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Community => Off Topic => Topic started by: player1 on February 25, 2008, 08:57:07 pm
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We often assume that many of you are native English speakers, but for many forum users, English is a foreign/second/additional/unusual language. I don't want to start any Us vs. Them kind of flamewars, but I was just wondering what language some of our forum users were brought up speaking, how long they've been utilizing English, and how they like our wonderful and consistent language. If you'd like to reply, fine; if not, that's fine, too. If you'd just like to say that English is not your native tongue without being more specific as to your nationality and location, that's fine also.
As for those of you for whom English is your native language, I'd just like to say that spellcheck can be your friend. Thread-starters, in particular, may want to at least make sure that the thread name/title/subject is correctly spelled. Otherwise, you may appear to be lazy/careless/thoughtless/foolish.
Cheers!
Me: American
Language: English (the American kind)
Other Languages: 2 yrs. of high school German, 1 yr. of high school French, and a quick non-credit course in Korean
P.S. High school for me was over a quarter-century ago, and I rarely have a chance to use German, French or Korean.
Maybe this is Off-Topic, and if so, please move it. It seemed to be along the lines of "How old are you?", "Where are you located?", etc.
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the "how old are you?" topic was created before there was an offtopic section i think.
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Why not :P
Me: American
Language: English
Other Languages: Three years Deutsch (also in high school, and 1.5 decades ago)
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Location: USA, Chicago
Native: British English
Fun/Heritage: tsalagi
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I just learned at least two things about TinMan. One: he was apparently born somewhere that British English is the native language; and, two: he apparently (like about half the people in the U.S.) has some Cherokee heritage. I also learned the native name for the Cherokee language. New grooves are fun to make in your brainpan.
@kev: thx 4 the move
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You probably weren't expecting this:
Me: Dutch
Language: Dutch
Other languages: Deutsch, English
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I'm American, and my native language is English. I can speak some basic French, German, and Spanish. I'm was also once fairly fluent in Japanese, though I never learned to read it.
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Nationality: Australian
Primary Language: English
Other Languages: 1yr Italian, 1yr Japanese, 1yr Indonesian (Though remember little to nothing of them)
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Nationality/location: Haitian Haiti(SNB district A2)
Primary Languages: Creole, sub English A, English (real language its basicly english but some of the words not needed have been taken out and there are 10,000 more curse words it was also created by the SNB weopons company)
Other Languages: kinda know a little spanish
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Oooh! I know some Japanese too! I learned my Hiragana and Kanji, then dropped the class because the other two writing systems required way too many crazy strokes and I sucked at comprehending things said to me.
@player1: I grew up in the boonies/sticks outside of Chicago. I learned how to spell colour as colour by reading a few books, many newsprints, and the internets! Oh yeah...and then there are PBS channels to blame for my pronunciation, which these forums have no knowledge of! I try to pronounce things in their native tounge. For example, I pronounce Linux as "lee-nuhks," as that's the Swedish pronunciation of the word opposed to the butchered "lin-nix" that I have to hear every other American say.
And yes, I am of Comanche blood...and Slav, but we dear not mention them...my family crest has a picture of a sabre beheading a Hun over it. xD
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Australian
English
Very little Japanese
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Location: Finland
Native: Finish
Native secondary: Swedish (but I barely understand it.)
Learned: English
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Do you like Finnish Death Metal?
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American:
Native: English
Other: about 1 year of German, quite a few of Spanish, and a few words in Italian and French.
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Do you like Finnish Death Metal?
No.That stuff is yelling and very unmusical.
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First language: English
I have moderately working Spanish. Remnants of high school Latin (ubi oh ubi est meum sub ubi?!) and i'm dabbling in Japanese though very soon I plan to start taking it seriously in an attempt to become fluent... also a very small bit of German.
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Whoa... Japanese is really starting to kick in. Kinda glad. ^^
I can't claim to know much Japanese but I get the general idea even if I watch an anime episode without subs.
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Main : English/Russian (I am still not sure which one is better, both are rubbish though)
Secondary languages : German, French, a bit of Polish, a tiny bit of Esperanto and Italian.
Tertirary languages : C++, C#, Perl.
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Whoa... Japanese is really starting to kick in. Kinda glad. ^^
I can't claim to know much Japanese but I get the general idea even if I watch an anime episode without subs.
