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Community => Servers => Topic started by: Surge on April 24, 2007, 01:00:33 pm

Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: Surge on April 24, 2007, 01:00:33 pm
who is running the new boom boom server?

its in texas

at least my ping is higher now...
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: Door Slammer on April 24, 2007, 06:26:37 pm
This server is not affiliated with Boom Boom or with www.fragify.com

Looks like someone is trying to steal GUIDs or get a popular server right off the bat.
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: -:GoDz:-Devil on April 24, 2007, 07:02:17 pm
Hmmm looks that way.
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: TheHumpingSpider on April 24, 2007, 09:19:32 pm
Does anyone have any more information about this server?
Contact info, known admins, anything?
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: ^Black on April 24, 2007, 10:13:18 pm
The Newer TJW clients prevent GUID stealing, correct?

Edit: I ask because I played there, and several well known and skilled players were given admin rights there as well.
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: Mr.Fox on April 24, 2007, 10:58:43 pm
Looks like someone can't be creative enough to come up with there own name.  I can see if you were affiliated with the other server in any way, but your not!  I am one of the two server-ops on the real boom boom #Virginia, USA# and you have nothing to do with us!  

I am all about someone creating there own server, but man can't you be creative enough to have your own name rather than act as though you are in some way connected to Boom Boom so that you can hopefully populate your server.
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: TheHumpingSpider on April 24, 2007, 11:07:47 pm
Quote from: "^Black"
The Newer TJW clients prevent GUID stealing, correct?


The GUID is needed by the server to give the set rights. The server ops would be able to see this clearly, especially if they change their level. In which case their GUID would be in the "admin.dat" config file. Depending on the configuration of admin permissions, certain admins would also be able to view the GUID in game.

The real Boom Boom (Fragify.com) has had an issue with server ops noting the GUID of some of our (Boom Boom community) admins already. I hope that this is just an attempt to gain popularity quickly, but I fear that this is an attempt to trick our admins into going to the wrong server, which could cause serious problems.
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: benmachine on April 24, 2007, 11:26:38 pm
Quote from: "TheHumpingSpider"
Quote from: "^Black"
The Newer TJW clients prevent GUID stealing, correct?


The GUID is needed by the server to give the set rights. The server ops would be able to see this clearly, especially if they change their level. In which case their GUID would be in the "admin.dat" config file. Depending on the configuration of admin permissions, certain admins would also be able to view the GUID in game.

The real Boom Boom (Fragify.com) has had an issue with server ops noting the GUID of some of our (Boom Boom community) admins already. I hope that this is just an attempt to gain popularity quickly, but I fear that this is an attempt to trick our admins into going to the wrong server, which could cause serious problems.

Yes, but some clients not only make the GUIDs much harder to fake (impossible without editing the source) they also generate server-specific GUIDs so that going to SST with the GUID you stole off someone in your new server will not help you at all because they have a different GUID on SST and your stolen GUID is not linked with their admin there.
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: Jet on April 25, 2007, 12:22:14 am
Quote from: "Door Slammer"
This server is not affiliated with Boom Boom or with www.fragify.com

Looks like someone is trying to steal GUIDs or get a popular server right off the bat.


i dont think it's a guid stealer, i mean come on if he was, wouldn't he give admins to people? people begged for admins and yet the person didn;t get admin so im guessing

A. he's a dumb guid stealer
B. trying to have a popular server
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: Caveman on April 25, 2007, 12:26:00 am
Jet, to steal a GUID you don't need to give the players any level.
Have a look into the server-logs .)
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: Surge on April 25, 2007, 08:34:22 am
so who runs it?
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: Mr.Fox on April 25, 2007, 08:36:51 am
Quote from: "Surge"
so who runs it?


The only name that I can get is "an|me" is one of the admins.  Whether or not he is running it who knows?
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: Surge on April 25, 2007, 09:07:02 am
cool since is a cheap copy i would like to find out who runs it

if you find out, pm me and i will flame  and spam his email

i dont support plagarism

 :evil:  :-?
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: Caveman on April 25, 2007, 11:17:41 am
lol
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: Ranger on April 25, 2007, 03:42:02 pm
Quote from: "Caveman"
lol
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: Rabbitt on April 25, 2007, 04:13:05 pm
Look to figure out whos running it your ever playing and happen to see a 0-10 ping thats your culprit other then that no idea how to figure it out.
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: -:GoDz:-Devil on April 25, 2007, 04:16:43 pm
I can get the IP of the server and look into who is providing the internet for them, and I can also look into my servers to see if I can find a direct IP and it will give you who is hosting the server.
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: Caveman on April 25, 2007, 04:23:00 pm
Devil that is something everyone can do .)
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: Rabbitt on April 25, 2007, 04:29:17 pm
only thing i could do is run a tracer on it and what isp they give me in a general area.
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: Lakitu7 on April 25, 2007, 05:20:05 pm
Quote from: "^Black"
The Newer TJW clients prevent GUID stealing, correct?

Edit: I ask because I played there, and several well known and skilled players were given admin rights there as well.


If they have cl_guidServerUnique 1, then yes. This defaults to 0, in which case no, they are not protected.

guidServerUnique gives you a different GUID for each server, such that your GUID on the "bad" server will not work if someone tries to use it to impersonate you on the "good" server.
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: Smokey on April 25, 2007, 06:17:09 pm
Quote from: "Jet"
Quote from: "Door Slammer"
This server is not affiliated with Boom Boom or with www.fragify.com

Looks like someone is trying to steal GUIDs or get a popular server right off the bat.


i dont think it's a guid stealer, i mean come on if he was, wouldn't he give admins to people? people begged for admins and yet the person didn;t get admin so im guessing

A. he's a dumb guid stealer
B. trying to have a popular server

Jet you're an idiot.
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: -:GoDz:-Devil on April 25, 2007, 07:12:13 pm
Quote from: "Caveman"
Devil that is something everyone can do .)

