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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Lakitu7 on July 19, 2007, 05:28:00 pm
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A new version of everyone's favorite aimbot has been released to work with tjw's backport client. Be advised when looking for and banning aimbotters that you can no longer use the GUID = Not Botting maxim.
It was posted 5 days ago, so it's popping up in the wild already. Oh boy! :roll:
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Thought I'd share this part I found too because it's funny. :) Look at the thanks part.
(http://xs117.xs.to/xs117/07294/secunder.png)
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I have a recommendation for all you server operators/admins.
Do not allow lvl 0 players to !listplayers
That way they cannot see who is an admin. It's easier to join and BAN! if you spec someone aimbotting, cause they won't know who's who.
Also, scan your games.log for the url that all operators know all too well and create bans based on that. I've been upgrading all aimbot bans to subnet bans (after checking that noone else is coming from that subnet :) ) Only Class C so far >:]
edit: an immediate and permanent subnet ban will give pause to anyone who actually likes your server. Additionally, the more servers that do a subnet ban, the more aimbots will have to think about their dwindling choices for servers.
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funlily is an idiot. he doesn't even know how to code a single bit of code. just using ogc. he doesn't even credit the original author. he thinks he is cool because of the cheater idiots surrounding him and begging for aimbots and other cheats. but I know who he is. he is another cheater idiot who cant code takes others code but doesn't credit em.
but I also blame mods who didn't ban him or request ban at first sight. lol and he was talking about protection methods after he proved that he knew nothing about how the engine works.
I am not against any cheat it could be fun but I am against recursion. This aimbot is not something intelligent it is pure copy-paste-adapt. lame...
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rofl, secunder thanks the guy for the post. xD
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I am not against any cheat it could be fun but I am against recursion..
This statement is recursive. In other words, "This statement is recursive" is recursive. Put another way, ""This statement is recursive" is recursive" is recursive.
I'm not sure you mean recursion. Recursion is defining something in terms of itself. Iteration is closer to your intended meaning. Plagiarism is even more suited.
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I'm not sure you mean recursion. Recursion is defining something in terms of itself.
you didnt get it. recursion is the right word
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So how exactly is Null(ify) defining his aimbot in terms of itself?
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So how exactly is Null(ify) defining his aimbot in terms of itself?
... he is recursing ogc
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You mean to say "he is copying ogc".
Please just use a dictionary if you don't trust my original post on the definition of recursion.
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You mean to say "he is copying ogc".
Please just use a dictionary if you don't trust my original post on the definition of recursion.
QUIT FUCKING AROUND
edit:
recursion - (mathematics) an expression such that each term is generated by repeating a particular mathematical operation
he is repeating exactly what ogc did
if you dont know what you are talking about , please dont open your mouth
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No, you dont know what your on about.
Recursion in this situation would be if his code was a copy of his code.
But even thats not quite it.
As your quote shows, recursion is mainly used in maths, and sometimes programming. its best left there.
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noobs ...
recursion doesnt have anything to do with the owner it maybe his or not
he is completely repeating the pattern of ogc For all of his aimbots
but that wasnt my point, moreover that has nothing to do with the topic
it is Nux trying to get the topic out of its scope
nux sux
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You mean to say "he is copying ogc".
Please just use a dictionary if you don't trust my original post on the definition of recursion.
ogc is usually a hook, is null a hook?
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I'm afraid neither of you understand what recursion is.
recursion - (mathematics) an expression such that each term is generated by repeating a particular mathematical operation
This does not mean what you think it means. It is refering to the following:
Xn+1 = 2Xn + 1
X0 = 1
X1 = 2(1) + 1 = 3
X2 = 2(X1) + 1 = 2(3) + 1 = 7
X3 = 2(X2) + 1 = 2(7) + 1 = 15
...
X7 = 2(2(2(2(2(2(2(1) + 1) + 1) + 1) + 1) + 1) + 1) + 1
When it says 'repeating a particular mathematical operation' it means that each time you apply the operation, you take the result and apply that to the operation again.
This is just recursion in a mathematical setting. In general, recursion is about the larger structure being made of smaller versions of itself. This is VERY different to mere repetition.
As an Englishman and a mathematician, I'd like to think I know what I'm talking about.
As for going off-topic, I'm sorry it took so long to get the point across. I thought my original post was enough to highlight the mistake and move on.
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I'm afraid neither of you understand what recursion is.
recursion - (mathematics) an expression such that each term is generated by repeating a particular mathematical operation
This does not mean what you think it means. It is refering to the following:
Xn+1 = 2Xn + 1
X0 = 1
X1 = 2(1) + 1 = 3
X2 = 2(X1) + 1 = 2(3) + 1 = 7
X3 = 2(X2) + 1 = 2(7) + 1 = 15
...
X7 = 2(2(2(2(2(2(2(1) + 1) + 1) + 1) + 1) + 1) + 1) + 1
When it says 'repeating a particular mathematical operation' it means that each time you apply the operation, you take the result and apply that to the operation again.
