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Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: [the dark alliance] nate on May 28, 2007, 07:31:54 am
i reckon they should put jetpacks on battlesuits or atleast let u crouch in them :battlesuit:
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: pieman on May 28, 2007, 07:43:08 am
i also think that the bsuits should have a built in helmet.  like your at stage 2 and you have your helm and you know were everything is, but when u get to s3, u sell it and get a bsuit and you get jumpy because u think that there is a goon around every corner.  i feel like im missing some thing whjen i get a bsuit, because i cant see anything.


  :battlesuit: looks around a corner :advmarauder:  :dragoon:
then  :battlesuit: dies
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: [the dark alliance] nate on May 28, 2007, 07:48:13 am
yeah thats another thing i forgot to mention battlesuits with helmets in them and jetpacks that would b freekin awsome   :battlesuit: that with :helmet: and :jetpack: would b freeking awsome
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: DarkWolf on May 28, 2007, 09:34:38 am
That would unbalance the game, having Bsuits with jetpacks, helmet's and letting them crouch would make them too powerfull.
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: Henners on May 28, 2007, 09:57:47 am
Indeed

Its supposed to be a tactical choice what load out to take. There is no magical "best load out" for end game marines by design.
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: Dark-Shadow on May 28, 2007, 10:04:34 am
I think Jetpacks should have a certain time, in which they can be used. After this  period, the Jetpack has to regenerate, so they can't fucking camp in the air outside, like on Karith/ATCS, because this rly sucks!

@Topic: As already said, that would be unfair. And it would look pretty weird seeing a crouching BS with a Jett on the back.

(i guess, someone's gonna draw and post that now XD )
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: Shadowgandor on May 28, 2007, 10:24:25 am
i think tyrants should have wings and could fly. Also, they should be able to shoot barbs to reach nasty ventcrawlers.
Seriously, if you would upgrade the battlesuit like that, they'll be invincible.
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: Dark-Shadow on May 28, 2007, 10:32:17 am
Quote from: "Shadowgandor"
i think tyrants should have wings and could fly. Also, they should be able to shoot barbs to reach nasty ventcrawlers.
Seriously, if you would upgrade the battlesuit like that, they'll be invincible.

I remember a Tyrant with 600 HP and a fat-weird barb from TremX  :D
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: Lord Baxter on May 28, 2007, 11:12:03 am
jetpacks should Definately have timers, some noob gets a painsaw and jetpack and thinks hes ultra-1337 when nobody gives a shit about him. it was like something out of the birds except he missed and died a lot
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: PFB on May 28, 2007, 12:33:28 pm
coming soon
battlesuits will be able to carry extra ammo
and they will have radars and homing missiles
and they will be called mech warriors
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: _Equilibrium_ on May 28, 2007, 03:33:19 pm
and they will be 10 time sthe size they are now, so they wont be able to fit anywhere. just a super camping tool.
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: Glunnator on May 28, 2007, 05:10:05 pm
They will have a turning rate of 1ms/sec, their shots will go at half the luci cannon speed but do 1000 direct hit damage and 500 splash damage rangins over 10ms.

...Get behind one and they're toast. :P
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: kevlarman on May 28, 2007, 05:54:39 pm
i think this belongs in feedback :evil:
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: techhead on May 28, 2007, 06:26:39 pm
So much noob suggestion.
It would be funny if they weren't serious (the first three posts).
At least they didn't mention stomping on dretches.
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: kozak6 on May 28, 2007, 10:04:57 pm
I think Battlesuits should be able to dual wield weapons.
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: Plague Bringer on May 28, 2007, 10:08:18 pm
Halo
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: Evlesoa on May 28, 2007, 11:06:42 pm
Battlesuit should have extra ammo, OR/and extra ENERGY weapon ammo... + have a helmet

Point is, we are going here by realism of what a REAL battlesuit should be like... A REAL battlesuit would be a self-sufficient power-house that should be able to mow-down aliens with ease. Aliens of course, should have a tyrant-like creature, which is about the same size but instead its an infected-looking human... an elite sorta thing, something with super-natural senses, and able to leap at great distances. However since its infected, it would have less health, but attack would be fatal. The leap also does barely any damage seeing how the weight of a human is so little... this would be a VERY good way to balance the Super-Battlesuit... of course we arent talking balance, we talking what should be made with a battlesuit... The cost for BS would be like 1500 or something, MAX creds for humans like 3000, and aliens 18 evos... ok not to get carried away, like I said... something strong should be on human team, like a human with the RAGE Virus (totally loved the 28 weeks later movie)
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: Kaleo on May 29, 2007, 12:34:40 pm
Quote from: "techhead"
So much noob suggestion.
It would be funny if they weren't serious (the first three posts).
At least they didn't mention stomping on dretches.

BATTLESUITS SHOULD BE ABLE TO STOMP DRETCHS!!!!!

I couldn't resist.
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: Fluxflashor on May 29, 2007, 01:40:36 pm
Lets just give the humans stage four while we are at it shall we?

Stage four humans need 30 kills per teammember and when they get to S4 they can have these super uber jettarding helmet carrying bsiots everyone thinks would be such good ideas.

