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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: stalefries on April 27, 2007, 05:47:25 pm

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: stalefries on April 27, 2007, 05:47:25 pm

So, we all know the Tremulous icon. It's that funny-looking 8-bit dretch. In the TJW Mac client, there's a picture of the tyrant with sunglasses instead.

So I propose that a new icon be made. I've made one for myself already, of an armoury. It's a pretty iconic structure (pun not intended), and it looks fine cut out from a screenshot.
(http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/535/armouryth4.png) (http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/535/armouryth4.png)

So, what do you think? I have it in .png, .psd, and .icns (for Mac). PM me if you want a different size/format.
Download: http://mandarin.quickshareit.com/share/tremulousicone0502.zip

Title: eh
Post by: floodbud on April 27, 2007, 06:43:47 pm

I think both the retarded black dretch and the armory fail to communicate the true essence of Tremulous.  Perhaps a bloody human, in the act of falling over, with a red claw barely visible at the side?  I can't draw it, but you get the idea...Trem is awesome, the icon should be awesome.

___________________
Floodbud

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: David on April 27, 2007, 06:47:17 pm

icons are 16x16.
There is a limit to the detail you can get.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: stalefries on April 27, 2007, 06:52:31 pm

@floodbud: I think your idea is too complicated for an icon. Look at, say, the Firefox icon. It's not a screenshot of Google, with a mouse clicking "Search". It's a simple little fox around a globe, with simplified versions made for successive icon sizes.

@David:I originally designed the icon for my Mac, and icons on a Mac are 48x48 (not 128x128, sorry) and then have versions for smaller sizes  (from what I can tell). It's true that in Windows, the Start Menu and quick launch icons are 16x16, but the icons on your desktop and in folders are bigger than that (I'm not exactly sure how big).
Edit:  This page on the Tango Project's website (http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Theme_Guidelines#Sizes) says that Windows' desktop icon size is 32x32.

In my dock, the armoury is actually 16x16 or so, and it's prefectly recognizable. The armoury in itself needs very little detail to be recognizable.

Of course, your suggestions for alternate icons are always welcome.  :wink:

Edit, again: Here's a comparison of icon sizes. Note the dock snippet in the top-right:
(http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/6779/armourycomparisonmq4.png) (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=armourycomparisonmq4.png)

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Paradox on April 27, 2007, 07:38:05 pm

Um, search, we only have a new "logo/icon" thread every, what, half page?

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: stalefries on April 27, 2007, 07:41:53 pm

Paradox: I did search, and all I found was some sort of logo contest, full of gigantic banner-size images, with some fancy T's or whatever. I'm trying to suggest a new icon to replace the one that is currently shipped. This isn't some contest.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Glunnator on April 27, 2007, 07:46:45 pm

Tyrant w/ sunglasses RAWKS!

...OMG! u have Lugaru! :D

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: stalefries on April 27, 2007, 07:58:08 pm

Glunnator: only the demo, sadly. :(

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Paradox on April 28, 2007, 12:33:24 am

I made a whole set of icons that could be used long ago:
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/46859980/
It includes most buildables and classes, each icon at every size.
(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/6383/humanbo5.th.jpg) (http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/6383/humanbo5.jpg)
(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4553/aliendq3.th.jpg) (http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4553/aliendq3.jpg)

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Kaleo on April 28, 2007, 06:39:27 am

Quote from: "stalefries"

(http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/6779/armourycomparisonmq4.png) (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=armourycomparisonmq4.png)

Ooh, Lugaru...

Fun, fun game.

I mean, BUNNIE NINJAS!!!

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Mispeled on April 28, 2007, 03:44:26 pm

The current mac icon is pretty cool... I've never seen the windows icon, though, but couldn't you just change it to the current mac icon?

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Glunnator on April 28, 2007, 04:07:14 pm

Quote from: "stalefries"

Glunnator: only the demo, sadly. :(

Me 2  :cry:

Quote from: "Mispeled"

The current mac icon is pretty cool... I've never seen the windows icon, though, but couldn't you just change it to the current mac icon?

I agree!  :D

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: f0rqu3 on April 28, 2007, 05:41:03 pm

(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6110/tremulouslk2.png)(http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/3848/tremulous4fr6.png)
(http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/4185/tremulous2ci0.png)(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8043/tremulous3et6.png)

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Paradox on April 28, 2007, 07:03:56 pm

Tyrant icon came from:
(http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1128/stannumawesomeuk2.jpg)

Gb frr guvf, cynl genafvg.

Decypher that and it will tell you where to see that. Most of you should allready know.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Raytray on April 28, 2007, 07:09:21 pm

Transit? :)

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Glunnator on April 28, 2007, 07:11:06 pm

Yeah I know where the pic is from and where to find the pic.
And you know, maybe it's right... maybe PC users aren't awesome enough for the tyrant with sunglasses... no, wait OBJECTION! Quite alot of my friendaz are awesome and only one of em even knows what a mac is!  :D

Aw, hell! Mac ftw, and I'm gonna keep the tyr, official or not!  8)

Title: Re: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Foobicam on April 28, 2007, 09:36:48 pm

Quote from: "stalefries"

So, we all know the Tremulous icon. It's that funny-looking 8-bit dretch. In the TJW Mac client, there's a picture of the tyrant with sunglasses instead.

So that's what that black blob on the menu is. :-)   I thought it was a Jackson Pollock.

I'd vote for a tyrant in sunglasses, if it could be made recognizable in 32x32, rather than a mundane old armory.  The transit poster tyrant, however, doesn't quite do it either - need some new artwork.

Title: my two cents OR a penny for your thoughts
Post by: player1 on April 28, 2007, 10:47:20 pm

<3 tyrant w/sunglasses, 'cept it's not freestanding like Mac icons

any Alien looks like a cool icon (Adv Mara with Electro-Bolt, FTW! \m/\m/111!!!111 73h M3741!!!)

somewhere on a Trem+Mac website is a link to replacing ur Mac icon with I-can't-remember-what

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Paradox on April 29, 2007, 12:47:08 am

In my icon set, there is a fairly high resolution tyrant rip. If anyone wants the full png (i cant remember if its in the zip), ill send it to them, its pretty big.

Title: Re: my two cents OR a penny for your thoughts
Post by: Foobicam on April 29, 2007, 08:55:04 pm

Quote from: "player1"

<3 tyrant w/sunglasses, 'cept it's not freestanding like Mac icons

any Alien looks like a cool icon (Adv Mara with Electro-Bolt, FTW! \m/\m/111!!!111 73h M3741!!!)

Unfortunately, aliens don't work well as small icons - at 16 or 32 pixels something with less detail like an armory or node would work better.  

32x32: (http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/1180/tyranticon32ga3.gif)
64x64: (http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/5203/tyranticon64td0.gif)
128x128: (http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/2918/tyranticon128as6.gif)

FYI, my original is here (http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6528/tyranticon2im6.jpg) (512x512, too large to politely include inline).

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: mooseberry on April 29, 2007, 09:04:25 pm

I think that the old icons are not very good.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Luker on April 30, 2007, 10:36:40 am

4 ideas:

-a neutral icon could be the planet you see when you start tremulous.

-a little human-telenode

-a haf-human/half dretch icon

-a half-blue/half red icon like this (from domination mod):
http://v1.risujin.org/tremulous/domination7.jpg
but instead of the A, we put the T, as in Tremulous, or a half-dretch/half-human_face icon

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: sleekslacker on April 30, 2007, 12:51:06 pm

WTF.. icons are just icons.. you only see it like 0.1% of the time you spend win Tremulous itself. If you really want a different icon you can replace the icon yourself in windows. Get a resource editor. As for me I'll witness its ugliness for 2 seconds, double click it and enjoy the game instead.

