paper and see how credible your professor finds it.
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/Hawkfrost8/Instrumental_Temperature_Record.png)
Whether this is due to "Global Warming" or not...thats a pretty steady change.
The percent of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has increased by 34% since the beginning of the industrialism of America.
And yes- humans can stop this. However, just as at night it takes longer for the ocean to cool than the beach, the oceans will take longer to cool down than land. In fact, if something drastic isn't done in the next ten years, its likely that the oceans will take many years to cool.
Of course, it COULD be a weather pattern. But...do we know this? No. And you know what, complaining about "liberals" won't help.
You see...the "theory" of global warming is no longer a "theory". The greenhouse effect has been scientifically proven. Emissions from our automobiles, power plants, and other things rise into the atmosphere. The UV rays and heat from the sun pass through the atmosphere, bounce off the earth, and are trapped inside. It works exactly the same as a greenhouse does. Hence the name.
And just because some people want to do something about this instead of waiting 20 years to see if its "just a weather pattern" arent "dumbfucks".
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The earth is coming out of an ice age, it will obviously get warmer. I would be more worried if it started getting colder.
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The temperature of earth began increasing during the industrial revolution. Are you saying the earth was in an ice age up until the 1800's?
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The earth is coming out of an ice age, it will obviously get warmer. I would be more worried if it started getting colder.
I Agree
But the internet answers, lies etc. here's something http://mysite.verizon.net/mhieb/WVFossils/ice_ages.html
And thx for the replies :)
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And just because some people want to do something about this instead of waiting 20 years to see if its "just a weather pattern" arent "dumbfucks".
Fair enough.
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Global warming is a fact. Those who think otherwise either don't have the full info, or just don't want to believe it's happening. Yes, it's our fault. The burning of fossil fuels excessively has raised the CO2 level and therefore, more heat is being stored in the atmostphere. Yes, because of this, ice from glaciers is melting and the water levels are rising. Yes, if we choose to do nothing, we are in deep shit.
cheers
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Global warming is a fact. Those who thihk otherwise either don't have the full info, or just don't want to believe it's happening. Yes, it's our fault. The buring of fossil fuels excessively has raised teh CO2 level and therefore, more heat is being stored in the atmostphere. Yes, becasue of this, ice is melting and the water levels are rising. Yes, if we choose to do nothing, we are in deep shit.
cheers
We already are... If not blow or flame our selves, there is a meteor threats.. For example check Asteroid 2002 NT7, Asteroid 1950 DA and Asteroid 99942 Apophis
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I like it hot, real hot. If I had it my way, I'd feed cows pinto beans with cabbage and shove coal down my carburetor. Hey, if caveman survived the Ice Age, why can't rayman overcome the Sun Age? Or naiveman the Lies Age?
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I like it hot, real hot. If I had it my way, I'd feed cows pinto beans with cabbage and shove coal down my carburetor. Hey, if caveman survived the Ice Age, why can't rayman overcome the Sun Age? Or naiveman the Lies Age?
you countered your own argumet there, by making the planet hotter you are increasing the speed at which it gets cooler, all those times of high carbon dioxide levels and temperature usually didn't last long.
Man could survive an ice age, mankind can't.
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You guys are getting crazy on me. Don't be flame-tards please.
Global warming and the greenhouse effect are different!
Greenhouse effect: Proven. The natural CO2 in the atmosphere traps heat, allowing us to be a little warmer than the moon.
Global Warming: Unproven. Apocalyptic theory that due to human use of fossil fuels, the polar ice caps will melt, the Earth will flood, and everyone will die. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to research the flaw in this one. Over the billions of years since the Earth was created, it has gone through cycles of warmer and colder. It has gone through many cycles. There is no reason for the cycles to change. It will just get warmer for a while--not due to humans--and then it will get cooler. It may wipe out human civilization, but if you treehuggers are all worried about the environment, your attitude should be "maybe the best thing for the Earth is for human civilization to be wiped out."
If you guys need something to worry about, it should be the moon. Every year, the moon gets a few centimeters further away, and its stabilizing effect on the Earth is getting weaker. Before the Earth floods, it will lose its hold on the moon and spin out of control, sending us whirling through ice ages and lava flows at an incredible rate. Google it if you don't believe me. It's a fact, found through computer simulation.
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I agree with floobud for once. Global warming is not a issue to worry about. Nor is the moon however. All of these items take millions of years to occur. If the human race lives to millions of years in age, then by golly gee the earth being 3 degrees hotter better not kill us off. Even if it does I am happy with our race going a million years.
