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Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: Werewulf on August 20, 2007, 01:23:40 pm: Making a new one in max. The old one i think looks like it doesnt give the rant justice. I cant do anims though :< and i need to fix some of the faces and fix the teeth and make them stick out (and more detail).
(http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/6949/rantwip1tt4.th.jpg) (http://img482.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rantwip1tt4.jpg)
(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4531/rantwip2zs8.th.jpg) (http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rantwip2zs8.jpg)
I can easily make it more detailed for more advanced engines, however I dont know how to animate in max ( i know how to in milkshape) nor port models to be playable besides wc3.
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: ShadowNinjaDudeMan on August 20, 2007, 02:50:54 pm: Looks quite good!
Just need to make a skin, show everyone and admire it, and maybe swap that in for the existing rant.
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: Taiyo.uk on August 20, 2007, 03:34:16 pm: Looks good - I like the somewhat "skeletal" appearance of the head. The only criticism I have is that it's body looks rather lardy - like an S3 killwhore tyrant that insists on eating all of it's kills.

I'm not entirely sure, but it may be possible to re-use the animations for the current tyrant?

As for the skin, make it look like the tyrant in your wallpaper.
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: /dev/humancontroller on August 20, 2007, 05:01:27 pm: Three things.
The chest and shoulders really looks like a man's body (although I don't see what it looks like textured). Make it more alien-like.
The eyes are ugly, they look like fish's eyes. Close them down a bit, make them more evil, but awesome looking.
Could you extend the shell stripes on the back a bit left and right?

So what features will your adv.Tyrant have (or are you just modelling)? Acid spray? Fire breath? Sonic roar? :D
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: ShadowNinjaDudeMan on August 20, 2007, 05:19:09 pm: No, it will will have the fart cannon.

Anyway, another thing, the Tyrants face looks rather goofy and funny from the front, ppl will die laughing, not screaming with terror.
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: kevlarman on August 20, 2007, 06:27:00 pm: uh how many polys is that?
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: Exterminans on August 20, 2007, 08:10:14 pm: I think bout 1500-2000 polys, or to say it in other words: Too many to use this model.
Try to reduce the count to less then 900 polys and we will see if you model can be used.
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: Werewulf on August 20, 2007, 11:18:04 pm: Quote from: "Exterminans"
I think bout 1500-2000 polys, or to say it in other words: Too many to use this model.
Try to reduce the count to less then 900 polys and we will see if you model can be used.

Yep, around 1700, i havnt finished optimizing the faces and such yet. Ill work on the face and work on the back plates for, thnx for crits guys! :)
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: kevlarman on August 21, 2007, 01:07:06 am: i believe most of the tremulous models are at around 500 polys, you should probably aim for that range if you want it included in a trem release.
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: Werewulf on August 21, 2007, 08:12:42 am: I wasnt exactly aiming for it to be in trem, more of a base for a high res version. I can lower the polies yep.
Here is the old model (not by me obviously)
http://err-overflow.deviantart.com/art/Big-Mofo-WIP-3-2605860

EDIT: sorry, i was counting it with triangles, its has around 900 quads.

Quote from: "ShadowNinjaDudeMan"
No, it will will have the fart cannon.

Anyway, another thing, the Tyrants face looks rather goofy and funny from the front, ppl will die laughing, not screaming with terror.

Here is abit more of an update of the face, teeth and such not changed, just resized the snout abit.

(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/faceshow.jpg)

Quote from: "Taiyo.uk"
Looks good - I like the somewhat "skeletal" appearance of the head. The only criticism I have is that it's body looks rather lardy - like an S3 killwhore tyrant that insists on eating all of it's kills.

I made him more advanced and realistic, I had to enlarge the front legs and change the proportions so it can look abit more balanced.

Quote from: "/dev/humancontroller"
Three things.
The chest and shoulders really looks like a man's body (although I don't see what it looks like textured). Make it more alien-like.
The eyes are ugly, they look like fish's eyes. Close them down a bit, make them more evil, but awesome looking.
Could you extend the shell stripes on the back a bit left and right?