:whine: :whine: :whine: about people.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Superpie on April 30, 2007, 02:12:35 pm

Just a simple one like the old one with a normal-ish dretch.
(http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/9193/tremiconforumhd0.png)
Download: http://www.wikiupload.com/download_page.php?id=138070

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: n00b pl0x on April 30, 2007, 11:25:56 pm

Quote from: "Superpie"

Just a simple one like the old one with a normal-ish dretch.
(http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/9193/tremiconforumhd0.png)
Download: http://www.wikiupload.com/download_page.php?id=138070

its sposta be 32 x 32...

Title: how about for a Mac?
Post by: player1 on May 01, 2007, 03:34:17 am

Quote from: "n00b pl0x"

Quote from: "Superpie"

Just a simple one like the old one with a normal-ish dretch...

its sposta be 32 x 32...

It's nice. Simple, clean, elegant. I like it. Although I'm too lazy/busy/unconcerned to replace mine anytime soon. Would be my choice for the icon for future iterations, though.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: _Equilibrium_ on May 01, 2007, 03:41:39 am

my icon looks a lot like the black dretch in f0rqu3's post. i don't know where you guys are getting this "tyrants w/ sunglasses" from.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: TriedtoDestroyMetal on May 01, 2007, 03:48:13 am

the black dretch sucks for those of us with dark wallpapers. I like the battlesuitbj6 icon. I would also like to see the planet icon, with a bit of that milky way behind/infront of it.

Title: It came with the game...
Post by: player1 on May 01, 2007, 03:55:39 am

Quote from: "_Equilibrium_"

my icon looks a lot like the black dretch in f0rqu3's post. i don't know where you guys are getting this "tyrants w/ sunglasses" from.

The Mac client. :D

And, yeah, the battlesuit that looks shinier with a black outline in Paradox's post is really cool.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Superpie on May 01, 2007, 03:39:49 pm

Quote from: "n00b pl0x"

Quote from: "Superpie"

Just a simple one like the old one with a normal-ish dretch.
(http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/9193/tremiconforumhd0.png)
Download: http://www.wikiupload.com/download_page.php?id=138070

its sposta be 32 x 32...

It is, that's a screenshot if the icon in my start menu.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 02, 2007, 07:34:16 pm

I don't get it. There isnt a specific size, the best icons are usually scalable(ie. svg on linux) so it can be used at any size for whatever program/dock/panel/shortcut/etc you want to use it for.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: a Turret on May 04, 2007, 08:24:39 am

I was bored so i decided to give it a go to make an icon :P I couldn't think of anything to do so I used the alien interface and edited so that the circle goes all the way around.

128x128
Boosted - (http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/9486/128boosteddm4.png)
Normal - (http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/8995/128cd9.png)

64x64
Boosted - (http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/6226/64boosteddv5.png)
Normal - (http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/750/64xz1.png)

48x48
Boosted - (http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4278/48boostedkx8.png)
Normal - (http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8629/48ib0.png)

32x32
Boosted - (http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/7403/32boostedga0.png)
Normal - (http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4729/32gp7.png)

22x22
Boosted - (http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9274/22boostedpl5.png)
Normal - (http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/1999/22dc7.png)

16x16
Boosted - (http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/7003/16boostednt2.png)
Normal - (http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5936/16qo4.png)

12x12
Boosted - (http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/8108/12boosteden3.png)
Normal - (http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/7633/12af6.png)

DOWNLOADS
.PSD, .RAR, .ZIP, .PNG files can all be downloaded from http://mardow4.100webspace.net/TremIcons/

All Icons
.RAR - http://mardow4.100webspace.net/TremIcons/RAR/AllTremIcons.rar (Copy and paste in new window)
.ZIP - http://mardow4.100webspace.net/TremIcons/ZIP/AllTremIcons.zip (Copy and paste in new window)

Boosted Icons
.RAR - http://mardow4.100webspace.net/TremIcons/RAR/BoostedTremIcons.rar (Copy and paste in new window)
.ZIP - http://mardow4.100webspace.net/TremIcons/ZIP/BoostemTremIcons.zip (Copy and paste in new window)

Non-Boosted Icons
.RAR - http://mardow4.100webspace.net/TremIcons/RAR/Non-BoostedTremIcons.rar (Copy and paste in new window)
.ZIP - http://mardow4.100webspace.net/TremIcons/ZIP/Non-BoostedTremIcons.zip (Copy and paste in new window)

Designer's Set (PSDs, PNGs, ICOs)
.RAR - http://mardow4.100webspace.net/TremIcons/RAR/DesignersSet.rar
.ZIP - http://mardow4.100webspace.net/TremIcons/ZIP/DesignersSet.zip

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: f0rqu3 on May 04, 2007, 08:26:32 am

nice boosted version could look better though

btw no megaupload please

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: David on May 04, 2007, 08:28:24 am

cool!
I like that one.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: a Turret on May 04, 2007, 08:28:54 am

Quote from: "f0rqu3"

nice boosted version could look better though

btw no megaupload please

Done

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 04, 2007, 05:07:50 pm

very nice ;)

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: rapha on May 04, 2007, 07:16:57 pm

Quote from: "a Turret"

(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9008/32ic9.png)

Best attempt ever at a Trem icon.
It'd have my vote if there was a vote option for it...

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 04, 2007, 07:55:18 pm

Quote from: "rapha"

Quote from: "a Turret"

(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9008/32ic9.png)

Best attempt ever at a Trem icon.
It'd have my vote if there was a vote option for it...

Same here, it should be included in the trem packages

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: David on May 04, 2007, 09:35:19 pm

SVG version: http://Mercenariesguild.net/files/590619

EDIT: made using a Turret icon as template.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: a Turret on May 04, 2007, 10:31:02 pm

thnx for all the positive feed back :)

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Plague Bringer on May 04, 2007, 10:35:15 pm

Take the lightning bolt, replace it with a T, and you have the Tremulous icon of the century.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: a Turret on May 04, 2007, 10:45:16 pm

alright will do :)

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Plague Bringer on May 04, 2007, 10:46:00 pm

;D

Keep the original, though, incase my idea turns out to be crap.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: The MC Horton Crankfire on May 05, 2007, 01:27:39 am

What's with all the icons, real and suggested, being geared towards the aliens? How 'bout something that represents the human side instead?

(http://www.ets-systems.com/rollingfork/images/tent.jpg)

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: AKAnotu on May 05, 2007, 02:17:16 am

genius

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: a Turret on May 05, 2007, 05:19:55 am

Quote from: "Plague Bringer"

Take the lightning bolt, replace it with a T, and you have the Tremulous icon of the century.

To difficult, it doens't look right,

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Kaleo on May 05, 2007, 06:46:13 am

(http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5820/picture6qy7.png)

Anyone want it? Ask me and I'll upload it to my filefront!

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Odin on May 05, 2007, 06:53:17 am

Does anybody have a high-res side-view of the rifle? I'd like to try to make something out of that.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: The MC Horton Crankfire on May 05, 2007, 08:19:20 am

Quote from: "Kaleo"

Anyone want it? Ask me and I'll upload it to my filefront!

(http://www.acc.umu.se/~zqad/cats/1174329819-415285564_7c0ccc29e4.jpg)

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Plague Bringer on May 05, 2007, 12:55:02 pm

Quote from: "a Turret"

Quote from: "Plague Bringer"

Take the lightning bolt, replace it with a T, and you have the Tremulous icon of the century.

To difficult, it doens't look right,

Aww, okay. Well, worth a shot, right?