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you countered your own argumet there, by making the planet hotter you are increasing the speed at which it gets cooler
How did I do that? Cold. Hot. Makes no difference to me. I'll just wear tight ridged corduroy jeans and rub my legs together really fast if I feel like getting any warmer.
Either way, you missed the point entirely, as do most who play fancy with themselves in such discussions. Man and his hubris thinks he can actually destroy or alter mother nature in some way. Right. To all those with such notions, try not to strain your arm while shoulder patting. Haven't you heard? It's not wise to fool Mother Nature. She knows we're just weak piss ants. She'll bring out the Amdro or water house when necessary. But, has that ever stopped us ants from surviving? With such hubris and entertainment of themself, foolish men make even greater fools of others readily accepting these scared alarmists. You ever see a scared little man react to something unknown and bigger than himself? He throws out his chest and ups his fists pretending to be something he is not. Hubris.
[sniff. sniff.] What's that smell? Use your nose and follow the subsidized money trail for all these scientific studies, both pro and con alike (for and against). Therein, you'll find your answer. So, sit back, relax, and burn your front lawn just for kicks. In might just be fun. We're just piss ants. All of us. Get over yourselves already...
I imagine right about now, several people are googling like mad to present their next piece of "evidence". So, stick out your chest. The irony is delicious!
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How did I do that? Cold. Hot. Makes no difference to me. I'll just wear tight ridged corduroy jeans and rub my legs together really fast if I feel like getting any warmer.
That, just made me laugh. Try rubbing your corduroy jeans in some place -40 C and we'll see how long you last. Even if the increase/decrease in temperature is only a few Celcius, there is a lot of impact for us to think about. Try not to think about you and your jeans only okay ?
Either way, you missed the point entirely, as do most who play fancy with themselves in such discussions. Man and his hubris thinks he can actually destroy or alter mother nature in some way. Right. To all those with such notions, try not to strain your arm while shoulder patting. Haven't you heard? It's not wise to fool Mother Nature. She knows we're just weak piss ants. She'll bring out the Amdro or water house when necessary. But, has that ever stopped us ants from surviving? With such hubris and entertainment of themself, foolish men make even greater fools of others readily accepting these scared alarmists. You ever see a scared little man react to something unknown and bigger than himself? He throws out his chest and ups his fists pretending to be something he is not. Hubris.
Just because we haven't destroyed Earth doesn't mean we don't have the means to. It's mainly because we still need Earth and there isn't really any specific advantage if we destroy it. Try looking around what the current nukes can do and maybe you'll get the idea.
[sniff. sniff.] What's that smell? Use your nose and follow the subsidized money trail for all these scientific studies, both pro and con alike (for and against). Therein, you'll find your answer. So, sit back, relax, and burn your front lawn just for kicks. In might just be fun. We're just piss ants. All of us. Get over yourselves already...
Hahaha. Sounds like you're another one of those victims who fell to the 'everything is conspiracy' influence :D
I imagine right about now, several people are googling like mad to present their next piece of "evidence". So, stick out your chest. The irony is delicious!
Thanks for the joke. Oh lol what a delicious irony cake.
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(http://i14.tinypic.com/2wg66mr.jpg)
I rest my case .. maybe
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How did I do that? Cold. Hot. Makes no difference to me. I'll just wear tight ridged corduroy jeans and rub my legs together really fast if I feel like getting any warmer.
Either way, you missed the point entirely, as do most who play fancy with themselves in such discussions. Man and his hubris thinks he can actually destroy or alter mother nature in some way. Right. To all those with such notions, try not to strain your arm while shoulder patting. Haven't you heard? It's not wise to fool Mother Nature. She knows we're just weak piss ants. She'll bring out the Amdro or water house when necessary. But, has that ever stopped us ants from surviving? With such hubris and entertainment of themself, foolish men make even greater fools of others readily accepting these scared alarmists. You ever see a scared little man react to something unknown and bigger than himself? He throws out his chest and ups his fists pretending to be something he is not. Hubris.
[sniff. sniff.] What's that smell? Use your nose and follow the subsidized money trail for all these scientific studies, both pro and con alike (for and against). Therein, you'll find your answer. So, sit back, relax, and burn your front lawn just for kicks. In might just be fun. We're just piss ants. All of us. Get over yourselves already...
I imagine right about now, several people are googling like mad to present their next piece of "evidence". So, stick out your chest. The irony is delicious!
Stating your view over and over, a view that is looked upon as incredibly ignorant to anyone with the facts, does not make it true. Please come out from your little shell, get informed, stfu and try to make a difference.
