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Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: Studlut on August 12, 2007, 05:42:27 am
I don't think anyone who is a dev is willing to say it but i'd be willing to bet that development on tremulous has ceased.  The original creators already have all the praise and credit they could ever want, not to mention that the game will continue being somewhat popular even if they don't release 1.2.  The truth is that the people who made Tremulous aren't proffesionals... they aren't an incredibly organized team, they're just a bunch of modders the majority of which probably disbanded and moved on before 1.1.

I'm only saying this because someone has to say it, and I don't think many people would even consider this to be a possibility unless someone suggested it.  Of course it could be entirely possible that i'm wrong but I wouldn't get my hopes up.
Title: Re: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: FreaK on August 12, 2007, 05:45:13 am
Quote from: "Studlut"
I don't think anyone who is a dev is willing to say it but i'd be willing to bet that development on tremulous has ceased.  The original creators already have all the praise and credit they could ever want, not to mention that the game will continue being somewhat popular even if they don't release 1.2.  The truth is that the people who made Tremulous aren't proffesionals... they aren't an incredibly organized team, they're just a bunch of modders the majority of which probably disbanded and moved on before 1.1.

I'm only saying this because someone has to say it, and I don't think many people would even consider this to be a possibility unless someone suggested it.  Of course it could be entirely possible that i'm wrong but I wouldn't get my hopes up.

They said it would be released before next year
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: temple on August 12, 2007, 05:50:22 am
1.2 will come out when people start paying.
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: PIE on August 12, 2007, 08:28:23 am
Maybe its because you haven't clicked donate enough!
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: ShadowNinjaDudeMan on August 12, 2007, 10:19:16 am
I havent either!

ITS ALL MY FAULT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: next_ghost on August 12, 2007, 12:10:12 pm
Delay +5 :roll:
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: Nux on August 12, 2007, 12:23:05 pm
I wonder if you'd complain about an unfinished/untweaked/unplayable game had it come out already. They've already done a lot more than they had to and I'm grateful for that.

Unlike professionals (meaning paid, not necessarily skilled), who will rush to get the game finished before that deadline if possible (trying to fix what they missed in an avalanche of patches), the amateur game developers (amateur; meaning unpaid not necessarily unskilled) have the freedom to spend however long it takes to get the game right first time.

Practice some patience and some faith and I don't think you'll be disappointed.
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: Eeeew Spiders on August 12, 2007, 01:00:33 pm
Have you guys played all the necessary games on 1.1 yet? There are still thousands of games to be played left on 1.1, when those are finished, 1.2 will come out. So players, try harder to play all 1.1 games, it already takes to long! Try harder!
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: benmachine on August 12, 2007, 02:18:43 pm
I think the real question is: when are YOU coming out?

Come on, we've all known for ages.
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: Death On Ice on August 12, 2007, 04:04:56 pm
:eek:

Uh...Wha...?
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: ShadowNinjaDudeMan on August 12, 2007, 05:34:18 pm
Quote from: "Death On Ice"
:eek:

Uh...Wha...?


+1, wth does that mean Ben?
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: kevlarman on August 12, 2007, 05:35:23 pm
Quote from: "benmachine"
I think the real question is: when are YOU coming out?

Come on, we've all known for ages.
this post is made of win.
Title: Re: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: Vector_Matt on August 12, 2007, 05:54:25 pm
Quote from: "FreaK"
They said it would be released before next year
No, it will be released when Duke Nukem Forever comes out  :roll: .
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: benmachine on August 12, 2007, 07:45:28 pm
Quote from: "ShadowNinjaDudeMan"
Quote from: "Death On Ice"
:eek:

Uh...Wha...?


+1, wth does that mean Ben?


I'm not explaining my jokes for you. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coming_out)
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: ShadowNinjaDudeMan on August 12, 2007, 07:51:31 pm
Hmmmm....
I think I get it.

But I is not completely sure, Ill work on it.

Im sad.
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: Bullislander05 on August 12, 2007, 08:03:26 pm
Poor benmachine...Nobody gets his jokes.

I got it at least.  =)

Anyways, I'm quite faithful that 1.2 will come out.  I'm not sure if it's going to meet my expectations or not, but nobody will know until it's out, eh?

-Bull
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: PIE on August 12, 2007, 08:13:01 pm
I don't see what the fuss is about... is there something wrong with the current version? :D
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: _Equilibrium_ on August 12, 2007, 08:22:35 pm
Quote from: "benmachine"
Quote from: "ShadowNinjaDudeMan"
Quote from: "Death On Ice"
:eek:

Uh...Wha...?


+1, wth does that mean Ben?