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Glunnator on May 05, 2007, 02:43:02 pm

Quote from: "f0rqu3"

nice boosted version could look better though

I completely agree.

This looks like it's worthy to actually work. :D

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 05, 2007, 02:45:40 pm

Making a "boosted" version now. Its in svg so it can be scaled to any size properly. Im nearly finished, just need to upload it.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 05, 2007, 03:01:20 pm

128x128
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/trem_icon/128.png)

64x64
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/trem_icon/64.png)

48x48
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/trem_icon/48.png)

32x32
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/trem_icon/32.png)

22x22
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/trem_icon/22.png)

16x16
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/trem_icon/16.png)

12x12
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/trem_icon/12.png)

SVG (http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/trem_icon/trem_icon.svg)

Everything as a RAR file: Here (http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/trem_icon.rar)

Everything as a ZIP file: Here (http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/trem_icon.zip)

Everything as a Tar.BZ2 file: Here (http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/trem_icon.tar.bz2)

I traced a Turret's icon using bezier curves in Inkscape to make this.

@a Turret: Hope I'm not hijacking your icons. ;)

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: rapha on May 05, 2007, 03:07:52 pm

Hmm... I liked 'the original' (w/o T) better.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 05, 2007, 03:11:58 pm

Yeah, I know what you mean, the T doesn't go well as "a Turret" said.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Plague Bringer on May 05, 2007, 03:19:27 pm

Yeah, does the T look a little too cartoony to anyone else?

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 05, 2007, 03:20:35 pm

hmm...sorry, david, I din't see your post before. *looking embarrased*

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 05, 2007, 03:35:09 pm

If you do want the T, what font do you want it in? That was a cartoony font.

New version with lightening bolt (curtesy of David's svg)  instead of T.

128x128
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/trem_icon2/128.png)

64x64
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/trem_icon2/64.png)

48x48
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/trem_icon2/48.png)

32x32
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/trem_icon2/32.png)

22x22
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/trem_icon2/22.png)

16x16
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/trem_icon2/16.png)

12x12
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/trem_icon2/12.png)

SVG (http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/trem_icon2/trem_icon.svg)

Everything as a RAR file: Here (http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/trem_icon2.rar)

Everything as a ZIP file: Here (http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/trem_icon2.zip)

Everything as a Tar.BZ2 file: Here (http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/trem_icon2.tar.bz2)

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: rapha on May 05, 2007, 03:39:17 pm

Maybe the T from the forum logo? Just an idea...

... or you could put the MOTY award into the Ring of Fire :D

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 05, 2007, 03:45:27 pm

Im trying the tremulous logo T, anyone have any idea what font it uses? I can always trace it but it would be easier and better to have the font.

Quote

... or you could put the MOTY award into the Ring of Fire

That won't look good in the long run. The icon is for tremulous, not for MOTY

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 05, 2007, 04:03:41 pm

I tried to keep the colour scheme the same but not sure if it looks better or worse so here are some test images.

T in Orange: (http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/orange.png)

T in White: (http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/white.png)

So, what do you think?

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Plague Bringer on May 05, 2007, 04:04:24 pm

Get rid of the outline and soften it up a bit.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: David on May 05, 2007, 04:29:56 pm

There is some great work here.
I would so use this as my tremulous icon, if I had any links...

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: rapha on May 05, 2007, 04:30:28 pm

Quote from: "durand"

Im trying the tremulous logo T, anyone have any idea what font it uses? I can always trace it but it would be easier and better to have the font.

DASPRiD should know, after all he made the website.

Quote from: "durand"

Quote

... or you could put the MOTY award into the Ring of Fire

That won't look good in the long run. The icon is for tremulous, not for MOTY

Ur, that was meant as a joke  :D

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: rapha on May 05, 2007, 04:42:18 pm

Quote from: "Plague Bringer"

Get rid of the outline and soften it up a bit.

Aye, play a bit with it. Not sure if the outline should completely go; maybe the lighter red from the outer areas.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: rapha on May 05, 2007, 04:43:50 pm

Quote from: "David"

There is some great work here.
I would so use this as my tremulous icon, if I had any links...

He posted the images right here - what do you need links to?  :roll:

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: David on May 05, 2007, 04:55:23 pm

I meant if I had a link to launch tremulous on my desktop or whatever.
Also, why do you keep telling him to change the T?
the SVG is right there, play with it yourself.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: rapha on May 05, 2007, 05:14:25 pm

I'm not "telling" him, I'm (actually, we're) making suggestions, for which he has asked iirc. Calm down Dave.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: f0rqu3 on May 05, 2007, 05:17:35 pm

dudes we are definitely not a peaceful community
stop digging holes under eachother

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: a Turret on May 05, 2007, 05:36:26 pm

Feel free to change the icon all you want, I cant really take any credit or say you cant because i just rendered it and edited it to me full circle and simple color (since the opacity wasn't 100% in game)

Will make a boosted version now with the original Lightning Bolt (seems the other person changed the color for the lightning bolt when he made it boosted)


Maybe it can be THE icon for 1.2  :eek:

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: a Turret on May 05, 2007, 05:54:11 pm

btw. what is an .SVG?

What program can you use to open/save in?

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: David on May 05, 2007, 06:55:19 pm

SVG = Saleable Vector Graphic
The images are defined as a series of Bizer's , so the image is infinitely saleable.
Inkscape is a great and free program to edit them

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: a Turret on May 05, 2007, 07:23:28 pm

kay, going to download inkscape now and check it out, thnx

here is the updated post with the boosted included

Quote

128x128
Wallwalk - (http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/9486/128boosteddm4.png)
Normal - (http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/8995/128cd9.png)

64x64
Wallwalk - (http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/6226/64boosteddv5.png)
Normal - (http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/750/64xz1.png)

48x48
Wallwalk - (http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4278/48boostedkx8.png)
Normal - (http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8629/48ib0.png)

32x32
Wallwalk - (http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/7403/32boostedga0.png)
Normal - (http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4729/32gp7.png)

22x22
Wallwalk - (http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9274/22boostedpl5.png)
Normal - (http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/1999/22dc7.png)

16x16
Wallwalk - (http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/7003/16boostednt2.png)
Normal - (http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5936/16qo4.png)

12x12
Boosted - (http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/8108/12boosteden3.png)
Normal - (http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/7633/12af6.png)

DOWNLOADS
.PSD, .RAR, .ZIP, .PNG files can all be downloaded from http://mardow4.100webspace.net/TremIcons/

All Icons
.RAR - http://mardow4.100webspace.net/TremIcons/RAR/AllTremIcons.rar (Copy and paste in new window)
.ZIP - http://mardow4.100webspace.net/TremIcons/ZIP/AllTremIcons.zip (Copy and paste in new window)

Boosted Icons
.RAR - http://mardow4.100webspace.net/TremIcons/RAR/BoostedTremIcons.rar (Copy and paste in new window)
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Non-Boosted Icons
.RAR - http://mardow4.100webspace.net/TremIcons/RAR/Non-BoostedTremIcons.rar (Copy and paste in new window)
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Designer's Set (PSDs, PNGs, ICOs)
.RAR - http://mardow4.100webspace.net/TremIcons/RAR/DesignersSet.rar
.ZIP - http://mardow4.100webspace.net/TremIcons/ZIP/DesignersSet.zip

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: David on May 05, 2007, 08:18:21 pm

The difference between boosted and non-boosted doesn't seem that big...
Maybe the outer bits need to be brighter...

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: f0rqu3 on May 05, 2007, 08:49:43 pm

Quote from: "David"

The difference between boosted and non-boosted doesn't seem that big...
Maybe the outer bits need to be brighter...

doh it is not boosted it is wallwalking

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 05, 2007, 09:04:00 pm

How about this? Im assuming that orange is better, the white looks totally out of place.

