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Media => Map Releases => Topic started by: Mexel on August 09, 2007, 04:00:41 am

Title: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: Mexel on August 09, 2007, 04:00:41 am
There's no doubt many tremulous players have played this map, and have grown to like it. So i decided to make it sexier looking.

--map-mcct2.pk2 is the latest version--  [coming soon]
--map-mcc.pk3 is the latest STABLE version (before all the fancy changes)--

==Downloads==
map-mcc.pk3 (http://downloads.mercenariesguild.net/maps/map-mcc.pk3)
map-mcct2.pk3 (coming very soon)

I'm having trouble releasing this map. I'm not sure why exactly. All teh textures and files are where they should be. But when the mcct2.pk3 is ran in a 'clean install' of trem. It loads only like half of the textures. But when the .pk3 is placed in my normal install of trem it loads fine. (all my map editing tools are in my main trem folder) So untill i can figure this out, i can't release it.

also I've been making this map, based off of a decompile of my old MCC since i lost all my old data (ie: the mcc.map)


Screenshots can be found here (http://aod.the-deftclan.com/index.php?topic=218.msg2604#msg2604)
Title: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: Fluxflashor on August 09, 2007, 05:26:30 am
Its a cool map Mexel can't wait to see this version.

~Fluxeh

[Anyone who is too lazy to find the link :) http://www.the-deft.com/downloads.php?cat_id=1&download_id=8 ]
Title: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: TRaK on August 09, 2007, 05:33:37 am
This is definitely a huge improvement over your previous effort. A few notes :

- Brushwork is fairly good, aside from a few areas that are kind of sparse.
- Layout is a bit too similar to atcs.
- Looks pretty decent.
- The side halls are too bare and empty. Add some stuff, and some location markers to know which base you're going towards.
- My fps goes from 100+ to 25 in the water room for some reason.
- The slime room is a bit on the dark side.


Overall, this is a good effort, and I look forward to seeing more from you :).
Title: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: fleash eater on August 09, 2007, 05:35:40 am
nice map very good space  and gameplay

ATCS texures actually work well on this map for 1nce
Title: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: Mexel on August 09, 2007, 05:42:32 am
Quote from: "TRaK"
This is definitely a huge improvement over your previous effort. A few notes :

- Brushwork is fairly good, aside from a few areas that are kind of sparse.
- Layout is a bit too similar to atcs.
- Looks pretty decent.
- The side halls are too bare and empty. Add some stuff, and some location markers to know which base you're going towards.
- My fps goes from 100+ to 25 in the water room for some reason.
- The slime room is a bit on the dark side.


Overall, this is a good effort, and I look forward to seeing more from you :).


@ the FPS, it's the water, i've gone through a few shaders to figure out which one is the less in reducing FPS. Still can't get it. meebe i'll do away with the water.
@ the markers. Sure i'll add them in the next build XD
@ everything else, will work on it :)
Title: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: Fluxflashor on August 09, 2007, 07:39:53 am
Found a few things, you can jump behind the big acid container and is very hard to get out. I can't exit one side but I can the other.

I love the way you redid it from Beta 2, I really wish we could still use the top of the middle are though to play on without using jet pack.

Maybe some obstacles in the middle to help dretches from being sniped?

I dont think it has much of an ATCS look to it, I mean the hallways are way better, and has mulitple levels. Top, Medium, Basement.

Cant wait for Beta 4 and or Final
Title: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: Mexel on August 15, 2007, 04:31:53 am
Well i have now completed the final version. Now hope to distribute it. So share away!!

Again the download can be found on our site http://www.the-deft.com in hte downloads section.

Look for MCC Final!
Title: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: Mexel on August 16, 2007, 01:19:44 am
Could someone add this to the MG download site?

http://www.the-deft.com/downloads/map-mccfinal.pk3

thats the direct link. We've added to rotation so we would like it if others can get it as we're directed to MG download site. Thanks, Mexel
Title: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: mooseberry on August 16, 2007, 01:56:52 am
Things I've found--

*The alien default base is terrible

*The upstairs area is confusing, similar to Dark. Too much hallway and not enough rooms.