I'm not explaining my jokes for you. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coming_out)
it's pretty self explanitory
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: Nux on August 12, 2007, 08:51:35 pm
Quote from: "benmachine"
I'm not explaining my jokes for you


Quote from: "Death On Ice"
Lies, Kev. Humor needs ter' be explained, dontcha' know?


Okey dokey. Think of a pink closet that this guy is hiding in. It's a VERY pink closet.
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: St. Anger on August 12, 2007, 09:36:49 pm
I'm content with 1.1

Take all the time you need Devs.
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: n00b pl0x on August 12, 2007, 10:22:03 pm
ben ur joke am gud

only nub not get ur jokes
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: Death On Ice on August 12, 2007, 10:25:08 pm
onoz i r nub :oops:
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: ShadowNinjaDudeMan on August 12, 2007, 11:58:42 pm
I was, but then I got the joke.
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: n00b pl0x on August 13, 2007, 12:43:08 am
thats still sad + you still nub
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: HamStar on August 13, 2007, 12:44:16 am
i r was nub until i red dis. Now I know what not being a nub is. Thank you benmachine!
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: ShadowNinjaDudeMan on August 13, 2007, 12:51:43 am
Quote from: "n00b pl0x"
thats still sad + you still nub


NEVERMORE!!!!!!

NO BITCHES NO!
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: PIE on August 13, 2007, 01:56:17 am
Good joke, but thats not what the topic is about despite the ever growing number of posts about it.. Please get back on topic and if you can't stand to leave it unfinished, make a topic about closets and who is being gay in them somewhere else and refrain from flaming. (pun intended)
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: Mispeled on August 13, 2007, 04:30:12 am
Quote from: "benmachine"
I think the real question is: when are YOU coming out?

Come on, we've all known for ages.

I just want to say that I love you.

I love your mods better, though.
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: Dance Commander on August 13, 2007, 04:45:22 am
hahahahaa i love the joke, and i love the people not getting it.  the ultimate 1 2 punch.  good one.
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: Death On Ice on August 13, 2007, 04:47:02 am
I'm still stumped, unless it's womb related. (roflmao) :D
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: n00b pl0x on August 13, 2007, 04:53:07 am
that sucks for you

the scientology episode of southpark with tom in the closet owned, and i bet you didnt even laff

@pie: this topic is useless, you should be happy that it got derailed by bens owning of the idiot that posted this

devs have no real deadlines, never have. sometimes its hard to wait but that doesnt justify 500 'when is 1.2' threads' and the like
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: kevlarman on August 13, 2007, 05:59:01 am
Quote from: "Death On Ice"
I'm still stumped, unless it's womb related. (roflmao) :D
not even close.
Title: on again, off again
Post by: player1 on August 13, 2007, 06:52:09 am
back on topic:

It's been said b4 that the 1.2 changes are available if you want to play them, that there are still jillions of games of 1.1 yet to be played, and that the official release is coming "soon". What's your rush?

off topic again:

Also, Studlut, you may be interested to know that there is a Tremulous server less than ten miles from you. It should be really near the top off the list when you sort by ping. P.S. You have a Private Message (http://tremulous.net/phpBB2/privmsg.php?folder=inbox). l8z
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: techhead on August 14, 2007, 12:14:53 am
If you look at some stuff, such as Dasprid's Tremradio notes and a couple interviews on the dev's, you'll find out that the balance changes on TJW's server are only the tip of the iceburg. However, the Titanic (metaphorical Trem community) are still sailing around the North Atlantic waiting for the rest to hit.

EDIT: Im not saying it's going to be bad, I'm saying it will probably be BIG.
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: tuple on August 14, 2007, 01:15:10 am
Please oh please I hope they call it anything but 1.2.  1.35, or 1.19, maybe even version 7.

After watching the continuing bitching about when 1.2 is coming out, I just think calling it anything but would be funny,
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: HamStar on August 14, 2007, 01:22:04 am
Tremulous: Advanced Edition?
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: Taiyo.uk on August 14, 2007, 01:25:10 am
Use cryptic version numbering like Linux, so the next release will be:
Tremulous 1.199.999-rc9-{prepatch}git13-mm43.452-svn324.5
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: Mispeled on August 14, 2007, 01:59:27 am
Tremulous 1.1.01
Yeah, we didn't actually change anything™.
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: benmachine on August 14, 2007, 02:07:19 am
Make the release schedule asymptotal to 1.20, so the releases go:
1.1.0
1.1.5
1.1.75
1.1.875
1.1.9375

etc. etc.

