Tremulous Forum
General => Troubleshooting => Topic started by: Zero Ame on October 31, 2007, 04:36:36 am
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Ok, I found that I can play trem when I have my bit settings at 16 bit and 24 bit, but when ever I try and play trem at 32 bit it doesn't work, and its really annoying to have to switch bit every time I want to play trem, so is there a way to fix this so I can play in 32 bit?
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Error-message?
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there isnt 1, it just gets into the game, starts loading a server map when i join, and then when its completed on the load, it closes the game
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I'll bet there is one, just start the game from the command line.
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Ok, and how do I do that?
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Dpends on your OS...
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Windows XP Pro SE
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Sorry, but I don't support any kind of "Starter Edition" as this "Windows XP Pro SE" is just a castrated version of "Windows Home".
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Sorry, but I don't support any kind of "Starter Edition" as this "Windows XP Pro SE" is just a castrated version of "Windows Home".
What Caveman means is that he is he only wants to help you if you use a certain operating system.
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LC that is total BS and you know it.
You did check out what "SE" is, right?
It is only good for light office work and some surfing...
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SE means Second Edition...
Windows XP Professional Second Edition is what I have and use. And Home sucks.
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hum? You got some links to a site from Microsoft for that?
XP-SE: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/newsroom/winxp/WinXPStarterFS.mspx
"Second Edition" was used in conjunction with Windows98 but never after that ,)
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ok here ya go
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n309/Lord-Omega/untitled-3.jpg)
now can you tell me how to start it from the command line??
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a) As you can clearly see it is NOT SE, it is Service Pack 2, a whole different story :)
b)
- find your icon / menu entry for tremulous, right click, select properties, mark field target, press ctrl-c
- go to "start" select run, enter "cmd", right click, select paste, press enter, the game should start now, if not, copy & past the error here.
- try to play, if the game crashes you'll now have the error-message you'll paste here.
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i dont understand this part "mark field target, press ctrl-c "
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I have no clue how to explain it in more simpler terms, sorry.
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It's not that hard.
As Caveman said, right-click on your icon/shortcut for Tremulous, select properties, and copy (CRTL+A, CRTL+C will select everything and copy it, CRTL+V for pasting) the stuff in the "Target" field.
After that, open up the command prompt: Start Menu -> Run... -> type in "Cmd" and press Enter. After that, paste the stuff from "Target" in and press Enter. That should give you the error message you'll need so anybody can do a lick to help you.
// Compressed jpeg's are ugly. Why the hell do people use them?
Edit: Now that I think of it, CRTL+V doesn't work in the command prompt, if I remember right. Right-click the window and do paste from there. My mistake.
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I have no clue how to explain it in more simpler terms, sorry.
Thats the problem, I dont need it in simple terms, i need it explained out. Like Ann did
EDIT:
As soon as I hit enter I get this error
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n309/Lord-Omega/untitled-4.jpg)
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I have no clue how to explain it in more simpler terms, sorry.
Thats the problem, I dont need it in simple terms, i need it explained out. Like Ann did
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As soon as I hit enter I get this error
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n309/Lord-Omega/untitled-4.jpg
That is not your problem.
The problem is that you
a) seem to think you know something whereas you actually know shit.
b) that you do not do what you were told.
c) that you postet a screenshot of the Tremulos Console when you were asked for the output of the cmd-console, AFTER it crashed as you described in your first post.
d) that I have enough of this thread, maybe someone else cares enough to walk you through the first few steps of windows' 101
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I thought admins were supposed to be patient? Meh, what would I know?
Does the ingame console have any errors, Ame?
Edit: Also, what would your system specs be? What graphics card? Maybe your graphics card isn't 32 bit. :P
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I'd be honestly floored if he didn't have a 32-bit capable card. Besides that, he makes it sound like he can run about everything besides Tremulous just dandy in 32-bit.
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That is not your problem.
The problem is that you
a) seem to think you know something whereas you actually know shit.
b) that you do not do what you were told.
c) that you postet a screenshot of the Tremulos Console when you were asked for the output of the cmd-console, AFTER it crashed as you described in your first post.
d) that I have enough of this thread, maybe someone else cares enough to walk you through the first few steps of windows' 101
On Windows, when you run
X:\some\path\tremulous.exe
from outside the Tremulous installation directory, it doesn't work. This works:
cd X:\some\path
tremulous
Look at the error before you start blaming others for your own wrong advice.