So what features will your adv.Tyrant have (or are you just modelling)? Acid spray? Fire breath? Sonic roar? :D

I want him to have a humanoid feel, the actual tyrant revolves around that IMO but was poorly done, (the structure of the arms makes no sense and doesn't seem so flexible or powerful.
(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/tyrant.jpg)

The eyes are staying like that. As they will look like this:
(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/faceconcept.jpg)
Mind you, im still working on the face and will add more support under the eyes.

Like im sure iv said, dunno if i did..but ill try to adjust the back plates, i may have to remove the ones on the legs as they are taking up faces and look abit out of place.
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: kevlarman on August 21, 2007, 04:21:08 pm: Quote from: "Werewulf"
EDIT: sorry, i was counting it with triangles, its has around 900 quads.
to the gpu, 1 quad is 2 tris, i'm not exactly sure why people would ever model with quads, because it costs them (a minor amount of) detail, with no performance benefit.
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: Taiyo.uk on August 21, 2007, 05:22:08 pm: Quote from: "Werewulf"
The eyes are staying like that. As they will look like this:

<3
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: ShadowNinjaDudeMan on August 21, 2007, 08:17:28 pm: Better face, well done.
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: Plague Bringer on August 23, 2007, 06:24:16 pm: Beautiful model. I hope it makes an official release, or atleast gets put in a popular mod like TremX. Great job, keep it up!
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: Patriotpie on August 23, 2007, 11:39:45 pm: If by some amazing brushwork you could reskin the tyrant to look like this
(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/faceconcept.jpg)
it would certainly scare the shit out of me.
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: ShadowNinjaDudeMan on August 24, 2007, 08:34:03 pm: That would make the tyrant some serious shit.

That would be so cool.
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: oLz.HisOwnMum on August 29, 2007, 10:02:19 am: nice work on the :tyrant:'s head!

lovin the eyes and the skeletal look on the skull.

I've never liked the feet on the tyrant tho, they're just pointy like crab feet - they should be more beastly.

and are you just trying to change the look of the rant or are you updating the sounds aswell - coz the roar of the rant could be a little bit more deeper.

Good work on the models!
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: megas333 on August 29, 2007, 07:27:43 pm: If this tyrant is going to be the adv rant then give it the ability to act as an egg that fights, and let it have a charge up kamikazi bomb, so that all life within 50 feet is obliterated, and the tyrant dies of heart attack. the buildings stay unharmed, and the explosion is slowly expanding so people can get out of the way in time. by chance.

I <3 the drawing. Keep it up!

Now I'm back to trying to get WoW to work without actually having the needed data, and to try and find out how to load Trem mods off the site.
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: ShadowNinjaDudeMan on August 29, 2007, 08:28:17 pm: Quote from: "megas333"

Now I'm back to trying to get A Crap Game to work without actually having the needed k0dez, and to try and find out how to load A Good Game mods off the site.
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: jal on August 29, 2007, 09:56:54 pm: He can sanely use 1000 triangles for a tyrant, even a pair of hundreds more wouldn't be that bad, imo, but, the very important thing is: make LODs. Tremulous has no LODs for any model, make proper LODs and you can improve the current performance while doubling the current triangle count in the main model. In fact, if every Trem model got LODs I would bet on a 25% fps gain at large vis maps like transit.
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Zyuka on August 30, 2007, 01:41:56 am: Quote from: Werewulf

(http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/6949/rantwip1tt4.th.jpg) (http://img482.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rantwip1tt4.jpg)
(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4531/rantwip2zs8.th.jpg) (http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rantwip2zs8.jpg)
hurry everyone mark it as adult content cus the rant is so damn sexeh
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: megas333 on September 01, 2007, 12:01:07 am: Ok.. so why not we give the tyrant spawning abilities, or a kamikaze boom attack. Basically the tryant could run in, and charge up big boom by getting six or ten kills within ten seconds of each other, and then the tryant could kill itself with kamikaze move and kills all living things that are human. but not buildings.

