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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: webname on December 01, 2007, 01:43:00 am

Title: can this game be sold
Post by: webname on December 01, 2007, 01:43:00 am
I just noticed on a local trade auction site that someone is selling
this game .

Im just wondering if this is allowed at all see following link

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=129222556&permanent=0

I dont know if the following is tremulous ( havent played it yet ) does anyone recognise it buyer initialy mentioned a connection with qfusion after i questioned
the buyer it dissapeared from the description

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Gaming/War-games/Other/auction-129617602.htm

just wondering if they are taking advantage ?

thanks


Title: Re: can this game be sold
Post by: PIE on December 01, 2007, 01:59:29 am
Yes they are allowed to sell it under the GPL:
http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html

There are certain caveats (have to include the source, etc)i'm sure other people know of better than I do, but this isn't the first time someone has done this.
Title: Re: can this game be sold
Post by: Basilisco on December 01, 2007, 02:02:23 am
This might be help you more than pie's link : http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html

And whether the seller is taking advantage is up to the person buying the game. The seller mentions "a professionally bundled CD package" which combined with shipping might be enough to make you pay for it. The only shady thing i could tell would be that the person didn't mention the tremulous website :P

ps:The second game is not trem btw
Title: Re: can this game be sold
Post by: jr2 on December 01, 2007, 08:56:10 am
Hmm, well if someone put together a Trem + Backport + all the maps, that'd be FTW for slow connection users / non-backport users as long as they didn't charge too much.
Title: Re: can this game be sold
Post by: NiTRoX on December 01, 2007, 07:02:09 pm
Hmm, well if someone put together a Trem + Backport + all the maps, that'd be FTW for slow connection users / non-backport users as long as they didn't charge too much.

I allready did that and posted it.
Title: Re: can this game be sold
Post by: 3tatuk on December 03, 2007, 01:56:48 am
The trem engine is release under the GPL, but the art is under the creative commons license which means if a single artist denies your right to sell, then it's illegal.
Title: Re: can this game be sold
Post by: Thanatos on December 03, 2007, 02:12:18 am
Can't he simply say that what he is selling is the package and not the game itself? In other words, might someone just sell a bunch of Trem maps, and say that he is including the client so that the customer can use the maps?
Title: Re: can this game be sold
Post by: Caveman on December 03, 2007, 03:16:53 am
"simply"? No. Too many licenses are involved.
But he can sell the package including the game if he decides he just wants his production costs reimbursed.
As soon as he makes any profit he might be in deep shit, depending on the licenses :)
Title: Re: can this game be sold
Post by: Thanatos on December 03, 2007, 03:43:12 am
So he only has to say that the CD's cost him 20 bucks a pop to burn, and then he'll be off the hook?
Title: Re: can this game be sold
Post by: Caveman on December 03, 2007, 04:42:46 am
What hook?
Compare it to what Distributors do with Linux-flavours.
They don't sell Linux, they sell the package .)
Title: Re: can this game be sold
Post by: Thanatos on December 03, 2007, 05:01:06 am
What hook?
if a single artist denies your right to sell, then it's illegal.
That hook.
Title: Re: can this game be sold
Post by: Caveman on December 03, 2007, 05:28:33 am
Oh puhlease.
If you don't want to understand it, say so.
But stop this trolling and/or selective reading.
Title: Re: can this game be sold
Post by: Annihilation on December 03, 2007, 11:17:29 am
Someone should punch that guy in the teeth.

"Tremulous has been around for over a year but the cd it is on is brand new"
Title: Re: can this game be sold
Post by: OverFlow on December 04, 2007, 01:50:54 am
the art is under the creative commons license which means if a single artist denies your right to sell, then it's illegal.

All the Trem 1.1 media content is under the commercial creative commons license, which means all the artists have already agreed that it's alright.

User made maps, on the other hand, have their own licenses, so if a person wanted to sell a bundle of Trem plus user made maps, then they would need permission from all the individual artists.  Otherwise, you're free to sell Trem it as you want, as long as the source is included.
Title: Re: can this game be sold
Post by: Death On Ice on December 04, 2007, 01:58:21 am
That's evil...

But a good idea

*Runs off to sell Trem*

*Runs back after being told that it's a free game too many times*

 :'(