Tremulous Forum
General => General Discussion => Topic started by: ToastMaster_M on May 09, 2007, 10:21:37 pm
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yeah, its pretty much freakin impossible to kill anyone playing as a dretch, I noticed, because for one, even at the lowest setting my mouse sensitivity was crazy fast and I couldnt keep anyone in my sight when attacking (even when I wasnt attacking sometimes too) This makes it near impossible to get kills as a dretch, therefore I havent gotten the pleasure of using any of its evolved forms :(
anyway, my point is, for the dretch and perhaps the dretch only, there needs to be some sort of "snap targeting" system, where you select a target or the nearest human target is automatically selected, when you click the right mouse button (or whatever button you set it to) it will "snap" the view of the dretch in the direction of the taraget.
Notice that this would be rather fair as you would have to snap the camera manually.
Well? Now am I right or am I right? shut up, of course I'm right!
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sounds like an aimbot to me. all you have to do with dretch is mvoe around a lot (not in a straight line) and look up at the human's head. as for your mouse sensitivity problem, the only thing i can suggest is laying off the coffee for a while.
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I dont drink anything with caffeine. stains my teeth. But seriously, you're telling me that you dont have the mouse sensitivity problem?
And I DO try to move around randomly, but somehow I end up smacking into corners, trying to turn around only to turn way too much and lose sight of the enemy. If not snap targeting for anyone else, how bout a snap target mod just for ME then?
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I guess you are new to trem. practice makes perfect. and what you suggest is ridiculous
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Rediculous.*
Anyway, sounds like you've got a case of newb, don't worry, you'll get over it with some practice.
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Also, low ping servers are your friend.
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Practice Practice Practice.... best advice your gonna get
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But seriously, you're telling me that you dont have the mouse sensitivity problem?
nope. no such problems. i actually turned UP my mouse sensitivity.
And I DO try to move around randomly, but somehow I end up smacking into corners, trying to turn around only to turn way too much and lose sight of the enemy.
you can wall walk you know
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Rediculous.*
Anyway, sounds like you've got a case of newb, don't worry, you'll get over it with some practice.
*cough* points at dictionary
as for the idea... just learn to aim :roll:
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Yea Eq i change my mouse sensitivity from game to game to find a happy medium depending on ping and server location.
The higher pinged servers i tend to have to turn it down so my fps dont drop too much.
If im on 1 of the 10 i get under 50 ping on i turn it all the way up.
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i can't change my sensitivity so often liek that. it messes me up. i just keep it on one sensitivity, no matter the ping. if i feel i need more sensitivity, i turn it up a bit and get used to that. eventually, i mught jsut have the highest sensitivity on always.
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I remember when i first started playing i had it all the way up and would try wallwalking...LMAO i would make myself sick trying to figure out which direction i was heading and i kept getting stuck in corners going round and round lol.
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Rediculous.*
Anyway, sounds like you've got a case of newb, don't worry, you'll get over it with some practice.
*cough* points at dictionary
as for the idea... just learn to aim :roll:
Whatever. ;D
I'm gonna fuck with phorke phail's spelling because it seems to bother him.
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http://tremulous.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=68214#68214
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I always have my sensitivity up 100% in every FPS like game.
It takes ages to get used to, but its the best when you get used to it.
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I always have my sensitivity up 100% in every FPS like game.
It takes ages to get used to, but its the best when you get used to it.
there is no 100%, you can make your sensitivity high enough that as soon as you move your mouse 1 unit, you do a 720 in tremulous.
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I think he means 100% as in the menu settings, not console settings.
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Rediculous.*
Nice try, lmao.
And yes, this game has a pretty high learning curve (something that a lot of seasoned players seem to forget when relating to newbies ;P), but it's fun, and I think you'll find it really satisfying when you start getting you some dretch kills.
And remember: locational damage. Don't look ahead of you when playing dretch, try to look in a more upwards (maybe about 60 degrees?) angle, and jump at their heads. If you get a headbite on someone without any helmet or battlesuit, it's 96 damage, and all you need after that is to quickly nip their feet. Other than that, just practice like everyone's said already.
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I think he means 100% as in the menu settings, not console settings.
yeah i ment menu settings,
how do i change it from the console?
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Dontthink you can change it from console.
Only way i know of is to hit esc and go thru options menu
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Dontthink you can change it from console.
Only way i know of is to hit esc and go thru options menu
I think he means 100% as in the menu settings, not console settings.
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This is another one of those games where it seems impossible to play at first, but after a while you get used to it. Be patient and if you need practice many people wouldn't mind playing with you ( when I started playing somebody I don't remember helped me find the ground headbite angle ). Just don't feed too much, and don't decon/build unless you have figured out what sort of building style works.
Adjust your mouse sensitivity to a level where you are comfortable with, and you can adjust it later when you have grasped more control in the game. When you have learnt how to aim, you will want to increase the sensitivity for quick aiming while dodging and strafing. As a dretch, use the wall. Run on walls and ceiling forth and backward, and switch between the walls on your right and left. That really confuses human :).
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/sensitivity n.nn <-- mouse settings in console. n being number value.
And like the rest have said, once gotten use to, the dretch can be a killing machine.. :)
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Dontthink you can change it from console.
Only way i know of is to hit esc and go thru options menu
I think he means 100% as in the menu settings, not console settings.
Dam quote nazi's got me again
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I've been gradually raising my sensitivity. I have it on /sensitivity 18 right now. I started at like 5. Just work your way up and get used to aiming, higher sensitivities can help so long as you can keep up. Lower sensitivities have their little perks too, but I like high sensitivity.
