Another problem: when the enemy team gets deconned, and you know they've been deconned, that should be enough information for you to know that you should stop attacking them until they have time to recooperate. But with many players (even most? I certainly hope not, but I dunno...), not only does this knowledge not stop them from getting cheap kills, but they still don't stop after people are flooding the chat with messages telling them to. Why is it common practice to do this, and why aren't admins as rigorous with these players as they are with the deconners themselves?
2¢... If you don't have the time to administrate a server, don't run one.
"We've been deconned" is the most overused excuse in this game. It used to mean that belier13 had connected and deconned eggs and the OM. Now anytime a builder moves RC poorly or without properly announcing it, its "WE'VE BEEN DECONNED! BAN!". I call bullshit. You don't get to call out deconners when its your team that screwed up, NOT the admins OR some griefer.
One thing that really pisses me off in Halo 3 (another team game) is the people that don't have voice. Come on people, a mic comes with the 360, and they are only 5 bucks. It applies just as much to trem as it does to halo, by not communicating, you hurt your team more than help it.I agree, that would get annoying, but then there's the fact that some people may not want to spread their voice over the internet. Plus, I'd turn it off, so I wouldn't have to live with the over-used swearing that would most likely be there.
its really not necessary to have teamwork on all levels. only the top few on each team need to work together to pull off a win. sad, but its true. the other people just get in the way on alien, or teamkill on human.
Hehe.. you mean Transit? I was a builder once... I considered it my personal mission to keep 2-3 eggs on the human base ceiling, as the humans were too busy running around trying to kill aliens. That was a short game, needless to say. One or two players did notice the eggs, and even managed to kill a few of them (and me) sometimes, but they either didn't communicate (possible), or they were ignored by the killwhores / Halo-style players (more likely). I had a good laugh at the end of that match. Pwnt by a stubborn Adv Granger!! XD
And if someones a far better player than others, why should people care? Why should those players try to get to both teams, if they are in a slaughter-raid? It is about yourself having fun, who cares about anybody else in the game? Also, people always go alone. Just always. Because it is about YOU making money, who cares about that this is team game? The base needs no protection because it surely has those turrets and can defend itself, so a builder is not necessary as well.Ok, I'll stop enjoying myself to make sure players who can't kill stuff on their own can have fun, too.
And if someones a far better player than others, why should people care? Why should those players try to get to both teams, if they are in a slaughter-raid? It is about yourself having fun, who cares about anybody else in the game? Also, people always go alone. Just always. Because it is about YOU making money, who cares about that this is team game? The base needs no protection because it surely has those turrets and can defend itself, so a builder is not necessary as well.Ok, I'll stop enjoying myself to make sure players who can't kill stuff on their own can have fun, too.
No thanks. If you can't kill something by yourself, go with your groups. Don't expect more experienced players to do it for you. I've played with the cream of the crop of trem players (skillwise, in public games) and I can tell you, its more fun to play against them than with them, so no, experienced players dont hop onto a team with other experienced players to demolish the opposing team.
And if someones a far better player than others, why should people care? Why should those players try to get to both teams, if they are in a slaughter-raid? It is about yourself having fun, who cares about anybody else in the game? Also, people always go alone. Just always. Because it is about YOU making money, who cares about that this is team game? The base needs no protection because it surely has those turrets and can defend itself, so a builder is not necessary as well.Ok, I'll stop enjoying myself to make sure players who can't kill stuff on their own can have fun, too.
No thanks. If you can't kill something by yourself, go with your groups. Don't expect more experienced players to do it for you. I've played with the cream of the crop of trem players (skillwise, in public games) and I can tell you, its more fun to play against them than with them, so no, experienced players dont hop onto a team with other experienced players to demolish the opposing team.
He said "player", and unless he made a typo that is one good player in the game, on both teams.
And yes, I realize there are 2 teams :D
//Slightly OfftopicExactly. Doesnt matter how many eggs you've killed, or any structures. At the end of the game theres always someone...
Tremulous needs an "official" definition for killwhore. I don't know how many times I've been called a killwhore just because I had a high amount of kills.