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Thanks to global warming, we have nice whether here!
I have heard that Holland will have a Hawaii climate in about 80 years!
So put on your short trousers, grab your deodorant and help to destroy the ozone layer! Yeeaahh!!! :D
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How did I do that? Cold. Hot. Makes no difference to me. I'll just wear tight ridged corduroy jeans and rub my legs together really fast if I feel like getting any warmer.
That, just made me laugh. Try rubbing your corduroy jeans in some place -40 C and we'll see how long you last. Even if the increase/decrease in temperature is only a few Celcius, there is a lot of impact for us to think about. Try not to think about you and your jeans only okay ?
Either way, you missed the point entirely, as do most who play fancy with themselves in such discussions. Man and his hubris thinks he can actually destroy or alter mother nature in some way. Right. To all those with such notions, try not to strain your arm while shoulder patting. Haven't you heard? It's not wise to fool Mother Nature. She knows we're just weak piss ants. She'll bring out the Amdro or water house when necessary. But, has that ever stopped us ants from surviving? With such hubris and entertainment of themself, foolish men make even greater fools of others readily accepting these scared alarmists. You ever see a scared little man react to something unknown and bigger than himself? He throws out his chest and ups his fists pretending to be something he is not. Hubris.
Just because we haven't destroyed Earth doesn't mean we don't have the means to. It's mainly because we still need Earth and there isn't really any specific advantage if we destroy it. Try looking around what the current nukes can do and maybe you'll get the idea.
[sniff. sniff.] What's that smell? Use your nose and follow the subsidized money trail for all these scientific studies, both pro and con alike (for and against). Therein, you'll find your answer. So, sit back, relax, and burn your front lawn just for kicks. In might just be fun. We're just piss ants. All of us. Get over yourselves already...
Hahaha. Sounds like you're another one of those victims who fell to the 'everything is conspiracy' influence :D
I imagine right about now, several people are googling like mad to present their next piece of "evidence". So, stick out your chest. The irony is delicious!
Thanks for the joke. Oh lol what a delicious irony cake.
Stating your view over and over, a view that is looked upon as incredibly ignorant to anyone with the facts, does not make it true. Please come out from your little shell, get informed, stfu and try to make a difference.
No, the irony here is that you choose to flame the neutral guy...
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No, the irony here is that you choose to flame the neutral guy...
What the fuck are you talking about? Treminator's response is far from neutral, at the very least showing an indifference to the future of the human race is not neutral.
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What the fuck are you talking about? Treminator's response is far from neutral, at the very least showing an indifference to the future of the human race is not neutral.
Wow, talk about an alarmist. Here this thread is, discussing whether or not Global Warming is a myth, and you go treating it like it's a fact.
Cold. Hot. Makes no difference to me. I'll just wear tight ridged corduroy jeans and rub my legs together really fast if I feel like getting any warmer.
[sniff. sniff.] What's that smell? Use your nose and follow the subsidized money trail for all these scientific studies, both pro and con alike (for and against).
Sounds pretty neutral to me.
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You guys are getting crazy on me. Don't be flame-tards please.
Global warming and the greenhouse effect are different!
Greenhouse effect: Proven. The natural CO2 in the atmosphere traps heat, allowing us to be a little warmer than the moon.
Global Warming: Unproven. Apocalyptic theory that due to human use of fossil fuels, the polar ice caps will melt, the Earth will flood, and everyone will die. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to research the flaw in this one. Over the billions of years since the Earth was created, it has gone through cycles of warmer and colder. It has gone through many cycles. There is no reason for the cycles to change. It will just get warmer for a while--not due to humans--and then it will get cooler. It may wipe out human civilization, but if you treehuggers are all worried about the environment, your attitude should be "maybe the best thing for the Earth is for human civilization to be wiped out."
If you guys need something to worry about, it should be the moon. Every year, the moon gets a few centimeters further away, and its stabilizing effect on the Earth is getting weaker. Before the Earth floods, it will lose its hold on the moon and spin out of control, sending us whirling through ice ages and lava flows at an incredible rate. Google it if you don't believe me. It's a fact, found through computer simulation.
Good point, el bud de flood. I actually did not know about the moon thing. I'll have to look it up. I personally believe that the we (mankind) do not have the power to destroy the earth. With a whole bunch of nukes, we could make it pretty damn unlivable her for a while- we could definitely wipe out ourselves. But the earth is the biggest heat and radiation sink around us. Eventually the radiation and increased heat would die down, the dust would settle, and Nature would continue to grow and plod along at her usual pace, regardless and unheeding of her temporary tenants' eviction.