Original:
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/orange.png)

Redone:
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/redone_orange.png)

Redone without the blur:
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/redone_noblur_orange.png)

I've blurred the outer ring of fire a bit, though im not sure that it looks so good.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: a Turret on May 05, 2007, 09:04:59 pm

Quote from: "f0rqu3"

Quote from: "David"

The difference between boosted and non-boosted doesn't seem that big...
Maybe the outer bits need to be brighter...

doh it is not boosted it is wallwalking

oops rofl, wrong one :x

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 05, 2007, 09:07:45 pm

Quote from: "a Turret"

Quote from: "f0rqu3"

Quote from: "David"

The difference between boosted and non-boosted doesn't seem that big...
Maybe the outer bits need to be brighter...

doh it is not boosted it is wallwalking

oops rofl, wrong one :x

So, thats what you meant by boosted.

Title: looks really cool
Post by: player1 on May 05, 2007, 10:29:56 pm

boosted & wallwalking both is best (poisonous headbite, ftw!)
would be "brighter"
borderless "T" looks better
64 X 64 looks about right for Mac dock
actually looks like an innocuous program icon
add minor bit of drop shadow to give depth?

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: f0rqu3 on May 05, 2007, 10:37:40 pm

add some gayness to it, I want glass looking ones

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: rapha on May 05, 2007, 11:21:45 pm

Quote from: "durand"

Redone without the blur:
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/redone_noblur_orange.png)

Rockzors, IMO. There appears to be a little corner of the lighting bolt above and below the T which is a bit annoying but apart from that let's make a vote for it to be included in 1.2 :-)

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: gareth on May 05, 2007, 11:23:35 pm

i much prefer the original.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Kaleo on May 06, 2007, 06:07:54 am

Here is a modified version of durands:

(http://static.filefront.com/images/personal/a/ATKaleo/89007/erpfqcgwow.jpg)
(http://static.filefront.com/ffv6/graphics/b_dl_now.gif) (http://files.filefront.com/Tremulous_icons_macwin.zip/;7441630;/fileinfo.html)

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 06, 2007, 12:06:03 pm

Quote from: "rapha"

Quote from: "durand"

Redone without the blur:
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/redone_noblur_orange.png)

Rockzors, IMO. There appears to be a little corner of the lighting bolt above and below the T which is a bit annoying but apart from that let's make a vote for it to be included in 1.2 :-)

How about this, I resized the lightening bolt so it is the same height as the T

Old: (http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/redone_noblur_orange.png)

New: (http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/resized_lightening_bolt.png)

Quote

add some gayness to it, I want glass looking ones

You mean, something like this?

(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/glassy_trem.png)

Kaleo, I like that icon but maybe you should line up the circle and the spikes more closely.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: f0rqu3 on May 06, 2007, 01:10:51 pm

from tremulous assets:

(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2880/spikesgn8.png)

and

remake in svg format:

http://www.mercenariesguild.net/tremx/bolt.svg

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 06, 2007, 04:54:55 pm

Nice, the image looks good but the svg isn't so sharp. Really gotta work out a way to get the spikes more spiky. All these icons including mine seem to have blunt edges...

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: TriedtoDestroyMetal on May 06, 2007, 06:23:11 pm

Quote from: "Kaleo"

Here is a modified version of durands:

(http://static.filefront.com/images/personal/a/ATKaleo/89007/erpfqcgwow.jpg)
(http://static.filefront.com/ffv6/graphics/b_dl_now.gif) (http://files.filefront.com/Tremulous_icons_macwin.zip/;7441630;/fileinfo.html)

That's a lot better, I appreciate that you gave it some depth with the dropshadow. That's a big improvement over the flat graphic, which I think would look out of place on today's desktops. The alien/human dynamic comes out well in this icon.

I have two suggestions. First, find another colour for the "T", one that contrasts well with the red and blue sides of the icon, without clashing. Second, and this may be argued succesfully against, see if you can add some depth to the shapes by employing gradients to give it a more 3D feeling. Of course, this would make the icon look less like the HUD icons, but it would make it fit in more with the contemporary style of icons that are found on most desktops.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 06, 2007, 06:45:35 pm

I tried experimenting with shadows as well.

(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/shadow_trem.png)

What do you think?

Kaleo, are you using svg's for that?

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Plague Bringer on May 06, 2007, 06:47:11 pm

IMO you should remove the glass effect around the circle (on the gray).

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: rapha on May 06, 2007, 06:51:45 pm

Quote from: "Plague Bringer"

IMO you should remove the glass effect around the circle (on the gray).

Seconded. Also, I find it a bit too strong... somehow like it was disguising the T (Maybe the T could break through somehow). Also what TriedtoDestroyMetal has said sounds interesting. It might make the half alien/half human icon become the best of what we've seen so far.

Before Dave tells me to shut up or put up again  :wink:  I'll also say thanks for working on this stuff and being so patient with all of our suggestions!

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 06, 2007, 06:52:16 pm

hmm...you mean, like this one?

(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/redone_noblur_orange.png)

I think I prefer the glassy one but let's see what other people think.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 06, 2007, 06:57:42 pm

Should I keep the shadow?

(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/trem_nogloss.png)

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: rapha on May 06, 2007, 07:02:01 pm

Quote from: "durand"

hmm...you mean, like this one?

(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/redone_noblur_orange.png)

I think I prefer the glassy one but let's see what other people think.

Not sure if I know what you mean... that one looks like a step back.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: rapha on May 06, 2007, 07:03:23 pm

Quote from: "durand"

Should I keep the shadow?

(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/trem_nogloss.png)

IMO the drop shadow looked nicer. I'd love to see how it would look if you elaborated on the half alien/half human version.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 06, 2007, 07:07:05 pm

Ill try the elaborations. Any idea where the images from the human side came from?

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: rapha on May 06, 2007, 07:29:53 pm

If I followed the conversation correctly, Kaleo made the human part from scratch... Kaleo dude, you listening?

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 06, 2007, 07:33:43 pm

Ok, im trying to reproduce what he/she did. Its quite hard to do it in Inkscape, for some reason, i cant get the boolean operations to work properly ><

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Plague Bringer on May 06, 2007, 07:35:15 pm

On the glassy image, the whole tophalf is shiny, why don't you make it so that the grey part is NOT shiny, but leave the rest.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: f0rqu3 on May 06, 2007, 07:36:50 pm

(http://www.mercenariesguild.net/tremx/boltgay.svg.png)
http://www.mercenariesguild.net/tremx/boltgay.svg.svgz

source:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Glasbutton_braun.svg

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 06, 2007, 07:40:01 pm

now Im really confused, what do you mean by the grey bit?
f0rqu3, that icon looks sweet!

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: f0rqu3 on May 06, 2007, 07:42:21 pm

pokeball :D catch 'em all

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Plague Bringer on May 06, 2007, 07:45:35 pm

AHHHHH!!!!!!

*PULLS OUT HAIR*

 :x  :x  :x  :x  :x  :x  :x



*Ahem

(http://xs115.xs.to/xs115/07180/AAAH.png)

Sheesh

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 06, 2007, 07:51:25 pm

uh, whats that supposed to be?

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: David on May 06, 2007, 08:06:35 pm

By 'the grey bit' I think they mean the transparent bit.
Also random point of note, transparency doesn't work in IE,  and looks borked to all the morons who still use it.

EDIT:
Made for a different project, but may be of interest to someone here.
http://Mercenariesguild.net/files/948731  <-- goon+ barb.
http://Mercenariesguild.net/files/686645  <-- the whole bit on the bottom left of the alien hud.

