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Title: Why... Why do you do 1 on 1??
Post by: Evlesoa on July 11, 2007, 12:28:36 am
Seriously, look at it this way:

Humans Camp - Humans Lose

Humans Go out and destroy alien base causing run out of ammo - Dretch gets him: HUMANS LOSE

Aliens Camp & get goon - Humans lose

Humans go out and destroy alien base2 - Dretch goes Basi, Basi rapes base, goes goon, and wins

I wanna know why ppl do 1 on 1, it is in no way to test real skill!

If you disagree, burn in hell
Title: Why... Why do you do 1 on 1??
Post by: Dracone on July 11, 2007, 12:37:47 am
Because they feel like it? Just because it doesn't prove anything doesn't mean they can't be fun. Being competitive isn't about being picky about who you face and how you face them. It's usually about simply going up against another person or a group of people and trying to win, even though sometimes there's only a slim chance you could win. It's not about being like, "Shit, I'll lose. I won't play." It's about being like, "Sure, I'll play, and even though the odds are against me, I'm gonna give him hell and try anyways."
Title: Why... Why do you do 1 on 1??
Post by: Eeeew Spiders on July 11, 2007, 12:43:50 am
Because 1 on 1 can be fun to practice dodging and overall close combat skills? The 1 on 1 I usually play have no emphasis on spawns/base destruction at all.
For camping in a 1 on 1 I see no use at all except seeing time pass slowly.
Title: Why... Why do you do 1 on 1??
Post by: AppleJuice on July 11, 2007, 01:08:35 am
Lol @ 'if you disagree with me, burn in hell'

Well Evlesoa, most people don't play with idiots like you, and establish rules which must be followed in 1v1s, such as:
 No base killing until one player is Stage 3.  
 No camping for evos/because you are scared.  
 No building.
 No cheap wins, like losing 10-1, evolving to basi and killing the nodes.

When such rules are used, combat abilities may be seen and improved, etc.  1v1s do prove something.

I heard you sound like a little girl on teamspeak. LOLOLOL
Title: Why... Why do you do 1 on 1??
Post by: Vindication? on July 11, 2007, 01:29:43 am
Quote from: "AppleJuice"
I heard you sound like a little girl on teamspeak. LOLOLOL


You gotta admit...he got you there.

God forbid somebody wants to have fun, eh, Evlesoa?
Title: Why... Why do you do 1 on 1??
Post by: Yarou on July 11, 2007, 02:14:26 am
God forbid Shade should lose to Vindication?
;)
Title: Why... Why do you do 1 on 1??
Post by: David on July 11, 2007, 02:00:01 pm
Easy way:  No going near each others base, first to 10 kills.

Still sucks and unbalanced, but can be fun.

I had a really fun one-on-one ageist khalsa a while ago.  He's way better than me, but the map was so insanely large that I could always have at least 5 eggs, and even with radar it took him ages to get them all.  Then I goon'd his base and lost :(.

But trappers rule in 1v1.  Get them well and truly stuck, and then leave them.  They have to /kill. :).
Hopefully gives you enough time to get there nodes.
Title: Why... Why do you do 1 on 1??
Post by: Oblivion on July 11, 2007, 02:28:37 pm
1v1 usually does not go like that anyways, I have many 1vs1 and it works out great, kind of never happened the way you said it.  I always build and get some credits and get a painsaw to finish the job.
Title: Maybe you just don't understand the concept of a game
Post by: player1 on July 11, 2007, 02:51:58 pm
@Evlesoa: Some people play games for fun, not to prove to themselves that they aren't losers. But you wouldn't understand that. Because you are a loser. Irrevocably.

If you don't agree, burn in hell...
Title: Re: Maybe you just don't understand the concept of a game
Post by: Unforgiven on July 15, 2007, 05:36:33 pm
Quote from: "player1"
But you wouldn't understand that. Because you are a loser. Irrevocably.

