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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: player1 on July 23, 2007, 07:10:18 am
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Hey all. Today's little rant is about people who beg for credits and evos. Have some pride. Earn your upgrades. Yesterday I heard a player say: "I just need four evos." Four!?! What the holy freaking hell? It's one thing to say: "I need an evo for a basi run at the reac." Or even: "Hey I gave you guys all my evos and now I need a couple." With many servers utilizing Share, Donate, Overflow, and Retribution, how the hell hard can it be to earn some evos? I am t3h suxx0rz player, and even I can still get evos. Try going out and killing something. Hell, try just going out and damaging something. Get one evo, evolve to basi, get some booster poison, and head-slash every Human you see, then run like hell. Hide, heal, get more poison, and repeat as necessary. Then wait for the evos to come rolling in. Don't take on opponents you can't beat, stop running straight at enemies, and for fuck's sake, QUIT BEGGING!
Today's rant has been brought to you by n00bz everywhere. N00bz: they're what's for breakfast. Oh, and beggars suck.
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I only play with servers that don't have any sort of share/donate/wtfever patches. Still, it seems it's become so common to have share enabled that I still get noobs all the time that will ask for evos and creds even when it clearly states on the MotD that it isn't enabled. Annoying, to say the least.
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On the servers that I play on, persistent begging is considered to be spamming. As such, persistent beggars are muted.
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With many servers utilizing Share, Donate, Overflow, and Retribution, how the hell hard can it be to earn some evos? .
yesterday i joined a game on gloom2beta2 and it had camping s3 humans (ya rly) and s3 aliens attacking. withing 20 seconds i had 2000 creds, without having shot a single bullet yet
asking for evos, i think is only acceptable when trying to go for the early goon rape before the builders get turrets up or when getting ur team ready for an sd rush. other then that, you should just dretch around a little get some head shots and let the big guys get the kill and you get the evo
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As long as you can share credits, people will beg for them. When I see people asking for creds, I tell them to
FIGHT FOR YOUR DINNER
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I dislike share/donate/overflow. Lowers the skill level of the game and makes it too much like an arcade game. Its fun but not for every game.
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When I hear a begger, I tell him to piss off.
I very seldom donate money.
If I ever do, its only for the people I teamkill.
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I don't know any arcade games that implement a share feature.. mainly because there's not often a guy to share with. The nearest thing to share, when you do have a friend, is when you give him coins to play on his machine more.
I, personally, am very generous during the game. This is only because I'm confident I can get the points back though. If I do ask for money, it's more like "if you can spare some change, good sir" rather than "Give me your money! This is a muggin'!"
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Well, sharing and begging are two different pairs of shoes.
I think its a waste to have 9 evo, you looking at a nother dozen kills or so before you die, and you don't share.
Asking for an extra evo to get adv goon with people that know you is also not begging. But yeah, joining and saying "need 5" usually get ignored, Unless its someone I know who is not to shy sharing themself.
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I think its a waste to have 9 evo, you looking at a nother dozen kills or so before you die, and you don't share.
9 evos / 2000 creds is your signal its time to go rip the shit out of there base.
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FIGHT FOR YOUR DINNER
Best. Line. Evar!
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!mute howdoiputthecolorsinmynamebeggernoob
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I don't mind beggars, just as long as they've earned the evos or credits they're begging for. If it's some tard who hasn't build, but has been in the game for 20 minutes and has a whopping -1 kill, fuck him.
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I don't mind beggars, just as long as they've earned the evos or credits they're begging for. If it's some tard who hasn't build, but has been in the game for 20 minutes and has a whopping -1 kill, fuck him.
So, if I understand you correctly, you're in favor of prostitution.
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One of many, many reasons that you should not use share/donate/overflow.
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I don't mind beggars, just as long as they've earned the evos or credits they're begging for. If it's some tard who hasn't build, but has been in the game for 20 minutes and has a whopping -1 kill, don't give him what he's begging for.