EDIT2:
Who has all the originals, and would it be possible to get hold of them?

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Plague Bringer on May 06, 2007, 08:40:23 pm

Transparancy works for me.

Oh, btw, that's the icon with the gray (transparent) part NON GLASSY.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: f0rqu3 on May 06, 2007, 09:10:13 pm

Quote from: "Plague Bringer"

Transparancy works for me.

Oh, btw, that's the icon with the gray (transparent) part NON GLASSY.

did someone say it was glassy? try to make sense

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Plague Bringer on May 06, 2007, 09:15:52 pm

Glass-esque, reflective.

Shuttup; you know what I mean.

EDIT; HOLY SHIT!!

THE T IS FROM THE TREMULOUS LOGO IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER! COOL!

Sorry, tired -.-;;

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: The MC Horton Crankfire on May 07, 2007, 05:16:14 am

How's this one work for ya?

(http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/7031/tremiconze8.png) (http://imageshack.us)

It might look a little over-the-top, so tell me if so. Also, the little wallwalking indicators were giving me trouble so I left them as is. Should I go ahead and change them, or are they ok?

EDIT: Wow, looks like ass against the dark background. Needs an outline, no?

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: TriedtoDestroyMetal on May 07, 2007, 05:21:56 am

Flip it in half with the human side, and add a drop shadow, and i'd pay nothing for it. But I sure would dl it :)

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 07, 2007, 11:26:58 am

That last icon looks nice! Did you make that in inkscape?

Quote

By 'the grey bit' I think they mean the transparent bit.
Also random point of note, transparency doesn't work in IE, and looks borked to all the morons who still use it.

EDIT:
Made for a different project, but may be of interest to someone here.
http://Mercenariesguild.net/files/948731 <-- goon+ barb.
http://Mercenariesguild.net/files/686645 <-- the whole bit on the bottom left of the alien hud.

EDIT2:
Who has all the originals, and would it be possible to get hold of them?

Well, the browser won't make any difference in the end. Whoever still uses IE should seriously consider Opera or Firefox!  :D

Oh, those icons are from chompers HUD, right?

Here is my try at Alien/Human combination icon.
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah.png)

Slightly more 3D version:
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_3d.png)

Better 3D version (too many changes):
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_3d2.png)
By the way, if anyone wants the svg, just ask!

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: rapha on May 07, 2007, 02:10:52 pm

Quote from: "durand"

Slightly more 3D version:
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_3d.png)

Oh YEAH! Very nicely done, you appear to be getting better and better at Inkscape  :wink:  ... the human side looks a bit strong than the alien side. Probably because of the color, or because it's a full circle or something.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Glunnator on May 07, 2007, 02:13:20 pm

I still kinda prefer just this one...

Quote from: "a Turret"

(http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/9486/128boosteddm4.png)

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: f0rqu3 on May 07, 2007, 02:19:04 pm

(http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/7425/boltgaysvgkf7.png)
without the gray bit

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 07, 2007, 02:27:30 pm

@f0qqu3 That looks cool as if it's ablaze. Try putting it on ur pokeball version.

Quote

I still kinda prefer just this one...

Yeah, I think i do too. The flatness works well as a logo, though maybe not as a program icon. Of all the icons so far, I think that one will scale the best, especially for windows users who use tiny icon non scalable sizes.

Oh and rapha, i find that icon too dark and that's what this one is for.

Quote from: "durand"

Better 3D version (too many changes):
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_3d2.png)

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: rapha on May 07, 2007, 02:59:21 pm

Quote from: "f0rqu3"

(http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/7425/boltgaysvgkf7.png)
without the gray bit

That is quite cool also. More minimalistic.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: rapha on May 07, 2007, 03:00:46 pm

Quote from: "durand"

Oh and rapha, i find that icon too dark and that's what this one is for.

Hmmm yeah I can see what you mean now...

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: techhead on May 07, 2007, 08:23:18 pm

For the bicolor logo, make the T cutout.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: stalefries on May 07, 2007, 09:16:57 pm

Quote from: "durand"

(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_3d2.png)
By the way, if anyone wants the svg, just ask!

I'd love to have the svg for that. I think that, without the "T", would be awesome.

Edit: You guys need to stop designing at 128x128. (I know this sounds hypocritical coming from me) These icons will probably turn out fine when you scale down the svg, but designing at a size that won't be used (except in certain cases on OSX) isn't the best idea. The Tango Icon Theme Guidelines (http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Theme_Guidelines) really have a lot of smart ideas about this kind of stuff, coming straight from professional icon designers.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: benmachine on May 07, 2007, 10:21:44 pm

Quote from: "stalefries"

(except in certain cases on OSX)

hello .o/ don't break my icons please :P

In my opinion, you should work with as large images as possible as contracting is easier than expanding. The kind of icons that look good small are pretty much the kind of icons that look good big, too.

I like f0rqu3's logo but it is a bit monochromatic, could do with some detail.
I think durand's is a touch too busy and I don't like the T (a pure image logo I think would be nice) but it is pretty and nicely symbolic.
Try cutting the diameter of the outer blue ring so it has approximately the same area as the red on the left.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: a Turret on May 07, 2007, 10:43:57 pm

Quote from: "stalefries"

Quote from: "durand"

(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_3d2.png)
By the way, if anyone wants the svg, just ask!

I'd love to have the svg for that. I think that, without the "T", would be awesome.

Edit: You guys need to stop designing at 128x128. (I know this sounds hypocritical coming from me) These icons will probably turn out fine when you scale down the svg, but designing at a size that won't be used (except in certain cases on OSX) isn't the best idea. The Tango Icon Theme Guidelines (http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Theme_Guidelines) really have a lot of smart ideas about this kind of stuff, coming straight from professional icon designers.

If you make it small then the people who use OSX will have itr pixelated,  you always work at the highest size and then you make it small (adjustments if needed).

Heres an Human vs Alien 1. (http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6889/untitled2mg6.png)

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: fleash eater on May 08, 2007, 03:11:12 am

Quote

If you make it small then the people who use OSX will have itr pixelated, you always work at the highest size and then you make it small (adjustments if needed).

Heres an Human vs Alien 1.

that is sweet, but needs to have a brighter color

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Glunnator on May 08, 2007, 03:59:00 pm

you more arty they become, the less they're like the trem HUD, and so less right for the game. Anyone follow me here? :-?

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: f0rqu3 on May 08, 2007, 04:16:09 pm

(http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/299/tremq3wc6.jpg)(http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1383/tremq3wc6hm9.png)

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 08, 2007, 05:30:12 pm

Quote from: "Glunnator"

you more arty they become, the less they're like the trem HUD, and so less right for the game. Anyone follow me here? :-?

I don't think I agree. This is supposed to be an icon for tremulous, not an ingame thing and if it looks arty, that might make the game look more professional. The icon kinda represents the theme of the game rather than the game itself.

Quote from: "stalefries"

Quote from: "durand"

(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_3d2.png)
By the way, if anyone wants the svg, just ask!

I'd love to have the svg for that. I think that, without the "T", would be awesome.

Edit: You guys need to stop designing at 128x128. (I know this sounds hypocritical coming from me) These icons will probably turn out fine when you scale down the svg, but designing at a size that won't be used (except in certain cases on OSX) isn't the best idea. The Tango Icon Theme Guidelines (http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Theme_Guidelines) really have a lot of smart ideas about this kind of stuff, coming straight from professional icon designers.

http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/trem_icon_ah.svg

I'm only designing in 128x128 because someone else started to design in that size and i guess i just wanted to keep the pattern. As it's SVG, it doesnt really matter anyway. On Linux and Mac, Im pretty sure the icons are usually SVGs and scalling won't be a problem. For those who use Windows, I've been checking that they look ok at the smaller sizes. Someone please remind me what the default icon size for windows is. 32x32 and 16x16, right?