If you don't agree, burn in hell...


owned.
Title: Why... Why do you do 1 on 1??
Post by: elmo*USA on July 16, 2007, 09:12:54 am
most the time when i 1 on 1 we dont build or camp we just fight in the hall of ATCS or some other map and go to see whose first to 21 kills, and i know kills arent everything but there a start :D
Title: Why... Why do you do 1 on 1??
Post by: A_Total_noob on July 16, 2007, 11:12:58 am
1v1s are quite fun  - heh, I even often play them offline (me + friends hook up on LAN, and go for 'best of 15 kills'.)
Its a lot of fun.


1v1s only suck when you suck at the game.
Even if you loose, its still fun.
Title: Why... Why do you do 1 on 1??
Post by: BeerBastard on July 17, 2007, 08:56:11 am
I have played many 1 vs 1's and lost few.  I always know aliens should win, but that doesnt always happen.  

Best way to win as human is build a few rets and rush with rifle, taking out acids from the hall on atcs. Either the dretch comes out to play. Or you eventually get far enough into his base to kill him.  If there smart they will just try to ignore you as long as its only acids ur killing.
Title: Why... Why do you do 1 on 1??
Post by: Plague Bringer on July 17, 2007, 05:05:17 pm
1v1 is completely and totally pointless. It takes a very little amount of skill, and if alien gets goon, humans are donefor, given that they are of equal skill or the alien is of higher skill.
Title: Why... Why do you do 1 on 1??
Post by: AppleJuice on July 17, 2007, 05:16:30 pm
How does it not take skill?  Fighting is still involved.

Human strategy: Don't die 3 times before you reach s2. Comments such as 'if the alien gets a goon humans are done for' are completely pointless and stupid.  I could just as easily say 'if the human gets s2/s3 aliens are done for.'

With a few rules, such as the ones I previously suggested, 1v1s are very fun and do prove something.
Title: Why... Why do you do 1 on 1??
Post by: Odin on July 17, 2007, 05:57:39 pm
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If you disagree, burn in hell

Fuck you.

1vs1 is fun as hell. If you can't modify your strategies for 1vs1 then you don't deserve to be playing it. If you need to complain about 1vs1 then you don't deserve to be playing games altogether.

Somebody please just ban Evlesoa already.
Title: Why... Why do you do 1 on 1??
Post by: Fluxflashor on July 17, 2007, 10:52:22 pm
1 v 1's are fun. YEs evlesoa please burn in hell for suggesting they are not. Found this in a games.log