If there is something absolutely retarded and made of dead, rotting crap please tell me, but very politely. I dont take rude comments very well.
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: Plague Bringer on September 01, 2007, 12:19:00 am: Quote from: "megas333"
Ok.. so why not we give the tyrant spawning abilities, or a kamikaze boom attack. Basically the tryant could run in, and charge up big boom by getting six or ten kills within ten seconds of each other, and then the tryant could kill itself with kamikaze move and kills all living things that are human. but not buildings.

If there is something absolutely retarded and made of dead, rotting crap please tell me, but very politely. I dont take rude comments very well.
That's something absolutely retarted made of dead rotting crap. :wink:
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: Vector_Matt on September 01, 2007, 01:01:29 am: Quote from: "Plague Bringer"
dead rotting crap. :wink:
He he, You have the perfect name to say that. :D

/g_onTopic 1
Great model. Get a decent skin for it and it will be a great replacement tyrant. :tyrant:
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: megas333 on September 06, 2007, 08:38:29 am: *Aims blarghification cannon at Plague Bringer*

*sets cannon to HELL mode- shoots godlike woodland creatures holding flamethrowers at target, causing forest fires if used while hunting*

*fires cannon*

*coughs*
Now then...
*sets cannon to HAPPY mode*
*gives Werewulf a leprecon holding knives through cannon*
Done.
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: oLz.HisOwnMum on September 06, 2007, 11:13:37 am: Ummm... just wondering - isn't this a place to discuss tremulous, not have a little cyber-bitch fight...

Please, correct me if i'm wrong
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: Scotty on September 15, 2007, 07:01:20 pm: Is this still being worked on? i may be able to do a little work on it as well, maybe try and lower the polycount.
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: blood2.0 on October 10, 2007, 06:13:08 am: nice work :)
give the tyrant shoes after you finish this mottle just for fun!
oh and add more legs ! like a centipede oh and give it a tail
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: mooseberry on October 10, 2007, 06:15:19 am: Lol, terrible necro.
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: Johnpp on October 12, 2007, 06:59:38 am: Wow. That looks...good. Despite the post date, I have to ask what is the poly count?
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: Eyn Xaeyn on October 20, 2007, 07:03:17 pm: Quote from: "megas333"
*Aims blarghification cannon at Plague Bringer*

*sets cannon to HELL mode- shoots godlike woodland creatures holding flamethrowers at target, causing forest fires if used while hunting*

*fires cannon*

*coughs*
Now then...
*sets cannon to HAPPY mode*
*gives Werewulf a leprecon holding knives through cannon*
Done.

blaghification cannon?!?
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: UniqPhoeniX on October 21, 2007, 11:20:04 am: Quote
So what features will your adv.Tyrant have (or are you just modelling)? Acid spray? Fire breath? Sonic roar?
Good ideas.

Hope this gets in Tremulous 1.2
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: Werewulf on November 09, 2007, 10:24:57 am: sorry for my inactivity as i kinda forgot about this place and had some life/personal issues im trying to deal with.

For those that wants the model to finish (im sure i have the file somewhere....hopefully) ill get it setup and send it to you in whatever default model file max uses for you to use/edit/finish off, just dont do bad shit and stuff. so send me a pm and HOPEFULLY i wont forget and actually do it.
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: Johnpp on November 09, 2007, 10:50:49 am: Good to hear, thanks for keeping us updated.
Title: Tyrant v2
Post by: thirdstreettito on November 09, 2007, 03:41:28 pm: I like it.....but maybe put a horn on top of its head because when it rampages its head goes down to human head level which = instant kill! :tyrant:
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Haraldx on November 19, 2007, 01:14:26 pm: awsome tyrant !!! when you will complete it i ... i .... i dont know but i give you thumb up !!!
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Caveman on November 19, 2007, 01:38:34 pm: Quote from: thirdstreettito on November 09, 2007, 03:41:28 pm
...horn ... rampages ... instant kill

When do you grow up?
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: atomic1fire on November 24, 2007, 01:07:05 am: heres an idea of mine to add to your tyrant but since I have no idea how you made the module
I just cut one out and used paint to show where the stuff is
(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7641/myideaslw2.png)
mostly just adding spikes to the side of the chest and Head because I thought it would look cool
you dont need to add them I just thought they would look cool that way with grey spikes sticking out of the head and lower chest
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: ShadowNinjaDudeMan on November 25, 2007, 09:59:14 am: mmmmm...