* (http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1406/1132009754_10a20f740b_o.jpg)

You can build inside that thing by the humans base. On the ceiling between the stairs.

* I am a little confused by some of those lights that are just coming out of the ceiling. I suppose you just wanted it to look futuristic but it seems strange.

*I am a little concerned about being able to build on top in the outside area. I haven't tried this in a real game, but it might be an unfair advantage for the humans.

* (http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1153/1131519483_09137bb049.jpg)

These lights aren't solid you can float through them. This probably won't be that big of a deal but just mentioning it.

That's all for now, I'll write again if I find anything else. Just wanted to let you know about these things.
Title: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: Mexel on August 16, 2007, 03:28:26 am
Quote from: "mooseberry"
Things I've found--

*The alien default base is terrible

*The upstairs area is confusing, similar to Dark. Too much hallway and not enough rooms.



You can build inside that thing by the humans base. On the ceiling between the stairs.

* I am a little confused by some of those lights that are just coming out of the ceiling. I suppose you just wanted it to look futuristic but it seems strange.

*I am a little concerned about being able to build on top in the outside area. I haven't tried this in a real game, but it might be an unfair advantage for the humans.

*
These lights aren't solid you can float through them. This probably won't be that big of a deal but just mentioning it.

That's all for now, I'll write again if I find anything else. Just wanted to let you know about these things.


@Upstairs area. I wanted it that way. And it's not confusing.

Aliens base and human base is the same with the exception that alien base has a few boxes.

@The little thinger above the bases in the middle was made to have things built in there. (for fun of course)

The lights arent solid 'cause they're models (md3's).

@the outside area. It's clipped but not that much. So in the event that someone is playin it in devmap, you CAN and most likely will get up there.

Mooseberry, i appreciate your input, and will take into consideration things mentioned with my next map. Also Moose keep in mind that this map "MCC" is my SECOND released map ever made in gtkradiant. IMHO i think i did pretty well for a damn beginner. xD
Title: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: mooseberry on August 16, 2007, 06:34:14 pm
Quote from: "Mexel"
Also Moose keep in mind that this map "MCC" is my SECOND released map ever made in gtkradiant. IMHO i think i did pretty well for a damn beginner. xD


You misunderstood me, I'm not criticizing you, I think this is a very good map, and Great for a beginner. I was just trying to offer advice to help you improve it. Keep up the good work!

Cheers, Mooseberry.
Title: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: Mexel on August 17, 2007, 12:36:44 am
Thanks Moose, now if only i can get an }MG{ to host it :>
Title: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: khalsa on August 29, 2007, 02:27:25 am
It's up.


Faster if you contact tuple or ask on our irc channel : #mg on freenode

irc://chat.freenode.net/mercenariesguild
Title: Re: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: Mexel on December 06, 2008, 08:53:06 pm
RAWR!

MECKS ISH B4CK!

Having said that, I've jumped back into mapping, and yes I'm revamping MCC. W3WT! Be patient, soon i'll have a much better looking MCC for all to play/tinker wiff.
Title: Re: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: ddubb on January 04, 2009, 05:11:12 pm
uhhh TheDeft site seems to be down and id really like to get this map is there anyonewho could post it on fileshare orsomething who hasit?
Title: Re: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: khalsa on January 04, 2009, 07:18:16 pm
Is it one of these?:

http://downloads.mercenariesguild.net/maps/map-mcc.pk3

http://downloads.mercenariesguild.net/maps/map-mccfinal.pk3

Khalsa
Title: Re: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: amz181 on January 05, 2009, 03:42:02 am

you have to get used to comments like mooses lolz, people on this forum like to give constuctive criticism alot :P

yours is a very good map for just your 2nd attempt (im on my damn 4th and still havent managed to release one) and you have some really nice detailing coming along.

here comes my constructive criticism.