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155:19 sayteam: ^5^1Sa^7in^1t Na^7ve^1?: evellesoa
155:21 sayteam: ^1Rabid ^4Squirrel: whats soa
155:21 sayteam: ^5^1Sa^7in^1t Na^7ve^1?: lol
155:23 sayteam: ^$S^Wain^$t W^Wa^$R: nave dont u hate him?
155:27 sayteam: ^5^1Sa^7in^1t Na^7ve^1?: nah
155:32 sayteam: ^$S^Wain^$t W^Wa^$R: hes weird
155:32 sayteam: ^1Rabid ^4Squirrel: darn
155:32 Share: 2 0 1 1: ^1F^7u^1:V^7ic^1tor^7 transferred 1e to ^1F^&u:^7J^4-^7COOL^7
155:35 sayteam: ^5-^2GH^5-^2Mar^5i^2juana: bull you neede anything
155:35 sayteam: ^1S^7aint ^1P^7lague: You don't hate Evlesoa?
155:37 sayteam: ^3-^7GH^3-Z^7emmi^3phobe: ^5Base is clear
155:38 sayteam: ^5-GH-^7Bull: they have a goon, I can guarantee you
155:38 sayteam: ^5-GH-^7Bull: no
155:40 sayteam: ^5^1Sa^7in^1t Na^7ve^1?: nope
155:43 sayteam: ^$S^Wain^$t W^Wa^$R: i HATE him
155:43 sayteam: ^5-^2GH^5-^2Mar^5i^2juana: should we go
155:43 sayteam: ^1S^7aint ^1P^7lague: Fuck man.
155:46 sayteam: ^5-^2GH^5-^2Mar^5i^2juana: ?
155:46 sayteam: ^1Rabid ^4Squirrel:  whats elvosa
155:46 sayteam: ^3-^7GH^3-Z^7emmi^3phobe: yeah
155:46 Decon: 2 4 0: ^1F^7u^1:V^7ic^1tor deconstructed acid_tube
155:50 sayteam: ^$S^Wain^$t W^Wa^$R: u
155:52 sayteam: ^5^1Sa^7in^1t Na^7ve^1?: raib who r u?
155:52 sayteam: ^1Rabid ^4Squirrel: fek no
155:53 sayteam: ^1S^7aint ^1P^7lague: That guy is the douchiest douch of them all.
155:54 sayteam: ^5^1Sa^7in^1t Na^7ve^1?: rabid
155:57 Build: 2 4 0: ^1F^7u^1:V^7ic^1tor^7 is ^2building^7 acid_tube
155:57 sayteam: ^4F^3u^2.lickalotofpus: is pm off
155:58 sayteam: ^$S^Wain^$t W^Wa^$R: hes a drama queen
156:00 sayteam: ^1Rabid ^4Squirrel: im rabid.....
156:00 say: ^$F^_u^$:^_Cu^$rly^_Fr^$o: YA
156:07 sayteam: ^5-GH-^7Bull: I got base
156:07 sayteam: ^1S^7aint ^1P^7lague: Evlesoa is Trem
156:08 sayteam: ^5^1Sa^7in^1t Na^7ve^1?: well yea hes drama
156:12 sayteam: ^1S^7aint ^1P^7lague: Trem's biggest idiot
156:14 sayteam: ^1Rabid ^4Squirrel: dramatic
156:16 sayteam: ^4F^3u^2.lickalotofpus: all hall
156:18 sayteam: ^1Rabid ^4Squirrel: maybe
156:18 ClientTeamClass: 2 alien level0
156:20 ClientConnect: 9 [70.16.145.102] (BBB9ABE6FFA084C61AAD7E642FE62ED9) "^2HALO^1TWO2^3GURL"
156:21 sayteam: ^5^1Sa^7in^1t Na^7ve^1?: rabid wat clan u from?
156:24 sayteam: ^$S^Wain^$t W^Wa^$R: hes GAY


I agree with all the above facts. Thanks for pointing them out SaintPlague and Swaint War.

If you want him banned from a server put a subnet ban on: 69.86.195.185
If you want me banned, put a subnet on: 65.95.56.245

I run multiple net connections though so it may not work.

Quote from: "A_Total_Noob"

1v1s only suck when you suck at the game.


Thats why he doesnt like them, he needs cheats to win. Ive got a recording of him talking on teamspeak. Post a reply if you want to hear it. I'll upload it.
Title: Why... Why do you do 1 on 1??
Post by: KamikOzzy on July 17, 2007, 11:00:28 pm
The best simple rule I came across was:

In trying to kill your opponents base, you must first damage your opponent on your way there.

Quote
I heard you sound like a little girl on teamspeak. LOLOLOL


Lmao, pwnd.
Title: Why... Why do you do 1 on 1??
Post by: Survivor on July 17, 2007, 11:06:49 pm
Quote from: "KamikOzzy"
The best simple rule I came across was:

In trying to kill your opponents base, you must first damage your opponent on your way there.

Quote
I heard you sound like a little girl on teamspeak. LOLOLOL


Lmao, pwnd.