Well why dont anyone do it then, I have yet to see anyone post anything about his IP or even mention looking into who is hosting it, all I see is somene asking to find out who it is.  Yea of course I know anyone can do it, but I offered myself to do it to save trouble from everyone going in having to shutdown there server to look into the logs.  

Now anything else further you like to say to me?
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: Caveman on April 25, 2007, 08:51:52 pm
lol "shuting down the server" to look at the logs? maaan, get a clue, will you?
If have the server-browser, just  do a "server-info" and viola, you have the IP.
Then do a whois on the IP et voila you have the Owner and hoster, heck even with his full address...

If someone can't be bothered to do that himself, he should be ignored.

btw that IS in the 101 of internet-usage...

So you go ahead and shut down your server just to get the IP and the addresses. roflols
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: Mr.Fox on April 25, 2007, 09:10:51 pm
Quote from: "-:GoDz:-Devil"
I can get the IP of the server and look into who is providing the internet for them, and I can also look into my servers to see if I can find a direct IP and it will give you who is hosting the server.


If you want to offer your services on this and want to do this go ahead, just post back here if you want or you can PM me!  Thanks
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: Paradox on April 25, 2007, 10:17:32 pm
In game guid stealing 101:
Get slot of player
Run /rcon dumpuser #
condump

Presto. You see their full guid, no huge logfiles to download.
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: Caveman on April 25, 2007, 11:09:17 pm
cat games.log | grep connect | grep -v XXX
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: squishy on April 25, 2007, 11:30:31 pm
I just call it weak sauce.

And I call for a Ban from Master List!

k.thx.
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: Mr.Fox on April 26, 2007, 12:10:12 am
Quote from: "digifad"
I just call it weak sauce.

And I call for a Ban from Master List!

k.thx.


I second that motion!
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: Menace13 on April 26, 2007, 12:43:26 am
Quote from: "Mr.Fox"
Quote from: "digifad"
I just call it weak sauce.

And I call for a Ban from Master List!

k.thx.


I second that motion!

I third it. The REAL BoomBoom is the only one of its kind: Good players, good server, no cheapstakes. :P





BAN HIM!!!
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: KamikOzzy on April 26, 2007, 01:39:56 am
The server admin spoke with me, seemed rather friendly, and seemed to know my who I was. I don't find him malicious at all, just trying to remain anonymous. It's a decent server as far as I can tell, if there's any server that needs a ban, its S11, not this one.
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: Jet on April 26, 2007, 01:59:44 am
Quote from: "Smokey"
Quote from: "Jet"
Quote from: "Door Slammer"
This server is not affiliated with Boom Boom or with www.fragify.com

Looks like someone is trying to steal GUIDs or get a popular server right off the bat.


i dont think it's a guid stealer, i mean come on if he was, wouldn't he give admins to people? people begged for admins and yet the person didn;t get admin so im guessing

A. he's a dumb guid stealer
B. trying to have a popular server

Jet you're an idiot.
Agreed , ive been acting stupid lately ><
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: TheHumpingSpider on April 26, 2007, 02:04:06 am
Quote from: "KamikOzzy"
The server admin spoke with me, seemed rather friendly, and seemed to know my who I was. I don't find him malicious at all, just trying to remain anonymous. It's a decent server as far as I can tell, if there's any server that needs a ban, its S11, not this one.


If he is a halfway decent guy, he'd consider changing the name, at least. Would you mind asking this "anonymous" op to do so? This isn't fair to the Boom Boom community.
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: Surge on April 26, 2007, 06:02:03 am
Quote from: "Menace13"
Quote from: "Mr.Fox"
Quote from: "digifad"
I just call it weak sauce.

And I call for a Ban from Master List!

k.thx.


I second that motion!

I third it. The REAL BoomBoom is the only one of its kind: Good players, good server, no cheapstakes. :P


I Fourth it

and anyone who knows the server's operator should pm me

so i can





BAN  and flame HIM!!! :D
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: Raytray on April 27, 2007, 12:23:09 am
Surge, shut up.

Ozzy, why not get the guy to contact the ServerOwners of the original boom boom server and get affliated in some way?
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: squishy on April 27, 2007, 12:31:12 am
It's not like I own the name Boom Boom. I just picked it out of my nose. However, the owner of the new server should have enough creativity to come up with a name of his/her own.

Hell. I probably wouldn't even care if the new server carried the name if Mr.Fox or I were notified ahead of time.

*smooches!
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: Mr.Fox on April 27, 2007, 01:50:45 am
Quote from: "digifad"
It's not like I own the name Boom Boom. I just picked it out of my nose. However, the owner of the new server should have enough creativity to come up with a name of his/her own.

Hell. I probably wouldn't even care if the new server carried the name if Mr.Fox or I were notified ahead of time.

*smooches!


I am with Digifad on this, if they would have contacted us it would have been a completely different story I think!
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: TheHumpingSpider on April 27, 2007, 03:12:30 am
Well, it shouldn't be much of a deal now. It appears that the server has changed the name, or went of the list.

To the "anonymous" op: Thank you!  :)
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: KamikOzzy on April 28, 2007, 12:30:19 am
Not like we're personal friends....He's not going to listen to me before anyone else.
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Post by: Surge on May 01, 2007, 12:51:11 pm
Quote from: "No, Raytray"
Surge, shut up.


raytray i started this topic so

SHUT THE F*** UP AND GET THE F*** OUT
Title: new boom boom texas?
Post by: Caveman on May 01, 2007, 03:19:05 pm
You DO have some issues besides your ignorance about the internet...