Also they can have a Yomato Cannon on their newly equiped Battle Cruiser. Watch the OM die now aliens, just watch!
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: Plague Bringer on May 29, 2007, 09:14:37 pm
Quote from: "Evlesoa"
Battlesuit should have extra ammo, OR/and extra ENERGY weapon ammo... + have a helmet

Point is, we are going here by realism of what a REAL battlesuit should be like... A REAL battlesuit would be a self-sufficient power-house that should be able to mow-down aliens with ease. Aliens of course, should have a tyrant-like creature, which is about the same size but instead its an infected-looking human... an elite sorta thing, something with super-natural senses, and able to leap at great distances. However since its infected, it would have less health, but attack would be fatal. The leap also does barely any damage seeing how the weight of a human is so little... this would be a VERY good way to balance the Super-Battlesuit... of course we arent talking balance, we talking what should be made with a battlesuit... The cost for BS would be like 1500 or something, MAX creds for humans like 3000, and aliens 18 evos... ok not to get carried away, like I said... something strong should be on human team, like a human with the RAGE Virus (totally loved the 28 weeks later movie)


Do you understand the concept of BALANCE?

Actually; better yet, do you inderstand the concept of STFU?
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: Rawr on May 29, 2007, 10:38:16 pm
Tyrants should have barbs and be able to WW if bsuits can crouch.
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: Kaleo on May 30, 2007, 11:27:41 am
There should be Nazis! Follow W:ET's example!
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: Dracone on May 30, 2007, 12:10:20 pm
K, my turn.

I wants a kitchen in teh Niveus window room so there can be sum Aunt Jemima rants cookin up some pancakes for teh hungry aliens, and MAYBE A HUMIE GUEST OR TWO!

YAAAAAAAAAAAA!

No stomping, no crouching.
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: pieman on June 03, 2007, 09:37:41 am
every one is saying that if the bsuit had a helmet inside it, that it would be unblaanced or some crap, but all alien stages, including tyrants have a rader, so its only fair that the hummies have a rader in their bsuit as well.
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: Sage on June 03, 2007, 09:46:26 am
Quote from: "Dark-Shadow"
I think Jetpacks should have a certain time, in which they can be used. After this  period, the Jetpack has to regenerate, so they can't fucking camp in the air outside, like on Karith/ATCS, because this rly sucks!

@Topic: As already said, that would be unfair. And it would look pretty weird seeing a crouching BS with a Jett on the back.

(i guess, someone's gonna draw and post that now XD )

so its good idea that jet packs need stamina and its eat it
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: Rabbitt on June 03, 2007, 02:38:01 pm
Quote from: "Rawr"
Tyrants should have barbs and be able to WW if bsuits can crouch.


I can see the tyrants barrel rolling down the atcs hallway as i type this.
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: Rawr on June 03, 2007, 04:38:39 pm
Quote from: "Rabbitt"
Quote from: "Rawr"
Tyrants should have barbs and be able to WW if bsuits can crouch.


I can see the tyrants barrel rolling down the atcs hallway as i type this.

 :eek:
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: Plague Bringer on June 03, 2007, 06:30:20 pm
Quote from: "pieman"
every one is saying that if the bsuit had a helmet inside it, that it would be unblaanced or some crap, but all alien stages, including tyrants have a rader, so its only fair that the hummies have a rader in their bsuit as well.

There's balance issues.

Currently you have to choose between strength or sight.

You'll understand when you un-newbify.
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: TriedtoDestroyMetal on June 03, 2007, 10:13:21 pm
bsuits should seriously have thick pointy metal chains that fly out of them like spawn and wrap around tyrants chainsaw style like NREEWOWRRNENEWRWENOOOOOOOOOWWWWW *SPLATCH* and then Humands R WiN!!!1
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: Lava Croft on June 03, 2007, 11:08:13 pm
The beauty of games is that you can make things a little different than you would see them in reality, all for the sake of gameplay. Taking a Battlesuit or Helmet/Battpack/Jetpack is a clear choice between versatility and brute force. The beauty of Tremulous is that these small things you would deem 'unrealistic' are exactly those things that make the game so entertaining.
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: TriedtoDestroyMetal on June 04, 2007, 12:06:41 am
that's why I play trem... it's a cartoon.. or hadn't anyone noticed before?
Now I'm off to play UT
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: pieman on June 05, 2007, 07:06:32 am
but tyrants are like the same as having a bsuit, but tyrants have a rader, so it's unbalenced.
:battlesuit:  and  :helmet:  should = :tyrant:
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: munroe on June 06, 2007, 08:19:56 pm
Yeah, but that's what good human communication is for. You have scouts up front, with helmets, and bsuits playing backup. Most people confuse tremulous(especially the human team) as somewhat of a single player game, and that just can't be done properly.

Think of the bsuits like the fat guys in Ice Hockey for the NES. They're nice and strong, but you can't win a game without a few skinnier guys to move the puck quickly. Improving the bsuits would be like making the fat-ass fast. It upsets the balance.
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: Plague Bringer on June 06, 2007, 08:37:03 pm
Yeah, but BSuits can have any weapon, but tyrants can only have claws and charge.

Maybe we should let every alien buy different attacks so it'll be balanced.

Look, the bsuit does not = a tyrant, and no human armor type = any alien class. The balance is hard to understand, but it works fine.
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: munroe on June 06, 2007, 08:42:58 pm
For sure. A good tyrant can own any human, no matter what armour/weapon configuration.

By contrast, three humans with rifles can take down a tyrant if they work effectively.
Title: battlesuit suggestion
Post by: Plague Bringer on June 06, 2007, 08:45:56 pm
But, due to the delicate balance, any well equipped human, bsuit or not, can own a Tyrant.