Id forgot just how hawt that tyrant looked.
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: iLoveMe on November 28, 2007, 04:42:56 pm: Hello,im a mod maker,and im working on a new mod. can you explain me how you extracted the basic tyrant model to put it into blender?

Thanks, iLoveMe
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Caveman on November 28, 2007, 05:06:18 pm: I wish you good luck.
Could you point us to any mods you already finished?
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: iLoveMe on November 28, 2007, 05:55:57 pm: I mean by mod maker that im making a mod for tremulous, but i already worked for warsow.
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Caveman on November 28, 2007, 06:16:03 pm: Come on now, don't be shy :=)
Give us some links to your previous work.

Please don't give us that crap "you will see ingame"...
Most of us don't play Warsow and I strongly doubt you are mature enough to finish any modding.
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: iLoveMe on November 28, 2007, 06:37:55 pm: nono u will see it ingame :)
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: iLoveMe on November 28, 2007, 06:45:00 pm: Hm I need you to tell me how you converted the .md3 file into a .blend one.
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Werewulf on November 30, 2007, 04:22:09 pm: Tyrant v2 :tyrant:
A custom advanced version of the tremulous tyrant.
This model was created by Samantha Zeven, aka Werewulf, year 2007.

I'm handing out this model for people to finish off and work from as
I no longer wish to deal with it and I'm too involved with sorting
personal matters in my life. So feel free to edit this model as you

like, id like to note that:
*No animations
*No bones
*No unwrap
*No texture

The .zip contains a .max and a .3ds

Simply open the max in 3d studio max, however it was made in version
8, so 8+ should work fine.

For milkshape, simpley open milkshape, go to menu>import and import
the .3ds choice. The models Axis and orientation may be wrong, so

just manually re-adjust that by using the selection group and rotate.
As for blender users, I think it can support importing .3ds so try
that.

It's just a mesh, that is all, if things pick up then i may unwrap
the model and texture it, but as for now, im not certain.

However, I do not offer the rights of people claiming this as their
work, I wish to still have it under my own claims, so if you do use
it for anything, please remember to note me and not claim it as your
work, Id be very grateful.

Zip:
http://files.filefront.com/Tyrantv2zip/;9158943;/fileinfo.html
Rar:
http://files.filefront.com/Tyrantv2rar/;9158941;/fileinfo.html
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Werewulf on November 30, 2007, 04:27:00 pm: Quote from: iLoveMe on November 28, 2007, 04:42:56 pm
Hello,im a mod maker,and im working on a new mod. can you explain me how you extracted the basic tyrant model to put it into blender?

Thanks, iLoveMe

err? me?

umm.. i never extracted the default tyrant or such, I dont know how to. This model is made from scratch.

{sorry for double post, just wanted to keep dl post and this seperate}
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: iLoveMe on November 30, 2007, 04:37:56 pm: Ehm i dont need you to give me your work, because i can just simply do what you did :)

i just wanted to know how you did but it appears to me there is an easiest way which consist into importing the .md3 in blender.
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Werewulf on December 01, 2007, 04:40:28 am: im not sure.. o.0

just export the model you have open in milkshape into .3ds or something, i really doubt it will have animations.. im not..too sure at all.

anyway, here is some samples of my past 3d work:

(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/COS%20Models%20and%20Betas/dunedragon.jpg)
(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/COS%20Models%20and%20Betas/newd5.jpg)
(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/COS%20Models%20and%20Betas/newd4.jpg)
(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/COS%20Models%20and%20Betas/newd3.jpg)
(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/COS%20Models%20and%20Betas/newd2.jpg)
(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/COS%20Models%20and%20Betas/NewDrgonTriangle.jpg)
(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/Misc/wip2-1.jpg)