My housemate watches a lot of Korean shows. I can get the gist just from the facial expressions and tone of voice, generally. :)
(Plus I've seen about twenty years worth of the nun-mur or "eye-water" shows, the plot is always the same.) :'(
The only thing I can do fairly fluently in Korean is order food at a Korean restaurant, but if the waitress starts answering back in Korean I'm sunk. :D
Also, the honorific system can leave a Westerner slightly confused: which of the three to seven ways to say "Thank You" should I use for this particular individual (for instance)? Komo, Komowayo, Kamsahamnida, etc. :-\
@whitebear: Where in Finland are you?
@==Troy==: Where are you located, dude?
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mine natif langwij ist engrisch.
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@==Troy==: Where are you located, dude?
This thread is about languages isnt it? :) But I am teh from Britiz country ))
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english english / leet.
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Born in Belgium
Lived in China for 11 years
Native language: French
Secondary language: English
Third language: Chinese
You don't see many frenchies over here because they have their own trem forum ;)
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Born in Malta
I live in Malta.
First Language: Maltese/English (Maltese mainly used)
Second Language: English
Third: Italian
Fourth: French (I can understand what I read but not good at making conversations)
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Location: Holland
First language: Dutch
Second: English
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whitebear: Where in Finland are you?
Jyväskylä. (City in the middle of Finland) Name would translate as grain village.
I've read few Korean manga and enjoyed. Id is the best!
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In Korea they say man-hwa. When I lived in NYC, they had a Korean manhwa store. You can rent the comics and bring them back, or sit in the store and read them (and drink coffee, and, at that time, smoke cigarettes, too). You paid a nominal fee to join, and then a small fee to rent the comics. It was a good way for me to learn their alphabet, Hangul, which is a phonetic alphabet, but grouped into syllables. It takes a while to get used to comic book sound effects in a foreign language. In Korea, dogs don't go "woof-woof", they go "mung-mung". :) Also, some of their comics read right-to-left, top-to-bottom, starting from the "back" cover, which also is a trip when you first try it.
I liked Outlanders, by Johji Manabe, as long as we are talking about manga.
Most of the Korean stuff was about baseball, dating and ancient Chinese warriors. Not as many giant robots.
@==Troy==: I just wondered where you live when you said Russian was one of your main languages. I didn't know if we had anyone in Russia actually playing Tremulous.
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@==Troy==: I just wondered where you live when you said Russian was one of your main languages. I didn't know if we had anyone in Russia actually playing Tremulous.
Corbina, Planeta Moscow and Star ATCS are Russian servers.
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Nationality: Polish
Language: English, Polish
Other: Spanish, a little french.
Whoa... Japanese is really starting to kick in. Kinda glad. ^^
I don't see why anyone who isn't living or often travelling to Japan should learn Japanese. Of course it's a nice language, but not very useful ( unless someone watches loads of anime without subs xD ). I guess a better language to learn would be Chinese judging by the ammount of chinese coming to Europe. In 10 years, the world will be flooded with the Chinese.
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Location: Texas!
Language: Punjabi / English
Other Languages:
Spanish - Enough to get by with spanish-only speakers ;
Russian - enough to bug kev with ;
German - enough to get out of germany ;
Hindi - close enough to Punjabi that I can claim to 'KNOW' it completely short of writing it ;
Kashmiri - ditto ;
Urdu - Enough to tell some dirty jokes/understand some dirty jokes.
English is the worst language ever.
Khalsa
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Why use it then?
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Last I checked, I lived in America, worked with english speakers, was on Trem.net where English is the language of choice, and have very little choice in the matter.
I tend to avoid it as much as I can when I do have the option.
Khalsa
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It's like VHS: not necessarily better, just an accepted standard.
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Location: North Carolina, USA, Earth, Universe
Main language: English
Secondary Languages: Some Spanish and some Hawaiian.
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Hawaiian or Pidgin?
What, you like play da one Tremulous da kine, haole-boy?
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Nationality: Dutch (Netherlands)
Language: Dutch (best and native language :))
English
Broken German
I can make guesses on what things in french mean :P
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Born in Malta
I live in Malta.
First Language: Maltese/English (Maltese mainly used)
Second Language: English
Third: Italian
Fourth: French (I can understand what I read but not good at making conversations)
Hmmm, this guy I hate usually babysits the Preident (or whatever) of Maltas children. He keeps blabbering on about, among being an attention whore and screaming with mock pain at the top of his voice when someone puts nearly melted ice on his hand when he asks them to, all for the sake of attention...
Scottish, born in Oman
English (UK)
Latin... I was taught French and German by force, but its leaving me.