This is just recursion in a mathematical setting. In general, recursion is about the larger structure being made of smaller versions of itself. This is VERY different to mere repetition.
As an Englishman and a mathematician, I'd like to think I know what I'm talking about.
As for going off-topic, I'm sorry it took so long to get the point across. I thought my original post was enough to highlight the mistake and move on.
should I point your mistakes in every post you made? if you get what I meant just move on. no need to fix it. otherwise every single topic goes off topic
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should I point your mistakes in every post you made? if you get what I meant just move on. no need to fix it. otherwise every single topic goes off topic
Please do. I'd be glad to know where I went wrong so I can learn from it.
As I said, I never intended for the comment to go further than my original post. It was your response that took it further than this.
Back on topic: What's this about Secunder? I don't understand. :F
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Back on topic: What's this about Secunder? I don't understand. :F
see once again you lost in the details
look at the picture more carefully
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I've no trouble seeing his name in the picture. That's not my problem. I've no idea who the guy is.
Have you got some kind of grudge against me now? =/
..and btw, you've quoted yourself saying something I said. :P
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I have a recommendation for all you server operators/admins.
Do not allow lvl 0 players to !listplayers
That way they cannot see who is an admin. It's easier to join and BAN! if you spec someone aimbotting, cause they won't know who's who.
Also, scan your games.log for the url that all operators know all too well and create bans based on that. I've been upgrading all aimbot bans to subnet bans (after checking that noone else is coming from that subnet :) ) Only Class C so far >:]
edit: an immediate and permanent subnet ban will give pause to anyone who actually likes your server. Additionally, the more servers that do a subnet ban, the more aimbots will have to think about their dwindling choices for servers.
not giving access to !listplayers is a very bad idea, if you want your admins hidden give them @
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but then other admins cant see either.
and people might take offence at what he named level 0...
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I've no trouble seeing his name in the picture. That's not my problem. I've no idea who the guy is.
Have you got some kind of grudge against me now? =/
..and btw, you've quoted yourself saying something I said. :P
onoz
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I am not against any cheat it could be fun but I am against recursion.
that is to say repeating itself and not creating anything new
nux...
are you happy now?
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I am not against any cheat it could be fun but I am against recursion.
that is to say repeating itself and not creating anything new
nux...
are you happy now?
says the guy who copy+pasted lua from xreal.
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you can see the difference if you look at the xreal implementation and mine
since I cant use it at "game" I used it in "server" and made several traps to it
so it is not all copy paste
plus some parts of the xreal implementation is from programming in lua
but that is not the case in funlily it is a direct copy paste of ogc and tremulous code.
kevlerman nice try though ... you failed
moreover you quoted the wrong comment XD
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rofl, secunder thanks the guy for the post. xD
No, I thanked the guy in that thread that made me laugh...
Tell me your not that dumb?
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rofl, secunder thanks the guy for the post. xD
No, I thanked the guy in that thread that made me laugh...
Tell me your not that dumb?
sure thing Happy Aimbotting
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I'm afraid neither of you understand what recursion is.
recursion - (mathematics) an expression such that each term is generated by repeating a particular mathematical operation
This does not mean what you think it means. It is refering to the following:
Xn+1 = 2Xn + 1
X0 = 1
X1 = 2(1) + 1 = 3
X2 = 2(X1) + 1 = 2(3) + 1 = 7
X3 = 2(X2) + 1 = 2(7) + 1 = 15
...
X7 = 2(2(2(2(2(2(2(1) + 1) + 1) + 1) + 1) + 1) + 1) + 1
When it says 'repeating a particular mathematical operation' it means that each time you apply the operation, you take the result and apply that to the operation again.
This is just recursion in a mathematical setting. In general, recursion is about the larger structure being made of smaller versions of itself. This is VERY different to mere repetition.
As an Englishman and a mathematician, I'd like to think I know what I'm talking about.
As for going off-topic, I'm sorry it took so long to get the point across. I thought my original post was enough to highlight the mistake and move on.
God damnit, that's the next chapter in my algebra book....this topic should be marked as containing "spoilers."
*cough*nerds*cough*
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In general, recursion is about the larger structure being made of smaller versions of itself.
No, those are fractals :D Well, actually, fractals and recursion are very close related, so 1/2 of 1 for Nux :D
Recursion is the method, fractal the result. So
f(Xn+1) = 2f(Xn) + 1
is a recursive definition. A recursive definition is a function that uses itself in its definition list. Your quote implies that it is endless, which is a fractal.
Then there are also sequences, which your example resembles. :D But then again, its late so I need to sleep a bit, and tomorrow I will read up if it made any sense what I wrote :D
I am not against any cheat it could be fun but I am against recursion.
/*
* Copyrigth funlily
*/
int killCount(Player *me)
{
if (me->aimbotActive == true && me->bitingDust == false)
{
Player *target = NULL;
while((target = me->crossHairTarget()) == NULL)
me->moveOn();
target->dieAlready();
/* Call ogc aimbot code (Copyleft OGC) */
/* Comment by funlily: I think this does all the smart stuff */
return 1 + killCount(me);
}
else
{
me->say("Damn lag!!!! Cheaters!");
return 0;
}
}
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(http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/2061/evelsoawr2.png)
mmm... Evlesoa=Evelsoa?