Only applies on atcs. If your not on it or any of it derivatives stealth is as much an asset as power.
Title: Why... Why do you do 1 on 1??
Post by: kevlarman on July 18, 2007, 12:08:22 am
Quote from: "Fluxflashor"

If you want him banned from a server put a subnet ban on: 69.86.195.185
done
Quote

If you want me banned, put a subnet on: 65.95.56.245
also done[/quote]
Title: Why... Why do you do 1 on 1??
Post by: n00b pl0x on July 18, 2007, 12:10:27 am
Quote from: "Fluxflashor"
If you want him banned from a server put a subnet ban on: 69.86.195.185
If you want me banned, put a subnet on: 65.95.56.245


HELL YES!

no more 69.* or 65.* on my server

i aint taking any chances :wink:
Title: Why... Why do you do 1 on 1??
Post by: Fluxflashor on July 18, 2007, 12:31:38 am
Quote from: "kevlarman"
Quote from: "Fluxflashor"

If you want him banned from a server put a subnet ban on: 69.86.195.185
done
Quote

If you want me banned, put a subnet on: 65.95.56.245
also done
[/quote]

I feel special. I also have another range of IP's from my ISP, ill give em to you later.
Title: Why... Why do you do 1 on 1??
Post by: Steely Ann on July 18, 2007, 12:56:40 am
We too feel you're special, Flux. :P
Title: Why... Why do you do 1 on 1??
Post by: kevlarman on July 18, 2007, 12:56:55 am
Quote from: "Fluxflashor"

I feel special. I also have another range of IP's from my ISP, ill give em to you later.
70.48, i'll get that too
Title: Why... Why do you do 1 on 1??
Post by: Odin on July 18, 2007, 01:01:41 am
Quote
Thats why he doesnt like them, he needs cheats to win. Ive got a recording of him talking on teamspeak. Post a reply if you want to hear it. I'll upload it.
gogogogogogo
Title: Why... Why do you do 1 on 1??
Post by: tehOen on July 18, 2007, 01:13:00 am
Quote from: "Fluxflashor"
I feel special.

yes you are special
Title: Why... Why do you do 1 on 1??
Post by: TinMan on July 18, 2007, 01:23:02 am
I had sex with your mother 1 on 1.
Title: Why... Why do you do 1 on 1??
Post by: talon on July 18, 2007, 04:20:01 am
Evlesoa this is funny, I only bothered to read your initial post as it amused me, from the title and when I saw the author.

You got mad at me, and challenged me to a 1 vs 1 in OPP server, in which I easily won both aliens AND HUMANS just a few days ago.

Humans can easily win on a 1 vs 1 if your a skilled human, in fact it even easier to win with hUmans on 1 vs 1 then more. reason for this? Simple, its all up to you, none of your teammates will feed the aliens, and only what you do will have a consequence.

Are 1 vs 1 fun? No, I dont enjoy them and stay away form them for the most part.

If I am off topic, since I didnt read any of the responses, just please ignore this due to my ignorance ;p

*waves*
Title: Why... Why do you do 1 on 1??
Post by: NiTRoX on July 18, 2007, 07:01:17 pm
Quote from: "talon"
Evlesoa this is funny, I only bothered to read your initial post as it amused me, from the title and when I saw the author.

You got mad at me, and challenged me to a 1 vs 1 in OPP server, in which I easily won both aliens AND HUMANS just a few days ago.

Humans can easily win on a 1 vs 1 if your a skilled human, in fact it even easier to win with hUmans on 1 vs 1 then more. reason for this? Simple, its all up to you, none of your teammates will feed the aliens, and only what you do will have a consequence.

Are 1 vs 1 fun? No, I dont enjoy them and stay away form them for the most part.

If I am off topic, since I didnt read any of the responses, just please ignore this due to my ignorance ;p

*waves*


Liar, Evlesoa is a cool, mature,well-mannered,respectful,intelligent and a gentleman :)
Title: Why... Why do you do 1 on 1??
Post by: A_Total_noob on July 18, 2007, 10:44:03 pm
Quote from: "Odin"
Quote
Thats why he doesnt like them, he needs cheats to win. Ive got a recording of him talking on teamspeak. Post a reply if you want to hear it. I'll upload it.
gogogogogogo


+1
I heard he sounds like a little girl, and I wouldnt mind having a laugh  :D