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It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the polar ice caps are melting. As a geologist I feel sad to read these bullshit and I feel urged to work more to give the public factual information, so that they will no longer be misinformed.
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It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the polar ice caps are melting. As a geologist I feel sad to read these bullshit and I feel urged to work more to give the public factual information, so that they will no longer be misinformed.
Oh, mighty sleekslacker, please have mercy on us ignorant...
...Shut the fuck up. I try not to swear too often, but now you're just being condescending. And being condescending is really, really annoying. Please. Save the "you poor misinformed" for the misinformed. Thanks. There are scientists riding on both sides of the global warming coin, so we could each spend hours presenting evidence we've looked up for either side of the equation. I respect that you have opinions, even respect that they are different from mine. But condescend on me and be flamed. Bear that in mind for the future.
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Hmm.. perhaps I should make it clear, that global warming has been proven and should be recognized by any self-respecting scientist. It's the cause of this global warming that is being debated about. Is it anthropogenic or not ? That's the question. If it's, then humanity should reduce their activity as that's the cheapest solution to this problem.
Again, "does global warming exist at all ?" is not the question. That was 10 years ago. Today, it's "are we the cause to global warming or not ?".
I can't just STFU when you just ignore the facts.
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Oh, yes?
He ignores the facts, does he?
Care to look at your last thread?
At the PM's I sent you and your responses to them?
Why the fuck should we stop our 'spam'?
"I can't just STFU when you just ignore the facts."
Our point will be heard and acknowledged.
Asshole.
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What the fuck are you talking about? Treminator's response is far from neutral, at the very least showing an indifference to the future of the human race is not neutral
Wow, talk about an alarmist. Here this thread is, discussing whether or not Global Warming is a myth, and you go treating it like it's a fact.
Could that be *close your eye's now* because it IS a fact? The evidence is out there, fucking read it sometime. People like yourself are incredibly ignorant. You argue against the facts that have been presented by scientists all over the world. They don't appreciate the bullshit of some 15 year old fucktard telling them that they are wrong and should go fuck themselves. Get a fucking education on the topic you are trying to get involved in before shouting your mouth off.
Even if your attitude is 'Oh fuck this global warming shit, the Earth has its warming trends." Really? No shit. That was known years ago, if not longer. The thing is, the Greenhouse effect has been exponentially increased with the industrial age. The Earth is now looking at an average temperature increase of 1.4 to 5.8 Celsius degrees (2.5 to 10.4 Fahrenheit degrees) by the year 2100. Denying the existence of Global Warming is fucking over future generations of mankind. Humans may not be able to stop global warming, but there's no reason why they can't help slow the rate at which the earth warms.
Hmm.. perhaps I should make it clear, that global warming has been proven and should be recognized by any self-respecting scientist. It's the cause of this global warming that is being debated about. Is it anthropogenic or not ? That's the question. If it's, then humanity should reduce their activity as that's the cheapest solution to this problem.
Again, "does global warming exist at all ?" is not the question. That was 10 years ago. Today, it's "are we the cause to global warming or not ?".
I can't just STFU when you just ignore the facts.
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Okay, Global warming is occuring, and sorry Kobra, but you are pretty ignorant to deny that.
Who cares?
Humans will adapt, the strongest of us will, atleast.
We, as a race, will survive, who cares if the earth heats up?
Half of us will die off, and eventually the earth will cool back down to a 'normal' temperature, we can start rebuilding the civilization.
Oh, and by 2100, I expect there will be interplanetary travel, offworld colonies, and extraterrestrials will expose themselves and make first contact.
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We are not sure if the cycle will repeat itself again. After all 1000 years ago we didn't have industrialization taking place. No heavy machineries and cars to pollute the air.
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i didnt read your links but i dont believe in global warming
if we had an ice age without man 'breaking the ecosystem' we can have a fireage without man 'breaking the ecosystem.'
Die Bush supporter!!!
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Oh, and by 2100, I expect there will be interplanetary travel, offworld colonies, and extraterrestrials will expose themselves and make first contact.
every hear of "2001-A Space Odyssey"? It was not quite so extreme, yet we are nowhere near that point.
And i hope you were joking. Do you honestly think all that will happen in less than 100 years?
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When Odyssey was written they had no hopes whatsoever of that for 2k1. They had not the technology to even begin dreaming of that stuff. Our technological knowledge doubles almost anually, and you don't believe that will happen in the near future?