People will go INSANE.

edit:

r = release version
n = number of releases (counting 1.1.0 as the first release)

(http://www.bandstand.org.uk/~benm/trem/releaseschedule.png)
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: PIE on August 14, 2007, 02:23:06 am
They should just add a few more stars to the title screen and call that 1.2 so you all will be happy.
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: AKAnotu on August 14, 2007, 02:25:00 am
i wonder how many times they've done that
just look at the title screen
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: AllmanBros on August 16, 2007, 05:12:42 am
Quote from: "St. Anger"
I'm content with 1.1

Take all the time you need Devs.
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: FisherP on August 17, 2007, 02:44:22 am
Even though I can't wait for 1.2 I would rather a well thought out release, with as many bugs a tweaks incorporated than a rushed half done job done to keep a mob of whining schoolboys happy. No offense intended.

With the advent of the Aimbots I hope that the devs think long and hard about how to make it difficult for them, not the administrators of the game. For this I would gladly wait another 6 months.
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: Taiyo.uk on August 17, 2007, 04:35:06 am
Quote from: "FisherP"
I would rather a well thought out release, with as many bugs a tweaks incorporated

Surely you mean bug-fixes? ;)
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: Mispeled on August 17, 2007, 04:49:25 am
Bugs are awesome. Undocumented features are the most fun part of any program.
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Post by: Lava Croft on August 17, 2007, 01:49:58 pm
People get impatient for 1.2 this quickly? How long did you think we 'waited' for 1.1?

No, seriously.
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: Survivor on August 17, 2007, 01:54:03 pm
But we played 1.0, they never got that joyful feeling in their guts lava.
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: [insert name here] on August 18, 2007, 12:38:22 am
This is hard to answer.
If someone said "yes" it could mean "yes its coming out" or "yes it isn't coming out"
Same applies for no.

I really hate these negative questions they are confusing.
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: Patriotpie on August 18, 2007, 06:20:06 am
i has a crumpet & scone




1.1 is fine
wat kind of lossar would want unlaged 2 becoem  super stadnerd

i cant hear out of my lef taear and it friveing me insane
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: Vector_Matt on August 18, 2007, 02:45:23 pm
Quote from: "Patriotpie"
1.1 is fine
Nope, 1.1 has at least a half-dozen explotable bugs that would be used often by n00bs if those bugs hadn't been fixed in servers that are running modified code.

Please don't misunderstand me here though, I'm glad to have 1.1, but it does leave something to be desired. Also, 1.2 is rumored to be a giant iceberg heading this way, and TJW's modifications are supposed to be just the tip of that iceberg, it give me chills of excitement just thinking about it..
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: kevlarman on August 18, 2007, 06:10:43 pm
Quote from: "Vector_Matt"
Quote from: "Patriotpie"
1.1 is fine
Nope, 1.1 has at least a half-dozen explotable bugs that would be used often by n00bs if those bugs hadn't been fixed in servers that are running modified code.

Please don't misunderstand me here though, I'm glad to have 1.1, but it does leave something to be desired. Also, 1.2 is rumored to be a giant iceberg heading this way, and TJW's modifications are supposed to be just the tip of that iceberg, it give me chills of excitement just thinking about it..
when people refer to 1.1, i think they mean 1.1+the bugfixes currently in svn.
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: FisherP on September 03, 2007, 03:35:57 am
Quote from: "Taiyo.uk"
Quote from: "FisherP"
I would rather a well thought out release, with as many bugs a tweaks incorporated

Surely you mean bug-fixes? ;)

Ummm yes, that's what I meant - Bug-Fixes,


Quote from: "kevlarman"
Quote from: "Vector_Matt"
Quote from: "Patriotpie"
1.1 is fine
Nope, 1.1 has at least a half-dozen explotable bugs that would be used often by n00bs if those bugs hadn't been fixed in servers that are running modified code.

Please don't misunderstand me here though, I'm glad to have 1.1, but it does leave something to be desired. Also, 1.2 is rumored to be a giant iceberg heading this way, and TJW's modifications are supposed to be just the tip of that iceberg, it give me chills of excitement just thinking about it..
when people refer to 1.1, i think they mean 1.1+the bugfixes currently in svn.