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Tremulous needs an "official" definition for killwhore. I don't know how many times I've been called a killwhore just because I had a high amount of kills.
spamming should be avoided even while defending the base. it means you keep on firing to the same spot where aliens are going to come, without actually aiming or waiting for them to come. this can make a lot of friendly fire damage also.
usually "camping" is when your team is equipped enough for an attack but still not moving out. like i'd say a chaingunner is a camper if he stays in the base as that weapon is dealing a high amount of damage and can hit big aliens as goons and tyrants with almost 100% accuracy.
Yes a chaingun will kill goons and rants pretty quick which is EXACTLY why they are needed at base, you need something that can hold up and deal tremendous damage quick (the luci is almost useless for this it fires FAR to slow)they are needed at base, but not IN base. if you sit behind the turret, tyrants and goons will destroy them one by one, in a pitifully slow and boring way. if you get a chaingun, you should jump down and dance around tyrants with grenade in your mouth, making them teamkill each others - and then finish the rest.
>:(
Yes a chaingun will kill goons and rants pretty quick which is EXACTLY why they are needed at base, you need something that can hold up and deal tremendous damage quick (the luci is almost useless for this it fires FAR to slow)they are needed at base, but not IN base. if you sit behind the turret, tyrants and goons will destroy them one by one, in a pitifully slow and boring way. if you get a chaingun, you should jump down and dance around tyrants with grenade in your mouth, making them teamkill each others - and then finish the rest.
>:(
I'm sad because I'm a feeder. :( BUT THERE IS HOPE! I am training myself in this "run away and heal instead of dying" thing. It hurts though. :/
And jr2, it's difficult for what you want to happen. I wish I could see exactly where they were aiming at as well but the unfortunate fact, as far as getting better, is that the models of the players do not keep up with the turning of some players. If your sens is high enough, you can turn and hit before any change in direction is even possible to be noticed by your enemy. However, I have seen rare cases where a rant or goon instantly flips around 180 degrees. It looks quite odd.
You mean like me in ATCS?
-jr2 jumps down, begins spraying as he moves
-rant jumps over his head, wiggles one claw as he sails to the other side
-jr2 dies, having managed to fire 30 rounds of chaingun at nothing in particular
social skills aeh? they are important but are u missing 1 last part to finish it? Building! you forgot to include that part. I have been building all these time and cooperation + balance will still make u lose if the enemy ever reach to your stupid noob build base with rets all over. Building bases takes up nearly half of the game, where the other half is the players social skills/pro. A good base + good players is what i called a extremely good team.
btw Raven im looking forward to see u in trem for complementing on my clan (TSME) for good work of having good base buildiers :)
(just wondering where u hang out the most)
//Slightly OfftopicExactly. Doesnt matter how many eggs you've killed, or any structures. At the end of the game theres always someone...
Tremulous needs an "official" definition for killwhore. I don't know how many times I've been called a killwhore just because I had a high amount of kills.
//Slightly Offtopic
Tremulous needs an "official" definition for killwhore. I don't know how many times I've been called a killwhore just because I had a high amount of kills.
I would say a definition would be someone who goes out, to kill only. Not attack the other base. Sometimes its hard to tell, if some just get sidetracked on the way and have to return for health.
Another note is, I don't think it should ever be used before stage 3. Killing a lot in stages 1 and 2 have a goal in themselves.
1 battlesuited chaingun can't kill a adv-goon or tyr, 2 battlesuited chainguns can kill adv-goons and probably tyr too(but 1 guy usually dies), 3 bs chainguns mostly kill single tyr and survive, but 1 other poisoned alien probably kills one of us. 4 battlesuited chaingunners kill everything on their way, exept well teamed tyrs but even then they lost usually more evos then humans cash. But try to make such a 4 guy team.Yes a chaingun will kill goons and rants pretty quick which is EXACTLY why they are needed at base, you need something that can hold up and deal tremendous damage quick (the luci is almost useless for this it fires FAR to slow)they are needed at base, but not IN base. if you sit behind the turret, tyrants and goons will destroy them one by one, in a pitifully slow and boring way. if you get a chaingun, you should jump down and dance around tyrants with grenade in your mouth, making them teamkill each others - and then finish the rest.
>:(
camped under the stairs in transit in a bsuit with a psaw to kill dretchesThats what I call to be in category of taunting. Player should be able to restrain himself to be tempted to attack these unless they really have a chances of defeating them (such as being last player of their team and no base to med in). Of course you don't call it skill because anyone with bit playing experience could do same.