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100 is too close IMO. it may happen though, depending upon how we use our rapidly dimishing resources and how quick we can recover if global warming becomes to serious.
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Could that be *close your eye's now* because it IS a fact? The evidence is out there, fucking read it sometime. People like yourself are incredibly ignorant. You argue against the facts that have been presented by scientists all over the world. They don't appreciate the bullshit of some 15 year old fucktard telling them that they are wrong and should go fuck themselves. Get a fucking education on the topic you are trying to get involved in before shouting your mouth off.
Even if your attitude is 'Oh fuck this global warming shit, the Earth has its warming trends." Really? No shit. That was known years ago, if not longer. The thing is, the Greenhouse effect has been exponentially increased with the industrial age. The Earth is now looking at an average temperature increase of 1.4 to 5.8 Celsius degrees (2.5 to 10.4 Fahrenheit degrees) by the year 2100. Denying the existence of Global Warming is fucking over future generations of mankind. Humans may not be able to stop global warming, but there's no reason why they can't help slow the rate at which the earth warms.
Mmmm, you know, now that you mention it, I DO believe every little bit of BS that little Jonny Dipshit posts on the internet about how the world's gonna end.
There has in the past, (and even now, for some unknown reason) been largescale support for the THEORY of evolution, so much so that it is the only THEORY taught in schools. Yet, there are so many variables that contradict it, one of the biggest being the much more widely accepted Chaos Theory.
Your telling me that just because a clic of scientists has some weird religious belief that we all evolved from monkeys, and that the Earth is billions of years old that it's the truth?
You use the term "scientist" like it means they are gods or something... Scientists are wrong SOOOO much of the time. 98% of scientists used to say the world was flat... is it?
What you'll find looking back when your 80 or so, is that your grandchildren are going to be looking in their history books and saying "Holy fuck grandpa, did you REALLY buy into all that shit about Global Warming, just because some dipshit with glasses and a PHD in "Ozone Exploration" preached a little bit of doomsday shit at you?"
Much the contrary to what you may think, fact doesn't work on a democratic level. Just because a large percentage of uninformed faggots woke up one day and decided "OMG, I think it's getting warmer! We're all gonna die!" doesn't mean they are right. It simply means they are a bunch of uninformed faggots who spend their entire lives posting useless drivel on internet forums and saving up pennies in a jar so that one day they can install solar panels on their roof.
Oh, btw, I'm 18.
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Is this supposed to change my and/or any observers views? If anything, this only supports my previous reply.
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kobrakaine, the way you post, it seems as if you don't remotely believe in global warming. and scientists back then were not really scientists. they made guesses without testing them, and thier views were controlled by the church.
scientists nowadays test things and are secular. the technology that is available helps test these sort of things. in my physics class, the teacher went over global warming, showing us numerous pieces of evidence from reliable resources. unfortunately, i am too lazy to go and find any evidence for myself (or ask my teacher for his just so i can post on this forum). you can say that i am just spitting out bullshit if you like.
a couple decades or so ago, global warming was unsure. this is why so many of of older folks are still unsure of global warming. it's how they were raised. right now, however, it is proven fact. nothing else.
note: please don't resort to flaming. i have not insulted you, and i expect the same from you. any constructive criticism is welcome. but saying i am a "shithead and don't deserve to breath" hurts your points more than it does mine.
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note: please don't resort to flaming. i have not insulted you, and i expect the same from you. any constructive criticism is welcome. but saying i am a "shithead and don't deserve to breath" hurts your points more than it does mine.
Oh, but it paints a much more vivid picture when I do... :P
Mk, I'll refrain from flaming any quotes or responses by you, cuz you have been pretty civil about things. Please understand this does NOT mean I agree with you over the global warming issue, however.
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I rest my case .. maybe
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You cant stop global worming!!!! What do you porpose? To start bening tree huggers or shut down all factories stop dirving cars etc????
This requers a global change or a breakthrough in science. :evil:
The strong humans will overlive it just like ice age. The weak once will die out. Just another natural selection(exept now its also beist on whow smart you are and not just strong). The worst that can happen is just another dark age not more.
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You cant stop global worming!!!! What do you porpose? To start bening tree huggers or shut down all factories stop dirving cars etc????
This requers a global change or a breakthrough in science. :evil:
The strong humans will overlive it just like ice age. The weak once will die out. Just another natural selection(exept now its also beist on whow smart you are and not just strong). The worst that can happen is just another dark age not more.
English, motha-f-! Do you speak it?!
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English, motha-f-! Do you speak it?!
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No I obuse it.