Do we have a cheater in the forum? :O
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(http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/2061/evelsoawr2.png)
mmm... Evlesoa=Evelsoa?
Do we have a cheater in the forum? :O
Tell us something we didnt already know and ill give you a cookie.
Also its kind of funny alot of people are finding this site and posting pics of posts from it yet everyone claims to never use it.
Pretty popular place for non aim botter's to be checking up on regularly isn't it ?
Not saying everyone who does this is an aimbotter but i mean come on not ever body is going to check to see if someone they know posted on it.
Out of 10 people that go there 4 download and run it.
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http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/2061/evelsoawr2.png
mmm... Evlesoa=Evelsoa?
Do we have a cheater in the forum? :O
new old news...
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Also its kind of funny alot of people are finding this site and posting pics of posts from it yet everyone claims to never use it.
Pretty popular place for non aim botter's to be checking up on regularly isn't it ?
Not saying everyone who does this is an aimbotter but i mean come on not ever body is going to check to see if someone they know posted on it.
Out of 10 people that go there 4 download and run it.
I'll admit, I downloaded it. It is Windows only. I use a mac. I cant use it. I cant even run it. I just hoped it would have the source, but this new version doesnt.
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Also its kind of funny alot of people are finding this site and posting pics of posts from it yet everyone claims to never use it.
Pretty popular place for non aim botter's to be checking up on regularly isn't it ?
As both a coder and an admin in several places, I have rather legit reasons to obtain the source code and research any information that aids folks in detection. Can't speak for anyone else, but considering I'm one of only two of these "lot of people," I can't particularly assume you don't mean me.
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I'll admit, I downloaded it. It is Windows only. I use a mac. I cant use it. I cant even run it. I just hoped it would have the source, but this new version doesnt.
you know what this means...time to send their isp a dmca takedown notice.
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Sorry for the confusion Lak.
No i dont mean by posting a pic that i meant them.
I mean 4 out of every 10 people that go to *check* stuff like that are getting it for usage and not for research as quite a few people have done.
I too have downloaded the older version of this bot and used it on my own server with some people to show them how to identify it.
If anyone wants to accuse me of using it go ahead just check my kill total's lol.
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(http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/2061/evelsoawr2.png)
mmm... Evlesoa=Evelsoa?
Do we have a cheater in the forum? :O
believe me, i would like to jump on evlesoa (and ride him like a bull :eek: ) as much as the next person for aimbotting, but are you people fucking retarded?
now yes, he is evlesoa, and i wouldnt put it past him to spell his name wrong...but that account joined this month ( $100 says today ) and the name is spelled wrong
1. evlesoa has probably been registered there for years
2. i think he can spell his name ( not positive...but meh :\ )
3. he would have more than one post since hes probably been begging for trem aimbots/wallhacks/etc. for years
Conclusion: someone else made that account to frame evlesoa
i laughed at the idea of someone going that far so hard...until i saw people actually buying into it actually being evlesoa
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Who cares? Any chance to bash Evlesoa is not in vain.
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A new version of everyone's favorite aimbot has been released to work with tjw's backport client. Be advised when looking for and banning aimbotters that you can no longer use the GUID = Not Botting maxim.
It was posted 5 days ago, so it's popping up in the wild already. Oh boy! :roll:
Oh, the creators must be r1y 1337 c0d3rz if it took them THIS long to patch and fix a little different client code... :roll:
I have a recommendation for all you server operators/admins.
Do not allow lvl 0 players to !listplayers
That way they cannot see who is an admin. It's easier to join and BAN! if you spec someone aimbotting, cause they won't know who's who.
Also, scan your games.log for the url that all operators know all too well and create bans based on that. I've been upgrading all aimbot bans to subnet bans (after checking that noone else is coming from that subnet :) ) Only Class C so far >:]
edit: an immediate and permanent subnet ban will give pause to anyone who actually likes your server. Additionally, the more servers that do a subnet ban, the more aimbots will have to think about their dwindling choices for servers.
I should finally start working on that network/GUID registration system I've promised some time ago.
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we really need to move bans from admin log
since this means more bans
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(http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/2061/evelsoawr2.png)
mmm... Evlesoa=Evelsoa?
Do we have a cheater in the forum? :O
Tell us something we didn't already know and ill give you a cookie.
tehOen is Evelsoa, did you know that?
now wheres my cookie?
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(http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/2061/evelsoawr2.png)
mmm... Evlesoa=Evelsoa?
Do we have a cheater in the forum? :O
Tell us something we didn't already know and ill give you a cookie.
tehOen is Evelsoa, did you know that?
now wheres my cookie?
you fail ... I dont even know the address of the forum
I wont bother with finding it
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@Eeeew Spiders: I know what recursion is!! >.< >.< >.<
I also know what it's not. Fractals are a graphical example of recursion. When I say "larger structure being made of smaller versions of itself" that's not necessarily graphical.