Thumbnail images:
(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/th_show2-2.jpg) (http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/show2-2.jpg)
[URL=http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/zerglingshow.jpg](http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/th_zerglingshow.jpg) (http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/Misc/wulfrender9.jpg)
(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/th_SealDragonwip4.jpg) (http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/SealDragonwip4.jpg)(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/th_SealDragonwip3pic4.jpg) (http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/SealDragonwip3pic4.jpg)
(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/th_SealDragonwip3pic3.jpg) (http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/SealDragonwip3pic3.jpg)(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/th_Skinshow.jpg) (http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/Skinshow.jpg)
(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/th_grayrender.jpg) (http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/grayrender.jpg)(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/th_RatMaxRender.jpg) (http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/RatMaxRender.jpg)
(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/th_grarkkgh.jpg) (http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/grarkkgh.jpg)(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/th_muddy.jpg) (http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/muddy.jpg)
[URL=http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/rat2.jpg](http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/th_rat2.jpg) (http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/dogshitlick.jpg)
(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/th_rat1.jpg) (http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/rat1.jpg)

Mario based texture sheet:
(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/Misc/MARIODOODADSHEET.jpg)
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Taiyo.uk on December 01, 2007, 05:53:48 am: * Taiyo.uk has wet his pants.
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: ShadowNinjaDudeMan on December 01, 2007, 07:18:29 am: Holy SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!!!!!!
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: iLoveMe on December 01, 2007, 08:27:42 am: My only question is how to make textures like that, cause as werewulf said, there are not the skins and i dont think its possible to use the first ones
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Werewulf on December 01, 2007, 09:42:46 am: Quote from: iLoveMe on December 01, 2007, 08:27:42 am
My only question is how to make textures like that, cause as werewulf said, there are not the skins and i dont think its possible to use the first ones

Textures for what? The tyrant?
You can unwrap in milkshape, screenshot and draw over that an apply as a material.

As for detail wise you mean? I..dont know how to teach or tell that, just practice..alot..

And as I said, in time I MIGHT make a texture for it (which means ill unwrap it). But for the moment its best you do it yourself or use other sources.

anyway, the images seemed to be bugged and i cant fix them.
but here is my deviantart page:
http://darksalvation.deviantart.com/

And 3d models I made for a project (i didnt animated them, i honestly believe...well..the person who took over them did put them to use..but..ergghh..)

http://www.moddb.com/mods/5862/sstld
http://www.moddb.com/mods/5862/sstld/images/56382/tanker-bug#imagebox
http://www.moddb.com/mods/5862/sstld/images/56381/plasma-bug#imagebox
http://www.moddb.com/mods/5862/sstld/images/56675/bug-mound#imagebox
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: blood2.0 on December 11, 2007, 01:01:32 am: uh i think the max polly cont is 100 :P sucks doesn't it
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Redsky on December 11, 2007, 02:44:55 pm: Quote from: iLoveMe on November 28, 2007, 06:45:00 pm
Hm I need you to tell me how you converted the .md3 file into a .blend one.
hmmm, that will not be so easy as every download link i know doesnt work anymore :-[
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Johnpp on December 15, 2007, 07:38:57 am: Quote from: blood2.0 on December 11, 2007, 01:01:32 am
uh i think the max polly cont is 100 :P sucks doesn't it
No, the stock idtech3 polygon count is 1000 per mesh. And you can have a maximum of 32 meshes.

So, the maximum polygon count would be 32,000.
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Bunneh on December 22, 2007, 04:38:19 am: @ Werewulf:

Seeing as to how you claim those screenies are yours, PLUS they have a female name on them, I'll ask one thing and one thing only;

Would you please pay for both our sex changes so I can have your babies? I'm a guy, you're a woman...hell, it could work.
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Death On Ice on December 22, 2007, 06:16:31 am: Sig-worthy quote, foh show.

Also, amazing work!
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Thisguy on February 16, 2008, 06:03:06 pm: im no genius on 3-d art and even lessso on putting them into games but the poly count ishow many of those"plates"are in the imagesome gamse can hadle loads (crysis for example) and old games go UHHH :o when u youuse lots.