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Hawaiian or Pidgin?
What, you like play da one Tremulous da kine, haole-boy?
Hawaiian.
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@Tito: No way. How cool. How did that happen in NC? Family? You mean Hawaiian as in only 14 letters in the alphabet Hawaiian? I'll tell you one thing: when they build a new development in Hawaii, and your friend tells you the name of his street, it pays to write it down. We spent like two hours looking for a place one of my friends thought was "something like Pele, or Pulu; c'mon, how many names like that can there be?" (we wanted to kill him, but it was his car). Every street in that subdevelopment had a four letter name starting with a "P". :P
@the shadow bros: gandor & ninjamandude - I thought you were both Americans. Good job. :laugh:
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yeah normal english is full of uneccicery words and rules that why the SNB weapons company developed the sub A version
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Yeah my aunt lived there with her computer programmer boyfriend for like 4 years. She taught me everything about the language.
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yeah normal english is full of uneccicery words and rules that why the SNB weapons company developed the sub A version
you are one strange troll...
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&hs=NzJ&q=SNB+weapon+company&btnG=Search&meta=
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native/location: Hungary
learned: English
learned secondary: latin (totally forgot)
and once i decided to learn the sentence:"i can'T drive my submarine because my tie is disturbing me" in as many language as i can, but i can'T write them down, nor pronounce well...
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Me: German
Language: German
Other Languages: english. Just like almost every other german i learned it at school.
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I am hungarian (lol big surprise after being in [HUN] for quite some time now...) but some of my friends say that I speak better english than hungarian. Truth is: My native language is hungarian but I do sound like if I was bilingual from the start... (I make gramatical errors in written english - in b4 some english-grammarnazi attacks my posts) I understand a little italian (cannot speak anymore) and I study russian in university but I'm really a beginner... 8)
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Nationality, native language: Polish
Others: English, German (a bit), French (a bit), Italian (a bit)
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Location: America
Nationality: American
Languages:
First Language: Russian
Primary Language: English
Learning: French - 3rd year
picked up by living there: some hawaiian, at least the pronunciation who would think a highway called the Likelike highway would be pronounced leekeleeke
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Location: Norway
Primary language: Norwegian
Secondary language: English
Tertiary language: German (Can not remember a thing at all.)
Can understand Danish, and swedish.
Icelandic is strangely familiar to me, as it is almost like norse, which is the ancestor of modern Norwegian. :p
Can also understand Dutch, as it sounds like a strange mix between English, german and scandinavian languages.
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I've worked with Dutch crews a few times, and since I took some German a long time ago, I always almost feel like I can sort of understand Dutch, like it's (as you said) a combination of English and German and some other stuff. It sounds like people talking in dreams. It almost means something, but you just can't quite make it out.
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well, if you are hungarian and you hear the "ambient.wav" in a pub in FINLAND, you can definitely beleive that you're at home, or you understood an estimated 1-2 words.
we have like 4-5 words similar, but by the sound our language still looks like similar by hearing :-)
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I've worked with Dutch crews a few times, and since I took some German a long time ago, I always almost feel like I can sort of understand Dutch,
Yeah, Dutch is quite similar to the German language, only German is harder (I think):P
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I've worked with Dutch crews a few times, and since I took some German a long time ago, I always almost feel like I can sort of understand Dutch,
Yeah, Dutch is quite similar to the German language, only German is harder (I think):P
Lol, no, the other way around ;)
Dutch has a lot of exceptions in terms of spelling and all. Ofcourse, I too think that German is more difficult, because it is not my native language, but if I heard it right, dutch is one of the more difficult languages :(
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:-) i have a friend who is in hungary for like twelve (!) years, and his mother is hungarian, and he still has accent and doesn't know many words and exceptions....
as much as i heard, hungarian and japaneese are the hardest languages. idn, i see many of you started to learn japaneese, but noone told that he/she speaks it well :-)
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well, if you are hungarian and you hear the "ambient.wav" in a pub in FINLAND, you can definitely beleive that you're at home, or you understood an estimated 1-2 words.
we have like 4-5 words similar, but by the sound our language still looks like similar by hearing :-)
I believe that Finno-Ugric is a division of the Ural-Altaic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ural-Altaic_languages) languages, according to philologists, who find similarities in languages as seemingly diverse as Finnish, Hungarian and Korean. Which is a long-winded way of saying scientists agree with you. :D
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How do you say double-post necro bump in your native/first/best/usual language?