My example of a recursion relation, that was in response to tehOen's dictionary quote (which he misinterpreted), was a proper example of what was described in his quote. So long as it is not limited, the operation could be performed endlessly. If something recurses endlessly, that does not make it a fractal. Fractals are strictly geometrical. My recursion relation example was algebraic and not a fractal.
If nulls code called another piece of code within it, this would not make it recursive. It would have to call itself (or at least something very similar to itself).
"A recursive definition is a function that uses itself in its definition list"
From this I get the impression you understand what recursion is. Though strictly speaking, it doesn't have to be a function. This, I think, is only a communication error and not because you fail to understand the concept itself. I'm not sure why you're telling me this, though, as my original post said the following:
I am not against any cheat it could be fun but I am against recursion..
This statement is recursive. In other words, "This statement is recursive" is recursive. Put another way, ""This statement is recursive" is recursive" is recursive.
I'm not sure you mean recursion. Recursion is defining something in terms of itself. Iteration is closer to your intended meaning. Plagiarism is even more suited.
BTW, funny code Eeeew ^^
I find this topic more interesting than the "Evlesoa is cheatzor" topic that others have now moved onto.. but I guess I'll go back on topic:
Is there actually anything about aimbotters having GUIDs that is dangerous? (other than no longer being able to use it as a rule for telling when a person can't be aimbotting)
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Guys, of course it isn't Evlesoa. It's his brother :roll:
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I am not against any cheat it could be fun but I am against recursion.
that is to say repeating itself and not creating anything new
nux...
are you happy now?
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@Eeeew Spiders: I know what recursion is!! >.< >.< >.<
you dont know anything about maths Lets discuss this
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Damn aimbots, lets go offtopic ^^
@Eeeew Spiders: I know what recursion is!! >.< >.< >.<
I know you do, because you have been recursively killing me ingame. :o
(Sig that kevlarman :D)
Actually, when you say "larger structure being made of smaller versions of itself" it implies that you can "zoom" into it infinitely, when we define looking at the "smaller part" zooming into and looking at the "larger structure" zooming out of. That's true with e.g. geometrical fractals.
With recursion however in the example you posted, when you zoom into the structure deep enough you get to the initial point where the structure is no longer repeated as in:
X0 = 1
The problem is ofcourse that you explained recursion using recursive sequence generation where you can only zoom out infinitely (or more appropriate: expand infinitely), but not in.
Geometrical fractals are just the opposite, though both are based on a recursive definition.
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Damn aimbots, lets go offtopic ^^
@Eeeew Spiders: I know what recursion is!! >.< >.< >.<
I know you do, because you have been recursively killing me ingame. :o
back to topic
because he is using aimbot. that is why he tried to change the subject ...
WE NOW KNOW PPL WITH GUID CAN USE AIMBOT
TREMBLE IN FEAR NUX
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you dont know anything about maths Lets discuss this
What reason do you have for thinking I don't know anything about maths? I've more basis, rather, for thinking you're guilty of this as you have shown you have little idea what is meant by the dictionary quote "recursion - (mathematics) an expression such that each term is generated by repeating a particular mathematical operation".
I know you do, because you have been recursively killing me ingame.
That doesn't make sense >.< Repetition does not mean recursion.
Actually, when you say "larger structure being made of smaller versions of itself" it implies that you can "zoom" into it infinitely, when we define looking at the "smaller part" zooming into and looking at the "larger structure" zooming out of. That's true with e.g. geometrical fractals.
With recursion however in the example you posted, when you zoom into the structure deep enough you get to the initial point where the structure is no longer repeated as in:
X0 = 1
The problem is ofcourse that you explained recursion using recursive sequence generation where you can only zoom out infinitely (or more appropriate: expand infinitely), but not in.
Geometrical fractals are just the opposite, though both are based on a recursive definition.
For something to be recursive, it doesn't have to be infinitely recursive. Though it is posible to imply an infinite recursion, it's not so easy to illustrate such a recursion. This is why a recursion can start or end with something that isn't itself. If you were to try and illustrate something which is entirely made up of itself, there would be no viewable content. My example was of a recursive relation. These are recursive (believe it or not). Fractals are recursive. They are only an example of recursion in a geometrical setting. As defining things in terms of itself implies infinite recursion, the term recursive is used to describe structures that are made up of strucuters which are only similar to themselves.
Many of the examples I've seen in this thread have not had a definition of itself within itself, but merely a repetition of itself somewhere outside of itself. Recursion is repetition of itself inside of the thing itself.
Damn aimbots, lets go offtopic ^^
@Eeeew Spiders: I know what recursion is!! >.< >.< >.<
I know you do, because you have been recursively killing me ingame. :o
back to topic
because he is using aimbot. that is why he tried to change the subject ...