Some part are just bland, like the hallways that have upwards and downward slopes looks really crap compared to the rest of you map, so a bit more detailing would be nice.

the alien base is a little weak, and would be easily destroyed by S3 humans or a competent s2 human team.

apart from that. Great map!
Title: Re: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: Caveman on January 05, 2009, 09:37:28 am
And we have to live with idiots like amz that can't read the date of a post and thus think that last year's posts are recent.
Title: Re: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: amz181 on January 05, 2009, 03:58:36 pm
oops  :-\

most of the posts were recent so i didnt think to look at the top one

*facepalm*
Title: Re: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: Plague Bringer on January 06, 2009, 02:45:18 am
Don't beat yourself up, amz. Mexel did say that he was remapping, and, thus, your suggestions are valid and Caveman's being a dick. Surprise, surprise!
Title: Re: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: Mexel on February 26, 2009, 05:00:47 pm
lol.

Look at top post.
Title: Re: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: Bissig on February 26, 2009, 11:31:59 pm
Congratz on wasting bandwith by using >3.5 MB huge PNGs instead of compressed JPG for your amazing 1024x768 resolution screenshots. You could have had very nice shots at about 300kb each, but oh no, why do something sensible. The internet is wasted on the computer illiterate.

That fucking forum page takes me (a) minute(-s) to load even at 1.5 MB download speed per sec.

And to even prove further what a noob you are you saved them at 48bit colour depth.
Title: Re: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: ACKMAN on February 27, 2009, 12:46:55 am
[flame]
Congratz on wasting bandwith by using >3.5 MB huge PNGs instead of compressed JPG for your amazing 1024x768 resolution screenshots. You could have had very nice shots at about 300kb each, but oh no, why do something sensible. The internet is wasted on the computer illiterate.

That fucking forum page takes me (a) minute(-s) to load even at 1.5 MB download speed per sec.

And to even prove further what a noob you are you saved them at 48bit colour depth.
[/flame]

Epic map. Campzor but cool
Title: Re: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: Plague Bringer on February 27, 2009, 01:58:52 am
Wow, Biss. Who pissed in your oatmeal this morning? I've got roughly 100kb/s, and it's not that painful to wait. Multitasking: It's the way of the future.
Title: Re: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: Bissig on February 27, 2009, 05:31:27 am
The truth hurts doesn't it.
Title: Re: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: Plague Bringer on February 27, 2009, 12:23:27 pm
o.O

Je ne comprend pas.
Title: Re: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: Mexel on February 28, 2009, 05:47:22 am
Wow, Biss. Who pissed in your oatmeal this morning? I've got roughly 100kb/s, and it's not that painful to wait. Multitasking: It's the way of the future.

I did, and I must add it was quite refreshing.

Also, the shots were taken with fraps.

Think of more intelligent ways to increase forum post count.
Title: Re: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: Zero Ame on February 28, 2009, 08:10:44 am
i want mcct2, it looks hawt
Title: Re: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: Bissig on February 28, 2009, 08:19:07 am
They are still annoyingly huge.
Title: Re: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: mooseberry on February 28, 2009, 08:20:33 am
Than.. don't... look at them.

It's honestly pretty simple.
Title: Re: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: Bissig on February 28, 2009, 08:21:16 am
My last bit:

Yes, why fix things if you can just look away.
Title: Re: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: Archangel on February 28, 2009, 03:56:20 pm
Than.. don't... look at them.

It's honestly pretty simple.

truth. I still prefer original mcc, it was fine.
Title: Re: Marine Combat Center [M.C.C.]
Post by: mooseberry on March 01, 2009, 07:41:16 am
My last bit:

Yes, why fix things if you can just look away.

Looking away from problems is fine if it hurts no one and will not come back later as a big problem.

I think we can safely say no one gives a fuck you think the images are too big.