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What error?
The missing default.cfg that shows up in the _Tremulous-console_?
That is sooo unimportant.
Guess why I asked after the error from the cmd-console?
Ghost, how about you take over?
Instead of blabbing you could have given him a better solution to his problem.
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What error?
The missing default.cfg that shows up in the _Tremulous-console_?
That is sooo unimportant.
Guess why I asked after the error from the cmd-console?
The important thing is he did exactly what you told him to do. You said copy&paste the target and he did it. But that doesn't work without changing directory first which you did NOT say!
There's absolutely no difference between cmd and Tremulous console output except that Tremulous console doesn't stay open after Tremulous "successfully" quits. :roll:
Being hostile to clueless noobs is a good thing as long as you're not a jerk and understand the difference between ignorant lazyness and simple lack of knowledge.
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There's absolutely no difference between cmd and Tremulous console output except that Tremulous console doesn't stay open after Tremulous "successfully" quits.
Here we go.
Did you look at his screenshot?
What do you see?
riiiiight, the Tremulous.console, which you admitted does not stay open after trem quits/crashes.
What can we deduce from this?
That he did not do as he was told.
If you just want to get off a cheap shot, try again. Preferably in another thread where your unwillingness to help is not so obvious.
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Preferably in another thread where your unwillingness to help is not so obvious.
I've already said what he should do next.
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riiiiight, the Tremulous.console, which you admitted does not stay open after trem quits/crashes.
I don't understand. This screen closes after a crash, you say? The screenshot shows a fatal error (could not load default.cfg, often the result of running an executable which can't find data-1.1.0.pk3), which I know for a fact leads to the immediate shutdown of the client. If indeed the tremulous console does not stay open after a crash, then how did he acquire that screenshot, which clearly shows the output of a crashing client?
I'm not trying to attack you here but I see a contradiction and I think it needs clarification.
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Ben, that is exactly what I mean.
The screenshot should not have been possible as per ghost's statement.
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Ben, that is exactly what I mean.
The screenshot should not have been possible as per ghost's statement.
"Successfully" in my message means it doesn't crash before you get at least into menu. Which is not the case of missing default.cfg. :roll:
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you guys need to stop arguing, your getting on my nerves really fast.
And the game didnt launch at all, the consel just poped open with the error, i never got into the game at all. Which I figured was because the directories were wrong. I would have tried again but it was 1 in the morning or whenever it was and i was tired and had school today so I went to sleep after i posted that screen shot.
Caveman, Idc if your a admin or a guy who gets kicks from calling ppl noobs and being a jerk to them. Do not get in my face and start calling me names and shit because Im not going to put up with it and I will get up in your face and do the exact same shit to you. Im not a noob, and I do know "something" about windows. I have had my own computer since I was 7 and if I really felt like it I could reprogram the entire tremulous game to be a porno. Im on here for support, not to have some guy who has issues and takes them out on anyone he can with each and every chance he gets call me names and w.e. If you dont want to help thats great, I dont want help from someone who has issues like yourself anyways.
Now, Ghost, I didnt quite understand what you said about changing the directories and w.e with the
X:\some\path\tremulous.exe
and
cd X:\some\path
tremulous
Can you please explain that a little more?
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Here are all my specs ppl
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n309/Lord-Omega/untitled-5.jpg)
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I think he means put it in the command prompt. Do you know what that is?
http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=commandpromptpp8.jpg
Yes, look at my programs, I don't care. :p
If you can't use the commandprompt, I would be scared.
Also, Zero, can you code? You said you could change the whole trem game...are you talking only maps and models or code too?
Edit: WAIT A MINUTE! You have a nVidia TNT2 model 64? Haha, I had that exact same card. How on earth do you play with that? Your pc must choke on mp/ffa1, VJun.
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He already knows how to bring up the command prompt, John.
Anyway, Ame, Ghost is saying to do the following in the prompt:
cd\
cd Program Files\Tremulous
Tremulous.exe
and running it that way. If you've got a different path for Trem from C:\, change the above. If you've got it on say, your F: drive, you'd add F: to the top of that list of things, above cd\
Also, just so I understand, does the Trem console create a dump in the prompt after it's done running, Ghost?