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I dretch FTW.
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I've been gradually raising my sensitivity. I have it on /sensitivity 18 right now. I started at like 5. Just work your way up and get used to aiming, higher sensitivities can help so long as you can keep up. Lower sensitivities have their little perks too, but I like high sensitivity.
it also depends on the mouse a lot. with my old mouse i used to play et with a sensitivity of 30 and it wasn't nearly enough (i didn't know about /sensitivity back then :oops:), with my new mouse, i have no problem playing with a sensitivity of 5.
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there is no 100%, you can make your sensitivity high enough that as soon as you move your mouse 1 unit, you do a 720 in tremulous.
one time after setting my mouse sensitivity really high, i moved my mouse a little bit and tremulous crashed. i generally keep my sensitivity below 1000 now
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Try to dretch for a week or two, without playing Human at all.
Learn to find that wallwalk key (default "C"), and to toggle it off when necessary.
Stay above the Humans, and try to touch them at head height by wallwalking at that height when they are fighting your teammates and can't keep an eye on you.
Stay together with other Aliens. A swarm of dretches swirling around some hapless Humans is a lovely sight to behold. Find somebody good and follow them or spectate them and learn their tricks.
You can mess with mouse sensitivity and wallwalk pitching, but after a couple weeks of solid dretching, you'll at least know what you're doing wrong. And you'll have a better appreciation for the more advanced Alien classes (they're not really any easier; dretching is entry level Alien gameplay).
If you can get above the Humans and drop on their unhelmeted heads, it's a great feeling to know all you have to do is touch them one more time to kill them (if you can do it before they hit the medkit button).
The ground headbite is a great skill to learn.
After a couple of weeks as a dretch, play Human again. You'll get more out of it now, and you'll be a better dretch when you go back to Alien.
Just my humble opinion, I'm pretty new (maybe 3 1/2 months or so).
Also, another person recently got this (http://tremulous.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3595) advice.
P.S. I thought something similar to what you asked for when I started, like "Why can't I hit anything?", but with only 25 health, little mistakes are fatal. Remember, if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullshit. Keep 'em guessing, and keep moving. Never run straight at a Human, especially on the ground. That's like an ant running at a guy with a gun. He's gonna go sidestep, turn, sidestep, turn, and shoot your bug self. Confuse and confound 'em. Find the weak Human, and separate him from the pack. Cheers!
Dretchkill, FTW! (Also fun as hell. I dretched a battlesuit for the win on ATCSZalpha, in the vents, when everbody else was evo'd up to goon and rant, and couldn't get at him. As a matter of fact, play on that map, and stay in the other team's vents. There are some spots where you can drop onto their head from just above, and if they are already less than 96 health, they croak. Mwahaha!!!)
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Snap should work, and i know what u mean...
Basically: Close to human as dretch (3 feet or less, snaps to their body)
Human: Dretch Close 4-5 Feet (Snaps on to the dretch to shoot)
This would balance it...
And this works only with rifle, and dretch... Not hard, and yea would help newbies out
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What, your aimbot hunt failed when you realised you had no brain, so now you want the tremdevs to add an aimbot?
WTF are you taking?
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aimbot code
Sorry, I'm doubting about it but even the intention is wrong. -Survivor
so if you if you set the self->enemy and call it every frame your view will be locked on your enemy
server side doh
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Try to dretch for a week or two, without playing Human at all.
Learn to find that wallwalk key (default "C"), and to toggle it off when necessary.
Stay above the Humans, and try to touch them at head height by wallwalking at that height when they are fighting your teammates and can't keep an eye on you.
Stay together with other Aliens. A swarm of dretches swirling around some hapless Humans is a lovely sight to behold. Find somebody good and follow them or spectate them and learn their tricks.
You can mess with mouse sensitivity and wallwalk pitching, but after a couple weeks of solid dretching, you'll at least know what you're doing wrong. And you'll have a better appreciation for the more advanced Alien classes (they're not really any easier; dretching is entry level Alien gameplay).
If you can get above the Humans and drop on their unhelmeted heads, it's a great feeling to know all you have to do is touch them one more time to kill them (if you can do it before they hit the medkit button).
The ground headbite is a great skill to learn.
After a couple of weeks as a dretch, play Human again. You'll get more out of it now, and you'll be a better dretch when you go back to Alien.
Just my humble opinion, I'm pretty new (maybe 3 1/2 months or so).
Also, another person recently got this (http://tremulous.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3595) advice.
P.S. I thought something similar to what you asked for when I started, like "Why can't I hit anything?", but with only 25 health, little mistakes are fatal. Remember, if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullshit. Keep 'em guessing, and keep moving. Never run straight at a Human, especially on the ground. That's like an ant running at a guy with a gun. He's gonna go sidestep, turn, sidestep, turn, and shoot your bug self. Confuse and confound 'em. Find the weak Human, and separate him from the pack. Cheers!
Dretchkill, FTW! (Also fun as hell. I dretched a battlesuit for the win on ATCSZalpha, in the vents, when everbody else was evo'd up to goon and rant, and couldn't get at him. As a matter of fact, play on that map, and stay in the other team's vents. There are some spots where you can drop onto their head from just above, and if they are already less than 96 health, they croak. Mwahaha!!!)
Wait, theres such thing as HEADBITES?!?! No wonder everyone else was killing them so much quicker than me! I'd see someone else kill a human in two hits while jumping at them, whereas I always go for the feet...
Cool, thanks for the info!