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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Oblivion on June 22, 2007, 03:48:47 am

Title: Telnet Question
Post by: Oblivion on June 22, 2007, 03:48:47 am

Is there away to setup telnet for your server?  I was just curious about it thats all.

Title: Re: Telnet Question
Post by: kevlarman on June 22, 2007, 04:24:17 am

Quote from: "Oblivion"

Is there away to setup telnet for your server?  I was just curious about it thats all.

eww telnet. if your server is running on *nix you can usually ssh the box and grab the screen session that the server is running in, on windows you might be out of luck.

Title: Telnet Question
Post by: xyblor on June 22, 2007, 06:31:56 am

Hi there Oblivion,

I imagine that a telnet server can be set up on pretty much any machine. I think on Windows XP professional, you can even enable it through administrative options, without installing anything. As kevlarman mentioned, on Linux (and cygwin), SSH has superseded telnet, I believe. Other software to look into would be puTTY, UltraVNC (or TightVNC), and Windows' "Remote Desktop Connection", which actually works very well and has a client for Macs.

Title: Telnet Question
Post by: Taiyo.uk on June 22, 2007, 06:50:42 am

To clarify, a major difference between telnet and ssh is that ssh traffic is encrypted and telnet traffic is not. I.e. telnet will send your password and and all data as plaintext. For a remote graphical UI there are various VNC systems available for *nix, mac and windows. X sessions can be tunneled over ssh.

Title: Telnet Question
Post by: David on June 22, 2007, 01:58:12 pm

Never use telnet over an untrusted network, and the internet sure counts as untrusted.

Title: Telnet Question
Post by: Oblivion on June 22, 2007, 05:29:42 pm

Well I was just asking because I run telnet on all of my servers, and I run 2 Trem servers and I figure I might want to ask about telnet since I have been hosting without for little more over a year now.  So if you do find away to do this please let me know.

Title: Telnet Question
Post by: David on June 22, 2007, 06:02:58 pm

nix or windows?

Title: Telnet Question
Post by: Oblivion on June 22, 2007, 08:42:03 pm

Windows buddy.  Windows Server 2003.

Title: Telnet Question
Post by: stalefries on June 23, 2007, 12:31:25 am

1. I don't think you'd be able to connect to a Tremded console session on a Windows machine, other than through some sort of graphical remote connection.
2. Ditch the telnet. As stated above, it's all plaintext. Bad business, especially when you want to avoid people hacking your server.

In conclusion (mostly summing up what others have said):
If you want to stick with Windows servers, do some sort of graphical remote connection. Something like VNC or RDP would work.
Otherwise, setup some sort of Linux server (or Mac, if you prefer that route), and then use ssh, or one of the graphical connections.

Title: Telnet Question
Post by: David on June 23, 2007, 12:32:31 am

Install cygwin, and set up its ssh server.
Then run tremded under screen.

Title: Telnet Question
Post by: Oblivion on June 23, 2007, 05:15:58 am

Well I kind of prefer telnet, I like to mess around in DoS prompts, and  I am a sort of person who uses telnet often on websites and gaming servers.  But if it can not be done then I am not going to whine over trying to get one in tremulous.

Title: Telnet Question
Post by: David on June 23, 2007, 01:48:13 pm

ssh is the same as telnet, only it doesn't send you pass in cleartext and has more options.