So, if I understand you correctly, you're in favor of prostitution.
No comment.
Actually, comment. This is shitspam, wtf. Im sure you know what I meant. Your post was completely unneccesary, and is a perfect example of the horrid state of decay that is plaguing this community. And if you dare to make a pun about me brining this state of decay to this community, so beit. I walked into that one, I guess. But, you'll be proving my point yet again. Good job.
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Well, sharing and begging are two different pairs of shoes.
I think its a waste to have 9 evo, you looking at a nother dozen kills or so before you die, and you don't share.
Asking for an extra evo to get adv goon with people that know you is also not begging. But yeah, joining and saying "need 5" usually get ignored, Unless its someone I know who is not to shy sharing themself.
Or if it's someone that you know will help your team. I tend to donate when I have 9, or share when a "friend" joins.
It's hilarious on SST, I can rush 3 times in a row as a tyrant (15 evos) and even if I don't kill anyone during those rushes I still end up with 9 more evos.
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yes, when im full i don't bother sharing unless someone whom i know is good and will use the credits/evos well. cause when im full im usually on sst and overflow is on so my creds will go to the top killers on my team until they get full. When im on a smaller server i try to rush when i get full creds/evos and use them on the base instead of just dieing cause a couple of chainsuits ganged up on me. they get the credits but what do i get? nothing so when killing their base i get a step closer to winning the game
yesterday i helped a team mate get a goon, (gave him 1 evo) and together we raped the base. who knows what would have happened otherwise?
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Your post was completely unneccesary, and is a perfect example of the horrid state of decay that is plaguing this community.
Ah, I forgot to stick some relevant stuff in there. Sorry.
Im sure you know what I meant.
I'm sure you know what I meant too. :)
I walked into that one, I guess.
Yup :P
And if you dare to make a pun about me brining this state of decay to this community, so beit.
Nope. I can't think of any good puns. =( You have a neat name btw.
I was just sharing my humour >.> if you can call it that <.< with you. I beg you to see that my words are merely in jest. In future I will donate my more serious thoughts to the discussion.
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I like overflow and retribution, the other patches are t3h lame.
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lol-post-lol.
Sorry, I'm a little bitchy. But srsly, good joke.
[And for those of you wishing to catch me contributing to the problem I fight, this would be a bad example, for I am apologising and explaining my actions. :roll: ]
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just a little?
thx 2 all for participating
beggars: one step below TKers, and one above deconners
as for the people who talked about giving people a cred or two who deserve it, I wholeheartedly agree
but when I see someone dretch-camping for time-evos and asking for four frigging evos, I want to slash them as bad as I want to shoot spawn-blockers
9 evos / 2000 creds is your signal its time to go rip the shit out of their base.
Damn straight. I was playing a match yesterday where I was doing basi runs at the enemy base while 4 to 6 rants stood around scratching their snouts and slashing anything that came around the corner, enemy or otherwise. I don't mind killwhores, but take a friggin' turret down every ten minutes or so, just to show an understanding of the game.
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I don't donate or share unless I feel like it. I used to donate all the time and I realized that you won't get it back. I only share with people now and only people that I respect, game wise.
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I agree. People who are building (properly) or repairing, or who help during the move, or who'll go decon the old base, or who use chat for something other than taunting and begging, or who actually attack enemy structures are worthy. Or maybe board leaders. It's like admin status. If you gotta ask, you ain't worthy.
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One of many, many reasons that you should not use share/donate/overflow.
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The only use is for when you have to leave before the game is over, or arrive late. but even then its lame.
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The only use is for when you have to leave before the game is over, or arrive late. but even then its lame.
If I have to leave, I continuously rush the enemy base until I am completely out of evos/creds. And if I arrive late, I prefer not to play at all.
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Both good points, although sometimes I get called away and don't have time to rush a lot.
And arriving late is an interesting one.
I wont join if one team is about to win, or the smaller team is stacked, but otherwise I always join the losing side.