But seriously, it would be nice to know if some of the newer members are not used to expressing themselves in English; perhaps people would be a bit more grammar tolerant than some have as of late.
Capice?
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Me: Spain, Europe
Language: Spanish
Other languages: Almost perfect English and French
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I speak the language of wisdom, it is not confined to a country or group of people. My words are omnipotent and can be understood by anyone.
In case people are too stupid to understand that language, I speak either Dutch, which is my native language, or English, which I use more than Dutch. A bit of German, French and old Latin are mine too, but only the basics.
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<Noob------------------Normal-------------#----Godlike>
The # is where Lava is.
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Well, this is the first time that i check this topic, so lets give some info <>.<>
I'm from Colombia, South america.
My native language is spanish
I speak english too (We dont talk it here but Tremulous and the players are good teachers of english :P)
I speak a little bit of Papiamentu and Dutch
Um, and i can understand a little bit of portuguese (i dont like that language is kinda gay <,<)
Oh i forgot, i know C, PHP, Perl, and i'm learning Pyton :>
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-From Spain
-Speak spanish
-Also know: english, french and.. (nah... only a bit) japanese
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Nationality, native language: Polish
Other: English
German (I've been learning it in school for some years, but I'm still not good at it, cause the way it sounds... I just don't like it :P)
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Hello,
Nationality : French
Primary language : French
Secondary language : English
I'm learning German at school, but I don't like it.
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I'm surprised no-one's posted a programming language, or if they did, I didn't see it. I'm sure there are many fluent C++, Python, VB.net (fail) etc. coders here.
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I'm fluent in PHP and C.
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I'm fluent in PHP and C.
prove it
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Okay. Take a look here (http://bombthedev.987mb.com/projects.php).
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Looks like crap done for xcode, not proof that you're FLUENT.
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Since when has anyone granted you the right to insult someone else's hard work? All you're doing right now is trolling.
Amethyst and Apex were done in Xcode, but they were also written in Objective-C — about which I said nothing. Equilibrium QVM is C and uPost is PHP.
Let's have a gander at your coding skills, then, since you seem to be the self-proclaimed authority on all software projects.
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lol
Dan doesn't code for beans other than VB crap, he makes maps for dpball and other Quake 2 engine mods that are actually really good. Other than shader scripts and such, I think everything he touches is ugly VB.
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Then he has neither reason nor right to call anything I do, or indeed anything anyone does, "crap".
On a side note, what's VB even good for?
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From what we were told in school, VB is good for everything. In real life, VB is good for making really simple GUIs to anything you could write in basic, although some people do actually use it to make video games and stuff, it's not a good language to do that with.
It is a good starter language though, teach a kid how to do VB or Java, they'll move onto useful stuff after they know those :P
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I skipped the entire BASIC stage. :P
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A lot of people do. For some it's easy to work their way up to stuff, for others it's best to just start with C.
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I suppose it depends on the background you've had. You'll want to start out with BASIC if you don't know any of the terminology or syntax, but C is better if you have a good understanding of how some of it works.
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I'm starting with Python, and I'm loving it.
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I never found out what Python is. That said, what is it?
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http://www.python.org/about/
Python is great.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python_(programming_language) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python_(programming_language))
Google is great. :)
On a side note, the only programming language I ever learned was Basic, and that was in like 1981 or so. Since C has managed to stick around for a while, I guess I should go back and learn to write code (or at least read it) again. :P
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my native/first/best/usual/only language is that of webster's english, the best english to use in america because if you use other english your teachers will lay eggs.
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my native/first/best/usual/only language is that of webster's english, the best english to use in america because if you use other english your teachers will lay eggs.
B.S., you're Polish.
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my native/first/best/usual/only language is that of webster's english, the best english to use in america because if you use other english your teachers will lay eggs.
:( ??? ??? what the?
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(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2073/1764266506_3397548ab0.jpg)
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Sock puppets. Total win.
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ROFL ROFL 90F1 LOL 101 !!!!!!!1111one!!11 that was just ..... halarious
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snb, I think he means that if you use English with UK spellings (favourite instead of favorite, that kind of thing) in America teachers will mark things like that as wrong.
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oh ok i just didn't get when he said "lay an egg" neva heard o' dat
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I think it means that they freak out. I have pet chickens, if you scare them they will either lay an egg (if female), or take a dump - like a core dump - (if male or female), yes, this means that they can have poo on their freshly dropped eggs, it's pretty gross.
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yeah um i didn't need to know that last part :-X