Oh and I have been using the tango icons as a guide anyway, especially for the design techniques though I don't think tremulous and tango icons will go together well.

If anyone wants the icons in any other size, just say so.

Quote from: "benmachine"

I think durand's is a touch too busy and I don't like the T (a pure image logo I think would be nice) but it is pretty and nicely symbolic.
Try cutting the diameter of the outer blue ring so it has approximately the same area as the red on the left.

I was thinking of doing something similar to this one by a Turret.

Quote from: "a Turret"

Heres an Human vs Alien 1. (http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6889/untitled2mg6.png)

Instead of doing that, I was thinking of making a cog a bit like this one but in 2D :
(http://www.cyberspiesclub.com/downloads/scr/Cyberspies_Rebooted.jpg)

Quote from: "techhead"

For the bicolor logo, make the T cutout.

Do you mean removing the T and having a cut through the rest of the icon? A boolean operation? Anyway, thats what I'm trying now with different fonts.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Superpie on May 08, 2007, 08:26:19 pm

Quote from: "f0rqu3"

from tremulous assets:

(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2880/spikesgn8.png)

and

remake in svg format:

http://www.mercenariesguild.net/tremx/bolt.svg

Anyone have the human version? <3

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: stalefries on May 08, 2007, 10:18:56 pm

Quote from: "durand"

I'm only designing in 128x128 because someone else started to design in that size and i guess i just wanted to keep the pattern. As it's SVG, it doesnt really matter anyway.

Theoretically, that's true, but I think I say this best when I just link to someone else's arguments on the subject (http://jimmac.musichall.cz/weblog.php/Artwork/VectorBitmap.php).

Quote from: "durand"

On Linux and Mac, Im pretty sure the icons are usually SVGs and scalling won't be a problem.

From what I can tell, the default for Mac is .icns (which I've only seen on Macs, think .ico). For Linux, it really doesn't matter, although .svg and .png tend to be "standards."

Quote from: "durand"

For those who use Windows, I've been checking that they look ok at the smaller sizes. Someone please remind me what the default icon size for windows is. 32x32 and 16x16, right?

Yeah, 32 for desktop/Explorer, 16 for menus.

Quote from: "durand"

Oh and I have been using the tango icons as a guide anyway, especially for the design techniques though I don't think tremulous and tango icons will go together well.

True, they probably don't fit too well in general theme, although it would be interesting to try this out in a Tango style. I think I may try that.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 09, 2007, 06:12:23 pm

Go Jimmac :D
I haven't had much time to work on the icon yesterday and won't until friday when my coursework deadline has been reached. So until then...

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Superpie on May 09, 2007, 07:01:31 pm

Well I didn't make another icon but for some reason I can't explain I made a wallpaper...
http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/1725/tremwallpaper1280x1024cm7.png

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 09, 2007, 07:09:57 pm

nice wallpaper but too dark IMO

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: techhead on May 09, 2007, 09:59:47 pm

Use r_gamma 4.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 12, 2007, 01:55:14 pm

I've updated the icon as i said i would though I don't like it. Here it is:

128x128
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_reshaped/128.png)

64x64
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_reshaped/64.png)

48x48
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_reshaped/48.png)

32x32
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_reshaped/32.png)

22x22
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_reshaped/22.png)

16x16
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_reshaped/16.png)

12x12
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_reshaped/12.png)

SVG (http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_reshaped/trem_icon.svg)

Everything as a RAR file: Here (http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_reshaped.rar)

Everything as a ZIP file: Here (http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_reshaped.zip)

Everything as a Tar.BZ2 file: Here (http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_reshaped.tar.bz2)

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: f0rqu3 on May 12, 2007, 02:02:02 pm

Quote from: "durand"

I've updated the icon as i said i would though I don't like it. Here it is:

128x128
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_reshaped/128.png)

remove the bolt. T is unreadable

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 12, 2007, 02:07:54 pm

Thats one thing i really don't want to do, I like the bolt, maybe if i change the colours of the T? How about this:

Original: (http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_reshaped/128.png)
Dark T: (http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_darkerT.png)

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Glunnator on May 12, 2007, 02:44:25 pm

The bolt is stupid! That's not what human hud looks like! D:

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: f0rqu3 on May 12, 2007, 02:45:22 pm

Quote from: "Glunnator"

The bolt is stupid! That's not what human hud looks like! D:

stop using custom huds :roll:

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: stalefries on May 13, 2007, 05:49:56 am

Quote from: "durand"

I've updated the icon as i said i would though I don't like it. Here it is:
<a whole bunch of pictures>

I've taken the liberty of making a *real* .icns file out of this, as a nice drop-in for the Tremulous icon for Mac. Since I still like my Armoury a little more (although ah_reshaped is growing on me), I also made a real .icns for the Armoury.

Basically, .icns files include multiple images, designed at 16x18, 32x32, 48x48, and 128x128. Sort of like a compromise between vector and raster.

ah_reshaped.icns (http://orange.quickshareit.com/share/ah_reshapedcfdf8.zip)
armoury.icns (http://lime.quickshareit.com/share/armoury1521a.zip)

To use these as your icons (Mac users only), go to the folder where you have Tremulous installed. Right-click Tremulous, Show Package Contents. Navigate to Contents:Resources, copy/paste the icon you want, rename Icon.icns to something else, and name your favorite one to Icon.icns.

PS: durand, I think the icon would be a lot better if you either removed the T or the bolt. At the smaller sizes (but also at 128x128), they just clash and intersect too much to convey anything meaningful. The red and blue of the Trem HUD are really iconic as it is.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: n00b pl0x on May 13, 2007, 07:01:00 am

just make the T see-through.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 13, 2007, 02:28:47 pm

Oh, Ok, I've tried the icon without the bolt or T.

Original: (http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_darkerT.png)

No Bolt: (http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_nobolt.png)

No T: (http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_noT.png)

Transparent T: (http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_transT.png)

IMO, the transparent one looks the worst.

EDIT: By the way, what sizes do you need for Mac .icns? Don't Macs use png and svg anyway?

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: n00b pl0x on May 13, 2007, 06:36:39 pm

when i meant transparent...i meant clear...not w/e you did.

itll probably still look crappy, but meh

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 13, 2007, 06:40:06 pm

Um, what do you mean by transparent? The T is transparent so you can see what's below it...

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: HamStar on May 13, 2007, 08:54:53 pm

I think he means transparent as in you cn see behind the T and what the T is covering, eg the desktop wallpaper.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: a Turret on May 13, 2007, 09:03:04 pm

Quote from: "HamStar"

I think he means transparent as in you cn see behind the T and what the T is covering, eg the desktop wallpaper.

Icons cant be transparent

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: player1 on May 13, 2007, 10:02:37 pm

Quote from: "a Turret"

Quote from: "HamStar"

I think he means transparent as in you cn see behind the T and what the T is covering, eg the desktop wallpaper.

Icons cant be transparent

he means like quicktime, word, excel, powerpoint, entourage
u can see desktop "thru" them
there are void areas

@durand: I like dark T
but would like to see totally void T
like circle is void

btw, looks great
agree w/u
bolt~<3

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: f0rqu3 on May 13, 2007, 10:06:30 pm

transparency is a myth
it is not proven by the scientists

Title: science is a myth, too...
Post by: player1 on May 13, 2007, 10:08:01 pm

Quote from: "f0rqu3"

transparency is a myth
it is not proven by the scientists

that's ok mythical transparency is enuff 4 me
me am like 2 b fooled

@durand:

dark T
or
void (mythically transparent like the circle) T
and why not wallwalking AND boosted?