All in All it looks good (it be nice whith a touch of H.R Giger in the texture)if i was gonna give it an ability id have a sort of roar (similar to the adv. basalisk acid but with no damage and less shake) or the tyrant turn itslef into a sort of nest (the player become a new alien.) the nest is like a holve but you can exit and are auto ejected After a loooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggg time but you emerge as a tryant. The nest it very vunerable but has higer than average regenration. When the nest is blown up i thuns intoafleshy mass any aliens within the nest are trapped untillthe mass fades away (very long time just to add balance) its a gamble but it say its worth looking into.
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: techhead on February 17, 2008, 01:22:45 am: Wait, what?
What are you on about???
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: thirdstreettito on February 17, 2008, 02:46:46 pm: Werewulf I like it.
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Thisguy on February 17, 2008, 03:50:59 pm: Quote from: techhead on February 17, 2008, 01:22:45 am
Wait, what?
What are you on about???

it might help you if my spacebar actually worked.

the idea was the rant could become a sort of hiveish thing that tuned any alien (exept rant) into a brand new rant (taking longer the lower level you are e.g goon= 2 min dretch = 6 for balance of course) it takes a while and the hive is weak and if its destroyed theres is wreckage that stayes there for ages. any alien that were in the hive are trapped in the wreckage until it explodes (some 3 min l8er) then they die.

Or a screenshaking roar like the advance basi acid gas (exept weaker)
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Atom Eve on February 17, 2008, 04:18:03 pm: Quote from: Thisguy on February 17, 2008, 03:50:59 pm
Quote from: techhead on February 17, 2008, 01:22:45 am
Wait, what?
What are you on about???

it might help you if my spacebar actually worked.

the idea was the rant could become a sort of hiveish thing that tuned any alien (exept rant) into a brand new rant (taking longer the lower level you are e.g goon= 2 min dretch = 6 for balance of course) it takes a while and the hive is weak and if its destroyed theres is wreckage that stayes there for ages. any alien that were in the hive are trapped in the wreckage until it explodes (some 3 min l8er) then they die.

Or a screenshaking roar like the advance basi acid gas (exept weaker)

I understood the last sentence. Everything else might as well be ancient Greek.
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Thisguy on February 17, 2008, 05:36:04 pm: Quote from: Atom Eve on February 17, 2008, 04:18:03 pm
Quote from: Thisguy on February 17, 2008, 03:50:59 pm
Quote from: techhead on February 17, 2008, 01:22:45 am
Wait, what?
What are you on about???

it might help you if my spacebar actually worked.

the idea was the rant could become a sort of hiveish thing that tuned any alien (exept rant) into a brand new rant (taking longer the lower level you are e.g goon= 2 min dretch = 6 for balance of course) it takes a while and the hive is weak and if its destroyed theres is wreckage that stayes there for ages. any alien that were in the hive are trapped in the wreckage until it explodes (some 3 min l8er) then they die.

Or a screenshaking roar like the advance basi acid gas (exept weaker)

I understood the last sentence. Everything else might as well be ancient Greek.

About that... :-\
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: whitebear on February 17, 2008, 10:46:09 pm: What have you been taking? ???
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Amore on February 18, 2008, 02:24:22 am: One thing that I have noticed that I dislike about the tyrant is it's "charge" animation makes it look way to much like a spider. It should be some big beast, not a spider thing like from Spy kids 2 (I know that is such a little kid movie, but I saw it with some friends for the hell of it and it was the best reference I could think of. ((Also I'm 28.)) ) If you don't know what I'm talking about, go devmap a large map such as Transit, g_alienstage 2, give funds 9, g_thirdperson 1, and than that one something like g_thirpersonrange (I forget the cvar.) and set that to 100 and "charge" and you'll see what I mean. I am no modeler or animator, though I am thinking about trying to pick up the skills as a hobby if I have the time, so I have no idea how hard this would be, but that is just my problem with the current Tyrant.

Oh and Werewulf/Samantha, GREAT work!
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Atom Eve on February 18, 2008, 02:57:04 am: Quote from: Amore on February 18, 2008, 02:24:22 am
One thing that I have noticed that I dislike about the tyrant is it's "charge" animation makes it look way to much like a spider.