WE NOW KNOW PPL WITH GUID CAN USE AIMBOT
TREMBLE IN FEAR NUX
Everyone knows I use Nux-Hax. That's old news.
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I know you do, because you have been recursively killing me ingame.
That doesn't make sense >.< Repetition does not mean recursion.
Oh c'mon Nux, you can do better than that! :D
For something to be recursive, it doesn't have to be infinitely recursive.
No, that's why "larger structure being made of smaller versions of itself" only applies to a subset of recursive structures, such as fractals.
To mention itself once in it's definition once would be enough to call it recursive.
That's a better and a lot more general definition of recursion :D
I don't see any problem with what I have said :F
Doesn't mean it cannot be said better! :P
Everyone knows I use Nux-Hax. That's old news.
// Nux-Hax
if (!strcmp(target->playerName(),"Eeeew Spiders"))
{
me->taunt();
me->kills(target);
me->says("^^");
me->tauntAgain();
}
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You posted that response while I was updating my post :P
You must be taking a more specific meaning of the word 'structure' than I am intending for it. I don't just mean visible structure. You can have implicit structure. An example of this is me merely saying "This statement is recursive". Though there is no visible component to that statement that is similar to the whole statement, there is an implication that refers to itself when it says 'This statement'. This means that wherever you have 'This statement' you can replace it with the full statement and it would have the same meaning.
If you don't se anything wrong with what I say, why do you contest parts of it? >.< Unless you misused the term on purpose, I will worry that you have taken the 'Repetition = Recursive' understanding to be true :F
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guid=aimbot! xD
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I'm sure if you ban all the guys without guid then ban everyone with guid, you won't have any aimbotters visiting your server. This sounds like the solution to me.
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Conclusion: someone else made that account to frame evlesoa
Let me go ahead and put throw this out here.
I am pretty damn sure that funlily told him to register there, cause funlily was the one who gave Evlesoa the aimbot and funlily told him to release it to whoever you want, so the point is, that could also be very very possible that is Evlesoa, just dont know how to spell, hell I am not even sure I got his name right in this post.
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(http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/2061/evelsoawr2.png)
mmm... Evlesoa=Evelsoa?
Do we have a cheater in the forum? :O
Tell us something we didn't already know and ill give you a cookie.
tehOen is Evelsoa, did you know that?
now wheres my cookie?
PHAIL!
t3h O3n is bioxtc/vcxzet/f0rqu3, I believe...
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If your talking about code this would be recursion:
void LeetAimbot()
{
LeetAimbot();
}
Recursion has to do with self-reference. If it just copying some other thing it is repetition.
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this thread is fun
lets blame and flame nux
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This has gone way too far from the subject. Get it back on topic or it's a close.
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(http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/2061/evelsoawr2.png)
mmm... Evlesoa=Evelsoa?
Do we have a cheater in the forum? :O
Tell us something we didn't already know and ill give you a cookie.
tehOen is Evelsoa, did you know that?
now wheres my cookie?
Ok take a look back at the flame filled idiotic posts of Evelosa and ten look at the mathatical intelectal post by teh0en and try that again ?
Yea my spelling is horrible but im not afraid of grammar nazi's !
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This has gone way too far from the subject. Get it back on topic or it's a close.
duly noted
on topic: won't this make it easier to ban them?
naysayers in 3-2-1...
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Sadly, no. A guid is easily changed/replaced and IPs can be changed depending on your network setup (basically it can on %95 of home connections)
It does make it slightly harder to easily identify if someone is using an aimbot, in that the rule of thumb was that if they had a guid, they weren't simply cause there wasn't one that worked with the backport client. That no longer being the case, we have to pay closer attention to anyone that may be botting.
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this was his 1st post...
i go make a post with ur name.
There was some pro playa without guid, and if u asked em to install, they said they cant. Now if they have !ban ^^
edit: some idea (my bad english..)
-Guid only server-> u can only join when ur guid is older then 7 days.
-new patch?
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Well may i just point out, that the guid aimbot only works with the exe that comes with it? Something i just picked up on while going incognito on a server.
So that means basically that they would all have the same guid? Therefore Ban the guid and that = no more aimbotters with guid's. It starts with like 2D or something.
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(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/1961/haxyourmomze2.png)
that was unexpected ...
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Well may i just point out, that the guid aimbot only works with the exe that comes with it? Something i just picked up on while going incognito on a server.
So that means basically that they would all have the same guid? Therefore Ban the guid and that = no more aimbotters with guid's. It starts with like 2D or something.
Actually I would not think that, cause the GUID and all other information are stored in QKey. Now if the .exe has its own database, then yes I would guess it would bypass the part of changing the guid. But you could be right if the .exe comes with guid then yes you could ban that guid.
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(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/1961/haxyourmomze2.png)
that was unexpected ...
OMG NOW NUX AND EVLESOA ARE REGISTERED AND THANKED FOR THE AIMBOT ON THAT SERVER
WFTHAX
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(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/1961/haxyourmomze2.png)
that was unexpected ...