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Edit: WAIT A MINUTE! You have a nVidia TNT2 model 64? Haha, I had that exact same card. How on earth do you play with that? Your pc must choke on mp/ffa1, VJun.
Actually no, I had to download a GFX driver for the card so i could play JKA and any other game that uses OpenGL, but it doesnt lag at all, I get a average of 80-90 FPS on all games.
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and if I really felt like it I could reprogram the entire tremulous game to be a porno.
You don't have to program anything to do that 8) And if you had known what to do, you wouldn't have say you could reprogram it :wink:
Now, Ghost, I didnt quite understand what you said about changing the directories and w.e with the
X:\some\path\tremulous.exe
and
cd X:\some\path
tremulous
Can you please explain that a little more?
If necessary, switch your active drive using "X:" and Enter, where X is the actual letter of the drive where Tremulous is installed. Again, copy&paste the target but this time, do NOT touch Enter yet. Delete the "tremulous.exe" part from the end and type "cd " in front of the line (including the space but without quotation marks). Now press Enter, type "tremulous" (again, without quotation marks) and press Enter again.
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Really offtopic:
Do not get in my face and start calling me names and shit because Im not going to put up with it and I will get up in your face and do the exact same shit to you. Im not a noob, and I do know "something" about windows. I have had my own computer since I was 7 and if I really felt like it I could reprogram the entire tremulous game to be a porno.
ok, lets see.
You have proven yourself to be a noob w/o a clue as you did not even know what OS you are running.
You might have had your computer since you were 7, that would mean you are "computing" since 22. Aug 1997.
You did not spend much time "computing" because you try your hand at drawing animish with pencils and trying to become a modder for various Q3-based games by offering maps.
That is why you failed at computer 101 and nearly failed 5 classes you needed for high school.
Believe me, when I say that it takes more c0mputar skillz then just using a FrontPage template if you want to succeed.
So Mr. Daniel from Iowa how is your ankle doing?
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Really offtopic:
Do not get in my face and start calling me names and shit because Im not going to put up with it and I will get up in your face and do the exact same shit to you. Im not a noob, and I do know "something" about windows. I have had my own computer since I was 7 and if I really felt like it I could reprogram the entire tremulous game to be a porno.
ok, lets see.
You have proven yourself to be a noob w/o a clue as you did not even know what OS you are running.
You might have had your computer since you were 7, that would mean you are "computing" since 22. Aug 1997.
You did not spend much time "computing" because you try your hand at drawing animish with pencils and trying to become a modder for various Q3-based games by offering maps.
That is why you failed at computer 101 and nearly failed 5 classes you needed for high school.
Believe me, when I say that it takes more c0mputar skillz then just using a FrontPage template if you want to succeed.
So Mr. Daniel from Iowa how is your ankle doing?
My ankle? wtf?? and if you think just because you can find out a whole bunch of shit about me that your going to scare me then your a freaking idiot. I can guarantee you caveman that i know more about computer than you do. and I did know what OS i had, I got confused on termanology, big deal to you i guess. The computer Im currently using I built from scratch, I love to see you do that. I also have another computer that runs a linux based OS that I edited to how I want it to look and everything. Bet you cant do that either. And Ive never failed 1 class in my life btw. Idc who you think you are caveman but you should have just dropped the convo after I said the first post to you, because 1, your a moderator, your the 1 thats suppose to stop shit like this, but you had to drag it out like a idiot just to try and prove your smart and im not, when its in all actuality the other way around.
Sorry about that ghost.
I opened cmd prmt and put in
cd/
cd program file\tremulous
tremulous.exe
It launched the game and everything went fine until I joined a game, I got the same crap and was kicked off. The cmd prmt didnt show any errors or anything so I did it 2 more times with still no errors. So idk whats up with that.
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It launched the game and everything went fine until I joined a game, I got the same crap and was kicked off. The cmd prmt didnt show any errors or anything so I did it 2 more times with still no errors. So idk whats up with that.
And the output?
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They just don't breed moderators like they use to...now their all impatient *****'s.
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It launched the game and everything went fine until I joined a game, I got the same crap and was kicked off. The cmd prmt didnt show any errors or anything so I did it 2 more times with still no errors. So idk whats up with that.
And the output?
there wasnt 1, there was nothing there. it just exited it with no errors or anything, all that was open was command prompt and it didnt say anything that was trem related except that it executed it.