In case you hadn't noticed, the aliens are very arachnid/bug-like.
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: thirdstreettito on February 18, 2008, 03:01:09 am: Quote from: Atom Eve on February 18, 2008, 02:57:04 am
In case you hadn't noticed, the aliens are very arachnid/bug-like.

WHOA I HAD NO IDEA!
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Atom Eve on February 18, 2008, 03:02:44 am: Quote from: thirdstreettito on February 18, 2008, 03:01:09 am
Quote from: Atom Eve on February 18, 2008, 02:57:04 am
In case you hadn't noticed, the aliens are very arachnid/bug-like.

WHOA I HAD NO IDEA!

I know, it shocked me too. :(
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Lava Croft on February 18, 2008, 03:08:25 am: Quote from: Atom Eve on February 18, 2008, 02:57:04 am
In case you hadn't noticed, the aliens are very arachnid/bug-like.
The 'Aliens' actually were 'Spiders' in the past.
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: 4RT1LL3RY on February 18, 2008, 03:59:55 am: For an advanced Tyrant I think that when it charges and roars the roar should shake the screens of humans around them or blur it a bit. Think the big baddies scream in Bioshock.
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: mooseberry on February 18, 2008, 05:49:38 am: I kind of think the tyrant doesn't really look like it should be a spider at all. Obviously the dretch etc look like spiders, but the goon and rant don't. They do seem more "alien" which I think is a good thing.

(a) Amore-- Spy Kids huh? ;)
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on February 18, 2008, 06:53:43 am: Quote from: Lava Croft on February 18, 2008, 03:08:25 am
Quote from: Atom Eve on February 18, 2008, 02:57:04 am
In case you hadn't noticed, the aliens are very arachnid/bug-like.
The 'Aliens' actually were 'Spiders' in the past.

if there is a kind of concept like that (like background story), there could be at least a short intro for 1.2 :-) if a kind of slideshow is enough (6-7 pics with short animations maybe but just like in disciples2), i would like to draw for them, so it will be ready till autumn :-)
srsly. who should i ask about it?
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: techhead on February 18, 2008, 01:47:01 pm: Personally, I never really liked how the Tyrant's upper body looked Human-like.
I mean, it does pretty much look like a chest, arms, and head, unlike its more spidery comrades.
My version of tyrant would be a little more crab-like than the current version, to reflect upon its toughness and health.
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Thisguy on February 18, 2008, 03:00:33 pm: Quote from: whitebear on February 17, 2008, 10:46:09 pm
What have you been taking? ???

take a walk around in britan without a gas mask you'll c
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: HamStar on February 18, 2008, 03:40:13 pm: Thisguy, when you talk of a hive-ish mess before the actual evolution, do you mean something like in StarCraft where you have a zerg drone surrounded by a gooey mess before turning into the desired building?

liek dis ? : http://www.carlsguides.com/pictures/starcraft/zerg2sunkencolony.jpg
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: mooseberry on February 18, 2008, 05:29:14 pm: Here is what a tyrant really looks like:

(http://www.michaelgormley.com/asia/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/PolPot.JPG)
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: pharo212 on February 18, 2008, 08:58:35 pm: No, thats a dictater. Also known as overmind.
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: whitebear on February 19, 2008, 06:04:19 am: Quote from: + OPTIMUS + on February 18, 2008, 06:53:43 am
Quote from: Lava Croft on February 18, 2008, 03:08:25 am
Quote from: Atom Eve on February 18, 2008, 02:57:04 am
In case you hadn't noticed, the aliens are very arachnid/bug-like.
The 'Aliens' actually were 'Spiders' in the past.

if there is a kind of concept like that (like background story), there could be at least a short intro for 1.2 :-) if a kind of slideshow is enough (6-7 pics with short animations maybe but just like in disciples2), i would like to draw for them, so it will be ready till autumn :-)
srsly. who should i ask about it?
"War. War never changes." sound familiar?
I bet the aliens story is similar to next:
Radioactive waste mutated a random mushroom that developed it self a mouth. Then it ate random spider passing by and evolved into Overmind. Overtime it started to reproduce by producing eggs in similar way mushrooms reproduce. etc.