My Nux-Hax have been usable with guid for a long time now. This thing doesn't compare with my Nux-Hax.
Features of my Nux-Hax include:
*Typing smiley messages ALL the time.
*Doing dances and drawing pictures with gunz.
*Occasionally shooting at enemies.
*Making the same rush EVERY time.
*Killing things that don't agree with me. This goes for enemies, teammates and some of the more unfriendly structures.
Kudos for the effort. Now try focusing that energy on something constructive.
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Shit yea ive been using the Nux-Hax for a few months now and my game has completely gone down hill !
Hurry now while the subscription fee is half priced !
Thats right people only 400 bucks a week !! get it before they sell out.
Only 5000 copies left !
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Guys: Don't flame me, but my friend has a Windoze box, and I wanted to see if it worked. It took 5 minutes to install Tremulous and "funlily Tremulous" Damn. It's good. I, personally, can't use it for shit, as it locks on, which locks the viewpoint, making you rotate enemies. I used it for about 5 minutes, got bored and stopped. It's not worth it. It's kind of exhilarating, at first, just seeing that it works. But after that, it ruins the game. It's simply not fun. I don't see how aimbotters can stand it. It's hella boring, walking around, not having to do anything to actually fight.
I have a Mac at home, and don't use the Aimbot. Just wanted to check it out. Report: It works. It works Reaaaaally well. I really hope Tremulous doesn't die because off this.
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I have a recommendation for all you server operators/admins.
Do not allow lvl 0 players to !listplayers
Then you cant obtain slot numbers for a clientkick!!! There are some names that just cant be "callvote kick"ed:
~
I think the numbers are invalid.
Also, someone somehow managed to obtain "" or " " as a name.
EDIT:
And what if someone copied someone else's name?
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I have a recommendation for all you server operators/admins.
Do not allow lvl 0 players to !listplayers
Then you cant obtain slot numbers for a clientkick!!! There are some names that just cant be "callvote kick"ed:
~
I think the numbers are invalid.
Also, someone somehow managed to obtain "" or " " as a name.
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At Kevlarmans recommendation, the slot numbers are already banned names on my servers, that way noone with a number for a name can join. Slot problem solved.
I suspect that the same could be done for anyone with a strange character for a name, such as ~. If you have a problem with kicking someone with a strange name, I suggest you tell an admin and/or operator, they can get the character used from the logs and create a preemptive ban for the name so that it can no longer be used. Hopefully the ~ name ban will work, I'll have to test it later.
As far as duplicating the name of a player on the server, perhaps it is time to kindly ask one of the many coders to create a patch that disallows it. Maybe it could be a part of or an addition to Foobar's NewbieNaming patch, so that even Unnamed Players do not have identical names.
If an admin is on they will be able to see slot numbers and the like, your complaints only really affect user vote kicks as far as I can tell. As the person who should be kicked has no idea who the admins are, they really have no idea what they can get away with. Maybe lots, maybe nothing. If they know that there is no admin, they know that they can get away with more and for a longer period of time. Basically, you won't be able to tell if you are on a server with admins or without.
If they are just morons, well, you can't really help that :-P
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you dont know anything about maths Lets discuss this
What reason do you have for thinking I don't know anything about maths?
Being a troll is a very good reason to say just about anything. And even better reason for others to ignore it.
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you dont know anything about maths Lets discuss this
What reason do you have for thinking I don't know anything about maths?
Being a troll is a very good reason to say just about anything. And even better reason for others to ignore it.
but not you lol
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it is pure copy-paste-adapt. lame...
Coming from someone who copies Icancool's joke about creating a fake account on that cheat site :D
Anyway, after the initial rush of aimbotters some weeks ago it has been more quite aimbotwise on the server I frequence, thanks server operators. And I have the feeling it will stay that way, GUID or no GUID.
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it is pure copy-paste-adapt. lame...
Coming from someone who copies Icancool's joke about creating a fake account on that cheat site :D
thanks for protecting the aimbot developers
and we now know you are Icancool
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thanks for protecting the aimbot developers
protecting them from...what? Making jokes about them? Hell no, make jokes about them, the funnier the better. I was making comments about you associating Nux with that aimbot, which is something the aimbot developers are not worthy of :)
and we now know you are Icancool
And you must be Eeeew Spiders then? Now it makes all sense!!
(My post count almost matches your post count, I have been trying to reach your postcount since 10 January this year)
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Coming from someone who copies Icancool's joke about creating a fake account on that cheat site :D
You mean he made the cheat-forums account?! No wonder I couldn't remember the password >.<
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lol nux do you mind if i steal your forums account?
haxyourmom is an ownage password
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Sorry. I've changed the password and email so that no-one can say things in my name. :P
Just make an account of your own =) Is that so hard?
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yes.
i was hoping you would open up your account to the entire tremulous community, so we could become a big hackering community that all log in under one name
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For the record, that "Evelsoa" was me. Glad to see we could all have an lol over it, though. Not sure who the fake Nux is though. :P
Oh, and I had to spell it wrong because Evlesoa already had an account on that forum. Or maybe it was his brother.