(alien side too dark/dull/lifeless)

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: stalefries on May 13, 2007, 11:52:38 pm

Quote from: "durand"

Oh, Ok, I've tried the icon without the bolt or T.

EDIT: By the way, what sizes do you need for Mac .icns? Don't Macs use png and svg anyway?

No, Macs use .icns files. The .icns is basically just a wrapper for multiple sizes (128, 48, 32, and 16). It also includes a 1-bit hit mask. Here's a screenshot of Icon Composer (part of Xcode, btw):

(http://orange.quickshareit.com/share/picture196206.png)

BTW, what everyone here is trying to say is that they want to T to be a boolean cutout.

Quote from: a Turret

Icons cant be transparent

Um, what platform are you on? I'm assuming Windows, where you have .ico files for icons, usually. ico files have only 1-bit transparency, I think. Definitely not full alpha transparency, like on Linux or Mac, but it is "transparency".

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 14, 2007, 06:58:16 pm

Yeah, as stalefries said, the icons are definitely transparent. I think its just cos ur using a browser like Internet Explorer  :oops: which doesnt support transparency. Window Explorer doesn't support transparent PNGs either if i correctly remember. Anyway, this icon does have a transparent T:

(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_transT.png)

As you can see, the bit under the T is also showing, notice the bolt?
If you want to see straight throught the whole icon, I have to do a boolean operation so its a cut through.

I might try a boosted version of the icon now.

EDIT: Like this?
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_boosted.png)

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: a Turret on May 15, 2007, 02:50:56 am

Quote from: "durand"

Yeah, as stalefries said, the icons are definitely transparent. I think its just cos ur using a browser like Internet Explorer  :oops: which doesnt support transparency. Window Explorer doesn't support transparent PNGs either if i correctly remember. Anyway, this icon does have a transparent T:

(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_transT.png)

As you can see, the bit under the T is also showing, notice the bolt?
If you want to see straight throught the whole icon, I have to do a boolean operation so its a cut through.

I might try a boosted version of the icon now.

EDIT: Like this?
(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_boosted.png)

I know what I am talking about, .ICO can't be partially transparent, each pixel must be 100% opacity , or 0% opacity.

I am not talking about .PNG or .GIF, those aren't icons those are images and they serve no purpose as they CANT be used as icons.

however since were on this topic, .PNG can be partially opacity so you can kind of see through, but kind of not, and .GIF can only be 100% opacity or 0% opacity like .ICO, and then last, .JPG+.BMP Cant be transparent at all.

The reason why when you scroll up to mine its a .PNG is because you cant show .ICO on basic forums, so thats why it includes a download link on my post.

If you guys are looking for a way to change an image into a .ICO download a plugin for photoshop (photoshop users only) http://www.telegraphics.com.au/sw/

for all the other program users, you can probably find a program to transform the basic image files into .iCOs

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: AKAnotu on May 15, 2007, 03:09:50 am

Schweet Fking awesome symbol, but i think the Part of the t in the alien side should be blue, while the half on the human side should be red, just to make it stand out

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: a Turret on May 15, 2007, 03:15:16 am

Quote from: "AKAnotu"

Schweet Fking awesome symbol, but i think the Part of the t in the alien side should be blue, while the half on the human side should be red, just to make it stand out

It would look better taking the lightning out from the back, and making the T thats on red part more alien and Organic looking while the other half thats on blue more geometric and blue.

And having it just red makes it look really bad,

I wont be doing anymore icons btw.

waste of time.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 15, 2007, 12:30:58 pm

Quote from: "a Turret"

I know what I am talking about, .ICO can't be partially transparent, each pixel must be 100% opacity , or 0% opacity.

I am not talking about .PNG or .GIF, those aren't icons those are images and they serve no purpose as they CANT be used as icons.

however since were on this topic, .PNG can be partially opacity so you can kind of see through, but kind of not, and .GIF can only be 100% opacity or 0% opacity like .ICO, and then last, .JPG+.BMP Cant be transparent at all.

The reason why when you scroll up to mine its a .PNG is because you cant show .ICO on basic forums, so thats why it includes a download link on my post.

If you guys are looking for a way to change an image into a .ICO download a plugin for photoshop (photoshop users only) http://www.telegraphics.com.au/sw/

for all the other program users, you can probably find a program to transform the basic image files into .iCOs

You don't realise how wrong you are. Annoyingly, on Windows, you can only use ico format which as you said can only be 100% transparent. However on O/Ses like linux and mac, you can use the png as an icon and this is what I've been designing for. Im still pretty sure that this icon will work fine as 100% transparent in windows, I just have to convert it. The only problem is that it wouldn't look as good.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: gareth on May 15, 2007, 01:24:28 pm

not that i like these new icons much, but you can get translucent icons in windows, from xp, according to wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICO_%28icon_image_file_format%29

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 15, 2007, 04:45:47 pm

Mmm, it does but anyone have any idea on how to do this?

Back at a Turret and AKAnotu, I'm working on this kind of icon now, any idea how I can make it more organic? I've lost all my inspiration lol

Title: one step from DONE!
Post by: player1 on May 15, 2007, 06:57:40 pm

@durand

dude it looks really cool
I think all it needs is a boolean T cutout
and boosted lights up the whole outer alien ring
wallwalking lights up the little ticks
don't stop
you're almost there!

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Glunnator on May 15, 2007, 07:09:22 pm

You know that the "I like the original" vote is still dominating?
 :eek:

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: David on May 15, 2007, 08:31:39 pm

That's because everyone voted before the now stuff appeared.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 15, 2007, 08:42:58 pm

player1, which type should I make? Boosted or wallwalking?

I think Glunnator is right, there have been about 20 votes since other people started designing icons and more have gone to the default one.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: player1 on May 15, 2007, 08:44:54 pm

Quote from: "durand"

Thanks player1, which type should I make? Boosted or wallwalking?

I think Glunnator is right, there have been about 20 votes since other people started designing icons and more have gone to the default one.

durand:
as an Alien, I'm never quite so happy as when I'm both boosted and wallwalking

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 15, 2007, 08:49:34 pm

Um, you mean something like this?
Boosted and Wallwalking: (http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_both.png)

Title: yeah!!!
Post by: player1 on May 15, 2007, 08:51:41 pm

'xactly
any chance for a cutout "T"?

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 15, 2007, 09:07:54 pm

Here is a cutout version, really don't like it though.

(http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/ah_cutout.png)

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: player1 on May 15, 2007, 09:13:10 pm

oh I see what you mean
I still like it, though
not very contrast-y
but still very cool
maybe the split "T" would be better

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: f0rqu3 on May 15, 2007, 09:20:36 pm

lol you are gonna piss him off with your endless demands

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 15, 2007, 09:22:27 pm

Um, Im working on the split T. Does anyone suggest a font that I use for the alien and human sides? Im having trouble getting the right style. At the moment, im looking at these pics for inspiration for the alien side.

(http://tremulous.net/manual/acidtube.jpg)
(http://tremulous.net/manual/egg.jpg)
(http://tremulous.net/manual/trapper.jpg)
Etc, all from the manual.

I was thinking of using the black stuff look with all the wirey/slimey look...
As for the human side, I thought of leaving it as the forum logo font.

Any ideas?

EDIT for f0rqu3: I dont really care, its fun to play with Inkscape.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: stalefries on May 15, 2007, 10:20:59 pm

I think the T and bolt make the icon too busy. Perhaps, if you used a shorter/squatter/wider font for the T, that may help. Otherwise, try just doing either the T or the bolt. Doing fancy fonts for the T probably won't help it (although it may look cooler).