They must do, because vanila 1.1 is pretty rough around the edges. I hear it was a leap forward from 1.0, but I don't know of anyone who runs 1.1 vanila, not even GameArena for all their policies and rules about official releases.
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Post by: sleekslacker on September 04, 2007, 12:21:51 pm
It's a free game FFS. This is not CS. Trem 1.2 will be out when it's ready.
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: The MC Horton Crankfire on September 06, 2007, 04:00:39 pm
I just wish there was a development blog going or something so we could just get an idea of how the development's going (or if it ever goes on pause for a little while, that's cool with me too, but it'd be nice to know when and why), you know, what was worked on that day and all. I find those really interesting, despite knowing jack about game development.
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Post by: Bowzer on September 06, 2007, 07:58:57 pm
This reminds me eerily of Gloom's development over the last few years when it essentially became vaporware.
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Post by: hodge on September 08, 2007, 03:22:38 pm
Quote from: "Bowzer"
This reminds me eerily of Gloom's development over the last few years when it essentially became vaporware.
<flame on> Sigh, please tell me how Tremulous is suddenly becoming vaporware? The current version has only been out for about 1 1/2 years, the game is still a blast and it still has plenty of great servers making great use of it. Do you honestly want the developers to rush it to satisfy the few drooling idiots in the community? Developing a game takes a crap load of time and I would bet all my money that the everyone working on the next version doesn't want to make the same mistakes that the team behind Natural Selection made with many versions. What part of "It's done when it's done" didn't you understand? The next version will be when it is released when it is perfect. Flame off
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: techhead on September 08, 2007, 07:14:57 pm
*cough* Some dev needs a development blog */cough*

Seriously, it would put a stopper on all the 'They aren't really working on it anymore' topics. Unless, of course, you happen not to be working on it anymore...
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: The MC Horton Crankfire on September 09, 2007, 12:58:56 am
Quote from: "techhead"
*cough* Some dev needs a development blog */cough*

Seriously, it would put a stopper on all the 'They aren't really working on it anymore' topics. Unless, of course, you happen not to be working on it anymore...
Down to the wire, Timbo: make a blog or come clean. :P
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: kevlarman on September 09, 2007, 01:45:58 am
Quote from: "techhead"
*cough* Some dev needs a development blog */cough*

Seriously, it would put a stopper on all the 'They aren't really working on it anymore' topics. Unless, of course, you happen not to be working on it anymore...
uh actually it would make things much worse, development tends to happen in bursts, and in between there is almost nothing or absolutely nothing, and that is what would make people complain.
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Post by: jhaa on September 09, 2007, 11:01:39 am
Hooray, the emos are here!
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: hodge on September 09, 2007, 04:25:21 pm
Quote from: "jhaa"
Hooray, the emos are here!
... This post is the greatest thing ever written on this forum.
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: PIE on September 11, 2007, 05:48:34 am
Quote from: "hodge"
Quote from: "jhaa"
Hooray, the emos are here!
... This post is the greatest thing ever written on this forum.

Still waiting on the emus.. :/
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: Death On Ice on September 11, 2007, 03:34:07 pm
lawl
Title: bof o' dem
Post by: player1 on September 12, 2007, 02:25:14 am
Quote from: "PIE"
Quote from: "hodge"
Quote from: "jhaa"
Hooray, the emos are here!
... This post is the greatest thing ever written on this forum.

Still waiting on the emus.. :/


just 4 u (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0FKSrCGVSQ)

(http://www.enchantedlearning.com/egifs/Emu_bw.GIF)

TOPIC ON!

How about a 1.1.9 release, just of the client for the three basic operating systems, already backported, and with just the three most basic patches: sort-by-ping, brightness as a menu option, and Options on the Play page. I don't even need the vote system or anything, just the same client that worked six months ago, without farting around building one only to find that it doesn't work with my favorite (unpure as all-get-out) server *cough* u know where *cough*.

TOPIC OFF?
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: Norfenstein on September 15, 2007, 02:56:12 am
At the time this thread was started Tremulous development basically had come to a standstill. I didn't have an internet connection for the entire summer, and apparently I was the only one motivating anyone else (I think tjw did a few small things, and Timbo might've been working upstream the whole time like he is know, I don't know). But I'm connected again and have already given tjw two lists of changes to try out on his server since the end of August (the first one has been up for a week or so now, if you didn't notice). I only have a few more small features I may or may not ask of him, so after the list he has now is done (and this one might take a while) I'll be close to satisfied with the gameplay (if not the balance). We absolutely are taking our time with this one because we know we are slow, and the next release very well could be the last from us.
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Post by: Death On Ice on September 15, 2007, 03:25:39 am
Thank You so much, Norfenstein. I'm glad that our little conversation on the IRC amounted to something. :D It's great to have developer confirmation that Tremulous is moving, and I firmly applaud you, sir.
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Post by: blood2.0 on September 26, 2007, 06:26:33 am
you should have named this thread the 1.2 conspiracy

 :D  :D  :D
Title: 1.2 isn't coming out is it?
Post by: kevlarman on September 26, 2007, 07:00:33 am
and you shouldn't be necroing it.