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It's okay when:
1. The beggars are good and can benefit the team.
2. They arrive to a game late and doesn't want to feed
3. The one being begged to has a lot of evos/credits and need enemies to attack other targets.
It's not okay when:
1. They suck.
I don't really see any other reason why it's not okay. Normally people should practice with their aiming with rifle/dretch before wasting away credits and evos with more advance weapons/class. It is annoying when people constantly beg, but teammates should help one another because its near impossible to take on the enemy without their help.
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asking for creds/evos is one thing
constanly spamming: "I NEED evos!" or begging for like 4 evos or 600 creds is just flipping annoying
repair something, guard the granger/OM/eggs, get ur own evos & creds, help better equipped players to damage the enemy
spec if you arrive late
or just suck it up and go out and earn some without feeding too much
I agree with David (!?!, j/k), if I'm joining a game in progress, I join the losing/smaller/less-stacked team; it's more of a challenge.
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Even if you dont kill a tyrant or goon, keep trying. Someone else may kill it, and if its a tyrant, you could get anywhere from 100 to 500 evos or so.
As for aliens, dretch around a lot. You may just get a lucky break and land on a bsuit with 24 hp head.
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I have no problem giving credits to someone who I know is good, and who just arrived. but people I don't know, I don't give credits too unless I'm like a tyrant with 9 evos or something.
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This is a rant? Pfft. This here (http://www.thebestfanpageintheuniverse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19980#19980)'s a rant. A funny one, too. :)
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This is a rant? Pfft. This here (http://www.thebestfanpageintheuniverse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19980#19980)'s a rant. A funny one, too. :)
Steely's back!
(out on work-release or did strawberry-picking season end?)
and with a timely link (http://rant.rubyforge.org/)...
what no, "//" afterthoughts?
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what happens if you rush reac with a tyrant like 3 times lose all ur evos but are in 2nd place overall for kills... is it ok to beg for an evo then?
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if you do that, you can probably earn your own again
that happened to me today
I even gave all 9 away just to stop my team from asking
and worked my way back up to rant again
all the time I was attacking structures
and I'm a really crappy player
but yeah if you are attacking the reac and dying
remember to stop and whittle them down instead of trying to be a hero
(try taking out turrets, repairmen and defenders - lol)
and since I will be there right with you attacking
I will know you are cool and give you some evos
also, asking once or twice isn't the same as camping a dretch while spamming constant begging, or repeatedly dying and asking for yet more evos
in other words, even if you are attacking structures, remember to stop and get a few kills or take out a node or two (they die easier than the reac)
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(try taking out turrets, repairmen and defenders - lol)
You might not want to take out repairmen if their base is still up but under attack. You could just be resetting their build-timer for them.
It's just a case of whether you think you can take the base down now, or you think you should get evos first. Before I enter a base, I usually have a plan for what I'm going to do when I get there. If I just want evos (with alien), I'll jump around biting peoples heads off and leave structures alone. If I have plenty of evos, I'll jump around biting turrets and such without touching humans unless they're in my way.
That said, alot of what I do when I'm in their base is purely subconscious judgements about optimum routes and goals. This only happens when I've put myself in a situation I've little control over (something i do on purpose when I feel as though rambo can save the day).
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I dislike share/donate/overflow. Lowers the skill level of the game and makes it too much like an arcade game. Its fun but not for every game.
I don't like the practice of "pumping" that's associated with it. You get 1 mega-1337 player who always maxes on evos/creds, so there's no real tactical problem with sharing for him. He shares his stuff with all the people who just aren't able to do it themselves, and they get all the great equipment on his dole.
Basically it's 1 player spawning a "dummy army", because, even though they don't play as well as he does, the 6 tyrants he raised all by himself are still difficult to argue with, it's kind of like buying bots to play alongside you.
You can blame the other team for sucking so bad that this guy gets so much go-juice, but it's still true that he doubly carries his team and sort of breaks the "team play" spirit.
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/g_share 0