You know, whatever.
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timbo also has an account
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For the record, that "Evelsoa" was me. Glad to see we could all have an lol over it, though. Not sure who the fake Nux is though. :P
Oh, and I had to spell it wrong because Evlesoa already had an account on that forum. Or maybe it was his brother.
You know, whatever.
called it :)
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Guys, of course it isn't Evlesoa. It's his brother :roll:
Sorry for banning your brothers IP Evlesoa, you are always welcome on my server.
Also its kind of funny alot of people are finding this site and posting pics of posts from it yet everyone claims to never use it.
Who hasn't used it, at least once on S11. I mean Pol is just asking everyone to go Aimbot on his server. I have fooled around with it on my server once to show the clan how to detect one, was quite funny took them a little while, but once they saw be owning them up me +a couple randomers and them 3, they were certain I had a bot. Even funnier when they did listplayers and saw my GUID.
I would recommend server owners to use one to see how people respond when using them. Its funny when you say to someone Hey Aimbot, and when they really are they immediately reply and go ZOMG STFU NOOB IM NOT AIMHAX!!!!!11111one!!!1
I realize this may seem like WTF how will this solve any problems if people are using them. Server owners need to be able to detect them, there are ways to hide it, would explain why S11 hasn't banned me yet... Getting rid of wallhackers is a bitch, Saya's new clan {G} were usin wallhacks on MW earlier, unfortunatly one of the specs Demo's didn't save, so we don't have full proof.
Anyone care to host a server is dedication to Evlesoa. Call it
Evlesoa's Aimbot PlayGround
motd = Hi turn on your funlily tremulous guid and have fun :D
I'll change MW server to this for 1 day probably the 24th.
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*chuckled*
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Well may i just point out, that the guid aimbot only works with the exe that comes with it? Something i just picked up on while going incognito on a server.
So that means basically that they would all have the same guid? Therefore Ban the guid and that = no more aimbotters with guid's. It starts with like 2D or something.
Your wrong actually. [sorry for double post] Edit: Thought I double posted, nah just took to long to type.
Its just plain TJW's GUID, but "funlily" wanted to add it so it looked like he did more work, so he added it. Actually it was for n00bs who just wanted to join the game to aimbot and didn't have a GUID. Pretty smart eh "funlily"?
Oh Null has a trem account here am I right?
Any one who can access IP's wanna check the IP and compare it with Secunder, Devil, or Oblivion [Devil + Oblivion = same] see which one of them registered the account?
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Bet you $200 we dont even come close to a matching IP :)
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I thought we would stop giving aimbot(ter)s any attention? Why is it so hard for everybody to just not talk about aimbots, since talking about aimbots only makes them more known, which means there will be more people who might use it. Please stop talking about this nonsense, it servers no purpose other maybe glorify yourself by posting how uncool you think aimbot(ter)s are.
Just
Leave
It
Be
Thank you.
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Anyone care to host a server is dedication to Evlesoa. Call it
Evlesoa's Aimbot PlayGround
motd = Hi turn on your funlily tremulous guid and have fun :D
Can that server hoster do it such that the aimbot autodownloads? I don't want to get banned there for not having an aimbot.
Maybe lava is right, someone who would visit the forums might think we would have an aimbot problem. I don't think we have one, i haven't seen one in a while on the servers I play on.
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We do have an aimbot problem, unfortunately. I still see them occasionally. It was a lot more frequent, but there are still some floating around.
The trouble with not talking about them, is they are a part of the 'tremulous experience'. I don't think they should be a part of playing the game, but many (if not more) tremulous community members have seen them and want to talk about them.
Talking about it does more than glorify yourself. For one, it can strengthen a community to have a common enemy. Also, you might hear suggestions for battling the issue which you might not have thought of yourself.
When people give the following argument..
By talking about them, we're just making people more aware of them, and so more prone to using them.
..it reminds me of the complaints people make about glorifying guns in the media. They feel it will give kids the impression it's cool to have and use guns. My personal opinion, is that the kids won't become gun-toting gangstas unless they've had ALOT more influence than seeing a guy shooting baddies on a TV-screen. They like to blame the media, and so they forget about how messed up the kids life was before he went on that killing spree.
Now when we're talking about aimbots, the risk is a lot lower and the moral indignation toward it is alot weaker. Still, the kind of person who looks at these forums and then decides to use an aimbot would already have the state-of-mind that it's ok to cheat on public games. If they already have this mindset, there's nothing stopping them from looking for the aimbot themselves. Maybe the forums give them the idea that they wouldn't have had otherwise, but what kind of player would a person like that be without an aimbot? A deconner maybe? A spammer? He doesn't seem too interested in playing the game seriously. The aimbot is like bait for all those kind of players who would want to cheat.
It just doesn't sound like a good idea to pretend there's no such thing as aimbots just for the more ignorant of our community.
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Well may i just point out, that the guid aimbot only works with the exe that comes with it? Something i just picked up on while going incognito on a server.