Shrooms!
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Thisguy on February 19, 2008, 12:03:26 pm: Quote from: whitebear on February 19, 2008, 06:04:19 am
Quote from: + OPTIMUS + on February 18, 2008, 06:53:43 am
Quote from: Lava Croft on February 18, 2008, 03:08:25 am
Quote from: Atom Eve on February 18, 2008, 02:57:04 am
In case you hadn't noticed, the aliens are very arachnid/bug-like.
The 'Aliens' actually were 'Spiders' in the past.

if there is a kind of concept like that (like background story), there could be at least a short intro for 1.2 :-) if a kind of slideshow is enough (6-7 pics with short animations maybe but just like in disciples2), i would like to draw for them, so it will be ready till autumn :-)
srsly. who should i ask about it?
"War. War never changes." sound familiar?
I bet the aliens story is similar to next:
Radioactive waste mutated a random mushroom that developed it self a mouth. Then it ate random spider passing by and evolved into Overmind. Overtime it started to reproduce by producing eggs in similar way mushrooms reproduce. etc.

Shrooms!

i tookaclose look at a dretch the other day and if you look close up it has four vestigial arms underneth its head. thy're alllittle tyrant wannabies.
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: techhead on February 20, 2008, 01:57:40 am: All the aliens have 6 legs, and a pair of arms/pincers, depending on the class.
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: + OPTIMUS + on February 21, 2008, 12:20:56 am: I demand the background story -.-
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: whitebear on February 21, 2008, 07:16:37 am: Why don't you ask for it in irc. I am sure the devs make up one just for you. "One Thursday night drunk trem devs attempted to shoot miruru-beam out of their eyes at passing by cat. They missed it and hit spider instead. But it was radioactive spider that had hour ago bit an annoying news paper photographer. Now it mutated due too many random events and started to wreck havoc in world."
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: X-20 on February 21, 2008, 07:24:01 am: Just for hee-haws and laughs il try and make a skin for the tyrant model :P (if its ok with you? im working with it in blender)
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Kaleo on February 21, 2008, 08:59:33 am: Not entirely sure, but I have a feeling that it's blood whose behind all these necros in the past week or two.
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Taiyo.uk on February 21, 2008, 10:05:46 pm: Quote from: + OPTIMUS + on February 21, 2008, 12:20:56 am
I demand the background story -.-
Once upon a time... Eight legged aliens had excessive polycounts.
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: whitebear on February 22, 2008, 05:55:09 am: Once upon a time the concepts artist of tremulous had momentary memory lapse.
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Thisguy on February 22, 2008, 12:22:51 pm: Quote from: + OPTIMUS + on February 21, 2008, 12:20:56 am
I demand the background story -.-

once apon a time somebody modded quake. the mod then became a stand alone game in itself.
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Critters on February 23, 2008, 12:44:32 am: Quote from: Werewulf on December 01, 2007, 04:40:28 am
im not sure.. o.0

just export the model you have open in milkshape into .3ds or something, i really doubt it will have animations.. im not..too sure at all.

anyway, here is some samples of my past 3d work:

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/COS%20Models%20and%20Betas/dunedragon.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/COS%20Models%20and%20Betas/newd5.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/COS%20Models%20and%20Betas/newd4.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/COS%20Models%20and%20Betas/newd3.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/COS%20Models%20and%20Betas/newd2.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/COS%20Models%20and%20Betas/NewDrgonTriangle.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/Misc/wip2-1.jpg[/img]

Mario based texture sheet:
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/werewulf15/Misc/MARIODOODADSHEET.jpg

What program do you use. I have been loking for one like this.
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: whitebear on February 23, 2008, 08:29:11 am: You did not read this thread after that post, right? You should.
Title: Re: Tyrant v2
Post by: Critters on February 26, 2008, 05:55:58 am: Heh,heh............oops. There is my stupdity again