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Killjoy#1 on May 22, 2007, 08:03:19 pm

(http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/9774/lucickv0.png)
luci cannon

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 22, 2007, 08:24:46 pm

:S Im finding it really hard to make the alien/human effects.. anyone else wanna give it a try?

Here's the svg: http://www.durand.zephyrhosting.net/dump/tremicons/trem_icon_ah.svg

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Superpie on May 24, 2007, 04:20:42 am

trace screenshots with shapes

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: durand on May 24, 2007, 12:36:29 pm

ya but the image quality is too low and it looks really bad

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: stalefries on June 17, 2007, 06:23:34 am

So, I know some might call this thread necro, but what can I say? I'm a sorcerer!

Actually, I'm just a pixel pusher. Being the pixel pusher that I am, my Armoury-based trem icon was bugging me. So I made a new image for the 16x16 size. Note the screenshot below.

Download (http://tangelo.quickshareit.com/share/armourymodifiedf0359.zip), for those who actually liked it in the first place. Hopefully, this also appeases some of the complaints against it.


(http://tangerine.quickshareit.com/share/picture134102.png)

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Glunnator on June 17, 2007, 11:02:48 am

Tyrant w/ sunglasses still rocks

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: A_Total_noob on June 17, 2007, 11:43:17 am

I vote for granger as a icon.

Title: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: stalefries on June 17, 2007, 11:01:45 pm

Quote from: "Glunnator"

Tyrant w/ sunglasses still rocks

Although I agree it's cool, it's not so great as an icon, in that it's not iconic.

Quote from: "A_Total_noob"

I vote for granger as a icon.

I may try to get a good granger shot at some point.

Title: Re: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Odin on November 21, 2007, 10:25:36 am

*BUMP*

Did anyone consider the Lasgun symbol for the icon? It seems to be the most known weapon symbol.

Title: Re: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Haraldx on November 21, 2007, 01:14:37 pm

Nah ! I Think we need something based on aliens like .... emmm ... i dont know ! maybe a basilisk !

Title: Re: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: blood2.0 on November 22, 2007, 08:40:48 am

nice like the dretch here is what i think the icon would look like maybe ad a shadow :jetpack:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2044/2054685052_a0f2cf3a95_t.jpg)

Title: Re: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: UniqPhoeniX on November 27, 2007, 02:15:29 pm

OMG...
Totally get rid of the "T".
1. Just take the same part of Alien HUD and from Human HUD the lightning bolt and from the right side the outer ring and flip horizontally:
2. put these 2 together like A/H not A|H and more smoothly, so it like fades from 1 to the other;
3. replace the wallwalking dots with most important alien icons (the ones you see on HUD and in scores): dretch, granger, dragoon and tyrant
4. from humans take the ckit, lasgun, luci and bsuit icons, place em around the h side outer ring.

Maybe make separate icons for both teams aswell.

EDIT: many of the links in this thread don't work, so if some1 has all the icons made, then could you put em together in 1 pack and upload? Thanks.

Title: Re: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Steely Ann on November 27, 2007, 02:48:37 pm

@ UsaKilleR: I might play around in the GIMP and try throwing that together for you if I get bored tonight (likely).

I still nominate this (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=5556.0) piece of win.

Title: Re: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: epsy on November 27, 2007, 08:32:56 pm

it would be better if you swap sides, eg H/A or H\A or H|A

so you get an important hud detail: stamina

Title: Re: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: UniqPhoeniX on November 30, 2007, 09:43:28 pm

Any progress?
The Tremulous text on that wallpaper is definitely a good idea, but I doubt this would be seen easily even on dock with 128x128, definitely not on desktop/start menu icon (for Win XP at least).

Title: Re: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: atomic1fire on December 01, 2007, 12:46:48 am

I think the most awesome Idea for an icon
would be the face of a tyrant split down the end with the other half being the face of a human in a battlesuit

Title: Re: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: UniqPhoeniX on December 09, 2007, 06:16:21 pm

Ok now, has any1 tried my ideas?

Title: Re: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: UniqPhoeniX on December 14, 2007, 03:20:14 pm

Oh well, i got to make it myself i guess... Just can any1 tell me if parts of HUD are somewhere in a file in trem folder? So I wouldnt have to edit hud to be non transparent and make lots of screenshots.

Title: Re: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: blood2.0 on December 15, 2007, 03:42:48 am

this is my icon

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2203/2111354999_e76b550f6e_m.jpg)
what do you think
sry its not 30by30 or have descent resolution all i did this on  paint  :P
i really like it

Title: Re: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Knowitall66 on December 15, 2007, 11:18:02 am

Thought I'd make a few. (There simple, yet sweet)
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p32/knowitall66/K66TremIcons.png) Not Actual size(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p32/knowitall66/K66TremIcons2.png)
Creep is total unchanged just turned into an icon. BlobSelect is just a Mix of to HUD bits (Goon barb/Human Item Select)
DL Pack1: http://files.filefront.com/K66TremIconszip/;9259472;/fileinfo.html
DL Pack2: http://files.filefront.com/K66TremIcons2zip/;9269637;/fileinfo.html
Images Included Pack1: BlobSelect - 256/256 | Creep - 48/48 | Creeplarge - 128/128 | RCOM - 64/64 | RCOMlarge - 256/256 | Turret - 256/256 | Full Size RCOM NOT ICON - 600/600
Images Included Pack2: Build 64/64 | burnmark 256/256 | CKit 128/128 | Galaxy 200/200 | RingMix 220/220 | RingMix.png 220/220

Title: Re: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: E-Mxp on December 15, 2007, 12:04:11 pm

@ blood2.0: ...NIcE!!
@Knowitall66: I really like the BlobSelect :D

Title: Re: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Steely Ann on December 15, 2007, 09:33:20 pm

Knowitall66

Remind me of those damnable iPod commercials.  Eck.

Title: Re: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Death On Ice on December 16, 2007, 12:29:56 am

Quote from: Steely Ann on December 15, 2007, 09:33:20 pm

Knowitall66

Remind me of those damnable iPod commercials.  Eck.

Haha +1

Title: Re: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Pete on December 18, 2007, 03:33:28 pm

On Ubuntu I just use this one from the main site
(http://tremulous.net/media/images/gui/dragoon.png)

Lovely Ubuntu, can have an icon any format and any size!

Title: Re: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Roanoke on December 29, 2008, 05:04:20 am

Quote from: a Turret on May 04, 2007, 08:24:39 am

I was bored so i decided to give it a go to make an icon :P I couldn't think of anything to do so I used the alien interface and edited so that the circle goes all the way around.

Any mirrors for this? It seems to be down.
EDIT: not necessary, but I wanted to add this SVG (http://www.mediafire.com/?m2bjyuxzgzh) version of this, as it seems the best icon I've seen so far.

Title: Re: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: {7}wrath on December 29, 2008, 07:04:59 pm

No, this is the best icon ever made:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Spikes.svg

In my opinion.

Title: Re: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Roanoke on December 29, 2008, 07:32:45 pm

It seems to be lacking the energy bolt.

Title: Re: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: {7}wrath on December 29, 2008, 07:43:10 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimalism

Title: Re: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Roanoke on December 29, 2008, 07:49:35 pm

That's not minimalist, with its glow and all.

Title: Re: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: {7}wrath on December 29, 2008, 09:54:05 pm

I think the bolt would detract from it.

Title: Re: New Tremulous icon?
Post by: Colynn' on December 30, 2008, 01:24:04 am

Hi.
Personally, I use this one (http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8043/tremulous3et6.png) with RocketDock. :)