So that means basically that they would all have the same guid? Therefore Ban the guid and that = no more aimbotters with guid's. It starts with like 2D or something.
Your wrong actually. [sorry for double post] Edit: Thought I double posted, nah just took to long to type.
Its just plain TJW's GUID, but "funlily" wanted to add it so it looked like he did more work, so he added it. Actually it was for n00bs who just wanted to join the game to aimbot and didn't have a GUID. Pretty smart eh "funlily"?
Oh Null has a trem account here am I right?
Any one who can access IP's wanna check the IP and compare it with Secunder, Devil, or Oblivion [Devil + Oblivion = same] see which one of them registered the account?
Actually funlily diddnt do anything to make it guid. That was vd_scrawni who made it work for guid. And it works on a static guid. You HAVE to use the exe that comes with it, AKA same guid with everyone that uses it. Well most that ive seen.
Lol secondly Secunder and Null = 2 Different people. And Devil and Oblivion are 2 diferent people. And THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT PEOPLE. Gosh the noobs on today.
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Aimbotters have GUID's now? Onoz...Onoz! Onozed! Onozen!
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Lol secondly Secunder and Null = 2 Different people. And Devil and Oblivion are 2 diferent people. And THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT PEOPLE. Gosh the noobs on today.
phail
I be Devil ;p
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..same guid with everyone that uses it.
If that is true, won't that make it stupidly easy to spot people using it?
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If that is true, won't that make it stupidly easy to spot people using it?
Well yes, but it's probably similarly easy to change the GUID or make it settable by the client
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Well may i just point out, that the guid aimbot only works with the exe that comes with it? Something i just picked up on while going incognito on a server.
So that means basically that they would all have the same guid? Therefore Ban the guid and that = no more aimbotters with guid's. It starts with like 2D or something.
Your wrong actually. [sorry for double post] Edit: Thought I double posted, nah just took to long to type.
Its just plain TJW's GUID, but "funlily" wanted to add it so it looked like he did more work, so he added it. Actually it was for n00bs who just wanted to join the game to aimbot and didn't have a GUID. Pretty smart eh "funlily"?
Oh Null has a trem account here am I right?
Any one who can access IP's wanna check the IP and compare it with Secunder, Devil, or Oblivion [Devil + Oblivion = same] see which one of them registered the account?
Actually funlily diddnt do anything to make it guid. That was vd_scrawni who made it work for guid. And it works on a static guid. You HAVE to use the exe that comes with it, AKA same guid with everyone that uses it. Well most that ive seen.
Lol secondly Secunder and Null = 2 Different people. And Devil and Oblivion are 2 diferent people. And THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT PEOPLE. Gosh the noobs on today.
Hi PwNz! I would like to redirect you to a thread to prove you wrong where Oblivion admits to being Devil:
http://www.tremulous.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5634
The exe that comes with the bot is TJW's Backport. which most people have anyways right?
I realize Player1 also pointed out you phailed at noticing Devil and Oblivion were the same.
vd_scrawni was probably just Devil or Secunder [Oblivion or funlily] that posted it under a different name to get some heat off their backs.
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Yea PwNz! you were wrong :)
But there was a Oblivion at Fragify <-- Sorry if misspelled, but I was under this name in another game and I plan to keep this name, but I am Devil.
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Yer i thought he meant the oblivion at fragify sorry.
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Well may i just point out, that the guid aimbot only works with the exe that comes with it? Something i just picked up on while going incognito on a server.
So that means basically that they would all have the same guid? Therefore Ban the guid and that = no more aimbotters with guid's. It starts with like 2D or something.
Your wrong actually. [sorry for double post] Edit: Thought I double posted, nah just took to long to type.
Its just plain TJW's GUID, but "funlily" wanted to add it so it looked like he did more work, so he added it. Actually it was for n00bs who just wanted to join the game to aimbot and didn't have a GUID. Pretty smart eh "funlily"?
Oh Null has a trem account here am I right?
Any one who can access IP's wanna check the IP and compare it with Secunder, Devil, or Oblivion [Devil + Oblivion = same] see which one of them registered the account?
Actually funlily diddnt do anything to make it guid. That was vd_scrawni who made it work for guid. And it works on a static guid. You HAVE to use the exe that comes with it, AKA same guid with everyone that uses it. Well most that ive seen.
Lol secondly Secunder and Null = 2 Different people. And Devil and Oblivion are 2 diferent people. And THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT PEOPLE. Gosh the noobs on today.
Hi PwNz! I would like to redirect you to a thread to prove you wrong where Oblivion admits to being Devil:
http://www.tremulous.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5634
The exe that comes with the bot is TJW's Backport. which most people have anyways right?
I realize Player1 also pointed out you phailed at noticing Devil and Oblivion were the same.
vd_scrawni was probably just Devil or Secunder [Oblivion or funlily] that posted it under a different name to get some heat off their backs.
Phail, I talked to vd scrawni myself and he is the one that posted it.